**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 13 02:59:57 2008 Jan 13 03:06:39 kizoku: make that sucker work! Jan 13 03:17:38 It is ;) Jan 13 03:17:58 Three 400gig hds Jan 13 03:18:40 Right now its serving two music streams through samba, running a backup routine and running irssi as a proxy with two clients connected. Jan 13 03:18:53 Im impresst it hasnt melted yet. Jan 13 03:46:50 nice Jan 13 04:03:03 :D http://minimo.0x29.com.ve:8080/ Jan 13 06:24:23 slug is now officially online in the car =) Jan 13 06:27:23 cool Jan 13 06:27:32 quite Jan 13 06:28:10 had to do laundry today. was at the laundromat using my laptop, online via the wireless access point in the car. linksys wrt54gc connected to the slug. slug connected to cell phone Jan 13 06:28:31 of course i could have just taken the cell phone in and plugged it into the laptop but that wouldn't be geeky enough Jan 13 06:29:25 got a usb cable in the storage compartment in my center armrest. pop the cellphone in there on the cable, and the hotplug script for it starts pppd in demand dial mode, pretty sweet Jan 13 06:30:08 was even able to stream music from my home machine on my jailbroken ipod touch while driving on the highway Jan 13 06:42:38 connected to the cell phone? Jan 13 06:42:46 what do those two do together? Jan 13 06:42:56 what purpose do those two have that is Jan 13 06:49:22 drj: eh? the cell phone connects to the slug, either by usb or by bluetooth via a usb bluetooth dongle Jan 13 06:49:37 and then t he slug runs pppd in demand dial mode. i put my cell phone in usb modem mode Jan 13 06:49:43 and thus the slug gets online Jan 13 06:49:58 it's verizon EV-DO so it's pretty quick for a mobile device Jan 13 06:50:19 i can stream music off the internet to my jailbroken ipod touch and such while driving on the highway.. pretty cool Jan 13 06:50:41 drj, did you get your stuff working? or g o back to unslung? Jan 13 06:51:04 I gave up Jan 13 06:51:08 for a while Jan 13 06:51:09 hehe Jan 13 06:51:15 will probably tackle it again tomorrow Jan 13 06:51:17 is it still on openslug? Jan 13 06:51:19 yes Jan 13 06:51:23 cool Jan 13 06:51:27 altho openwrt is cooler ;) Jan 13 06:51:37 i just like openwrt because it's so compact due to uClibc Jan 13 06:51:47 well since I have a hard drive Jan 13 06:51:56 well i have a flash drive on mine Jan 13 06:51:59 that really doesn't affect me Jan 13 06:52:04 but i want it to be able to perform its primary functions without that Jan 13 06:52:17 mine couldn't Jan 13 06:52:20 file server Jan 13 06:52:21 so i have optware on the flash drive, so /opt is on that, and it truly is just the optional stuff Jan 13 06:52:23 yeah Jan 13 06:52:24 web server Jan 13 06:52:25 print server Jan 13 06:52:26 mine is a car computer Jan 13 06:52:28 have to have hd Jan 13 06:52:34 no hard drive.. Jan 13 06:52:40 for power consumption reasons Jan 13 06:52:58 it stays booted when the car is parked.. hard drive would be too much battery drain Jan 13 06:54:05 * DrJ has a car computer too Jan 13 06:54:08 my gps unit Jan 13 06:54:11 :) Jan 13 06:54:15 yeah, i've got a tomtom Jan 13 06:54:18 they run linux too Jan 13 06:54:25 mine is a magellan Jan 13 06:54:30 it runs win ce Jan 13 06:54:33 my next project is interfacing the tomtom to the slug Jan 13 06:54:38 :) Jan 13 06:54:41 so then i can have it log everywhere i go Jan 13 06:54:54 i've always wanted to do that, so i could look at a plot on a map of where i've driven Jan 13 06:55:05 so, the slug will cache all the gps coords and sync them whenever it goes online Jan 13 06:55:20 yea that'd be cool Jan 13 06:55:25 have it track your speed too Jan 13 06:55:28 yep will do Jan 13 06:55:42 i am going to hook it up to my car's odbii port too Jan 13 06:55:45 and use freediag Jan 13 06:55:53 so i can log fuel economy to a mysql database and shit Jan 13 06:55:56 too geeky heh Jan 13 06:56:18 i don't mind saying, "too geeky." is the wpa passphrase for the access point in my car :) Jan 13 06:56:27 :) Jan 13 06:56:30 so if you're in central new jersey and you see a black audi a4 with red sox shit on it Jan 13 06:56:41 we are done talking Jan 13 06:56:42 try establishing a wireless connection w/ that passphrase Jan 13 06:56:43 lol Jan 13 06:56:48 oh, yanks fan? Jan 13 06:56:51 no Jan 13 06:56:53 mets? Jan 13 06:56:55 Cubs Jan 13 06:56:57 ah Jan 13 06:57:02 so what do you have against the sox then? Jan 13 06:57:02 * DrJ lives in Indiana Jan 13 06:57:05 just jealousy? hehe Jan 13 06:57:11 they won the ws Jan 13 06:57:15 ah i grew up in RI but now live in NJ in yankees turf hehe Jan 13 06:57:23 they won it again too =P Jan 13 06:57:27 i went to ws game 1 this year.. hell yeah Jan 13 06:57:28 brb bio Jan 13 06:57:46 * DrJ would kill to see the Cubs get one Jan 13 06:58:27 i know the feeling man Jan 13 06:58:32 i felt the same til 04 Jan 13 06:58:37 you should have seen me in 04... Jan 13 06:58:42 :) Jan 13 06:58:45 i became a fan in 86... which was a heartbreak year Jan 13 06:58:49 flipped out in 04 when they won heh Jan 13 06:59:00 I because a cubs fan in 98 Jan 13 06:59:03 was riding in the back of my friend's car singing sox songs and high fiving people (even cops) out the window Jan 13 06:59:04 I was 12 then Jan 13 06:59:09 *became Jan 13 06:59:10 yeah i was 10 Jan 13 06:59:32 so, i installed an app on the jailbroken ipod to update my podcasts Jan 13 06:59:42 awesome for road trips.. i get bored i can update my podcasts Jan 13 06:59:47 dl new episodes Jan 13 07:00:02 iphone tries to send the packet to the internet, slug demand dials via cell phone Jan 13 07:00:04 too cool Jan 13 07:00:14 you should subscribe to cubscast.com Jan 13 07:00:16 :) Jan 13 07:00:18 basically i get the internet benefits of the iphone, with the speed of EVDO Jan 13 07:00:23 great podcast for the cubs Jan 13 07:00:30 1 episode per week during off season Jan 13 07:00:34 3 per week during season Jan 13 07:01:56 hehe Jan 13 07:02:03 i'll stick to my sox podcasts Jan 13 07:02:12 also i <3 xm 175 Jan 13 07:02:21 xm radio 24x7x365 baseball talk station Jan 13 07:02:27 we don't have satillite radio Jan 13 07:02:32 but being of new england blood i love WEEI sports radio Jan 13 07:02:32 will probably get it this year though Jan 13 07:02:37 now.. they have an online stream Jan 13 07:02:54 so.. now thanks to my jailbroken ipod, my slug, and my cell phone.. i can once again listen to WEEI in my car on the way to work Jan 13 07:02:56 by streaming it =) Jan 13 07:03:03 even tho i am in NJ Jan 13 07:03:24 * DrJ can pick up the cubs radio broadcasts Jan 13 07:03:37 off the AM channel Jan 13 07:03:54 i can get sox games on the radio on the hartford station,. it is really strong Jan 13 07:03:55 comes in clear unless its stormy or something Jan 13 07:04:04 but that's only the games, not the talk shows Jan 13 07:04:16 now i can listen to WEEI anywhere that has verizon coverage Jan 13 07:05:58 you could've always got the gameday audio before Jan 13 07:06:08 its like $15 / year Jan 13 07:08:51 why? Jan 13 07:08:54 that's only for games Jan 13 07:08:56 i get those on XM Jan 13 07:09:01 oh Jan 13 07:15:05 just went out to the car Jan 13 07:15:11 slug has been powered on for 6 hours Jan 13 07:15:16 battery voltage only dropped .2 volt Jan 13 07:15:17 nice Jan 13 07:15:32 well .216 Jan 13 07:15:54 and that's the slug and a linksys wrt54gc wireless router Jan 13 07:16:15 oh, if you started your car once a week it probably wouldn't die Jan 13 07:16:18 they draw .76 amp between them when idle =) Jan 13 07:16:24 well you have to drive a bit Jan 13 07:16:33 i ordered a solar panel Jan 13 07:16:42 to trickle charge the battery to offset the slug Jan 13 07:17:06 it won't make up for all the power the slug uses.. but between that and regular usage of the car i should be fine to have the slug and wrt54gc powered on 24x7 Jan 13 07:17:30 the wrt54gc is a wireless router and 10/100 ethernet switch that is even smaller than the slug Jan 13 07:17:50 i ordered it because it was cheaper than getting a usb 802.11 adapter.. $30.. had no idea it would be so small. perfect Jan 13 07:17:52 do you have one of those USB sound cards for it? Jan 13 07:17:56 well Jan 13 07:17:57 so it can make soudns Jan 13 07:18:05 i do have a vonage "v-phone" Jan 13 07:18:13 altho i ditched the vonage service Jan 13 07:18:20 it's their usb soft phone Jan 13 07:18:38 all it really is is a usb flash drive with soft phone software installed, but it also has an onboard usb sound card Jan 13 07:18:55 you plug the headset into the flash drive and stick it in your comp, normally.. but i can use it as a sound card Jan 13 07:18:55 I have one Jan 13 07:18:57 got it from ebay Jan 13 07:19:01 wouldn't work with unslung Jan 13 07:19:08 will work with this slugos though Jan 13 07:19:11 yeah, that's why i love openslug Jan 13 07:19:13 so eventually I shall find that Jan 13 07:19:14 it uses a 2.6 kenel Jan 13 07:19:14 and use it Jan 13 07:19:16 kernel Jan 13 07:19:28 and the entire openslug install, with web interface even, only took 1 meg of internal flash Jan 13 07:19:41 the whole carputer setup takes half the internal flash Jan 13 10:11:39 If anyone wanne know, you can use a WD My Book Pro II with the Nslu2 if you use debian Jan 13 11:20:52 hey guys. bit of problem with rtorrent, een getting it set up to watch folder for torrents. all was working well.but when i run command from ssh, it just seems to hang...any way of working out whats going on? Jan 13 12:04:32 guys. need help settign up new account so i dont have to log into ssh as root (dont wanna screw it up, and need diff account for rtorrent permisions of downloads) Jan 13 13:07:49 daveyboy_: adduser username Jan 13 13:09:31 got you. cheers Jan 13 13:10:01 will do it in bit. justs et up rtorrent on unslung.. picks up torrents that firefox automatuicaly saves in folder...woop woop :D Jan 13 13:51:31 Any one knows how I can make the USB disk spindown? Jan 13 13:51:37 hdparm doesnt work Jan 13 13:53:55 OS? Jan 13 13:54:41 debian Jan 13 16:57:57 anyone here got ntorrent to work as gui for rtorrent Jan 13 16:57:58 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RtorrentWithRemoteGUI Jan 13 17:15:29 guys, need to add user via ssh.... adduser or useradd dont work...any ideas? Jan 13 17:20:20 vi /etc/passwd Jan 13 17:22:00 read that unslung has pw in several places.... and that can be ball ache to change them all Jan 13 17:28:11 the passwords are encripted in that file yea? but format is user:encripted file ? Jan 13 17:29:30 daveyboy_, thats where unslung has problems/limitations ;) Jan 13 18:07:34 the mpd pkg for openslug doesn't install properly, keep on getting this: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/mpd: file does not exist Jan 13 18:47:07 daveyboy_: install debian Jan 13 19:09:52 Well if you want to add a user that the linksys stuff knows about, then add it through the web interface? Jan 13 19:10:33 i was thinking the same Jan 13 19:19:09 when i only have my root flash plugged into my nslu with openslug it boots to it, but when i have a 2nd hd and my root flash plugged in, it doesn't boot Jan 13 19:59:54 hey guys. sorry was busy.... i tried opening up passwd file, and using the encripted password from root as another users pass, but no luck. added user via web interface but that doesnt help me for ssh. heard i shouldnt be logging in as root? Jan 13 20:00:57 daveyboy_, technically, it isnt good practise Jan 13 20:01:05 however, thats only on proper distributions and such... Jan 13 20:02:39 Well if you add a user through the web interface, you need to edit /etc/passwd to add a proper shell for the user Jan 13 20:02:42 afaik Jan 13 20:03:19 right.... ok rtorrent keeps downloading files as root file permisions. need to stop this, or access folder from xp with root access Jan 13 20:03:49 probably cause rtorrent was run as root? Jan 13 20:04:38 yup Jan 13 20:04:45 how do i not ru as root? Jan 13 20:04:57 login as another user Jan 13 20:05:09 ;) Jan 13 20:05:12 hence back to user/pass prob :P Jan 13 20:05:52 sudo -u username program Jan 13 20:06:01 Then they wouldnt necesserily have to be logged in Jan 13 20:07:13 k ill install sudo Jan 13 20:09:38 humm, does ~/. relate to user folder? as now rtorrent cant find confi file i created 9presumably for root) Jan 13 20:12:05 ~ is home Jan 13 20:12:18 you should be able to symlink it.. Jan 13 20:15:01 (the conf) Jan 13 20:21:30 right... half way there. if i used sudo -u dave rtorrent where would rtorrent be looking for config file? Jan 13 20:23:29 presumably, where-ever the config for dave would be Jan 13 21:49:17 slug ran in the car overnight with minimal battery drain =) Jan 13 21:54:53 teletype, sounds good :) Jan 13 21:55:35 yep. now to make it do some interesting stuff, beyond routing Jan 13 21:55:39 You using it to play music in the car? Jan 13 21:55:45 no, iuse the ipod for that Jan 13 21:55:53 i have a small LAN in the car now Jan 13 21:55:55 lol Jan 13 21:56:00 how geeky? ;) Jan 13 21:56:08 the slug, a linksys wrt54gc access point, and a jailbroken ipod touch Jan 13 21:56:18 slug and linksys mounted in the glove box Jan 13 21:56:30 heh Jan 13 21:56:42 in the center console storage compartment there is a usb cable. plug the cell phone into that and the slug uses it to demand dial w/ pppd Jan 13 21:56:44 to get the car online Jan 13 21:57:14 the slug also handles ipsec to route to my home and office netowkrs heh Jan 13 21:57:45 lol Jan 13 21:57:49 sounds rather ace Jan 13 21:57:54 it is pretty sweet Jan 13 21:57:55 but do you really need it? ;) Jan 13 21:58:03 i was driving down the highway streaming music off the internet Jan 13 21:58:06 and yes, yes i do ;) Jan 13 21:58:09 lol Jan 13 21:58:15 your phone bill will be big :P Jan 13 21:58:19 nope, flat rate Jan 13 21:58:26 for data Jan 13 21:58:27 thats alright then Jan 13 21:58:28 he Jan 13 21:58:29 h Jan 13 21:58:32 i get 2 megabit too Jan 13 21:58:54 yeah Jan 13 21:58:58 so its hardly sluggish Jan 13 21:59:00 i am a transplanted new enlander. this started off as me wanting to be ab le to listen to WEEI, a sports station up there, in my car Jan 13 21:59:00 hahha Jan 13 21:59:02 what a reference Jan 13 21:59:10 well it is sluggish and isn't i gues Jan 13 21:59:18 lol Jan 13 21:59:27 so, now i can indeed listen to WEEI's stream Jan 13 21:59:29 well, im meaning 2 megabit gives you a reasonable amount of bandwith Jan 13 21:59:33 i know Jan 13 21:59:46 bandwidth is alright for the car, it's a sluggish network. not in terms of speed. Jan 13 22:00:09 lol Jan 13 22:00:18 now i am going to connect the slug to the car's odbII port Jan 13 22:00:27 so i can graph sensor values and stuff and make fuel economy graphs Jan 13 22:00:42 heh Jan 13 22:00:43 cool Jan 13 22:00:57 just a usb to ODBII type connector box? Jan 13 22:01:03 yep Jan 13 22:01:08 they're just usb serial adapters Jan 13 22:01:43 there's a command line odbII app called freediag Jan 13 22:01:49 heh Jan 13 22:01:52 and it even supports some of the vw/audi extensions Jan 13 22:01:54 You'll certainly have to update CarPuter in the wiki ;) Jan 13 22:01:59 hehe Jan 13 22:02:08 yeah. i'm going to make a web page about the project Jan 13 22:02:22 gotta get my coworker to bring in his digital. that's one of the few gadgets i don't have heh Jan 13 22:02:30 digital? Jan 13 22:02:43 * Reedy_Boy should find out what contract/data plan his work crackberry is on.. Jan 13 22:02:50 oops, left a word out... digital cam Jan 13 22:02:55 haha Jan 13 22:02:57 what carrier is the crackberry through? Jan 13 22:03:08 t-mobile UK Jan 13 22:03:23 ah.. donno about UK but t-mobile US when i had them were very liberal about their data plan Jan 13 22:03:28 yeah Jan 13 22:03:31 but slooow Jan 13 22:03:36 heh, yup Jan 13 22:03:40 i use it when im out shopping and such to look at prices online Jan 13 22:03:43 donno about there but here, t-mobile are EDGE only for data Jan 13 22:04:04 i presume, with it being blackberry plan, and hence email transfer, should be quite liberal with data transfer Jan 13 22:04:28 "Unlimited web surfing and e-mails " Jan 13 22:04:33 makes sense it would seem.. Jan 13 22:04:33 yup. before this phone i had the htc wizard, aka the t-mobile mda Jan 13 22:04:52 i had their standard unlimited data plan and they let you do tethering as much as you want. for a couple months it was my primary net access at home heh Jan 13 22:05:00 lol Jan 13 22:05:04 verizon charges me an extra $15 a month for tethering =( Jan 13 22:05:08 but they are over 2Mbpes Jan 13 22:05:10 Mbps Jan 13 22:05:10 I did that on O2 GPRS Jan 13 22:05:13 only like dialup Jan 13 22:05:15 but free Jan 13 22:05:17 on a PAYG sim Jan 13 22:05:18 was ace Jan 13 22:05:21 well this acts like dialup Jan 13 22:05:26 but it isn't Jan 13 22:05:37 you plug the phone into the usb port and it emulates a standard usb ACM modem Jan 13 22:05:48 but there's not actually any modulation/demodulation going on Jan 13 22:07:50 and if i ATDT#99* then it starts up an EVDO connection and talks ppp Jan 13 22:08:01 er maybe it's *99# i forget Jan 13 22:08:14 *99# iirc Jan 13 22:08:21 works a treat with pppd tho Jan 13 22:09:00 well, once i shut off the stupid upnp on my wireless access point it does.. it kept trying to demand dial to do dns lookups Jan 13 22:09:11 lol Jan 13 22:10:09 next on the agenda, before odbII, slug needs to talk to my tomtom. always thought it would be sweet if i had a web site friends could go to, to see where i am at any moment. so, i will have it send my gps coords to the site. Jan 13 22:11:06 heh Jan 13 22:11:08 nice Jan 13 22:11:17 getting there Jan 13 22:11:25 Phone Call: "I know where you are.... Muahahahhaha!" Jan 13 22:11:59 gotta pick up my boss at the airport tomorrow. he will be my first passenger since setting this up this weekend. can't wait to see the look on his face when i casually say "there's wireless in here if you want to check your email or antyhing on the way to the office" Jan 13 22:12:38 the slug can't wake on lan can it? Jan 13 22:13:01 haha Jan 13 22:13:05 dont think so Jan 13 22:13:11 yeah i don't think so eitehr Jan 13 22:13:13 either Jan 13 22:13:15 closest you get is always power on... Jan 13 22:13:21 yeah Jan 13 22:13:41 i think what i'm going to do.. is wire my car alarm to the slug's power button Jan 13 22:13:51 Its on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/WishList Jan 13 22:14:01 i have an aux output on the car alarm, intended for stuff like remote starters and such Jan 13 22:15:16 it just sends a pulse on that output, so it's perfect. just wire a relay across the power button circuit and connect the alarm too that should do the trick Jan 13 22:15:33 to Jan 13 22:15:48 evening Jan 13 22:16:03 hm, yeah, i see that on the wishlist, but is it possible? Jan 13 22:16:07 chemist, its morning as you've only just sorta come in Jan 13 22:16:08 can I run openLDAP on a slug? Jan 13 22:16:15 isn't WoL a feature of the hardware? Jan 13 22:16:17 AFAIK, should be ok Jan 13 22:16:17 chemist: sure thing Jan 13 22:16:39 teletype, yes i think its hardware, a google did point out one of the devs saying the hardware didnt have the magic stuff Jan 13 22:16:53 yeah, that would kind of make it impossible Jan 13 22:16:59 without severe hardware hacking Jan 13 22:16:59 slug v" Jan 13 22:17:00 `ugt Jan 13 22:17:00 ok, thanks. and good morning:) Jan 13 22:17:04 ~ugt Jan 13 22:17:08 ugt? Jan 13 22:17:11 oh Jan 13 22:17:14 chemist, openldap is in optware actually Jan 13 22:17:15 no capbot Jan 13 22:17:29 Where's that bot??? UGT == Universal Greeting Time. Jan 13 22:17:30 mwester, capbot aint been about for ages :/ Jan 13 22:17:33 YAA Jan 13 22:17:37 i'm running debian Jan 13 22:17:46 oh, then it'd definitely be in debian wouldn't it? Jan 13 22:17:48 ChanServ, apt-get install openldap Jan 13 22:17:53 chemist, even Jan 13 22:17:53 lol Jan 13 22:18:02 saying that, caplink doesnt seem to be about much atm :/ Jan 13 22:18:04 i don't think chanserv will be very keen on doing any sysadmin work =) Jan 13 22:18:09 hehe Jan 13 22:18:29 i am loving openwrt Jan 13 22:21:15 Western Digital 500GB MyBook Essential and Soundbrige Radio to order... Jan 13 22:21:31 has anyone built an X server for the slug? Jan 13 22:21:56 i think people have got forms of displays working... Jan 13 22:22:05 i don't want a display.. just an X server Jan 13 22:23:16 the ipod is mounted on the dash, ipod's got a vnc client. there are some apps i want to write for the car setup, would much rather develop them in linux than learn how to do it on the ipod/iphone Jan 13 22:23:43 guess i'll compile it and see what happens Jan 13 22:29:41 aha. there's a lightweight combination X11/VNC server called Xwnc. one self contained app that starts an X server with a virtual display you can VNC into. perfect. Jan 13 22:30:15 and it segfaults when i start it, on the debian etch server at home. great. Jan 13 22:30:34 haha Jan 13 22:30:35 ace Jan 13 22:30:43 write(2, "Use default RGB format\n", 23Use default RGB format Jan 13 22:30:43 ) = 23 Jan 13 22:30:44 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- Jan 13 22:30:45 weird? Jan 13 22:30:55 poke the package maintainer? Jan 13 22:31:46 or try and debug it Jan 13 22:31:55 or that Jan 13 22:38:22 ugh. evidently it uses its own "improved" version of vnc that's not compatible w/ vnc anyway. screw that. Jan 13 22:39:37 i'll just go for regular xvnc **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 14 02:59:56 2008