**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 08 02:59:56 2008 Jan 08 03:17:48 what does umount_flash do? Jan 08 04:15:15 mwester, Jan 08 04:15:17 minimo:~# uname -a Jan 08 04:15:17 Linux minimo 2.6.18-5-ixp4xx #1 Sun Dec 23 05:17:39 UTC 2007 armv5tel GNU/Linux Jan 08 04:15:24 mwester, Thanks you! Jan 08 06:20:38 hi rwhitby Jan 08 09:52:03 yo Jan 08 10:09:52 hi Jan 08 14:35:10 I know I asked this before, but, what's the command to keep the Status/Ready led green under Debian? Jan 08 17:34:34 hey guys Jan 08 17:35:51 daveyboy_, and whats todays question? ;) :P Jan 08 17:36:10 ha :P Jan 08 17:36:17 mwester, did anyone poke you regarding martins response to the nslu2 using DHCP on the default ip? Jan 08 17:36:19 ill let u know if te wiki cant help :) Jan 08 17:36:44 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/RepairSamba Jan 08 17:53:36 hi.. i just installed debian on my NSLU2.. during install i set the same pass for root and user... now, i can only login as user.. root apparently doesn't have the password i specified at install time Jan 08 17:58:11 nevermind my last message.. :-) Jan 08 18:23:22 anyone tried r76 firmware? Jan 08 18:23:45 linksys? Jan 08 18:23:51 its stil in beta aint it? Jan 08 18:24:13 most people arent on stock, hence why they're here ;) Jan 08 18:26:40 yea i know. its just i got to update back to stock as samba is having nightmare Jan 08 18:27:38 according to one of the posts, you can use web interface from unslung 6.8 to update to this firmware.....seems doubtfull, what u think? Jan 08 18:28:25 i thought you couldnt, but then again, im sure ive done it myself :/ Jan 08 18:28:48 The only firmware that has a web-based upgrade is the original Linksys firmware. Jan 08 18:28:52 not sure weather to try r to just do it proper way with upslung Jan 08 18:29:33 Reedy_Boy: No, I didn't see any of the emails; I'm not on any of the debian lists (I don't do debian ;) Jan 08 18:29:39 Heh Jan 08 18:29:49 daveyboy_: You can try, it'll fail though. Jan 08 18:30:01 if it fails will it brick? Jan 08 18:30:21 No Jan 08 18:30:29 I think it just doesnt flash it Jan 08 18:30:36 mwester, if rod had been active - http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2008/01/msg00038.html Jan 08 18:30:38 daveyboy_: The 'upgrade' web page screen is present, but there's no logic or code behind it that does anything -- it won't brick because it won't even touch the flash or even download the firmware. Jan 08 18:30:58 Martins reply - http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2008/01/msg00041.html Jan 08 18:31:09 Basically, how you experience it, is how its supposed to be Jan 08 18:31:56 fair play mwester. linux boot disk it is Jan 08 18:32:07 daveyboy_, theres a windows tool.. Jan 08 18:32:50 Its a shame uplsug2 wont work in cygwin Jan 08 18:33:20 i tried the win tool, but it didnt detect slug for some reason. but i know its tehre and working fine Jan 08 18:33:53 well apart from samba Jan 08 18:34:09 lol Jan 08 18:34:18 you *did* put it upgrade mode first? Jan 08 18:34:47 i thought i did. will check again. want linux boot disk anyway. help me learn Jan 08 18:35:05 remember to open firwall for the win tool Jan 08 18:35:06 lol Jan 08 18:35:29 ha yea Jan 08 18:36:07 I think ubuntu is the simplest for upslug - boot live cd, sudo apt-get install uplsug2 Jan 08 19:05:53 * Reedy_Boy is going to start making his debian NSLU2 do something when he gets back - Print server Jan 08 19:06:38 CUPS and/or Samba? Jan 08 19:12:46 drink a cup of tea, is better than dancing samba ;) Jan 08 19:26:10 SyNko, is that truth or just a saying ;) Jan 08 19:28:17 Presumably i need samba though for printing from windows? Jan 08 19:37:41 * Reedy_Boy will use his debian NSLU2.. then doesnt have hte faff of trying to upgrade samba on the unslung one Jan 08 19:44:19 Reedy_Boy: without jokes, all depends on what you need? they are tools not runners in a campionship.. k? Jan 08 19:44:48 Yeah, but im a bit stuck as i need to print from windows, so i'll need samba Jan 08 19:45:07 Reedy_Boy: i remember cups is for printers instead samba for sharing and exist infact the samba cups Jan 08 19:45:26 samba does file and print sharing to windows Jan 08 19:46:57 haha mwester, nice post ;) Jan 08 20:10:06 Reedy_Boy: I do cups on SlugOS for printing from Windows and Linux. No Samba necessary. Jan 08 20:10:25 That sounds useful Jan 08 20:10:37 thanks :) Jan 08 20:11:43 try and do it that way then if i can.. although it would probably end up with samba on it later for windows file sharing Jan 08 20:40:35 Bus 003 Device 004: ID 04e8:3268 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd Jan 08 20:40:49 Thats a start (recognised by debian nslu2 via a usb hub) Jan 08 20:46:14 wants to install quite a few packages Jan 08 20:47:28 mwester, ooh, using IPP? Jan 08 21:04:38 yepper Jan 08 21:06:03 Print driver is installed on the window boxen, the little SlugOS box just manages the queue. Note that you need swap, and lotsa space for a print server (the file being sent to print can be very very big). Jan 08 21:06:56 ya :) Jan 08 21:16:04 Haha Jan 08 21:16:09 This may be easier than expected.. Jan 08 21:16:10 "Samsung ML-1610 (Samsung ML-1610 USB #1) " Jan 08 21:16:11 its found it Jan 08 21:16:37 had to turn off SSL, but that wasnt major Jan 08 21:18:30 Printer Samsung_ML-1610_USB_1 has been added successfully. Jan 08 21:40:33 anyone here used the debian easy installer? Jan 08 21:44:52 aye.. Jan 08 22:00:43 any reason why the installer crashes while formatting the partition? Jan 08 22:01:31 Too large a partition being formated AFAIK Jan 08 22:01:37 it runs out of memory and crashes Jan 08 22:05:40 even if the swap is 256? Jan 08 22:06:26 what would be a safe format size Jan 08 22:08:54 its physical memory... as its not using the swap yet Jan 08 22:08:58 what you trying to format Jan 08 22:09:15 mwester, ive got so far... but im now faffing with "/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertosamsungspl failed" Jan 08 22:10:27 reedy_boy:" i have a 2gb stick and im formatting 1.7gb to ext3 (/) and the rest, just under 300mb to be swap, it crashes on the 1.7gb Jan 08 22:11:03 hmm Jan 08 22:11:09 i did an 8gb thing fine.. Jan 08 22:15:19 umm wat modukes did you choose Jan 08 22:15:24 *modules Jan 08 22:17:02 the ones martins guide said to.. Jan 08 22:19:17 cuz a week ago there were 5 to select and now theyre are only 3? Jan 08 22:19:36 i only ever remember 3 IIRC Jan 08 22:21:59 ok ill try again with 1.5gb instead mabe i unno Jan 08 22:22:11 i remember i did it 3 times successfully before and now its not working :S Jan 08 22:49:26 mwester, should the DeviceURI be usb://Samsung/ML-1610 Jan 08 22:49:26 or should it really be /dev/usblp0 or similar Jan 08 22:54:08 cat test.txt > /dev/usb/lp0 Jan 08 22:54:13 made the printer make some noise Jan 08 22:54:50 but not print.. Jan 08 22:55:35 You really can't run the filter on the NSLU2 Jan 08 22:57:07 hmm, it was just an error that it was complaining about after setting the printer up via the cups interface and uploading the PPD Jan 08 23:03:21 hmm Jan 08 23:03:30 using the "splix" drivers.. It says its processing... Jan 08 23:03:47 and its using cputime Jan 08 23:24:06 Quick question; does anyone happen to know the default ssh username and password for angstrom? Jan 08 23:24:48 Random_Q: root, no password. Jan 08 23:27:38 Tried that; it doesn't appear to be blank. Jan 08 23:58:33 I've posted on nslu2-general mailing list... Someone hopefully may have done it successfully already Jan 09 00:57:19 may I ask a newbie-ish question re starting up? Jan 09 00:57:38 go ahead Jan 09 00:58:29 ok.. I (evidently) successfully flashed my slug with slugosbe-4.8-beta-nslu2 with ugutil. Jan 09 00:58:40 it seems to have succedssfully booted Jan 09 00:58:47 k Jan 09 00:59:16 however, I can niether ping not ssh to 192.168.1.77 Jan 09 00:59:29 what is the IP of your computer Jan 09 00:59:47 my xp pc? Jan 09 00:59:49 yes Jan 09 01:00:19 192.168.1.3 Jan 09 01:00:23 okay Jan 09 01:00:35 press and hold the reset button on the slug for 10 seconds Jan 09 01:01:03 done & released Jan 09 01:01:12 try pinging it now Jan 09 01:01:31 timed out Jan 09 01:01:46 is the ethernet light on/flashing on the slug Jan 09 01:01:50 could it be a xp firewall issue? Jan 09 01:02:01 duh.. it's off Jan 09 01:02:05 justa sec Jan 09 01:02:39 don't tell me you didn't plug in the ethernet cable into it Jan 09 01:02:47 I pushes the power instead of the reset button... I'll hafta turn in my genius card Jan 09 01:02:56 haha Jan 09 01:03:08 k, wait for it to beep Jan 09 01:03:16 then press and hold the reset again for ten seconds Jan 09 01:05:16 hmmm.. the instant I insert a paperclip, the unit powers off Jan 09 01:05:42 hmm, might be the setting for that firmware Jan 09 01:05:52 is this a new slug? Jan 09 01:05:57 or a previous owned one Jan 09 01:06:12 nope.. it's been on my shelf fpr a couple of years Jan 09 01:06:13 and also, is the ethernet light on Jan 09 01:06:23 yes Jan 09 01:06:26 green Jan 09 01:06:45 hmm, might have to do it in redboot then Jan 09 01:07:02 I check the ip w/ the linksys web interface before I started and it was as abvove Jan 09 01:07:33 ok, paperclip & power until red flash? Jan 09 01:07:35 okay Jan 09 01:07:37 turn off the slug Jan 09 01:07:57 it's shutting down Jan 09 01:07:59 off Jan 09 01:08:00 btw, is the slug next to your PC? Jan 09 01:08:04 yes Jan 09 01:08:08 good Jan 09 01:08:10 on the floor! Jan 09 01:08:24 short cat5, darnit Jan 09 01:08:52 okay Jan 09 01:08:57 open up two cmds in XP Jan 09 01:09:20 in both of them type this: ping -t -w 1 192.168.0.1 Jan 09 01:09:22 ok Jan 09 01:09:47 open up another cmd window Jan 09 01:09:55 make sure you can see all three cmd windows Jan 09 01:10:17 in the 3rd type this: telnet 192.168.0.1 9000 ...but do not press enter Jan 09 01:10:40 tell me when you are caught up Jan 09 01:11:18 ok, windows 1 & two I pressed enter and am seeing timeouts Jan 09 01:11:22 good Jan 09 01:11:25 leave them going Jan 09 01:11:35 now, go to control panel Jan 09 01:11:37 network connection Jan 09 01:11:49 right click on your network connection and go to properties Jan 09 01:11:59 select TCP/IP from the list and hit properties Jan 09 01:12:15 click advanced Jan 09 01:12:24 in IP addresses Jan 09 01:12:26 click add Jan 09 01:12:34 add the IP: 192.168.0.2 Jan 09 01:12:39 click ok and close all that out Jan 09 01:12:54 then get all three cmd windows visable Jan 09 01:13:01 two should be timing out a bunch of lines Jan 09 01:13:06 fix the gateway and dns while you're there Jan 09 01:13:21 it's using dhcp, I shold override this? Jan 09 01:13:31 yea, you will have to Jan 09 01:13:35 oh, sorry - you were talking about windows, not the slug. Jan 09 01:13:38 you have to have a 192.168.0.x address Jan 09 01:14:29 got it? Jan 09 01:14:39 * rwhitby notes that upslug2 and hardware reset button upgrade mode doesn't care what IP address you have, cause it's all done with non-standard ethernet packets, not IP packets Jan 09 01:14:58 if he doesn't need to do this rwhitby, then stop me Jan 09 01:15:58 have you got the IP added chipk? Jan 09 01:16:01 hello again.. changing from dhcp to a fixed ip.. I didn't put in a gateway and it knocked me off the net Jan 09 01:16:09 yea Jan 09 01:16:25 so do you have a 192.168.0.x address on the PC now? Jan 09 01:16:32 this is chipk... I guess I got a ghost here Jan 09 01:16:37 yea Jan 09 01:16:49 DrJ, chipk: hardware reset button upgrade mode, upslug linksys firmware, wait for the beep, hold in the reset button for 30 seconds, release and wait for 30 seconds. reboot the slug. hardware reset button upgrade mode again, install whatever firmware you want. Jan 09 01:17:07 he's already got the firmware installed rwhitby Jan 09 01:17:19 he needs to set the IP Jan 09 01:17:21 no, I reverted to dhcp to get back on, I am going to do an ipconfig & see what my gateway is.. stnad bye Jan 09 01:17:33 255.255.255.0 Jan 09 01:18:32 DrJ: what I gave above is the canonical, guaranteed to work in any situation, way to reinitialise a slug and get a known address on it. Jan 09 01:18:39 what addy did you say as my pc ipaddress? Jan 09 01:19:03 you need to go static 192.168.2.3 then add the IP 192.168.0.2 Jan 09 01:19:13 DrJ: and that method requires no changes to the PC networking. Jan 09 01:19:47 but feel free to continue with your method, and I'll just watch :-) Jan 09 01:19:50 yea, but isn't he past that point Jan 09 01:20:07 ok... if I disappear.. I'll be back... Jan 09 01:20:41 just tell us when you have it Jan 09 01:21:05 * DrJ doesn't see what you are saying rwhitby Jan 09 01:21:06 DrJ: I never try and debug someone else's problem from an unknown starting point. Jan 09 01:21:23 I always put them into a known starting point and go from there. Jan 09 01:22:13 I'm assuming you're trying to get him to telnet into Redboot, which is not the way we do things any more. you never need to telnet into redboot to do anything on a slug any more. Jan 09 01:22:40 k, so then how do we reset the IP of his slug without redboot Jan 09 01:23:02 without removing the firmware he already has installed Jan 09 01:23:03 using the method that I outlined above Jan 09 01:23:17 if he's just installed it, then reinstalling is trivial Jan 09 01:23:30 so without reinstalling, right now the only way is redboot Jan 09 01:23:45 (and can be done much faster than trying to explain to someone how to modify network settings and telnet into redboot) Jan 09 01:23:53 true Jan 09 01:24:20 okay, when he comes back just explain that to him Jan 09 01:24:35 he's obviously not understanding the network setting things...although he should learn them Jan 09 01:24:45 if he had stuff in the flash that he wanted to keep, it would be a different story, and worth the effort to telnet into redboot to reset sysconf Jan 09 01:25:41 by the way Jan 09 01:26:07 right now I'm thinking of reinstallign firmware on my slug...I've had unslung...what's better debian or slugos Jan 09 01:26:30 or are they actually the same thing Jan 09 01:26:31 hmm Jan 09 01:26:36 neither. Jan 09 01:27:10 use the criteria on http://www.slug-firmware.net/ to make your own choice. each of the five different firmware types are perfectly suited for the package base they are targetting Jan 09 01:27:22 you just need to work out which package base is the one you need. Jan 09 01:28:03 webserver, fileserver, and print server Jan 09 01:28:09 is basically what I use mine for Jan 09 01:28:12 ok... me again Jan 09 01:28:22 okay Guest8349 Jan 09 01:28:29 unless you figured out the IP setting stuff Jan 09 01:28:42 rwhitby is going to walk you through another easier to explain way I was unaware of Jan 09 01:28:56 DrJ, chipk: hardware reset button upgrade mode, upslug linksys firmware, wait for the beep, hold in the reset button for 30 seconds, release and wait for 30 seconds. reboot the slug. hardware reset button upgrade mode again, install whatever firmware you want. Jan 09 01:29:01 ok... I had to use the same addy as my dhcp Jan 09 01:29:24 stand by, I want to go back to dhcp (if that's ok) Jan 09 01:29:29 yea Jan 09 01:29:39 RIGHT back! Jan 09 01:29:43 actually, before installing the final firmware, get into linksys firmware and set the network settings on the slug Jan 09 01:29:54 totally appreciate your patience Jan 09 01:30:20 will the linksys web interface still see it?? Jan 09 01:30:32 I don't think you have that anymore Jan 09 01:31:03 I concur.. I did not what the linksys had as the ip Jan 09 01:31:14 did NOTE that is Jan 09 01:31:27 and it is the 77.1 default Jan 09 01:31:36 just go back to dhcp then come back, rwhitby will get you going Jan 09 01:31:40 ok, resetting to dhcp Jan 09 01:33:22 alrighty then! Jan 09 01:33:45 back to dhcp Jan 09 01:33:53 booting slug Jan 09 01:33:55 chipk: what do you want the final IP address of the slug to be? Jan 09 01:34:02 static or dhcp? Jan 09 01:34:19 why would anyone not want it static Jan 09 01:34:32 idk, just me Jan 09 01:34:36 no qulaified opinion... Jan 09 01:34:43 as long as I can find it! Jan 09 01:34:51 what IP address range is your router on? Jan 09 01:35:18 gotta look Jan 09 01:35:26 192.168.1.x Jan 09 01:35:32 you already told me that chipk Jan 09 01:36:29 ok Jan 09 01:36:38 and which firmware do you want to install finally? Jan 09 01:38:01 I downloaded slugosbe-4.8-beta-nslu2, but happy to hear recommendation... My inital intent is a printer server and some playing with slug Jan 09 01:38:56 I (apparently) successfully flashed it with ugutil Jan 09 01:39:25 and it SEEMS to boot up according to the flashing lights Jan 09 01:39:38 but no ssh or ping Jan 09 01:40:00 ethernet light is on Jan 09 01:40:26 try "ping 192.168.1.255" Jan 09 01:40:30 no disk drive connected Jan 09 01:40:48 this sends broadcast on LAN Jan 09 01:40:55 timeout Jan 09 01:41:24 not even the router is responding? Jan 09 01:41:38 your XP pc has network connection problem then Jan 09 01:41:48 that's insteresting... I barely recall this stuff... but no response from router Jan 09 01:41:49 maybe you should turn off XP firewall Jan 09 01:41:57 doing that... Jan 09 01:44:35 it's off (uh oh!) Jan 09 01:44:59 chipk, windows firewall is useless anyway Jan 09 01:45:10 hi all Jan 09 01:45:16 I know.... Jan 09 01:45:43 but... still no response on either broadcat ping or 1.77 Jan 09 01:45:49 a router gives you the same amount of coverage Jan 09 01:47:00 can you at least "ping 192.168.1.1" (assuming that's the IP address of your router) Jan 09 01:47:35 just tried that.. and it responded Jan 09 01:49:11 when I went into flash mode and fired up ugutil it found it (after initial flash) and reported install as current Jan 09 01:49:26 chipk: does your router report dhcp leases? Jan 09 01:52:01 ick.. I gotta got get the postit with the secret password from the other room... Jan 09 01:54:06 PRETY HIGH SECUTIRY HERE.. AT LEAST THE PASSWORD ISN'T ADMIN Jan 09 01:54:19 the only device seen is my pc Jan 09 01:54:30 which is a big clue Jan 09 01:54:43 if they have physical access to the postit note in your house, then they own every machine on your network anyway Jan 09 01:55:15 my spouse as full physical access.... Jan 09 01:55:28 I am going to check the lights on the router. Jan 09 01:55:49 however, the ethernet light on the slug IS lit Jan 09 01:58:21 I have connectivity, according toi the lights... Jan 09 02:00:47 ok... clue Jan 09 02:01:50 the router is enabled as a dhcp server with a range of 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.51 Jan 09 02:02:10 I'll increase the range... this ALMOST makes sense Jan 09 02:02:40 that range shouldn't matter Jan 09 02:03:45 right... and the error was 'only 50 addresses allowed in pool' Jan 09 02:04:40 * mwester is rethinking his original assumption: that having the slug "beep" it's IP address in morse code after it DHCP's would be more difficult for people to decode than it would be worth... Jan 09 02:05:13 I am going to reset/reboot and launch the ugutil to make sure IT sees the slug!!! Jan 09 02:07:18 and it reports a current version of 2363 Jan 09 02:07:53 the devices list 000f667bf76e Jan 09 02:08:09 so IT sees the slug Jan 09 02:08:41 ok.. any special step to get out of flash mode? Jan 09 02:09:31 I know I asked this before, but, what's the command to keep the Status/Ready led green under Debian? (leds off something) Jan 09 02:09:50 chipk: just power cycle Jan 09 02:10:26 I pull plug, the power switch no response Jan 09 02:10:29 beep Jan 09 02:11:06 beep Jan 09 02:11:06 beep Jan 09 02:11:07 beep Jan 09 02:11:08 chipk: at this stage, the easiest thing is to reflash linksys firmware, do the 30 second reset button trick to reset the network settings, then double check the network settings (and change it to 192.168.1.4 or something) and then make sure you can see it on that new address, then reflash slugos Jan 09 02:11:27 ok, those numbers are the mac addy, I see on the case Jan 09 02:12:45 ok, I shall do that. I am going to log outa here, I appreciate everyone assistance with my puzzler. I am thinking that I may have a pretty early model. I will upgrade the firmware Jan 09 02:12:54 bye & thanks! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 09 02:59:58 2008