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Dec 13 07:26:35 <jsjc> hi
Dec 13 07:26:38 <jsjc> anyone awake?
Dec 13 07:27:57 <jsjc> anyone knows why? this happens?
Dec 13 07:28:03 <jsjc> ./root/reoback # perl
Dec 13 07:28:13 <jsjc> ./bin/sh: perl: not found
Dec 13 07:28:22 <jsjc> ???
Dec 13 08:13:13 <xcasex> jsjc: do me a favour, try any other command, like cp, ls etc.
Dec 13 08:17:20 <jsjc> xcasex not a proble
Dec 13 08:17:25 <jsjc> it is just that one
Dec 13 08:19:10 <jsjc> is just with perl
Dec 13 08:19:14 <xcasex>    [Caha.
Dec 13 08:19:18 <xcasex> ipkg install perl
Dec 13 08:19:38 <jsjc> Package perl (5.8.8-17) installed in root is up to date.
Dec 13 08:25:47 <jsjc> the i vbeen a couple days reading and getting crazy
Dec 13 08:26:03 <jsjc> people said it was that perl was not in /usr/bin so a symlink should be created
Dec 13 08:26:29 <jsjc> and is not that... trying lots of things and nothing..
Dec 13 08:55:49 <jsjc> nobody has a clue of why? I think it is pretty weird!
Dec 13 10:12:03 <unflight> hi need help, want to install back linksys fw v23r29  for NSLU2 on top of unslung V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta
Dec 13 10:12:20 <unflight> got a bad filename or bad format.  help
Dec 13 10:14:33 <unflight> nobody?
Dec 13 10:46:46 <vrlk> should it be enough to enable dhcp on the admin page in order to get an ip from my isp? cos all im getting now is a few beeps and then it sets the ip to 192.168.1.77
Dec 13 10:47:19 <vrlk> not using a router, just a switch
Dec 13 14:01:33 <doughie> anyone have any experience of fdisk
Dec 13 14:01:51 <doughie> i am trying to partition my slug and it keeps failing
Dec 13 14:05:28 <doughie> why does the slug need 5 partitions?
Dec 13 14:08:11 <barnseen1o> why, does yours have 5 partitions?
Dec 13 14:12:24 <doughie> i am trying to use fdisk and it fails complaining that the number partitions is less than 4+!
Dec 13 14:12:27 <doughie> 4+1
Dec 13 14:17:51 <barnseen1o> lol
Dec 13 14:17:51 <barnseen1o> ive never (knowlingly) used fdisk
Dec 13 14:17:51 <barnseen1o> *knowingly
Dec 13 14:18:32 <doughie> the auto allocate partitions creates a swap that is too small and i thought it easeier partition manuall in the shell
Dec 13 14:18:48 <doughie> i have partitioned it now but i keep getting disconnected
Dec 13 14:18:55 <doughie> i have 256mb swap
Dec 13 14:19:00 <doughie> is that enough?
Dec 13 14:19:58 <barnseen1o> no idea my friend. i just blindly followed the instructions on the wiki (for debianslug) about a year and a half ago, and havent dicked with that stuff since :(
Dec 13 14:20:18 <doughie> fair enough
Dec 13 14:20:36 <doughie> the instructions from the wiki do not seem to work at the moment
Dec 13 14:20:46 <doughie> i keep getting disconnected
Dec 13 14:27:36 <barnseen1o> yeah the wiki is a bit confusing in places (although i havent mustered any effort to suggest alternatives )
Dec 13 15:01:32 <vrlk> could anyone point me in the right direction on how to get dhcp to work? cos all im getting is
Dec 13 15:01:33 <vrlk> 5 12/13 14:44:39 Get IP from DHCP server fail
Dec 13 15:01:33 <vrlk> 5 12/13 14:44:39 Get IP Address Fail!
Dec 13 15:02:04 <vrlk> ive googled for hours and read the wiki, but i still cant get it to work ;x
Dec 13 15:05:07 <vrlk> im using the unslung firmware btw
Dec 13 15:06:12 <McSalty> Hi, would the slug be fast enough to serve a full linux system for pxe booting? Anyone tried this before?
Dec 13 15:26:11 <PPmarcel> vrlk: dhcp is provided by your modem or your router. It appair that you have a problem with your network
Dec 13 15:26:21 <PPmarcel> what is the adress of your touer?
Dec 13 15:26:24 <PPmarcel> router*
Dec 13 15:27:17 <PPmarcel> McSalty: you want to enable pxe on your slug, or use it as a tft server for pxe clients?
Dec 13 15:27:34 <PPmarcel> *tftp server
Dec 13 15:28:02 <PPmarcel> McSalty: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/PxeBootServer
Dec 13 15:28:55 <vrlk> PPmarcel, i dont use a router. im using a switch so its my isp that provides the ip#
Dec 13 15:29:10 <vrlk> works fine on everything exept my nsl
Dec 13 15:29:13 <McSalty> thanks PPmarcel, i'll take a look at it
Dec 13 15:29:48 <PPmarcel> vrlk: ok, but your modem provide dhcp and nat fuctions, right?
Dec 13 15:29:54 <vrlk> ye
Dec 13 15:29:54 <PPmarcel> you should try a static ip
Dec 13 15:31:02 <vrlk> that would probably not work im afraid
Dec 13 15:31:08 <PPmarcel> why?
Dec 13 15:31:31 <PPmarcel> maybe you could try to fix it manually, if webadmin isn't working well
Dec 13 15:32:21 <PPmarcel> i guess your slug will works a long time peer day, if you use static ip, you will be able to transfert ports over the web
Dec 13 15:32:39 <vrlk> because in order for my internet to work, i need an ip from my isp
Dec 13 15:33:35 <PPmarcel> humm
Dec 13 15:33:56 <vrlk> if i dont use a router that is, which im not
Dec 13 15:34:13 <PPmarcel> you can choose manually an ip on your slug, and transfer the port over the web then, via the nat (or pat)
Dec 13 15:34:50 <PPmarcel> am i clear? :)
Dec 13 15:37:28 <vrlk> think i get it, but i would much rather get the dhcp to work.. cant be impossible? thou it feels like it atm ;E
Dec 13 15:38:32 <PPmarcel> well, could you explain me somthing?
Dec 13 15:38:41 <vrlk> what
Dec 13 15:38:56 <PPmarcel> is it your isp, or your modem, which give you an ip in your own network?
Dec 13 15:39:21 <vrlk> its my isp
Dec 13 15:39:33 <PPmarcel> you never use more than  computers?
Dec 13 15:39:48 <PPmarcel> more than 2 computers
Dec 13 15:40:19 <vrlk> ive had 4 plugged in
Dec 13 15:40:25 <vrlk> now its 2 + the nsl
Dec 13 15:40:36 <PPmarcel> what is your actual address, on your comuter?
Dec 13 15:40:39 <PPmarcel> computer
Dec 13 15:41:00 <PPmarcel> is it something like 192.168.x.x ?
Dec 13 15:41:07 <vrlk> no
Dec 13 15:41:19 <vrlk> its the ip u see if u whois me
Dec 13 15:41:44 <PPmarcel> aaaah ipv6 ^^
Dec 13 15:41:49 <PPmarcel> î can't help you
Dec 13 15:42:10 <PPmarcel> i'm just used to ipv public address, and redirections with private adresses
Dec 13 15:42:34 <PPmarcel> where i live, isp don't give individual ip if you have a network
Dec 13 15:42:44 <vrlk> no its ipv4 :p
Dec 13 15:42:45 <vrlk> ok
Dec 13 15:42:47 <PPmarcel> i need a pat and share the same ip public
Dec 13 15:43:20 <PPmarcel> it's ipv4? i really don't get it
Dec 13 15:43:31 <PPmarcel> it should works like that:
Dec 13 15:43:50 <vrlk> its not ipv6 anyway
Dec 13 15:44:36 <PPmarcel> ISP(public DHCP) ---- (public IP | YOUR MODEM | private ips with pat) ------ (private ip * x computers)
Dec 13 15:45:01 <PPmarcel> so your dhcp in your networks is your modem
Dec 13 15:45:17 <PPmarcel> excpect if you have a really special FAI, or if you have a professionnal offer
Dec 13 15:45:25 <PPmarcel> FAI is ISP
Dec 13 15:45:48 <PPmarcel> my language is coming back sometimes :p
Dec 13 15:46:33 <vrlk> well, im getting 4 different public ips from my isp. like if i connect 4 pcs to the switch all of them get one
Dec 13 15:46:51 <vrlk> and its not a lan ip, u could ping all of them
Dec 13 15:46:53 <PPmarcel> haha ok :D
Dec 13 15:47:14 <PPmarcel> freenode hide me your ip, i thought it was ipv6
Dec 13 15:47:25 <vrlk> aha
Dec 13 15:48:12 <PPmarcel> well, your only way is plugin your slug on  of your computers, so trhough a proxy, and plug a router in instead of the th computer, and plug other devices on it
Dec 13 15:48:24 <PPmarcel> or asking to your isp an another ip
Dec 13 15:48:34 <PPmarcel> maybe you have to pay then :p
Dec 13 15:49:02 <vrlk> so the dhcp in unslung is borked?
Dec 13 15:49:50 <vrlk> cant it be a conf issue?
Dec 13 15:53:22 <PPmarcel> well, you said that your isp gives you  ip, and that you already have  computers
Dec 13 15:53:38 <PPmarcel> with the slug, you miss one ip
Dec 13 15:53:49 <PPmarcel>  is your max?
Dec 13 15:53:53 <PPmarcel> 4 is your max?
Dec 13 15:53:58 <vrlk> i have 3 with the slug
Dec 13 15:54:09 <vrlk> should be np imo
Dec 13 15:54:28 <PPmarcel> aah ok
Dec 13 15:54:29 <PPmarcel> lol
Dec 13 15:54:34 <vrlk> indeed
Dec 13 15:55:01 <PPmarcel> you have the right gateway i the slug?
Dec 13 15:57:04 <vrlk> do i need one with dhcp?
Dec 13 15:59:29 <vrlk> you know any "suitably mature udhcpc"?
Dec 13 16:04:52 <PPmarcel> nop
Dec 13 16:08:08 <PPmarcel> vrlk ?
Dec 13 16:08:23 <vrlk> yes?
Dec 13 16:08:36 <PPmarcel> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/GetDHCPWorking <-- your answer
Dec 13 16:09:27 <vrlk> ye ive read it, but i cant find any udhcpc default.script :x
Dec 13 16:09:41 <vrlk> gonna play with it abit now thou
Dec 13 16:09:53 <PPmarcel> ok
Dec 13 16:10:05 <PPmarcel> stay here, maybe someone will answer you
Dec 13 16:11:05 <vrlk> i will, the problem is i need to change my ip in order to access the slug, so ill be disconnected :p
Dec 13 16:11:26 <vrlk> anyway, see you in a while
Dec 13 18:07:56 <McSalty> the pxe boot works, although it's a little slow. but now i want to attach a cellar phone (usb?) to send and receive sms, anyone who knows what drivers and software i could use? 
Dec 13 20:16:47 <PPmarcel_> McSalty: asterisk
Dec 13 20:17:00 <PPmarcel_> it's a sip server
Dec 13 20:17:55 <McSalty> i don't want sip, just drivers and software to be able to receive and send sms
Dec 13 20:20:01 <PPmarcel_> humm
Dec 13 20:20:27 <PPmarcel_> and your cellular? =)
Dec 13 20:22:03 <McSalty> yes, think that's a good idea, but it's usb, and i need drivers for it to get it work, also i think the app to receive and send sms would be a bigger problem than the drivers, well i think
Dec 13 20:30:11 <McSalty> gtg now, thanks for help
Dec 13 20:35:36 <vrlk> this shit is really starting to piss me off
Dec 13 20:39:30 <vrlk> :O
Dec 13 20:39:33 <vrlk> wow
Dec 13 20:39:46 <vrlk> i got it to work PPmarcel_ ;D
Dec 13 20:40:03 <vrlk> i think
Dec 13 20:48:10 <vrlk> ye, its working.. all i had to do was to set an ip in the right range 
Dec 13 21:17:51 <vrlk> nvm, my isp cuts the connection after a few mins.. sigh
Dec 13 21:41:53 <doughie> i cannot install debian on my slug. can somebody help me.  the slug is not detecting /dev/sda
Dec 13 21:42:55 <doughie> i have a flash stick in it. i have tested the flash stick on two other machines and it works okay
Dec 13 21:42:58 <solarbaby> maybe it'll install in the other usb port
Dec 13 21:43:10 <doughie> tried that
Dec 13 21:43:34 <solarbaby> I had a problem with Debian a long time ago too.. I settled on UnSlung
Dec 13 21:43:53 <doughie> i know how to use debian
Dec 13 21:43:58 <doughie> what is unslung like?
Dec 13 21:44:30 <solarbaby> Unslung is a very basic linux with a very old kernel..  its glitchy but with the right reading you can do most anything with it
Dec 13 21:45:13 <doughie> what about package support
Dec 13 21:45:25 <solarbaby> what bugs me the most about it is that directories are repeateed in multiple sections and it takes a while to figure out where the relevent config files are.. 
Dec 13 21:45:32 <solarbaby> theres lots of packages
Dec 13 21:45:48 <doughie> ah
Dec 13 21:46:34 <solarbaby> I have irssi running on it, with all instant messengers, screen, web server, samba server, ftp, and it supports ntsf and ext3, fat fat16 etc..  so its useful
Dec 13 21:46:52 <doughie> mhh
Dec 13 21:46:57 <doughie> sounds okay
Dec 13 21:47:03 <doughie> what webserver are you running on it?
Dec 13 21:47:25 <solarbaby> yeah its okay..  you just have to install what packages are provided for you, instead of compiling your own..  no big deal since they provide most of what you would want
Dec 13 21:47:30 <solarbaby> appweb
Dec 13 21:47:36 <doughie> mhh
Dec 13 21:48:12 <doughie> i think i will try debian one more time and then probably unslung. the only thing is it kinda looks deprecated
Dec 13 21:48:26 <solarbaby> lots of developers in this channel are running debian, so im sure you could find the help you need eventually though
Dec 13 21:48:46 <doughie> its so frustrating.  i have been trying all day
Dec 13 21:48:57 <doughie> i have it recoginising the flash stick again now
Dec 13 21:49:30 <doughie> plus i am soo hung over from last night :(
Dec 13 21:49:34 <solarbaby> I never used a flash stick as an operating system..  personall i'd use a real big hard drive :)
Dec 13 21:49:53 <solarbaby> my boot drive is a 750 gig usb 
Dec 13 21:49:59 <doughie> i dont have one at the moment. i will need to wait for payday or see what santa brings me.
Dec 13 21:50:19 <solarbaby> how big is the flash stick?
Dec 13 21:50:29 <doughie> i was going to install on the stick and then copy over to hdd when i get it
Dec 13 21:50:30 <doughie> 4GB
Dec 13 21:50:39 <solarbaby> its plenty big enough
Dec 13 21:50:46 <doughie> should hope so
Dec 13 21:51:06 <doughie> my slug will more of a toy than a file server for the next few months
Dec 13 21:51:25 <solarbaby> mine feeds a bunch of avi's to my xbox's
Dec 13 21:51:29 <solarbaby> wirelessly
Dec 13 21:51:35 <doughie> xbox 360?
Dec 13 21:51:42 <solarbaby> naw..  black xbox
Dec 13 21:51:55 <doughie> i was going to do the same once i get the hdd
Dec 13 21:52:06 <solarbaby> it works sooooo very well
Dec 13 21:52:09 <doughie> you have a wireless adapter attached to your slug?
Dec 13 21:52:11 <solarbaby> I love xbmc..  
Dec 13 21:52:19 <doughie> it is sweet
Dec 13 21:52:20 <MiKa_> bazz-: where is caplink ? i miss him here..
Dec 13 21:52:33 <solarbaby> I bought a linksys 54g router and set it up like as a wireless bridge
Dec 13 21:52:40 <doughie> ahh i c
Dec 13 21:52:46 <doughie> i wanted to get my slug to do it all
Dec 13 21:53:00 <solarbaby> its sweeet.. unlsung does do the job
Dec 13 21:53:29 <solarbaby> since you know debian, I'd focus on making that work for you
Dec 13 21:53:42 <doughie> yeah i dont fancy learning yet another linux
Dec 13 21:53:58 <solarbaby> Unslung is messy
Dec 13 21:53:58 <doughie> i prefer gentoo but it is just too alpha on the slug
Dec 13 21:54:13 <doughie> i am trying again.
Dec 13 21:54:22 * doughie crosses his fingers
Dec 13 21:54:24 <doughie> argh
Dec 13 21:54:31 <solarbaby> it'll work eventually
Dec 13 21:54:39 <doughie> i think it is due to my partition sizes
Dec 13 21:54:53 <solarbaby> hangover time sucks though..  you might wanna wait until someone can guide you through it
Dec 13 21:55:00 <doughie> i read somewhere that larger partitions take more mem
Dec 13 21:55:22 <solarbaby> i dunno.. my drive is 750, and its got a very large partition :)
Dec 13 21:55:36 <doughie> did you install on that or add it after?
Dec 13 21:55:46 <solarbaby> I installed the operating system to it
Dec 13 21:56:56 <doughie> it is weird
Dec 13 21:57:25 <doughie> it disconnects me when i apply the file system to sda1 but doesnt when i apply it to sda3.  and sda1 is smaller
Dec 13 22:10:39 <doughie> arghhhhh
Dec 13 22:10:47 <doughie> is anyone able to help please
Dec 13 22:39:31 <doughie> hey solarbaby, do you only have the one partition?
Dec 13 22:43:20 <solarbaby> doughe: http://pastebin.com/dc4830e2
Dec 13 22:46:04 <doughe> sweet
Dec 13 23:34:46 <doughe> there may be a bug in the installer.  it tries to get http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.18-4-ixp4xx_2.6.18.dfsg.1-12_arm.deb during the installation and it is not there.
Dec 14 01:25:33 <joshin> doughie: I guess I should get around to making my Gentoo Stage4 available for the Slug.  
Dec 14 01:26:24 * joshin adds it to the list
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