**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 18 02:59:56 2007
Nov 18 05:05:40 <kizoku> Hooray!
Nov 18 05:05:41 <kizoku> 06:05 [Freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from kizoku: irssi v0.8.12 - running on Linux armv5teb
Nov 18 11:52:02 <daveyboy_> hey guys
Nov 18 11:56:11 <PPmarcel> hello
Nov 18 12:00:37 <daveyboy_> interested in getting NAS, and bit of googling has led me to readign about nslu2, VERY tempted. I literally after NAS, with uPNP, and torrent client,.... want simple userface as im not a linux man, reading that unslung maybe best option for me, but because its only firmware flash, can i install torrent clients and other packages?
Nov 18 12:02:28 <jannen> daveboy yes for example rtorrent :)
Nov 18 12:03:52 <PPmarcel> it's the best client i think
Nov 18 12:04:00 <daveyboy_> good stuff, i thought it would be doable. anyone here run unslung or you all got fiull ditros?
Nov 18 12:04:09 <jannen> it require some effort from you
Nov 18 12:04:40 <daveyboy_> running torrent client or flashing firmware?
Nov 18 12:04:49 <jannen> I got 2 nslu so I run one unslung one slugos
Nov 18 12:04:55 <PPmarcel> both
Nov 18 12:04:59 <jannen> =)
Nov 18 12:05:14 <PPmarcel> do you run a sip software jannen ?
Nov 18 12:05:53 <jannen> the one with slugos that one I got rtorrrent. it works perfect
Nov 18 12:06:18 <jannen> PPmarcel no. I use mobilphone only.
Nov 18 12:06:21 <PPmarcel> i found a linksys modem, but there is no phone link on it. I will looking for a usb phone and sip software. Or the phone can do sip by itself..
Nov 18 12:06:25 <PPmarcel> ok
Nov 18 12:06:58 <PPmarcel> daveyboy_: have you flashed your nas?
Nov 18 12:11:03 <PPmarcel> am i still connected?
Nov 18 12:11:39 <jannen> yes
Nov 18 12:12:03 <daveyboy_> :) thats ok, i can cope with tech stuff, flashhed many a firmware etx
Nov 18 12:12:19 <daveyboy_> no not brought it yet. was just doing bit of research what nas 2 get before i buy
Nov 18 12:13:39 <jannen> daveboy I think best is install slugos then you need  go to this page http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Slugosbe  then write ipkg install rtorrent then fix a conf file thats it
Nov 18 12:14:48 <daveyboy_> right ok, what is UI liek for that anyway? i after soemthing that is actually girl friendly if poss as well....know thats a TALL order :p
Nov 18 12:17:41 <PPmarcel> ?
Nov 18 12:18:22 <jannen> there is somthing you can add to rtorrent  you got a webpage for rtorrent but its not needed and I dont think it make it easier. after some hours uou got use to it.assume you ask about rtorrent
Nov 18 12:18:49 <jannen> just put your torrent in a folder and download=).
Nov 18 12:20:05 <daveyboy_> oh thats cool. can teach her that easy enough ;) what about stopping client.... not sure if diff client would help, but find with this cable internet conection, d/l torrents makes net very slow for browsing web pages etc
Nov 18 12:20:22 <daveyboy_> seems 2 eat all bandwidth, so need easy option to stop torrent client rnning
Nov 18 12:22:01 <jannen> you can add rules stop that time use this or that speed etc. or simply close it. you use from your pc "putty" a clickable app log in and put killall rtorrent. not hard to do.
Nov 18 12:23:37 <daveyboy_> good stuff, timer based client would work perfectly anyway, set it to run overnight but kill during day. sounds like i know what my xmass pressent is now ;)
Nov 18 12:23:54 <jannen> irc at #rtorrent and a terrible manual is provided=)
Nov 18 12:24:42 <daveyboy_> is much terminal based? or are there any web interfaces/pc apps? 
Nov 18 12:24:54 <jannen> read here recommended http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
Nov 18 12:25:26 <jannen> its possible witha webinterface but as said no need.
Nov 18 12:26:20 <jannen> it is not much terminal based its all dome that way
Nov 18 12:26:25 <jannen> *done
Nov 18 12:26:32 <jannen> :P
Nov 18 12:26:34 <daveyboy_> no i ment any otehr apps, functionality of product... ie setting up?
Nov 18 12:28:14 <jannen> when you buy it there is a webpage you can use. 
Nov 18 12:29:23 <jannen> later on when you learn that you need to flash FW. there is a good description how-to- read that instrcuction very careful, its not hard.
Nov 18 12:29:48 <jannen> you cant have rtorrent with a vanlilla nlsu2.
Nov 18 12:31:13 <daveyboy_> cheers for that, yea just read rtorrent page, thats exactly what i want 2 do.
Nov 18 12:34:13 <ukwiz> hello all. I have an nslu2 that I unslung a couple of weeks ago, and I am now unable to get into (apart from the web interface. I had installed ssh, but root and my normal root password don't work
Nov 18 12:35:33 <jannen> ukwiz is telnet disabled?
Nov 18 12:36:19 <PPmarcel> try to change admin pasword?
Nov 18 12:42:45 <ukwiz> telnet is enabled, and I am able to log in on the web interface as admin. If I try to telnet in with admin, I get the user prompt, but immediately after entering admin I am disconnected
Nov 18 12:49:11 <jannen> that user (admin) is not the same as you use in webinterface, if you have no other user than root you need to use root and passwd. Think I remember right now...
Nov 18 12:49:44 <jannen> so, enable telnet in webinterface and log in with root?
Nov 18 12:56:28 <ukwiz> jannen, I tried root with my normal root password, and it threw me out
Nov 18 12:58:04 <ukwiz> but that triggered a memory - the password size is limited to 8 characters and I had had to shorten my normal root pw. Trying the shortened version works!
Nov 18 12:58:16 <ukwiz> Thanks for the help anyway
Nov 18 12:58:32 <jannen> good to hear it worked=)
Nov 18 12:59:02 <daveyboy_> ha good old forgotton memeroys..... to much beer that :p
Nov 18 12:59:35 <jannen> never done the same O:-)
Nov 18 13:00:03 <ukwiz> yes, the marbles have dropped out (or perhaps they are just partying)
Nov 18 13:00:55 <ukwiz> while i think about it, is there any way to find out what cpu speed a slug is running at?
Nov 18 13:01:16 <jannen> yes ...wait
Nov 18 13:01:36 <Reedy_Boy> cat /proc/cpuinfo#
Nov 18 13:01:38 <Reedy_Boy> cat /proc/cpuinfo
Nov 18 13:02:04 <Reedy_Boy> ukwiz, ^
Nov 18 13:03:35 <daveyboy_> by way anyone here from uk (guessing u wiz)
Nov 18 13:03:52 <daveyboy_> if so where did you guys get your box from?
Nov 18 13:04:03 <Reedy_Boy> NSLU2's?
Nov 18 13:04:09 <Reedy_Boy> I got mine from ebay..
Nov 18 13:04:09 <daveyboy_> yup
Nov 18 13:04:44 <Reedy_Boy> Amazon have others listed fairly cheaply
Nov 18 13:04:48 <Reedy_Boy> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-NSLU2UK-Storage-Link-Drives/dp/B0002ZDQLI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1195391065&sr=8-1
Nov 18 13:04:54 <Reedy_Boy> £52.11 brand new from amazon
Nov 18 13:05:06 <daveyboy_> yea i seen on amazon
Nov 18 13:05:09 <Reedy_Boy> http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=8543&category_id=589
Nov 18 13:05:15 <Reedy_Boy> £52.11 from CCL - Great shop
Nov 18 13:05:25 <Reedy_Boy> £39.50  Used - Like New  on Amazon
Nov 18 13:05:36 <ukwiz> daveyboy_, I bought mine from Novatech - their showroom is only a few miles away
Nov 18 13:06:11 <Reedy_Boy> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?LIN-NSLU2%2F
Nov 18 13:06:15 <Reedy_Boy> £52.82
Nov 18 13:07:21 <ukwiz> I find novatech pretty good for most things
Nov 18 13:08:01 <daveyboy_> yea thats the one i seen reedy boy. asked for it for xmass pressie. ha 23, full time job living with gf, but still ask for xmass pressies for things i cant be arsed 2 pay for myself
Nov 18 13:08:07 <ukwiz> they are also doing a free next day delivery.
Nov 18 13:08:43 <ukwiz> time to watch the rugby. back later
Nov 18 13:09:00 <Reedy_Boy> daveyboy_, sounds good ;)
Nov 18 13:11:26 <daveyboy_> oh thats cool, will have a notehr tech toy to fiddle with when that arrives. got hacked xbox as it is which eats all my time ;)
Nov 18 13:11:33 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Nov 18 13:11:34 <Reedy_Boy> got to go out shopping
Nov 18 13:11:43 <daveyboy_> laters. cheers for help
Nov 18 13:11:45 <Reedy_Boy> and drop my brother off in the next village for football
Nov 18 13:15:44 <daveyboy_> stupid question: 2.5 inch is latop hdd size aint it
Nov 18 17:49:28 <daveyboy_> hey guys. quick question, with unslung do you need to still format any drives? got 500gb of data on ntfs that i really dont want 2 format/find somewhere to backup
Nov 18 17:59:14 <DrJ> well
Nov 18 17:59:25 <DrJ> 1st) you should backup despite of anything
Nov 18 17:59:33 <DrJ> especially 500GB worth of data
Nov 18 17:59:47 <DrJ> unless you are looking forward to losing all of it
Nov 18 18:00:12 <DrJ> 2nd) I would not recommend NTFS on the slug
Nov 18 18:00:15 <DrJ> but you can do it
Nov 18 18:00:54 <DrJ> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/NTFS
Nov 18 18:01:09 <mwester> You can do NTFS on the slug -- as long as you don't attempt to actually read or write the data.
Nov 18 18:02:47 <DrJ> daveyboy_
Nov 18 18:02:50 <DrJ> my suggest
Nov 18 18:02:56 <DrJ> 1st) backup 
Nov 18 18:03:19 <DrJ> 2nd) you can convert NTFS to ext3 with partionmagic I believe
Nov 18 18:03:35 <DrJ> If you have a second disk
Nov 18 18:03:48 <DrJ> not sure on that
Nov 18 18:46:32 <digii> hmm.. is there anyone when they are installing debian gets that u need a password?
Nov 18 18:46:52 <Reedy_Boy> digii, only the inital ssh logon one
Nov 18 18:47:09 <digii> yea but whats the password?
Nov 18 18:47:16 <Reedy_Boy> user: installer
Nov 18 18:47:17 <Reedy_Boy> pass: install
Nov 18 18:47:19 <Reedy_Boy> AFAIK
Nov 18 18:47:23 <digii> aah :O
Nov 18 18:47:40 <Reedy_Boy> digii, http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/install.html
Nov 18 18:47:40 <digii> thx =)
Nov 18 18:47:52 <Reedy_Boy> You using the normal image digii ?
Nov 18 18:47:58 <Reedy_Boy> As you can install with that :)
Nov 18 18:48:30 <digii> im using the image that cyrius.com recommends
Nov 18 18:48:36 <digii> or what do u mean?
Nov 18 18:49:17 <Reedy_Boy> [2007-08-21] The installer is currently broken because of a problem with the kernel update of 4.0r1. This will be fixed soon with 4.0r2 (probably the first or second week of October). Please use the manual installation method in the meantime. Existing users of Debian/NSLU2 are not affected.
Nov 18 18:49:27 <Reedy_Boy> Its "broken", but you can still use it
Nov 18 18:49:57 <digii> hmm
Nov 18 18:50:08 <digii> broken? whats wrong whit it?
Nov 18 18:50:11 <digii> :D
Nov 18 18:50:21 <Reedy_Boy> It cant find the kernel image it needs
Nov 18 18:50:27 <Reedy_Boy> so the installer "fails"
Nov 18 18:50:45 <digii> :O hmm it didnt fail last time i used it :S
Nov 18 18:50:55 <Reedy_Boy> when was that?
Nov 18 18:51:10 <digii> like 4 - 5 month ago
Nov 18 18:51:20 <Reedy_Boy> yeah, it worked then
Nov 18 18:51:37 <digii> so what should u use now?
Nov 18 18:51:46 <Reedy_Boy> thats the thing
Nov 18 18:51:53 <Reedy_Boy> You can use it, its just not advertised as you can
Nov 18 18:52:00 <Reedy_Boy> If you go through it as normal
Nov 18 18:52:08 <Reedy_Boy> it will get to a point, say it cant find the kernel image it needs
Nov 18 18:52:10 <Reedy_Boy> click ok
Nov 18 18:52:15 <digii> ok
Nov 18 18:52:17 <Reedy_Boy> let it go back through the process
Nov 18 18:52:20 <Reedy_Boy> and you can select one
Nov 18 18:52:33 <Reedy_Boy> select the one that has numbers in it and looks to be the newest
Nov 18 18:53:14 <digii> right now its trying to downloading some release files :S but nothing happens
Nov 18 18:53:30 <Reedy_Boy> how far is that in the install?
Nov 18 18:53:39 <digii> just in the start
Nov 18 18:54:41 <digii> gaah :S the mirrors isnt working :D
Nov 18 18:55:11 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Nov 18 18:55:14 <Reedy_Boy> some are funny
Nov 18 18:56:01 <digii> noone is woring :S
Nov 18 18:57:04 <digii> strange :S
Nov 18 19:16:36 <digii_> Reedy_Boy u know what i need to do when i try to ssh installer@IP  and i get that i cont have the correct key added in know_host?
Nov 18 19:16:56 <digii_> but that makes no sence, i connected to it just 5 min ago
Nov 18 19:17:22 <Reedy_Boy> digii, has it restarted since?
Nov 18 19:17:29 <digii_> yea
Nov 18 19:17:39 <Reedy_Boy> it generates a new key on each boot up when in installer mode
Nov 18 19:17:48 <Reedy_Boy> Its not until its fully installed it gets a static key
Nov 18 19:18:02 <digii_> oh :S
Nov 18 19:18:09 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Nov 18 19:18:09 <digii_> how do i fix it then?
Nov 18 19:18:16 <Reedy_Boy> Get the device fully installed
Nov 18 19:18:34 <digii_> haha yea ;) but i need to get in to the installer again :d
Nov 18 19:19:22 <digii_> btw... is there any image to nslu2 that isnt broken? :O
Nov 18 19:33:44 <mwester-laptop> digii_: Sure.  The latest head builds an image that works pretty well.
Nov 18 19:34:32 <digii_> okok =)
Nov 18 20:47:59 <digii_> whats the diffrens between start menu and start shell in deb install to nslu?
Nov 18 21:05:21 <Reedy_Boy> shell i presume would be doing it text based...?
Nov 18 21:05:23 <Reedy_Boy> I just menu
Nov 18 21:08:57 <digii_> okok
Nov 18 21:48:08 <digii_> mwester when i told me that debian image was broken, was it only the install error that was broken?
Nov 18 22:48:41 <chib0> hi, I have been trying to install vsftpd and failed and then I tried proftpd. I did not succecced in that either but I cannot telnet into my NSLU2 anymore. How do I go about correcting this ?
Nov 18 22:54:56 <mwester-n> if you did not install openssh, just reflash and reinstall is easiest.
Nov 18 22:58:03 <chib0> will I loose all my settings/progs..etc if I reflash ?
Nov 18 22:58:56 <mwester-n> yes :(
Nov 18 23:03:31 <chib0> cheers
Nov 18 23:31:24 <digii__> is there anyone else having problem right after installation whit commands?
Nov 18 23:31:31 <digii__> like ls isnt there
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