**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 29 02:59:56 2007 Sep 29 05:43:23 'night everyone! Sep 29 12:58:05 DrZimmerman: i have a question about debian nslu2 Sep 29 12:58:34 the manual installation consist to put debian on the hd from a computer, right? Sep 29 12:58:50 so what is in the flash of the nas? i don't see anything on that Sep 29 12:59:11 PPmarcel: hmm, i didn't used my nslu2 for more than a year Sep 29 12:59:22 PPmarcel: can't help you there Sep 29 12:59:45 you didn't said me that you already installed debian on it? Sep 29 12:59:53 or it's not you .. :) Sep 29 12:59:58 maybe i confuse Sep 29 13:00:13 PPmarcel: nope not me :) Sep 29 13:00:22 erf :p Sep 29 13:00:32 ok Sep 29 13:07:57 ah it's ok, cyrius as changed the installation method, it's more easy now Sep 29 13:25:46 PPmarcel: There is a way to still use the di and workaround the etch r1 bug supposedly. Sep 29 13:26:36 PPmarcel: And "in the flash of the nas" there is a initrd I think. Plus some bootloader... Sep 29 13:26:59 You are following the install from cyrius page? Sep 29 13:27:12 actually i'm at 180km from my nas :) Sep 29 13:27:25 i use it for irc and downloads Sep 29 13:27:39 but as soon as i'm at home, i'll use cyrius webpage, yes Sep 29 13:28:03 widrone: you are right, cyrius put an image for upslug anyway Sep 29 13:28:17 but it's wasn't soo clear in previous version Sep 29 13:28:41 because he was talking about using microcode or else Sep 29 13:28:48 PPmarcel: you could try using the debian installer image anyways to flash, reportedly it should work. Sep 29 13:29:09 even with the problem of bad links? Sep 29 13:29:13 PPmarcel: Let me dig out a link that refers to it. I am planning to try it out myself soon. Sep 29 13:29:57 http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-arm@lists.debian.org/msg07128.html Sep 29 13:30:08 Its with setting debconf pri to low. Sep 29 13:30:28 You have to answer alot of more questions thu, but it seems to be doable. Sep 29 13:31:04 I never got around a problem I had with formating thu, but it was frorm a bad slug/flash combo ;) Sep 29 13:31:35 ah :D Sep 29 13:31:54 do you work with debian? Sep 29 13:33:05 I had a slug running it for months, but now im testing slugOS again on one of then. Got 2. Sep 29 13:33:28 ok Sep 29 13:33:49 who are the real motors of openslug? Sep 29 13:33:57 i mean slugOS * Sep 29 13:34:01 they are here? Sep 29 13:34:35 I started getting random kernel kcrashes when doing heavy disk io so I swawpped in a slug running from another disk just to rule anything out. Sep 29 13:35:10 ayh, maybe you can help me about voip? Sep 29 13:35:16 PPmarcel: They are around here yes, not all the time thu. Sep 29 13:35:22 ok Sep 29 13:35:36 they do a good work Sep 29 13:35:59 hi. i have a diskstation running nslu2. how do i mount the harddrive using nfs? i have tryed: mount -t nfs -o nfsvers=2 192.168.1.2:/volume1/public /mnt/DS but gets this error: mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused Sep 29 13:36:05 do you know a software for arm, which allow me to use a phone thanks to sip? Sep 29 13:36:45 randoms: you have configured nfs before? Sep 29 13:36:50 nope Sep 29 13:36:57 could not find a howto on the site either Sep 29 13:37:18 do you use unslung? Sep 29 13:37:54 good question ^^ default Diskstation firmware. BusyBox v1.1.0 (2007.06.29-17:18+0000) Built-in shell (ash) Sep 29 13:38:25 you didn't flash your nslu2? you use linksys stock firmware? Sep 29 13:39:16 nope. as i said, i have the newest diskstation firmware, and enabled telnet/ipkg Sep 29 13:39:57 you should try unsluns at least Sep 29 13:40:09 it's linksys + package system Sep 29 13:40:27 and you can add fuctionalities like nfs Sep 29 13:40:49 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/NewUsersGuide Sep 29 13:40:55 randoms: Just to clairify it for me, you running stock firmware or something you downloaded from slug-firmware.net? Sep 29 13:41:03 * widrone is a bit slow today. Sep 29 13:41:22 :) Sep 29 13:41:30 im using synology firmware :> Sep 29 13:41:42 aaah Sep 29 13:41:50 you're not using a nslu2? Sep 29 13:42:04 ds-101 something im guessing? Sep 29 13:43:16 ds-107e Sep 29 13:43:32 you are trying to moount the nfs share on this 1.2 machine yes? And that is the remote machine? Sep 29 13:43:52 im trying to mount the DS harddrive on my laptop, so i can access the files from here. Sep 29 13:44:41 h, so the mount command is the one mounting the nfs share on the synology then, I see. My nfs skills are non existant, sorry. Sep 29 13:44:51 Ah* Sep 29 13:45:16 im not even sure if nfs is installed on the ds. Sep 29 13:45:36 You got the portmapper up and running "netstat -l" will probably tell you. Sep 29 13:46:11 dont seem like it Sep 29 13:47:07 aybe the nfs howtos on tldp.org can give any clues as how to troubleshoot nfs more. Sep 29 13:47:37 But ipkg can list your installed packages if you want that. Sep 29 13:47:44 See if it is installed. Sep 29 13:48:27 kk Sep 29 13:48:29 thnx Sep 29 13:50:03 randoms: Np, stick around if you want to. We can convince you to load something more usefull to that ds of yours ;) Sep 29 13:50:24 my slug just beeped 3 times, must be something ready loaded on it then I guess. Sep 29 13:53:20 ah yes widrone , debian installed manually or installed via installer, it's the same stability? Sep 29 13:53:45 or does exist a way which made the system more stable? Sep 29 13:53:57 Same os In theory so I cant see any reason not to. Sep 29 13:54:22 i don't know too, just seen some ppl complain because reboots Sep 29 13:54:31 ah, maybe it was with opendebianslog :o Sep 29 13:54:41 slug* Sep 29 13:54:44 Same as a debootstrap, and I have done that on other archs. no difference. Sep 29 13:54:52 so it's ok Sep 29 13:55:06 i will flash my router in the week Sep 29 13:55:10 PPmarcel: All the endianness gets confusing really fast ;) Sep 29 13:55:23 idd Sep 29 13:55:32 PPmarcel: router? What hw you got plugged into the slug? Sep 29 13:56:47 my network is like this: (modem)--(linksys wrt54gl)--(nslu2) Sep 29 13:57:01 i found a linksys adsl2mue for remplace my modem Sep 29 13:57:09 but if i do that, i'll lost my phone :( Sep 29 13:57:19 i don't know how use sip with the slug Sep 29 13:57:24 maybe with asterisk Sep 29 13:57:53 i'm affraid to lost all performances of the nas with that Sep 29 13:58:08 What hw you got plugged into the slug? Sep 29 13:58:18 it's not the answer that you expected? Sep 29 13:59:16 (modem)--(linksys wrt54gl)--(nslu2) <- just like my network! ;) Sep 29 14:00:50 I got one of the slugs running from 1gb flashstick, with a 4port usbhub for disks. The other one is supposed to have bluetooth/gps, but its a testcace for different flashes atm. Sep 29 14:01:18 woot \o/ :) Sep 29 14:01:24 PPmarcel: Never used asterisk really, so I dont know anything about the power it requires. Sep 29 14:01:46 it's a complete pabx Sep 29 14:02:10 it offer a lot of fuction, but i just look for a way to use my phone Sep 29 14:02:39 i can plug it in a rj-45 connector (my phone is rj11), but i dunno about compatibility Sep 29 14:02:52 gps? O_o what's the use of? Sep 29 14:03:03 your house is moving? =) Sep 29 14:04:23 (don't take it bad :( ) Sep 29 14:04:59 PPmarcel: One of the slugs is modded with a battery connector. And I have gprs on my mobile phone. Sep 29 14:05:20 impressive :p Sep 29 14:05:42 i just use mine about a static server Sep 29 14:06:03 wich provide ftp, irc bitorrent. And sambe for sharing Sep 29 14:06:26 which firmware do you use on your router? Sep 29 14:07:13 i have tomato, it allow me to fix a precise QoS and internet restriction (i share my network, and i won't see any p2p client) Sep 29 14:07:25 PPmarcel: its been running whiterussian (openwrt) since I moved in here 8 months ago, I rarely fuzz with it. Sep 29 14:08:19 you are a good openwrt user? :o Sep 29 14:08:45 i'm intersted to use it on my router, but i don't know how works QoS with it Sep 29 14:08:57 I got it set up the way I wanted, after that I played abit with kamikaze on the slug. Sep 29 14:09:16 nice :) Sep 29 14:09:22 No qos here, I enfore bw policy by sheer force of my fists! ;) Sep 29 14:09:50 there is a packages system with openwrt? Sep 29 14:09:59 ipkg! Sep 29 14:10:10 with optware? Sep 29 14:10:15 oooh slim... Sep 29 14:10:59 QoS is possible with netfilter, but i need layer-7 or ip2p at least, to do what i want to set Sep 29 14:11:05 Now youre bringing me into the "not 100% territory" again, but the kamikaze (dev version) I think, yes. Sep 29 14:11:36 ok :p Sep 29 14:12:53 althu, gpsd I seem to remember was available in the openwrt/kamikaze feed but not in openslug feeds. Thats quoting from my non-eec ram ;P Sep 29 14:13:27 more packets maybe, it's a good news Sep 29 14:13:45 but i dunno if i'm enough courageous to launch the avanture :p Sep 29 14:14:48 ah yes :D http://wiki.openwrt.org/MiniHowtos/QoSHowto Sep 29 14:15:42 maybe i could test x-wrt if i don't want to be totally lost Sep 29 14:16:03 I was under the impression that the feeds were moslty the same, but again my grasp of the cvs backend structure are lacking indeed Sep 29 14:16:46 kamikaze has webif2, but its not done yet in all the pages. Sep 29 14:17:02 x-wrt is with a web interface isnt it? Sep 29 14:17:07 yes Sep 29 14:17:15 wabif2 too? Sep 29 14:17:21 webif* Sep 29 14:18:02 webif is the kamikaze web config overlay, but stuff like package installation from web is not done yet. The different grafs it makes is lovely thu ;) Sep 29 14:18:30 PPmarcel: If you ever used monowall I think they made use of the code they made to make those lovely pages. Sep 29 14:20:04 i watch Sep 29 14:21:34 mine: http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato Sep 29 14:22:31 The recommended amount of RAM for m0n0wall is 64 MB :) Sep 29 14:22:41 i miss a lot of ram i think ^^ Sep 29 14:23:13 btw i think that openwrt is the only one to be full Sep 29 14:23:27 Ah, just refering to monowall with regards to the bwlog generating code. Not as a distro to run on the wrt ;) Sep 29 14:23:39 ah ok Sep 29 14:23:40 :D Sep 29 14:23:54 but i want to be honest Sep 29 14:24:06 what is bwlog generating code? Sep 29 14:29:20 the code that generates the bandwith usage webpages, sorry...not being very presice am I Sep 29 14:32:25 and without that, using ssh is very hard? or is it fast to leanr how route and set rules? Sep 29 14:37:56 rules as in qos or routing of firewalling? All of the above? :) Sep 29 14:38:39 routing and firewalling first Sep 29 14:38:52 that's the most important for a router! :) Sep 29 14:39:25 at least routing Sep 29 14:39:42 i do my pause Sep 29 14:39:47 *aw* Sep 29 14:40:20 Ow, no resize2fs in the openslug feeds. Thats a bummer... Sep 29 14:41:13 PPmarcel: Im not sure to tell you "its easy", but anything is doable. Im mostly not touching my wrted gw so I wouldnt know what to tell you Sep 29 14:42:32 Stupid widrone, its in the e2fsprogs ofc. Just that ipkg didnt want me to search it... Sep 29 15:33:09 Guys, I have a user which nslu2 keeps forgetting the password. I have to SSH as root and passwd 'user' to change it. Sep 29 15:34:49 Would building the SlugOs from the tarball give the me choice of any kernel I would like? Sep 29 15:37:23 gouki: What arae you running from the flash? And is there any external disks attatched? Sep 29 15:38:30 widrone: Yes. I have two HDD attached. Unslung (V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta) to drive #2 Sep 29 15:39:25 gouki: Only that user it happens with or everything except root? Sep 29 15:39:54 Is it ssh password or samba pass too btw, just incase were talking about different things here. Sep 29 15:40:14 widrone: I have only two users (root included). It doesn't forget root's password, so it's just that user. Sep 29 15:40:25 Ehy, someones poking with the website... Sep 29 15:40:34 widrone: Only SSH. I just got started with it and haven't installed SAMBA yet. Sep 29 15:42:18 gouki: you did unsling then rebooted (just to be safe) and root is on the HHD? TThen you added user with adduser and set the pass with passwd Sep 29 15:42:54 widrone: Yes. Exactly. Sep 29 15:43:10 forgetting password, that is a strange one. Sep 29 15:43:42 Soheil: I was about to pint you to some info on the wiki, but it seems to be down for some maintenence now Sep 29 15:44:51 point* ;) Sep 29 15:44:56 What a shame. No hurry though :) Sep 29 15:45:51 I'll be back searching in a few hours :) reality caught upp with me and I've got to go shoping groceries. Sep 29 15:45:52 Soheil: I tend to stick to binarys around here, so I got no practise with it. But hang aroung a bit and there will surely be someone... Sep 29 15:46:38 Will do :) Sep 29 15:53:16 widrone: Never heard that one before? :) Sep 29 15:54:09 gouki: no, only thing i can figure is thst the /etc/passwd (or shadow files) is sometimes on the flash root, and sometime on the hdd /etc/ Sep 29 15:54:26 or that you updated one and it reads from the other... Sep 29 15:54:39 Yeah, probably! :S Sep 29 15:54:58 But that is my general linux feeling, trying to recreate from memory how the unslung / tree is buildt up- Sep 29 15:56:10 Gotta try and figure that one that. Sep 29 15:56:45 gouki: what sshd btw sshd or "the other one" (name escapes me, the tinyone) Sep 29 15:57:07 sshd Sep 29 15:57:14 openssh, that is. Sep 29 15:57:30 gouki: Can you pastebin you mount output just to clarify it for me? Sep 29 15:58:01 Soheil: The webpage is back btw, but eaet dinner first ;) Sep 29 15:58:26 widrone: Sure, no problem. Sep 29 15:58:36 I'll use a pastebin service so I don't flood the channel. Sep 29 15:59:34 http://pastebin.ca/719744 Sep 29 16:00:12 EDNA or GNUMP3d? Sep 29 16:01:07 gouki: looks ok to me the mounts... Sep 29 16:01:52 widrone: yeah :( me too. That's whats making the problem so weird Sep 29 16:02:14 gouki: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ChangePasswordsFromTheCommandLine Sep 29 16:02:43 Maybe you are not updating what you think you are updating ;) Sep 29 16:02:44 you need to copy to /share/hdd/conf/ as well Sep 29 16:03:15 eno: I'll have a look at it Sep 29 16:04:01 hmm, actually /etc/passwd should be good before reboot Sep 29 16:06:21 eno, I copied to /share/flash/conf/passwd because I'm using disk 2 Sep 29 16:08:19 does password work if you do "su - " ? Sep 29 16:09:53 encode: Yes, it does. Sep 29 16:10:38 eno: Thanks, didnt remember that until you so clearly poined out. Sep 29 16:12:06 unslung is being compatible with linksys firmware here Sep 29 16:12:17 I'm completely in love for that little thing :) Sep 29 16:12:58 with openssh, i always use pub-key authentication instead of passwd Sep 29 16:13:17 that way, passwd does not matter Sep 29 16:13:54 there's even a keychain ipk, that helps you type your pass phrase just once Sep 29 16:14:29 Soheil: You shold atleast read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/BuildingTheTarball to start you off. Sep 29 16:16:02 Probblem with that instruction is getting the intel libs. They seem to be offline. Sep 29 16:16:48 Soheil: Maybe the versions linked from the MasterMakefile wikipage. Sep 29 16:18:10 What do you guys recommend. EDNA or Gnump3D Sep 29 16:19:11 laters... Sep 29 16:19:39 Take care widrone Sep 29 16:30:08 hi. im trying to emerge dev-java/sun-jdk. ang i get this error: !!! Error: circular dependencies: ebuild ... depends on -> and so on. Sep 29 16:30:39 at the bottom it says, !!! Note that circular dependencies can often be avoided by temporarily disable USE flags that trigger optional dependencies. Sep 29 16:30:46 how can i know witch flags that are? Sep 29 16:31:58 gah Sep 29 16:32:00 wrong channel Sep 29 16:32:01 sry Sep 29 16:40:23 Widrone: Thanks Sep 29 16:44:41 Do you guys recommend a specific software for mp3 streaming? I'm thinking about edna or gnump3d. Sep 29 18:03:53 gouki: mt-daapd Sep 29 18:04:09 and you listen your music with itune Sep 29 18:05:01 DrZimmerman: i know why i confused you: i remember your name, about your ipv6 ! Sep 29 18:15:40 PPmarcel: That's just it. I don't want to depend on a client to listen to the music. That's why I was thinking of gnump3d, 'cause I can hear it on a browser Sep 29 18:16:10 ok Sep 29 18:16:14 i undestand Sep 29 18:16:36 if you try gnump3d, could you say me if it accept video too? Sep 29 18:16:43 (divx :p) Sep 29 18:19:41 PPmarcel: Sure thing, but I really doubt it. :) Sep 29 18:20:39 hehe Sep 29 18:20:45 i'm always here anyway Sep 29 18:21:00 i look for a solution about streaming Sep 29 18:31:00 PPmarcel: heh, ok :) Sep 29 18:33:33 yes, i asked you how the hell you have ipv6 Sep 29 18:33:44 never mind xD Sep 29 18:36:04 pb? http://www.nslu2-linux.org/ Sep 29 19:34:36 Damn, I'm really in love with this thing!! :) This is so much fun!! Sep 29 19:35:19 * gouki now realizes that playing with a nslu2 on a saturday night is just pure geek! Sep 29 20:20:35 Has anyone tried Gnump3D? Don't really like to compile from source. Sep 29 20:39:36 uptime: couldn't get boot time: No such file or directory Sep 29 20:39:40 - Any idea on how to fix this? Sep 29 20:40:12 which firmware? Sep 29 20:41:54 seems to be unslung, gouki you should install procps Sep 29 20:44:02 caplink811-log: Yes, it's Unslung. I'll give procps a look Sep 29 21:56:32 Has anyone installed fail2ban? Sep 29 22:35:09 package archive seems to be unoperational. are there mirrors? Sep 29 22:39:23 sorry. it works now. Sep 29 22:39:30 * johang scratches head Sep 29 23:02:32 Well Im back again to play more with the nslu, and yes...saturday night and were at home playing with our slugs. ;) Sep 29 23:17:53 johang: I also am having some 404s with the feeds. Sep 29 23:18:30 nslu2 web was moving around earlier today and monotone hosting asw, may be some doing upgrades in the background on the server hw maybe. Sep 29 23:20:33 Same thing as www.nslu2-linux.org was on earlier, gave it 10 min and it was back. Sep 29 23:37:16 DNS providers have been switched today Im hearing, so that probably it. Now you know ;) Sep 29 23:47:39 ipkg. server seems to be back again, you addicts! Sep 30 00:22:53 Hi everibody Sep 30 00:32:23 hello you Sep 30 00:50:49 Hi! Sep 30 00:51:04 "resize2fs: Memory allocation failed while trying to resize /dev/media/media", meh. Bad, bad lvm... Sep 30 00:53:32 Nice error msg thu; "oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200d2, order=0" Sep 30 00:59:42 Not supposed to happen with swap around, but it still does it seems. Sep 30 01:16:01 widrone: Yeah, it is rather annoying. None of the normal fixes work for it either. Sep 30 01:16:32 I think it has to do with attemts to access swap timing out during very high I/O loads. Sep 30 01:20:08 joshin: Thanks for the pointer, I may try to move the swap around to see if that helps. now its on the same usb port as my /... doing the resize on disks on port 2. Sep 30 01:21:22 Ill just try to kill off anything and unload all unused modules first, just to give that a whirl. Sep 30 01:21:38 widrone: Good luck. I need to properly debug the problem (so that smarter people than me might fix it) but have been lazy. Sep 30 01:22:34 Either Im hitting two similar bugs or debian and slugos handles this differently. Sep 30 01:23:24 I actually think it is a kernel issue. Sep 30 01:23:31 Then again running fsck or resize on a 700-900 gb LVM volume on something with 32mb ram should be a problem maybe. Sep 30 01:23:52 Or running Gentoo on one and updating locally. :D Sep 30 01:24:02 If all else fails ill plug it into something else and do the resize. Sep 30 01:24:39 But the slug abides damnit, I know it can :) Sep 30 01:25:13 I'd want to do it on a different machine if I had one available just since it would be faster. Sep 30 01:28:12 Only other machine I got around only has usb 1.1 so I rather not do it that way really. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 30 02:59:56 2007