**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 11 02:59:56 2007
Sep 11 05:23:16 <mlh> cycom: just mount the disk on another machine and edit /etc/shadow
Sep 11 09:19:59 <grothesk> Hello!
Sep 11 12:32:55 <NSLU2-IRC> hlp, i need to ask a question, but don't know how to change my nickname so I'm not auto ignored!
Sep 11 12:34:50 <NSLU2-IRC> Hmn, has this worked\/
Sep 11 12:35:15 <NSLU2-IRC> Apparently not (is it the /nick command?)
Sep 11 12:36:24 <grothesk> Yes, try /nick YOURNICKNAME
Sep 11 12:36:48 <NSLU2-IRC> Just used that command
Sep 11 12:36:59 <grothesk> Feedback?
Sep 11 12:37:06 <NSLU2-IRC> Doesn't seem to work - no feedback \;(
Sep 11 12:37:27 <grothnick> Works here.
Sep 11 12:37:49 <NSLU2-IRC> Hmn, doesn't seem to like lower or uppercase
Sep 11 12:38:19 <NSLU2-IRC> < is slightly embarrassed by failure of etiquette bought on by command line
Sep 11 12:39:58 <NSLU2-IRC> ... wonders if it's OK to ask a question even though she's wearing the big Noob sign
Sep 11 12:41:53 <grothesk> Don't ask if you may ask something. Just ask.
Sep 11 12:42:50 <grothesk> If one knows an answer, he will give it. If not, he'll keep silent.
Sep 11 12:43:44 <NSLU2-IRC> I'm trying to mount a FAT32 drive to disk1 port; follwing instructions here http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AttachAFAT32FormattedDrive
Sep 11 12:44:07 <NSLU2-IRC> HAve got drive showing up in windows, but none of the existing files/folders appear
Sep 11 12:44:38 <NSLU2-IRC> Is there anything I should do to make this work? Bearing in mind I did my first ever CHMOD about 10 minutes ago \;)
Sep 11 12:52:28 <grothesk> Did you read Stage 6) ?
Sep 11 12:58:00 <NSLU2-IRC> copying and editing the .conf files? Yup, that's when I got my first intro tO CHMod
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 11 13:31:46 2007
Sep 11 13:38:50 <grothesk> How do I create a User in the slug?
Sep 11 13:39:27 <grothesk> I mean, I actually can create one and he is also able to run a certain programm on the slug. 
Sep 11 13:39:46 <grothesk> But then his shares are not available. 
Sep 11 13:40:28 <grothesk> But when creating a user by web-gui, my user is missing a shell and a /home folder in /etc/passwd.
Sep 11 13:40:39 <grothesk> But i can browse his shares. 
Sep 11 13:55:44 <mwester> grothesk:  Create the user using the web-gui, then edit the passwd file to add the shell entry, and create the home directory.
Sep 11 13:58:03 <grothesk> Is that /etc/passwd?
Sep 11 13:58:27 <grothesk> Because I think, that file has been overwritten aften a reboot.
Sep 11 13:59:19 <grothesk> Is that /opt/etc/passwd?
Sep 11 14:11:48 <mwester> The wiki can help find the actual source for that file.  It should be on /share/{flash,hdd}/conf or similar.
Sep 11 14:12:18 <grothesk> As soon as I enter /homedir and loginshell, that users shares will be unaccessable.
Sep 11 14:12:20 <grothesk> :-(
Sep 11 18:07:30 <jhonnie> hello?
Sep 11 18:07:55 <jhonnie> ?
Sep 11 18:08:12 <jhonnie> !help
Sep 11 18:08:14 <jhonnie> help!
Sep 11 18:08:38 <jhonnie> somebody awake her?
Sep 11 18:11:06 <jhonnie> aah.... i read all the FAQ's for as much as i could... but i cant get out of this..
Sep 11 18:13:50 * jhonnie slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large trout
Sep 11 18:18:57 <ch4os_> jhonnie what problem do you have
Sep 11 18:20:33 <jhonnie> ok.. :) thx for reply.. i just want to make my unslu2 to a mail + ftp server..
Sep 11 18:20:43 <jhonnie> but most important now is the mail! :o
Sep 11 18:21:09 <jhonnie> only.. how in the name of.... am i supposed to acces the memory of the nslu2?
Sep 11 18:21:18 <jhonnie> using unslung btw.
Sep 11 18:21:59 <jhonnie> + i'm verry sick.. literally ..
Sep 11 18:22:48 <ch4os_> i don't know any lighweight mail server
Sep 11 18:22:58 <jhonnie> Question?: how do i acces these files on the nslu2??
Sep 11 18:23:20 <ch4os_> what files?
Sep 11 18:23:30 <jhonnie> when that is done... i'll manage with the wiki pages i hope... only i cant acces the directory on the nslu2
Sep 11 18:23:56 <jhonnie> can i tellnet to it to configure.. or HOW does it work?
Sep 11 18:24:07 <ch4os_> yy...
Sep 11 18:24:46 <ch4os_> i don't understand... what do u want to do?:P
Sep 11 18:25:10 <jhonnie> install package to my unslung software on my NSLU2.. so i can use mailserver..
Sep 11 18:25:21 <jhonnie> but i can't telnet to it or configure.. 
Sep 11 18:26:01 <ch4os_> well, you are using some version of unslug? or debian maybe?
Sep 11 18:26:07 <jhonnie> unslug
Sep 11 18:26:23 <ch4os_> so u can use ssh
Sep 11 18:26:32 <jhonnie> but i have to install first? right?
Sep 11 18:27:19 <ch4os_> no, sshd should be installed with unslug
Sep 11 18:27:56 <jhonnie> so i can just without installing anything just ssh to my unslung?
Sep 11 18:28:35 <ch4os_> yes
Sep 11 18:28:51 <jhonnie> putty.. ssh
Sep 11 18:29:07 <jhonnie> one problem atm... forgot how to get in :S
Sep 11 18:29:12 <jhonnie> cant get in http again..
Sep 11 18:29:26 <ch4os_> do you know ip, and root password?
Sep 11 18:29:39 <jhonnie> no root pass installed.
Sep 11 18:30:35 <ch4os_> it's even possible?:P
Sep 11 18:30:48 <jhonnie> admin admin?
Sep 11 18:30:49 <ch4os_> no pass for root
Sep 11 18:30:50 <ch4os_> hmm
Sep 11 18:31:10 <jhonnie> at least i didnt install passwords..
Sep 11 18:32:20 <ch4os_> try ssh with your normal user password
Sep 11 18:32:40 <jhonnie> but how can i.. if i cant get in http mode again :P or cant get ip again ^^
Sep 11 18:33:01 <ch4os_> don't know, i'm using debian
Sep 11 18:33:01 <jhonnie> can i reset my nslu to get back to standart range?
Sep 11 18:46:51 <jhonnie> ok.. reflashing again..
Sep 11 18:47:04 <jhonnie> and then i can ssh to standart port?
Sep 11 18:48:12 <ch4os_> i think so
Sep 11 18:48:30 <jhonnie> you know the standart password , or how to sett the password/?
Sep 11 18:48:59 <ch4os_> there is no standard password
Sep 11 18:49:18 <jhonnie> you asked for the root password :P
Sep 11 18:52:24 <jhonnie> ok.. back in the http now..
Sep 11 18:52:26 <jhonnie> got the ip back
Sep 11 18:53:13 <jhonnie> putty said this : connection error, connection refused..!
Sep 11 18:53:34 <jhonnie> @ port 22.
Sep 11 18:56:35 <jhonnie> ch4os? you still there?
Sep 11 18:57:58 <ch4os_> yes yes
Sep 11 18:58:00 <ch4os_> hmm
Sep 11 18:58:20 <ch4os_> i don't know why it refuses connection
Sep 11 18:58:30 <ch4os_> ask some unslug user
Sep 11 18:59:58 <jhonnie> :( can't telnet ether..
Sep 11 19:00:34 <ch4os_> maybe ssh is disabled by web panel
Sep 11 19:00:39 <jhonnie> via wiki sais first install ipkg install openssh
Sep 11 19:00:50 <ch4os_> hm
Sep 11 19:01:18 <jhonnie> user + pass = admin + admin., since any other will say wrong login..
Sep 11 19:01:34 <jhonnie> and when admin+admin, connection will be terminated :(
Sep 11 19:01:49 <ch4os_> u can install packages through webpanel ?
Sep 11 19:03:13 <jhonnie> how? :P
Sep 11 19:03:17 <jhonnie> via de update?
Sep 11 19:03:41 <jhonnie> Upgrade    	 	
Sep 11 19:03:41 <jhonnie> 	
Sep 11 19:03:41 <jhonnie> Upgrade File: 	
Sep 11 19:03:41 <jhonnie> Do not power-off the Network Storage Link while it is
Sep 11 19:03:41 <jhonnie> being upgraded!
Sep 11 19:03:48 <jhonnie> like that?
Sep 11 19:03:48 <ch4os_> no!
Sep 11 19:03:52 <jhonnie> ooh :P
Sep 11 19:04:01 <ch4os_> ehh i never used unslug
Sep 11 19:04:14 <jhonnie> :(
Sep 11 19:04:33 <jhonnie> can't we slap some1 awake from the list right of this window (a)
Sep 11 19:05:23 <ch4os_> i don't remember who is using unslug
Sep 11 20:05:25 <gordonjl> all is there a channel specific to unslung?
Sep 11 20:05:54 <gordonjl> i'm having an issue with backup
Sep 11 20:06:33 <gordonjl> per the unslung readme, i unslung to disk 2.  unfortunately, I find the backup feature in the web interface only allows backups from disk 1 to disk 2
Sep 11 20:06:52 <gordonjl> so why the hell did the unslung readme suggest unslinging to disk 2?
Sep 11 20:07:10 <gordonjl> it purports that disk 1 is "much more flexible".  argggh :)
Sep 11 20:11:24 <mwester> The reasoning is described in the wiki.  It does not say that there are no other effects of doing so (in fact, I think it describes the most important exception to the guideline.
Sep 11 20:11:53 <mwester> Regardless, if you have searched the wiki, then you already know that the disk-to-disk copy doesn't work without modifications regardless of how you install it.
Sep 11 20:12:45 <mwester> Not to mention that if you will be using the disk-to-disk copy, then you must have two native disks on the device, and then by definition you fall into the exception to the "unsling to disk2" category -- all described on the wiki page.
Sep 11 20:12:46 <mwester> :)
Sep 11 20:12:47 <gordonjl> mwester: so all is not lost (and i _have_ searched before asking idiotic questions on the irc ;-)), mine is not a unique situation?
Sep 11 20:13:15 <gordonjl> crap then.  i have two native disks
Sep 11 20:13:25 <gordonjl> played hell with my users and password
Sep 11 20:13:57 <mwester> gordonjl:  If you wish to use disk-to-disk backup, you MUST have two native disks, and you MUST unsling to the one in disk 1.
Sep 11 20:14:16 <gordonjl> noooooooooooooooooo
Sep 11 20:14:24 <mwester> The user and password problems (i.e. they get scrambled when you plug in the second disk) are courtesy of Linksys' firmware.
Sep 11 20:14:48 <gordonjl> okay.  so i need to do a couple things then
Sep 11 20:15:09 <gordonjl> i need to totally redo my unslung setup
Sep 11 20:15:14 <mwester> We all eagerly await the release of a new Linksys firmware that will have these issues resolved, but frankly I've grown a couple years older waiting, so I've long ago stopped holding my breath and have just worked around the issues.
Sep 11 20:15:43 <gordonjl> 1) redo the unsling and unsling to disk 1, not two
Sep 11 20:16:16 <gordonjl> 2) plug in disk 2 and "native" format it
Sep 11 20:16:31 <gordonjl> 3) survive any user/password problems that arise
Sep 11 20:16:52 <gordonjl> 4)use the web interface to setup disk 1 -> disk 2 backup
Sep 11 20:17:06 <mwester> Don't forget to search for the disk-to-disk copy page(s) on the wiki, and grab the replacement script first.
Sep 11 20:17:25 <gordonjl> my goal is an itunes server with backup to another disk
Sep 11 20:17:37 <gordonjl> okay, mwester .  thanks for your help on this
Sep 11 20:18:00 <Reedy_Boy> There are always other distro's..
Sep 11 20:18:00 <gordonjl> i'm also somewhat confused about where the disks are on the directory tree
Sep 11 20:18:21 <gordonjl> does the wiki cover that one well,too?
Sep 11 20:18:44 <mwester> It's buried in there.  You could just examine the output from the "mount" command as well...
Sep 11 20:19:42 <gordonjl> Reedy_Boy: are you purposely trying to unhinge my already fragile, eggshell mind?
Sep 11 20:19:49 <Reedy_Boy> ;)
Sep 11 20:24:35 <gordonjl> i noticed that some settings (ip address) stayed with the nslu2 even after installing unslung firmware on top of an old unslung install i did.  this is with no hard drives attached.  is there a good way to _totally_ clear the machine?
Sep 11 20:27:54 <mwester> search for resetting the conf partition
Sep 11 20:28:18 <mwester> Not recommended, though.  Reset the settings from the GUI instead - less dangerous.
Sep 11 20:29:14 <Reedy_Boy> Cant you do a reset using the button on the back?
Sep 11 20:32:07 <mwester> Hmmm... dunno.  I've not ever tried that.
Sep 11 20:41:00 <Reedy_Boy> mwester, do you know whoes got the copyrights to the images in the nslu2 gallery/who took some of the pics?
Sep 11 20:42:13 <caplink811_log> for the logs, and if jhonnie comes back: 1st read the readme, 2nd make sure that the disc is working as expected, 3rd, enable telnet via webif, login, wait plug the disc in wait, run /sbin/unsling, when the script asks for a password, enter one you like, write it down. if you enter none, the default pw should be uNSLUng. reboot after a successful unlsing process, enable telnet again (when the webserver isn't reach
Sep 11 20:42:13 <caplink811_log> able,thenyou have a chicken/egg problem) run ipkgupdate; ipkg install dropbear/openssh
Sep 11 20:42:38 <caplink811_log> and at least, use the force of the wiki ;)
Sep 11 20:44:38 <mwester> Reedy_Boy:  Dunno, but check on the #nslu2-linux channel
Sep 11 20:44:51 <Reedy_Boy> Cheers
Sep 11 20:45:22 <Reedy_Boy> As im just after a motherboard picture to stick on wikipedia, rather than trying to take my own, as i dont take good pictures
Sep 12 01:21:25 <U156699> hiya,  i need advice on a backup strategy for my slug
Sep 12 01:21:30 <U156699> i'm using unslung
Sep 12 01:22:04 <U156699> i'm unslung to a drive on port 2 and want to backup data on it to a drive on port 1
Sep 12 01:22:38 <U156699> it seems like i can't do that via the web interface (only port 1->port 2 for backups after installing that workaround script)
Sep 12 01:23:37 <U156699> to do this, i'd have to resling to port 1.  of course, i have to copy all my data off the current unslung drive to somewhere else, then re-copy to port 1 after the resling process is done
Sep 12 01:23:42 <U156699> drag. drag. drag
Sep 12 01:24:11 <U156699> i also lose out on expansion possibilities, too.  i can't use a usb hub to link multiple hard drives onto my slug
Sep 12 01:24:19 <U156699> further, future drag-ness
Sep 12 01:24:42 <U156699> so, how can i have my cake and eat it too?
Sep 12 01:25:03 <U156699> have my port 2 unslung drive backed up onto a drive hanging off port 1?
Sep 12 01:25:19 <U156699> rsync?  cp?  magical web interface fix?
Sep 12 01:41:26 <U156699> hmmmm....this looks like it uses rsync but it can be started via the web interface.  there's a small tweek for disk 2 -> disk 1 backup http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FixTheDriveBackupForUnslungFirmware
Sep 12 02:27:43 <joshin> U156699: I use Rsync with a homemade script
Sep 12 02:28:29 <john_g> thanks.  the page i referenced is a little confusing
Sep 12 02:28:59 <john_g> if i understand it right, i can still kick things off via the web interface
Sep 12 02:29:33 <john_g> i'm not a bash scripter and am really an amateur when it comes to working with linux.  i can only follow recipes, really
Sep 12 02:29:47 <john_g> so i'll take what i can get! :-)
Sep 12 02:37:40 * joshin runs Gentoo on his slug so has no web interface.  :p
Sep 12 02:48:21 <john_g> anyone know how to determine what speed a slug is running at?
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