**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 06 02:59:57 2008 Jan 06 04:42:41 i can't seem to find any crontab program on my UnSlung Jan 06 04:43:03 any helpful thoughts would be appreciated Jan 06 04:44:14 /opt/etc/crontab Jan 06 04:55:48 when i type crontab -e it does nothing.. there is no crontab program Jan 06 04:58:25 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/DebugCrontabProblems Jan 06 04:59:38 been there Jan 06 04:59:42 shrug Jan 06 05:00:01 I've never been able to figure it out.. its been over a year Jan 06 05:00:25 least on my mythtv box I have working crontabs Jan 06 05:17:39 solarbaby: edit the crontab with a text editor. Jan 06 05:24:15 ahh i was uncertain that would work Jan 06 12:47:38 hey guys. unlsung y box, but find i get much slower access times to data from my xbox than with stock firmware. any sugestions/ideas of stuff to sort? Jan 06 12:49:49 how you accessing it from the xbox? Jan 06 12:51:45 i got chipped xbox which runs xbmc (media center)...accessing over smb via wired network Jan 06 13:03:40 also, is there any decent pluggin/software that reads slug formated hard drive. ried couple yesterday but they didnt let me write data Jan 06 13:06:14 in windows? Jan 06 13:06:33 yea Jan 06 13:30:11 well SlugOS handel files larger then 2 or 4 GB ? Jan 06 13:30:33 will Jan 06 13:30:46 daveyboy_ try IFS Drives Jan 06 13:31:26 well you can read linux formated drives with that Jan 06 13:31:49 and write Jan 06 16:27:41 how do i enable ntfs write on my nslu2, its running debian 4.0 r2.... i tried using ntfs-3g but it installed an unstable version of libc6 so i had to reformat... Jan 06 16:58:35 Mike_: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/index.html#usage Jan 06 16:59:01 you just have to install it, and use option -t ntfs-3g, with mount command Jan 06 16:59:25 i found that Jan 06 16:59:38 do you use etch? Jan 06 16:59:49 i shouldn't have an unstable version libcd6 Jan 06 16:59:55 libc6 Jan 06 17:00:13 but it required libc6 >= 2.6.1-1 which muked up my system last time Jan 06 17:00:54 and yea i use etch Jan 06 17:01:26 i just grab the stable source release? or do i click debian Jan 06 17:02:06 i advace you to upgrade to lenny at least Jan 06 17:02:18 is has ntfs-3g in it packages Jan 06 17:02:42 don't try to upgrade libc6 in etch, it make the system unstable Jan 06 17:02:51 makes* Jan 06 17:03:32 i just thought it would be safer and easier to just format the drive as ext3... and install a program on my windows box that enables reading of ext2/3 fs Jan 06 17:04:11 that's the best choice, indeed Jan 06 17:04:40 and with ext3, you can backup file easyly than windows Jan 06 17:04:46 and there is no fragmentation Jan 06 17:05:24 yea lol i got so caught up in trying to make it ntfs i never really stopped to think XD Jan 06 17:05:39 that about reiserfs whats better about it? Jan 06 17:05:54 i hearded that it's faster than ext3 Jan 06 17:06:05 but can you read it with windows: i don't know Jan 06 17:07:54 yea thats what i was thinking Jan 06 17:08:17 one last thing, umm are you familiar with UUIDs? Jan 06 18:24:09 whats best xp prog for reading slug formated ext3 drive? Jan 06 18:26:51 daveybo1: i use explore2fs Jan 06 18:27:13 cool stuff. thanks Jan 06 18:27:41 That doesnt write tho IIRC Jan 06 18:27:55 daveybo1: i work with 'ext2 ifs' Jan 06 18:28:02 daveybo1 -> http://www.fs-driver.org/ Jan 06 18:36:25 PPmarcel, do you have time for a ? Jan 06 19:24:09 why doesn't crontab -e work in unslung? Jan 06 19:39:25 because crontab -e is not a standard feature of the Linksys firmware. Jan 06 19:40:16 Usually, one would install an optware package with the full-featured version of the package -- did you check to see if optware had an improved cron utility? Jan 06 19:42:57 just crond i believe Jan 06 19:53:46 mwester-laptop: is it wise to flash a slug using 'upslug2' without it having a known IP address? Jan 06 19:54:50 mwester-laptop: using the provided linksys software, the slug doesn't appear to have the factory default IP. Jan 06 19:56:46 sunzofman: I don't know what you are trying to do, so I'm not sure what you are asking. Yes, it is fine to flash a slug with upslug2 at any time. Jan 06 19:57:41 If you have flashed the Linksys firmware, and have lost it on the network, just follow the Linksys instructions to reset to defaults. Jan 06 19:57:50 flash and then flash like you can't flsh no more Jan 06 20:11:06 mwester-laptop: i have a vanilla slug, that I wish to flash using upslug2. i haven't identified the IP address. couldn't detect it on my network. i later tried using linksys web interface to detect device and assoc. IP. linksys software detected slug, but it did not report an IP address. Jan 06 20:12:06 Use it to set an IP address then sunzofman Jan 06 20:16:05 anyone any idea why i cant login into admin share of hard drives with xp, but my xbox works fiine when enterng same username/password. Jan 06 20:54:50 I get this message (ds101j) when I try to run mc. What could be the reason ? mc: error while loading shared libraries: libcom_err.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Jan 06 20:55:45 erikja: libcom_err is not installed. You need to find what package supplies that library, and install it first. Jan 06 20:57:04 Or possibly, if you have libcom_err.so.1 in your /lib, /usr/lib/, or /opt/lib, or even /opt/usr/lib directory, then it is too old, and perhaps the mc that you installed needs you to upgrade your other software first. Jan 06 20:58:08 I would like to move my linux system to another disc.. Jan 06 20:58:20 I don't know what is needed to make it boot from a copy.. Jan 06 20:58:28 can someone help me out a bit? Jan 06 20:59:28 ErikR: when you find out, add it the wiki - i want to do the same thing! Jan 06 20:59:50 hehe Jan 06 21:00:12 okay.. well.. I found something about LILO stuff in the "normal" linux case Jan 06 21:00:26 but I have no clue whether that's applicable at all in the nslu2 case Jan 06 21:00:27 are you unslung? Jan 06 21:00:36 NSLU2/Debian Jan 06 21:00:41 even better - me too Jan 06 21:00:57 Why not go all the way? ;) Jan 06 21:01:15 i want to switch from a HD to a stick Jan 06 21:01:29 seriously then - if you find out either wiki it or drop me a mail to bb@osix.net Jan 06 21:02:07 hehe.. For sure.. it will be a first in the public wiki-ing for me :) Jan 06 21:03:05 My current idea is to just install it over again on the stick and copy my config files over there Jan 06 21:03:14 but I can't seem to get the thing into upgrade med Jan 06 21:03:16 mode Jan 06 21:03:36 do you have yourt os on a stick? Jan 06 21:03:45 i just use one 500gb disk for everything Jan 06 21:04:02 I have a 40Gb for the system Jan 06 21:04:15 And a 320gb for some ehh more spatios stuff :P Jan 06 21:04:22 right Jan 06 21:04:38 I waht to get the system on a stick to reduce moving parts and such things Jan 06 21:04:40 i wanted to to a copy of everything important to another 250gb disk i have lying around Jan 06 21:04:57 hmm.. define "everything important" :) Jan 06 21:05:08 right, yeah ive never bothered with the stick part - although if it turns out easy for you i may be interested Jan 06 21:05:19 well, just important system files, not all the movies/music etc Jan 06 21:06:18 my slug has evolved over 2-3 yrs to be just sweet for me, so at night i often think about the day that disk dies. Jan 06 21:06:54 guys anyone used ccxstream here before? Jan 06 21:07:27 I am considering getting a RAID1 USB thingy for "important stuff" Jan 06 21:07:52 mm i dont think i cbf with raid Jan 06 21:08:01 cbf? Jan 06 21:08:02 i just want a backup of a working system Jan 06 21:08:06 can't be fucked Jan 06 21:08:19 * barnseenio hasnt daveybo1 although im aware of it Jan 06 21:08:39 ahh.. I am looking into rsync or rsnapshoting things for stopping messer uppers Jan 06 21:09:02 but a stable system copy is never a bad idea I suppose Jan 06 21:09:59 One thougt is that perhaps it's enough to copy the partition layout to the stick Jan 06 21:10:17 and then the data.. and just replacing the stick in the Disk 1 port Jan 06 21:10:53 thinking that the slug will go off looking for the things in /dev/sda1 disk or so when booting? Jan 06 21:10:59 mwester, Thank you, I'll investigate :-) Jan 06 21:11:15 noob question (unslung other day...LIKING it)...but accessing folder from xbox is SLOW, so wondering about trying ccxstream....it says run s75ccxstream...whats run command? Jan 06 21:13:14 What do you use your slug for barnseenio ? Jan 06 21:18:16 mwester, I have those: http://pastebin.ca/844333 Jan 06 21:19:32 anyone help? Jan 06 21:19:55 oor explain why xbox havin slow access times to slug hard drives. what can i do to change? Jan 06 21:22:57 is it when you want to watch video off the slug daveybo1 ? Jan 06 21:23:14 I have noticed that my .vob things play really slow too Jan 06 21:23:18 mwester, it's those: /lib/libcom_err.so.3.0 Jan 06 21:23:19 /lib/libcom_err.so.3 Jan 06 21:23:19 /lib/libcom_err.so Jan 06 21:23:22 music streams very good Jan 06 21:40:00 sorry, just popped out... no playback is fine. its accessing folders... ie msuic, or films...high quatity of files, but is a right slow access time Jan 06 22:11:02 ErikR: i use mine for mainly films and music via smb to xbmc. but also use for irssi/http Jan 06 22:11:21 what is irssi? :) Jan 06 22:11:27 irc client Jan 06 22:11:34 oh okay.. Jan 06 22:11:37 cool Jan 06 22:11:50 I use mine as an audioplayer in the reading room now Jan 06 22:12:00 but I think I'm going to go for the squeezebox instead :) Jan 06 22:12:12 or soundbridge or so Jan 06 22:12:26 less bending over backwards that way :) Jan 06 22:12:32 oh i have a soundbridge Jan 06 22:13:05 for the kitchen Jan 06 22:13:12 you like? :) Jan 06 22:13:17 yes its sweet ;-) Jan 06 22:13:23 goody Jan 06 22:13:34 i find firefly a little slow Jan 06 22:13:43 well, i guess its the slug thats the slow part ;-) Jan 06 22:13:45 oh.. eh... what's that? :) Jan 06 22:14:06 firefly is the mt-daapd server Jan 06 22:14:12 feeds tunes to soundbridge Jan 06 22:14:27 oh okay.. :) Jan 06 22:14:43 I am going to stick the tunes in a more proper closet server I think Jan 06 22:15:01 right Jan 06 22:15:02 it's too much pain making the "ultra low power server" out of the slug Jan 06 22:15:12 even though I like the idea still :) Jan 06 22:15:21 well ive been happy with mine Jan 06 22:15:32 but i think xbmc will soon become the weak linik Jan 06 22:15:34 link Jan 06 22:15:44 as i will be wanting to move to a high def player soon Jan 06 22:15:51 and xbox isnt capable Jan 06 22:15:52 mm.. I have xbmc too Jan 06 22:16:02 im gonna probably get a soundbridge to play music streamed from my slug Jan 06 22:16:06 ive been toying with idea of going ps3 Jan 06 22:16:13 yeah.. I am thinking of a mobile core2 duo MB to build from Jan 06 22:16:51 ps3 currently only seems to do streams though, not smb Jan 06 22:17:01 although i imagine it will at some point Jan 06 22:17:03 I think ps3 is loud too :P Jan 06 22:17:09 although I have never even seen one :D Jan 06 22:17:40 well i was going to buy a high def lan player, at around 199£ but, seems that a ps3 is not much more Jan 06 22:18:06 although i will miss the xbmc interface Jan 06 22:18:10 I would like a lan player which is hackable Jan 06 22:18:23 topfield are best for that Jan 06 22:18:24 so that I can play around with it :) Jan 06 22:18:24 imo Jan 06 22:18:33 well, if you dont use a pc Jan 06 22:18:41 is topfield a hackable player? Jan 06 22:18:45 yeah Jan 06 22:18:46 never heard that.. Jan 06 22:18:49 can write apps for it etc Jan 06 22:19:26 interesting.. Jan 06 22:19:31 seems that bluray just won the format wars, so ps3 seems best bluray player + highdef lan Jan 06 22:19:33 what sort of environmetn? Jan 06 22:19:58 www.toppy.org.uk Jan 06 22:20:05 actually xbmc is capable of 1080p. not just on the xbox1 hw Jan 06 22:20:07 tap library of apps written for topfield Jan 06 22:20:30 i was thinking of building on the Abit IL-90MV motherboard Jan 06 22:20:30 yes i understand xcasex Jan 06 22:20:41 yeah.. it is getting a bit old Jan 06 22:21:05 does xbmc run on other systems ? Jan 06 22:21:38 barnseenio: linux, osx Jan 06 22:21:43 k Jan 06 22:22:03 oh.. Jan 06 22:22:08 that would be cool :) Jan 06 22:22:22 because xbmc is very likeable Jan 06 22:22:29 yes, beautiful Jan 06 22:22:46 that makes me wanna look at that motherboard even more :) Jan 06 22:23:05 does a mac mini have HDMI? Jan 06 22:23:05 lol, so gonna make up your own system~? Jan 06 22:23:14 surely does? Jan 06 22:23:15 perhaps... Jan 06 22:23:39 or maybe just dvi Jan 06 22:23:48 I am reluctant, but I don't seem to find things that appeal to me.. Jan 06 22:23:59 the xbox + xbmc is cheap and sweet :) Jan 06 22:24:07 lol yup Jan 06 22:24:16 other lan players seem to be hmm.. not so well done :) Jan 06 22:24:21 heh Jan 06 22:24:26 seemingly often in the UI department Jan 06 22:24:26 i once owned a netgear one Jan 06 22:24:30 oh man - it sucked Jan 06 22:24:41 I have been ab le to resist buying one Jan 06 22:24:43 :) Jan 06 22:25:00 it was the wifi one Jan 06 22:25:05 and it was flakey as hell Jan 06 22:25:11 with a terrible ui Jan 06 22:25:25 i literally used it about three times, then sold it. and built the slug after that Jan 06 22:25:33 mm.. Jan 06 22:25:45 it is a shame it seems so haard to make it right Jan 06 22:26:19 lol Jan 06 22:26:47 there should be more open source friendly HW platforms Jan 06 22:27:00 after all it's just a processor, some memory and some buttons and shit Jan 06 22:27:25 heh - think they get a bit too frightened Jan 06 22:28:52 well.. companies could do a "hello, we put this together, now go play iwth it" Jan 06 22:29:06 I think it could pick up some momentum Jan 06 22:29:12 llike the slug community Jan 06 22:30:17 seems like things like the slug have to happen 'in spite' of big business Jan 06 22:31:06 yeah.. it's obvious Jan 06 22:31:18 but silly.. and a shame :) Jan 06 22:33:48 are you in the uk barnseenio ? Jan 06 22:34:14 yes, you? Jan 06 22:34:48 sweden Jan 06 22:35:03 aha .. the land of technology! Jan 06 22:36:37 uhh.. yeah :) Jan 06 22:37:02 how did you draw that conclusion? :) Jan 06 22:37:13 lol, err Jan 06 22:37:22 dunno . uk perception of sweden ;-) Jan 06 22:37:23 i'm curious :) Jan 06 22:37:24 ErikR: han l?ser verkligen inte idg.se ;D Jan 06 22:37:45 yeah.. a thingy i invented got some good coverage in stuff magazine :) Jan 06 22:37:49 technology, intelligent society and high taxes Jan 06 22:37:56 lol Jan 06 22:38:02 ErikR: what was that ? ;) Jan 06 22:38:07 the pacemaker Jan 06 22:38:16 riight Jan 06 22:38:18 not the heart thingy Jan 06 22:38:21 the dj thingy Jan 06 22:38:22 aha. Jan 06 22:38:24 link? Jan 06 22:38:26 url? Jan 06 22:38:31 www.pacemaker.net Jan 06 22:39:05 Neat :) Jan 06 22:39:40 yeah.. it's coming on well :) Jan 06 22:40:34 flashtastic Jan 06 22:40:42 you don't like the flash? :P Jan 06 22:40:53 heh no i dont mind Jan 06 22:41:10 however the music sounded a little irritating over the top of the mp3 im listening to! Jan 06 22:41:28 is the pacemaker a reality? Jan 06 22:41:54 and see - i was right . the land of technology! Jan 06 22:42:11 yeah.. the first batch is arriving in februari Jan 06 22:42:42 looks quite large Jan 06 22:42:44 psp size? Jan 06 22:42:51 yeah.. about that Jan 06 22:43:17 I am not working with it now.. I am one of the original inventors, but I had other engagements that I prioritized Jan 06 22:43:28 ah i see Jan 06 22:43:40 there is a bunch of talented ppl looking after the thing now Jan 06 22:43:42 :) Jan 06 22:43:50 are the disc shapes for controlling the speed/timing of the track? Jan 06 22:44:13 yeah.. the bottom one is a circular touch area Jan 06 22:44:32 and whats the anticipated retail price? Jan 06 22:44:33 which is used to adjust speed and bend Jan 06 22:45:06 you bend the single track your listening to? or to mix two tracks? Jan 06 22:45:44 actually, I don't remember and don't find it on the site :) Jan 06 22:45:51 about 400€ Jan 06 22:45:54 I think Jan 06 22:46:04 you can bend whichever you like :) Jan 06 22:46:18 hmm, too pricey for me! Jan 06 22:46:21 preferably the one in that's playing in the headphones Jan 06 22:46:46 yeah, it's a bit more than your usual mp3 player :) Jan 06 22:46:55 i meant, the touchpad isnt designed to 'cue' in one track to another? Jan 06 22:47:16 that's one of its more important uses, yes.. :P Jan 06 22:47:33 ok Jan 06 22:47:36 and.. to return to the original topic.. Jan 06 22:48:16 it seems like you can make a copy of the partition structure and original file structure and just change the stick for the drive Jan 06 22:48:33 i just booted the slug into my old system using the new stick Jan 06 22:48:45 oh ok, just a simple copy of all the files/partition to a new disk. that solves my question Jan 06 22:48:57 have you moved to ram stick now then? Jan 06 22:49:03 yeah Jan 06 22:49:07 * barnseenio claps Jan 06 22:49:11 haven't verified that everything works Jan 06 22:49:16 but it looks familiar Jan 06 22:50:02 and i guess it booted Jan 06 22:53:04 yeah.. that it did.. Jan 06 22:53:40 working on anything interesting now ErikR ? Jan 06 22:53:40 I'm going to hook up the rediculous USB entanglement now and boot with uhh.. peripherals :D Jan 06 22:54:28 actually I am a rather booring IT person in profession now :) Jan 06 22:54:34 i keep meaning to try and attach a usb hub, and have more than my single 500gb disk Jan 06 22:54:38 * barnseenio too ErikR Jan 06 22:55:06 although .. boring IT person beats breaking rocks for a living Jan 06 22:55:25 yeah.. well.. I don't think I am that boring :) Jan 06 22:55:57 but ppl who aren't fascinated by the handicraft of system development may think I'm a bit odd, I presume Jan 06 22:56:28 lol Jan 06 22:56:54 what area of IT are you in barnseenio ? Jan 06 22:58:28 well, i have worked in IT for around 12 years, so done lots of different roles. Currently assigment is developing a specific element of a stock trading system for a dutch bank, using C++ and C# Jan 06 22:59:18 cool.. Jan 06 22:59:35 I am moving to a new postion in system integration later this year Jan 06 22:59:55 I am/was doing manufacturing execution systems Jan 06 23:00:09 i see, there is a lot of integration in this current job. these banks have loads of systems already doing stuff Jan 06 23:00:13 and now.. original topic again Jan 06 23:00:24 it *didn't* work I think Jan 06 23:00:29 lol Jan 06 23:00:48 cp -R doesn't seem to maintain the user and group thingies Jan 06 23:01:02 perhaps I need to tar the stuff or something? Jan 06 23:01:10 i did some control system work a long time ago. telemetry for gas pipelines. i have dont have much manufacturing experience. Jan 06 23:01:20 cant imagine why ErikR Jan 06 23:01:24 cool Jan 06 23:01:37 well, cp is copying = creating new files.. Jan 06 23:01:52 = give them the default user & group Jan 06 23:01:54 perhaps?? :) Jan 06 23:02:14 tar is more of "make an archive of these things so I can restore them" Jan 06 23:02:20 mm indeed Jan 06 23:02:28 my wrong Jan 06 23:02:32 this stick was just blank formqatted ext3? Jan 06 23:02:37 but the basic stuff worked anyhowe Jan 06 23:02:46 well.. it had a win32 partition on it Jan 06 23:02:47 install Jan 06 23:02:47 Copy files and set attributes, copies files while setting their permission modes and, if possible, their owner and group Jan 06 23:02:49 I nuked that Jan 06 23:02:50 http://webtools.live2support.com/linux/install.php Jan 06 23:03:09 install? Jan 06 23:03:12 ? Jan 06 23:03:23 oh, used for this task? Jan 06 23:03:27 supposedly so.. Jan 06 23:03:28 * barnseenio reads Jan 06 23:03:41 `install' is similar to `cp', but allows you to control the Jan 06 23:03:41 attributes of destination files. Jan 06 23:04:02 however Jan 06 23:04:04 ahh.. Jan 06 23:04:05 cp -p Jan 06 23:04:13 very good name for that command indeed Jan 06 23:04:15 should preserve file attributes Jan 06 23:04:33 cp -p source destination.. Jan 06 23:04:33 I wish I put all the commands in a script.. :P Jan 06 23:05:27 so cp -R -p source destination would do it recursively too? Jan 06 23:05:36 I didn't copy the sys, proc and dev directories Jan 06 23:06:00 so I had a bunch of commands to copy the rest of the directories in the root Jan 06 23:06:07 is that a silly approach? Jan 06 23:07:27 are you trying to make a backup Jan 06 23:07:27 ? Jan 06 23:07:54 ErikR, trying to make a backup? Jan 06 23:08:06 moving the system from a HD to a stick Jan 06 23:08:10 DD Jan 06 23:08:11 :) Jan 06 23:08:21 dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb Jan 06 23:08:21 DD? Jan 06 23:08:33 "Dump Data" Jan 06 23:08:40 does a byte for byte copy AFAIK Jan 06 23:08:52 you could do a backup Jan 06 23:08:58 dd if=/dev/sda of=/home/backup.img Jan 06 23:09:57 :) Jan 06 23:10:22 * barnseenio should try this Jan 06 23:10:33 Reedy_Boy: if i want to attach another disk Jan 06 23:10:49 * barnseenio has only one disk with everything on atm Jan 06 23:11:06 i can stick in a usb hub, and attach existing disk to that? Jan 06 23:11:15 yeah Jan 06 23:11:30 Yeah, some firmwares work better than others Jan 06 23:11:33 I just stuck the stick into the usb hub Jan 06 23:11:35 set up the partitions Jan 06 23:11:37 ie anything that isnt unlsung/default Jan 06 23:11:43 works better with usb hubs Jan 06 23:11:44 and starte do do the silly cp -R thing Jan 06 23:11:45 ie on the 2.6 kernel Jan 06 23:11:46 gotcha Jan 06 23:11:50 :) Jan 06 23:12:04 I was disconnected Jan 06 23:12:07 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/SlugOS/HowToBackupAndRestoreSlugOSBetweenTwoMemorySticks Jan 06 23:12:09 wb ErikR_ ! Jan 06 23:12:15 Vaguely relevant Jan 06 23:12:36 * barnseenio reads Jan 06 23:13:04 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/BackupYourLinuxBox Jan 06 23:13:07 Also vaguely Jan 06 23:14:14 hmm.. did you say anything regarding the disk sizes while I was disconnected Reedy_Boy ? Jan 06 23:14:22 nope Jan 06 23:14:28 (thinking of dd) Jan 06 23:14:39 i think i'll try that backup this week Jan 06 23:14:43 perhaps a move to stick Jan 06 23:14:45 only thing i said that you may have missed, is stuff on the 2.6 kernel is better with hubs Jan 06 23:15:16 that poor disk of mine has been spinning away for two years Jan 06 23:15:40 heh# Jan 06 23:16:36 hmm Jan 06 23:16:47 I haven't had problems with the hub.. Jan 06 23:17:15 i think its more, if you have problems on unslung with a hub Jan 06 23:17:16 2.6 is better Jan 06 23:17:20 okay Jan 06 23:17:36 do yo know if it should be "cp -R -p" or "cp -Rp" ? Jan 06 23:19:59 -Rp usually Jan 06 23:20:06 I'll give that a try Jan 06 23:20:20 I found out that my mpd couldn't acccess the log file... Jan 06 23:20:33 good thing I didn't leave you thinking it worked barnseenio Jan 06 23:21:13 * Reedy_Boy thinks he'd best go to bed soon.. Jan 06 23:21:19 me too Jan 06 23:21:25 Then i can be up early to go do a site survey.. Jan 06 23:21:31 Thats going to be so much fun ^o) Jan 06 23:21:50 what's that? Jan 06 23:21:54 lol Jan 06 23:22:00 Whats what? Jan 06 23:22:01 i have to stay up to finish this datamodel Jan 06 23:22:13 I am on paternity leave :) Jan 06 23:22:25 i think Reedy_Boys wiki links look more useful ErikR_ Jan 06 23:22:26 Ooh, Congrats :) Jan 06 23:22:31 I have to go to bed to endure beiong bossed around tomorrow Jan 06 23:22:36 lol Jan 06 23:22:40 grats Jan 06 23:22:48 thanks guys Jan 06 23:22:57 i only have 2 days of that left... Jan 06 23:22:59 My dad took holiday rather than paternity, as you dont get paid for paternity in the uk.. Jan 06 23:23:04 or at least, its not law that you are Jan 06 23:23:08 than we start stabilizing for daycare release Jan 06 23:23:33 the beta testing has been quite okay Jan 06 23:23:38 no show stoppers so far Jan 06 23:23:50 ErikR, you asked "whats that" Jan 06 23:23:56 what were you referring to? Jan 06 23:24:05 site survey :) Jan 06 23:24:08 ah Jan 06 23:24:10 errm Jan 06 23:24:34 Its an IT one, basically, im going somewhere with my boss, to look what equipments there, and work out what they need Jan 06 23:25:14 ah.. wow.. sounds nice Jan 06 23:25:21 lol Jan 06 23:25:24 not overly Jan 06 23:25:27 hehe Jan 06 23:25:27 lol Jan 06 23:25:30 get a trip out to scarborough Jan 06 23:25:36 which i cant decide if its a good thing Jan 06 23:25:37 hmm Jan 06 23:25:49 in january Jan 06 23:25:51 what do you think will be the largest surprise of tomorrow then? Jan 06 23:25:53 take a coat Jan 06 23:25:59 yeah Jan 06 23:26:04 probably Jan 06 23:26:10 but we're indoors AFAIK# Jan 06 23:26:22 hehe Jan 06 23:26:55 i was going to go and do it myself, but my boss decided she wants to go.. Jan 06 23:27:06 No doubt i'll end up doing most of hte latter work when ive got free time from uni Jan 06 23:27:07 cool :) Jan 06 23:27:40 what are you taking at uni? Jan 06 23:28:03 Computer Software Development Jan 06 23:28:03 :) Jan 06 23:28:13 ahh.. makes a bit of sense Jan 06 23:28:14 a MEng (Masters of Engineering) Jan 06 23:28:23 cool.. Jan 06 23:28:30 I thought it was all MSc? Jan 06 23:28:59 nope.. it all depends on the different uni's Jan 06 23:29:05 okay Jan 06 23:29:08 cool Jan 06 23:29:10 You can do BSc/MSc Jan 06 23:29:14 but some have like MComp.. Jan 06 23:29:21 uh? Jan 06 23:29:23 I think uni's literalyl just do what the hell they want Jan 06 23:29:27 sounds nasty Jan 06 23:29:32 MComp - Master of Computing Jan 06 23:29:34 or something Jan 06 23:29:38 MWa Jan 06 23:29:41 :) Jan 06 23:29:47 ? Jan 06 23:29:51 never mind Jan 06 23:30:15 lol Jan 06 23:30:25 MWa**ing Jan 06 23:30:35 nite guys Jan 06 23:30:41 sleep tight Jan 06 23:30:46 OH Jan 06 23:30:49 lmfao Jan 06 23:32:12 That'd be interesting one... Jan 06 23:38:48 i screwed something up Jan 06 23:40:12 good night all **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 07 02:59:57 2008