**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 08 02:59:57 2007
Dec 08 06:23:59 <akshat> hi
Dec 08 06:24:37 <akshat> i live in india and would like to buy an nslu2 from online stores. which one has the best deals?
Dec 08 12:54:19 <xand> nice spam problems on the debian wiki page :|
Dec 08 13:26:21 <PPmarcel> xand: where do you see this?
Dec 08 13:30:33 <xand> I reverted the page http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/HomePage but looking at the history there's been lots today
Dec 08 13:37:36 <PPmarcel> someone has changed the wiki with useless things?
Dec 08 13:40:15 <DrJ> ?
Dec 08 13:40:22 <DrJ> someone is screwing with the wiki?
Dec 08 15:11:54 <radio> hello
Dec 08 15:12:28 <radio> I've just got one of these doodads.
Dec 08 15:12:42 <radio> becuse I'm bright, I flashed it to unslung
Dec 08 15:12:53 <radio> but there's no web interface anymore:/
Dec 08 15:13:04 <radio> does anyone know why that might happen?
Dec 08 16:59:40 <daveyboy_> hey guys
Dec 08 17:03:03 <daveyboy_> anyone running unslung 6.8 beta?
Dec 08 18:05:05 <xand> I must be really stupid... how do i format a new disk on an un-modified nslu2?
Dec 08 18:05:27 <xand> the web interface seems to have no such option, it just says the disk is unformatted
Dec 08 19:10:46 <Varazir[NA]> I have a question what is normal speed ? like 1MB/s ?
Dec 08 19:12:06 <Reedy_Boy> Varazir[NA], depends which protocol/method your using to transfer files
Dec 08 19:12:14 <Reedy_Boy> ftp is different to samba which is different to nfs
Dec 08 19:12:17 <Reedy_Boy> etc etc
Dec 08 19:12:24 <Varazir[NA]> okay, using samba
Dec 08 19:12:25 <Reedy_Boy> It should be in the wiki IIRC
Dec 08 19:12:59 <Reedy_Boy> Oh, and what firmware Varazir[NA] 
Dec 08 19:13:18 <Reedy_Boy> Varazir[NA], http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/Performance
Dec 08 19:13:28 <Reedy_Boy> Should all be on there
Dec 08 19:13:29 <Varazir> using openslug
Dec 08 19:13:32 <Reedy_Boy> ^^
Dec 08 19:13:36 <Varazir> slugOS
Dec 08 19:13:49 <Varazir> okay thanks
Dec 08 19:16:38 <xand> can I format disks attached to a non-modified slug with the web interface/something other than the windows setup program?
Dec 08 19:44:32 <mwester> xand: I don't understand what you are asking.
Dec 08 19:44:56 <mwester> If you wish to format disks from the Linksys web gui, of course you can do that.
Dec 08 19:45:09 <xand> how? I see no "format" option anywhere
Dec 08 19:46:11 <xand> OH
Dec 08 19:46:18 <Reedy_Boy> Admin, Advanced, Disk
Dec 08 19:46:20 <xand> silly me, didn't look under ADvanced :(
Dec 08 19:46:37 <xand> I was compiling wine so I can run the windows setup utility :(
Dec 08 19:47:21 * xand gets his coat
Dec 08 19:49:26 <Reedy_Boy> haha
Dec 08 19:49:48 <Reedy_Boy> I dont think the windows setup utility can format the drives... Or if it can, it only uses the web interface
Dec 08 20:15:37 <jelle_> is there a diskusage check? I want to know  how much diskspace is used by what directory. my disk is getting full, but I'm not sure why
Dec 08 20:16:00 <Reedy_Boy> du with some parameter..
Dec 08 20:16:01 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Dec 08 20:16:01 <jelle_> and where..
Dec 08 20:16:10 <jelle_> :)
Dec 08 20:18:58 <jelle_> ah, du -a could do something like that...
Dec 08 21:12:08 <Sefram> Is it possible to power an 2.5HDD via NSLU2's USB  power supply? What max current is allowed (how many mA) from USB power of NSLU"?
Dec 08 21:20:04 <xand> hmm
Dec 08 21:20:31 <xand> the "Disk" section under Admin -> Advanced on the web interface says "Not installed" for flash drives, even though the main page shows it correctly
Dec 08 21:20:35 <xand> so I can't format it 
Dec 08 21:20:42 <xand> gr
Dec 08 21:21:02 <mwester> Sefram:  Yes, it is.  Max current should be 500ma.  Startup current can often exceed that, so its possible that your disk may or may not work even if it is rated at 500ma or lower.
Dec 08 21:21:40 <mwester> xand: Linksys does not let you format flash devices (the algorithm is that anything under 10GB in size is a flash device, IIRC).
Dec 08 21:22:13 <xand> mwester: I'm reading the unslung readme, and it says you must format the disk you want to install it...
Dec 08 21:22:14 <mwester> xand: Unslung will let you format flash devices, at least those 512MB and larger.
Dec 08 21:22:15 <Sefram> so linksys officially specifies NSLU2's USB power with max of 500mA?
Dec 08 21:22:18 <xand> s/it/to/
Dec 08 21:22:27 <mwester> xand: flash unslung first, then format.
Dec 08 21:22:49 <mwester> Sefram:  No, Linksys doesn't say.  500ma is just the USB spec.
Dec 08 21:22:59 <xand> I think if the author is going to make a huge deal about reading the readme, they should write it correctly
Dec 08 21:23:41 <mwester> Corrections welcome.
Dec 08 21:24:27 <Sefram> does anyone know a 2.5 HDD with spindown working on NSLU2's USB power? I thought of an WD Passport II 120GB or similar...
Dec 08 21:24:32 <xand> I guess "If you want to use a flash disk as the target for package installation, ensure that it is at least 256MB, and formatted as above via the Linksys web interface." is the offending sentence
Dec 08 21:25:32 <mwester> Probably superceded by the "known problems" section on the wiki.  Did you check that page first?  (512MB is the min size, in fact).
Dec 08 21:27:16 <Sefram> xand: did u tried this HowTo with 'Faking the Slug'? http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseAMemoryStickAsMainDrive
Dec 08 21:39:02 <Sefram> xand: use any linux you have (maybe Knoppix or similar), plug the usbstick to your computer and run cfdisk, partition with data config and swap, make filesystems (mk2fs) and fake the slug with an dummy fdisk while formating this stick on the unslung webinterface. then unslung to disk2 (usbport 2), and run touch /.ext3flash to disable swapping and atimes on the usbstick... this way it worked for me.
Dec 08 21:41:00 <xand> it's ok, I installed unslung now :)
Dec 08 21:41:29 <Sefram> xand: use the rest of the disk space for data partition when formating config and swap with 128mb size.
Dec 08 21:42:43 <Sefram> *unsling to disk 2 (usb2)*
Dec 08 22:04:39 <xand> hm
Dec 08 22:04:59 <xand> the web interface claims the usb flash drive is ntfs/fat which is rubbish
Dec 08 22:14:27 <xand> hmm
Dec 08 22:14:49 <xand> does the web interface assume all flash disks are windows formatted :S
Dec 08 22:39:05 <daveyboy_> hey gys anyone about?
Dec 08 22:40:03 <xand> maybe c.c
Dec 08 22:41:22 <daveyboy_> just getting head around everything i need to do to unslung my box. i spoke while ago about torrent client and some1 suggested rtorrent, but i seen it has probs hashing on box.... any sugestions of easy to use torrent client for slug?
Dec 08 22:43:26 <PPmarcel> daveyboy_: my religion is based on rtorrent :)
Dec 08 22:43:31 <PPmarcel> may i help you with it?
Dec 08 22:43:51 <PPmarcel> other clients exists, but i fear that rtorrent is the most complete
Dec 08 22:44:16 <PPmarcel> you can looking around ctorrent if you want
Dec 08 22:45:33 <PPmarcel> btpd
Dec 08 22:46:01 <PPmarcel> and that's all
Dec 08 22:47:14 <PPmarcel> the only problem i had with unlsung and rtorrent, was the size download which was always at 0
Dec 08 22:47:28 <PPmarcel> but percentage statut was right
Dec 08 22:49:02 <daveyboy_> ppmarcel, im looking to set up rtorrent so that i dont have to use command when i wanna download. i heard that you can set it up so it watches folder for new torrent files, then downlaods and moves to a folder once the file is completed. This is exactly what i want (make the whole thing girrlfriend friendly)
Dec 08 22:49:31 <daveyboy_> found this site: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/ but its not slug specific. is there much diff?
Dec 08 22:49:43 <PPmarcel> i look
Dec 08 22:50:06 <PPmarcel> that's a good tutorial
Dec 08 22:50:10 <PPmarcel> i already used it
Dec 08 22:50:49 <PPmarcel> i can explain you a part about how works scripts in rtorrent
Dec 08 22:51:13 <daveyboy_> yea. looks good. my problem is im new to linux (installed it many years ago, but console is new thing to me really)
Dec 08 22:51:20 <daveyboy_> sure please
Dec 08 22:51:27 <PPmarcel> ok, you come from windows?
Dec 08 22:51:39 <daveyboy_> yea
Dec 08 22:51:45 <PPmarcel> did you ever tryed abc or utorrent?
Dec 08 22:52:02 <daveyboy_> yea got utorrent
Dec 08 22:52:14 <PPmarcel> well, utorrent is similar in the use
Dec 08 22:52:26 <PPmarcel> you've got a principal panel
Dec 08 22:52:33 <daveyboy_> good stuff
Dec 08 22:52:51 <PPmarcel> and you can look seeder, choose what files in the torrent you wxant to dowload or not
Dec 08 22:52:59 <PPmarcel> but it's all in console
Dec 08 22:53:24 <PPmarcel> it's like an interface, except that it's in the consol
Dec 08 22:53:26 <daveyboy_> ok
Dec 08 22:53:26 <PPmarcel> e
Dec 08 22:53:42 <daveyboy_> any web interfaces made?
Dec 08 22:53:51 <PPmarcel> well, the only thing which is hard at the beginning, it's that the configuration is a file
Dec 08 22:54:26 <PPmarcel> yes can have a webinterface, but don't forget that it can be heavy for your slug, to have a wwebinterface
Dec 08 22:54:37 <PPmarcel> tbh, i never tryed :D
Dec 08 22:55:07 <PPmarcel> but i advice you to install rtorrent now if you have a time, then i will explain you how it works
Dec 08 22:55:14 <daveyboy_> ok. on my slug, only thing i after is torrent client i think. ossibly upnp for xbmc, but thats not nessacary
Dec 08 22:55:42 <daveyboy_> getting my slug in week or 2, (xmass pressie)
Dec 08 22:56:02 <PPmarcel> you haven't got linux on your computer?
Dec 08 22:56:29 <daveyboy_> no. wondering about virtual pc program to run linux
Dec 08 22:56:38 <daveyboy_> have a bit of a test
Dec 08 22:57:04 <PPmarcel> hum, you will need a time to enter in liux world anyway :)
Dec 08 22:57:18 <xand> http://www.virtualbox.org/ is good for virtual machines
Dec 08 22:57:18 <PPmarcel> but it's a great adventure
Dec 08 22:57:23 <PPmarcel> yes
Dec 08 22:57:30 <daveyboy_> yea. should be fun ;)
Dec 08 22:57:34 <PPmarcel> qemu too
Dec 08 22:57:35 <xand> (and free/OSS)
Dec 08 22:57:41 <PPmarcel> yes
Dec 08 22:57:55 <PPmarcel> and xen if you don't wan't waste performances
Dec 08 22:58:21 <PPmarcel> daveyboy_: you can look for another tuto on rtorrent
Dec 08 22:58:29 <PPmarcel> but it's not soo hard
Dec 08 22:58:51 <daveyboy_> i am getting virtualbox and going to look at linux before i jump in with slug
Dec 08 22:58:56 <PPmarcel> come back here when you will test it, i can help you
Dec 08 22:59:03 <PPmarcel> ok
Dec 08 22:59:04 <daveyboy_> thanks
Dec 08 22:59:37 <PPmarcel> you can put a message here, i will see it as soon as i will be under my screen
Dec 08 22:59:40 <PPmarcel> the evening
Dec 08 23:00:09 <PPmarcel> and there are a lot of people here who use rtorrent
Dec 08 23:00:34 <daveyboy_> ok 1 more quick question, i got 2 hard drives, (120 gb ide) and (500 gb sata).... and 2 enclosures to make them usb..... want to install unslug 6. which partition format should i go with (basically have unslung on the 120, and have the 500 with data, (that i can hopefully unplug and take round and use on otehr ppls pcs)
Dec 08 23:01:09 <PPmarcel> if you intend to keep their usage with the nslu2 only, use ext3
Dec 08 23:01:20 <PPmarcel> unslung can do it, when you install it
Dec 08 23:01:31 <PPmarcel> unslug*
Dec 08 23:02:08 <daveyboy_> i want 120 gig only for use on unslung, but would like the 500 to be useable with  unslug AND xp if poss?
Dec 08 23:02:13 <PPmarcel> 500 MB is enough to fit unslug
Dec 08 23:02:34 <PPmarcel> you can use 1 GB if you want to install many many many softwares
Dec 08 23:02:53 <PPmarcel> so use fat32 for your 500 GiB
Dec 08 23:03:06 <PPmarcel> unslug and windows can read them
Dec 08 23:03:19 <PPmarcel> but you can't use files over 4 GiB then
Dec 08 23:03:34 <daveyboy_> no, i mean i would like the 500gb hard drive to be able to work with nslu2, and also be able to disconect the hard drive enclosue and conect it to windows pc when i wanna transfer files at friends
Dec 08 23:03:36 <PPmarcel> because fat32 can't use soo large files
Dec 08 23:03:51 <daveyboy_> yea tahst fine
Dec 08 23:03:57 <PPmarcel> ok
Dec 08 23:04:01 <daveyboy_> no isos on that drive
Dec 08 23:04:12 <PPmarcel> no HD isos? :p
Dec 08 23:04:46 <PPmarcel> you can use ext3 too, but you need a driver to read it with windows
Dec 08 23:04:48 <daveyboy_> not for my xbox no
Dec 08 23:04:50 <PPmarcel> i choosed this solution
Dec 08 23:05:31 <PPmarcel> well, i think unslug can use ntfs
Dec 08 23:05:39 <PPmarcel> i look on the website
Dec 08 23:05:51 <daveyboy_> i heard thats its very flakey
Dec 08 23:06:02 <daveyboy_> can read but cant write
Dec 08 23:06:27 <xand> you can write with ntfs3g... I wouldn't use ntfs on linux though
Dec 08 23:06:38 <PPmarcel> a new stable driver has been released in the begining of 2007
Dec 08 23:07:11 <daveyboy_> so what would everyone recoment fat32?
Dec 08 23:07:24 <PPmarcel> the only limit found with ntfs-3g, is encryption and compressed fuctions from windows XP pro
Dec 08 23:07:29 <PPmarcel> but noone use it
Dec 08 23:07:47 <PPmarcel> because using ntfs is too new
Dec 08 23:07:48 <xand> the only filesystems that work on common OSes (windows, linux, os x) are fat(32) and maybe udf
Dec 08 23:08:11 <PPmarcel> ntfs works too
Dec 08 23:08:13 <xand> well, and ISO9660
Dec 08 23:08:13 <PPmarcel> i use it
Dec 08 23:08:18 <xand> ntfs doesn't work on them all
Dec 08 23:08:21 <xand> natively
Dec 08 23:08:25 <PPmarcel> no
Dec 08 23:08:36 <PPmarcel> that's why ntfs-3g exists :)
Dec 08 23:08:57 <PPmarcel> and it's included in a lot of new linux disctributions 
Dec 08 23:09:06 <PPmarcel> knoppix, ubuntu, mandriva....
Dec 08 23:09:16 <daveyboy_> you got link for ntfs-3g ppmarcel? is it installed as default or does it need installing
Dec 08 23:09:22 <PPmarcel> and unslug :)
Dec 08 23:09:26 <mwester> But that doesn't work with the old Linksys kernel
Dec 08 23:09:36 <PPmarcel> sure it don't
Dec 08 23:09:40 <mwester> so not available with unslung.
Dec 08 23:09:56 <PPmarcel> i seen it in optware :o
Dec 08 23:10:22 <PPmarcel> http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/details.php?package=ntfs-3g&official=&format=
Dec 08 23:10:55 <mwester> openslug_cross_unstable
Dec 08 23:11:09 <mwester> That's OpenSlug/SlugOS -- not unslung :(
Dec 08 23:11:25 <daveyboy_> doh
Dec 08 23:11:30 <xand> top
Dec 08 23:11:31 <xand> oops
Dec 08 23:11:34 <daveyboy_> if i have to use fat32, thats fine.
Dec 08 23:11:40 <PPmarcel> hum.. i always get lost with these 2 ipkg
Dec 08 23:11:50 <PPmarcel> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/UnslungFeatures
Dec 08 23:11:58 <PPmarcel> New features available with the new firmware provide:
Dec 08 23:12:01 <PPmarcel> 1. Support for NTFS volumes 
Dec 08 23:12:08 <PPmarcel> what is it so?
Dec 08 23:12:42 <PPmarcel> daveyboy_: yes, actually you should use fat32
Dec 08 23:12:53 <mwester> The bugs with the Linksys driver were not diagnosed and pinpointed to that driver until some time after Unslung was released.
Dec 08 23:13:02 <daveyboy_> that will do me then :) good stuff
Dec 08 23:13:10 <mwester> The wiki page on "Known Problems" has the updated information.
Dec 08 23:13:20 <daveyboy_> fat32 bugs?
Dec 08 23:13:29 <mwester> NTFS
Dec 08 23:13:46 <daveyboy_> fair enough
Dec 08 23:13:57 <mwester> But there are also considerations when using FAT volumes.  Check the "Known Problems" page -- it's required reading.
Dec 08 23:13:59 <daveyboy_> right that has certainly answered some questions. cheers guys
Dec 08 23:14:09 <daveyboy_> ok
Dec 08 23:14:12 <PPmarcel> ok
Dec 08 23:14:20 <daveyboy_> im off 2 watch tv. so cheers guys
Dec 08 23:14:23 <PPmarcel> you're welcome daveyboy_ 
Dec 08 23:15:24 <PPmarcel> mwester: ok i see. It's a strange problem
Dec 08 23:15:35 <PPmarcel> and do you think that slugOS works with it?
Dec 08 23:17:10 <PPmarcel> i just have to test =)
Dec 08 23:18:18 <mwester> I don't know about that particular version, but I tested it, and found it to work pretty well.
Dec 08 23:19:06 <PPmarcel> what firmware do you use usually? :o
Dec 08 23:24:15 <mwester> I run a few Unslung 6.8 slugs, and the others are usually the latest development releases of SlugOS
Dec 08 23:24:42 <PPmarcel> :)
Dec 08 23:26:27 <janneN> evning..shall i consider my slug dead? i can ping it but thats it. can get it into upgrade mode but upgrade tool dont find any. can i check somthing more ?
Dec 08 23:28:03 <PPmarcel> which firmware do you use?
Dec 08 23:28:55 <janneN> slugos
Dec 08 23:30:17 <mwester> Firmware doesn't matter.  If it goes into upgrade mode (confirmed by the LEDs), but you cannot find it on the network, then it is a cable or network problem.
Dec 08 23:30:50 <mwester> Possibly it is inside the slug, but hopefully only a bad cable or a configuration.
Dec 08 23:31:30 <PPmarcel> i asked about formware because of classic check disk problem
Dec 08 23:31:37 <PPmarcel> i debian
Dec 08 23:31:40 <PPmarcel> in
Dec 08 23:32:54 <PPmarcel> mwester: i'm a end-user, but how i could contribuate to the project?
Dec 08 23:33:37 <janne5011> yes its confirmed by leds but its not a network problem
Dec 08 23:34:17 <PPmarcel> ssh say no route host?
Dec 08 23:34:46 <janne5011> conclusion after several times direct conncted to pc and other ways.
Dec 08 23:35:04 <janne5011> puttysays nothing. dead.
Dec 08 23:35:39 <janne5011> i hate this i had my torrent setup and more on that slug
Dec 08 23:36:10 <PPmarcel> then plug the disk on your computer and backup files
Dec 08 23:36:28 <PPmarcel> http://www.fs-driver.org/
Dec 08 23:36:36 <janne5011> yes that can be saved
Dec 08 23:36:39 <PPmarcel> i use this driver for montsh now
Dec 08 23:37:02 <janne5011> thanks
Dec 08 23:37:21 <janne5011> well i got one more slug=)
Dec 08 23:37:35 <PPmarcel> you are rich :)
Dec 08 23:37:57 <janne5011> but i cant run rtorrent on so I need somthuung to replace the slug with
Dec 08 23:38:05 <janne5011> lol
Dec 08 23:38:24 <PPmarcel> what the matter with rtorrent? Ã0:)
Dec 08 23:38:34 <PPmarcel> what is*
Dec 08 23:38:53 <janne5011> the other on is in use for other stuff. media--
Dec 08 23:38:57 <janne5011> *one
Dec 08 23:39:11 <PPmarcel> ok
Dec 08 23:39:19 <janne5011> and its unslung
Dec 08 23:39:32 <PPmarcel> do you use upnp?
Dec 08 23:39:40 <janne5011> yes
Dec 08 23:39:49 <PPmarcel> what is it exactly?
Dec 08 23:40:04 <PPmarcel> i could use it over the web?
Dec 08 23:40:16 <PPmarcel> to stream video?
Dec 08 23:40:42 <janne5011> well...its make so you can click ona icon on win and several mediaserver-apps use it for serve mediaplayers..and...
Dec 08 23:41:28 <janne5011> for example if you use DC++ its use for open ports in a secure way becuse unp close port when DC++ is shutdown
Dec 08 23:41:57 <janne5011> so no you dont need open ports when not in use. iI regard it a lillte bit better
Dec 08 23:42:02 <PPmarcel> is it a sort of proxy?
Dec 08 23:42:07 <janne5011> no
Dec 08 23:42:40 <janne5011> how its works I dont know I only use it=)
Dec 08 23:42:46 <PPmarcel> it just negociate port with the router?
Dec 08 23:42:46 <janne5011> and it works
Dec 08 23:43:08 <janne5011> yes random port is opened
Dec 08 23:43:49 <PPmarcel> i don't see the link with video, i always see "upnp server for you dvd/divx machines"
Dec 08 23:43:52 <janne5011> its a communicatiopn protoctoll
Dec 08 23:43:58 <PPmarcel> ok
Dec 08 23:44:02 <janne5011> or several protocolls
Dec 08 23:44:19 <janne5011> I tried to get it work on ubuntu but no luck.
Dec 08 23:44:26 <janne5011> but I think it can be done
Dec 08 23:44:40 <PPmarcel> i never tryed
Dec 08 23:45:10 <PPmarcel> i should active it
Dec 08 23:48:22 <janne5011> It can be looked at as a security problem but as always if you got windows  need to have a good AV I dont think its a problem. on some routers you need to activate it
Dec 08 23:50:01 <janne5011> my old slug is on lit de parade.
Dec 08 23:51:34 <PPmarcel> do you have a pecial router?
Dec 08 23:51:39 <PPmarcel> *special
Dec 08 23:52:05 <janne5011> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play
Dec 08 23:52:14 <janne5011> good info on that link
Dec 08 23:52:52 <PPmarcel> thank you
Dec 08 23:53:34 <janne5011> no I have used upnp with firestarter and others now I have a dir-655
Dec 08 23:53:49 <janne5011> no need for a spevial router to have it work
Dec 08 23:54:30 <PPmarcel> on min i have to active it manually
Dec 08 23:54:47 <PPmarcel> so i asked, because i don't know if a basic router can use it
Dec 08 23:54:53 <PPmarcel> i mean modem
Dec 08 23:56:27 <janne5011> i used it with mediatomb on the slug and twonkymedia
Dec 08 23:57:30 <janne5011> so no unpn app dont activate it
Dec 09 00:00:03 <PPmarcel> i'm interested byt twonky or mediatomb
Dec 09 00:00:11 <PPmarcel> what can you say me about them?
Dec 09 00:00:27 <PPmarcel> i know they are used to stream video to your dvd reader?
Dec 09 00:02:27 <janne5011> well..I have used both..I can say twonky is more easy-tu use ..but mediatomb is free twonky not. I have used them both for audio only.-
Dec 09 00:02:42 <PPmarcel> ok
Dec 09 00:02:45 <janne5011> I used them and servred a d-link 320-rd
Dec 09 00:03:38 <janne5011> *served. I think at least for audio you dont need to buy twonky. mediatomb is as god and theres a irc-canal if you need help
Dec 09 00:04:40 <janne5011> you can stram audio moves and internet radio with both
Dec 09 00:06:01 <janne5011> jsut  save some m3u files in a directory thats all you got internet radio with mediatomb to. in twonlymedia its inbuilt
Dec 09 00:08:37 <janne5011> you can try twonkymedia for free, 30 days..well thats it=)
Dec 09 00:11:26 <PPmarcel> ^^
Dec 09 00:11:46 <PPmarcel> it's ok
Dec 09 00:12:54 <sunzofman> greetings..
Dec 09 00:13:50 <PPmarcel> hello
Dec 09 00:14:49 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: hello, I just purchased a very nice nslu2 and am in the process of setup.
Dec 09 00:16:10 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: noticed that the default IP is 192.168.1.77, my subnet is setup to recognize 192.168.0.*. is there a simple workaround?
Dec 09 00:16:36 <janne5011> sunzoman do yu use windows?
Dec 09 00:16:49 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: I've not flashed the device yet. was just going to view device via webinterface and possibly flash it via webinterface.
Dec 09 00:17:30 <sunzofman> janne5011: nope. I was planning to use upslug2 to flash. fervent linux user ;)
Dec 09 00:18:38 <janne5011> think theres a way in linux to to add one gateway
Dec 09 00:18:48 <janne5011> in win you can do it
Dec 09 00:19:35 <janne5011> and use tow IP:s
Dec 09 00:19:42 <janne5011> *two
Dec 09 00:21:27 <sunzofman> janne5011: hmm. i have to interfaces on my notebook, (Wireless, PCI).. however, wireless is not working well at the moment. thought would be to add default route gw 192.168.1.* to wireless device.
Dec 09 00:22:40 <janne5011> yes...make sure its reliable upgrade firmware via wlan...be careful
Dec 09 00:22:41 <sunzofman> janne5011: when i flash the device, will it assume that there is DHCP and grab an IP? 
Dec 09 00:23:18 <sunzofman> janne5011: i don't run DHCP on my network.
Dec 09 00:23:37 <janne5011> the times i have done it,had the same IPs as before flashed
Dec 09 00:24:01 <sunzofman> janne5011: would like to give the slug a static IP of my subnet (192.168.0.*)
Dec 09 00:24:23 <janne5011> yes jsut do it before you flash it
Dec 09 00:27:09 <sunzofman> janne5011: understood.. i guess i'll have to assign an interface to 192.168.1.x so that i can _see_ the slug
Dec 09 00:27:51 <janne5011> yes and if I were you --dont upgrade via wlan=)
Dec 09 00:28:34 <sunzofman> janne5011: yes, i agree. i've read about perils assoc. with flashing slug via wlan
Dec 09 00:37:30 <PPmarcel> sunzofman: you can change nslu2 ip after flashing
Dec 09 00:38:09 <PPmarcel> ir you set manually 192.168.0.x in linksys interface before flashing
Dec 09 00:38:20 <PPmarcel> then you needn't changing your interface ip
Dec 09 00:40:31 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: how do i get access to linksys interface? 
Dec 09 00:41:13 <PPmarcel> by webadmin
Dec 09 00:41:28 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: the browser interface doesn't seem to work for me.
Dec 09 00:41:55 <PPmarcel> because nslu2 isn't in the same subnetwork :)
Dec 09 00:42:03 <PPmarcel> i didn't thought to that
Dec 09 00:42:03 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: i know ;)
Dec 09 00:42:07 <PPmarcel> lol
Dec 09 00:42:13 <PPmarcel> ok
Dec 09 00:42:46 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: did mean 'webmin'? 
Dec 09 00:43:14 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: never heard of webadmin
Dec 09 00:43:26 <janne5011> sunzofman surfo to 192.168.1.77 is only way if you use linux
Dec 09 00:43:47 <PPmarcel> yes? i will say webmin now
Dec 09 00:44:01 <PPmarcel> that's sounds weird
Dec 09 00:44:05 <janne5011> Ppmarcel he got a vanliia slug
Dec 09 00:44:14 <janne5011> *vanilla
Dec 09 00:44:56 <janne5011> so theres only linkys webinterface.
Dec 09 00:44:58 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: heh, it prolly is webadmin.. we shorten everything.
Dec 09 00:45:37 <PPmarcel> yes, it is my fault, in my language we always say webadmin, and i thought it was used in english too :)
Dec 09 00:46:12 <janne5011> theres a app cllaed webmin I think so I got confused to lol
Dec 09 00:46:25 <PPmarcel> what is a vanilla slug? you can set a static ip of your choice with linksys webmin
Dec 09 00:46:54 <janne5011> vanilla=linkys soft only
Dec 09 00:47:12 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: so where do i get this linksys webmin?
Dec 09 00:47:36 <sunzofman> janne5011: yes it's vanilla.. or virgin ;)
Dec 09 00:47:42 <janne5011> ;)
Dec 09 00:48:05 <PPmarcel> ah ok :)
Dec 09 00:48:08 <janne5011> http://192.168.1.77
Dec 09 00:48:08 <PPmarcel> hihi
Dec 09 00:48:35 <sunzofman> janne5011: aargh.. 
Dec 09 00:49:17 <janne5011> =)
Dec 09 00:50:18 <sunzofman> janne5011: I'm going to have to give this more thought..
Dec 09 00:50:38 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: any other ideas?
Dec 09 00:51:10 <mwester-laptop> What's the problem?
Dec 09 00:51:30 <PPmarcel> do what janne5011 said you before
Dec 09 00:51:45 <janne5011> well what you need to do. put your nework card one of them to for example 192.168.1.10. connect the cable from nslu2 to that card and surf  http://192.168.1.77
Dec 09 00:51:49 <PPmarcel> changing your computer interface until you have installed your firmware
Dec 09 00:52:32 <sunzofman> mwester-laptop: vanilla slug, that is in the wrong subnet. need to change it to 192.168.0.x
Dec 09 00:53:05 <sunzofman> janne5011: aha.. so i can connect directly to the slug va ethernet.. eth0..
Dec 09 00:53:12 <janne5011> then set evertyhing in webinterface as you want. it. read the README file very careful before flashing.
Dec 09 00:53:25 <janne5011> yes
Dec 09 00:53:34 <sunzofman> janne5011: will this require a null cable?
Dec 09 00:53:51 <mwester-laptop> Set an interface on the host to operate on the 192.168.1.x subnet, navigate to 192.168.1.77, and set up a static IP, netmask, and gateway.  It will be remembered after reflash.
Dec 09 00:53:53 <janne5011> no ordinary cable will do it
Dec 09 00:55:50 <sunzofman> janne5011: great.. i'll do give it a try. thx
Dec 09 00:56:17 <sunzofman> mwester-laptop: thx also
Dec 09 00:56:33 <sunzofman> PPmarcel: you too
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