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Jan 19 03:14:17 <bubbeh> why so hd spin up and freeze nslu2
Jan 19 04:03:27 <scant> can anyone help me with bitbake?
Jan 19 04:10:27 <joshin> scant: Might be better to try in #oe though odds are that everyone is asleep.
Jan 19 04:10:44 <joshin> Ask your question, if someone can help, they will.
Jan 19 04:26:35 * DrJ is happy, got audio working on the slug
Jan 19 04:26:36 <DrJ> :)
Jan 19 06:06:15 <DrJ_> hey
Jan 19 06:06:26 <DrJ_> is there no telnet for slugosbe
Jan 19 06:06:35 <DrJ_> available?
Jan 19 06:28:58 <DrJ_> anyone?
Jan 19 06:35:37 <mwester> Probably not; it's not a utility that's in high demand any more.
Jan 19 06:35:55 <mwester> (ssh is the way to go for pretty much everything)
Jan 19 06:36:33 * DrJ_ thinks someone should at least make it available
Jan 19 06:54:42 <eno> DrJ: /opt/bin/telnet -> /opt/bin/inetutils-telnet
Jan 19 06:55:51 <DrJ> those don't exist
Jan 19 06:56:31 <eno> it's from optware/slugosbe inetutils ipk
Jan 19 06:58:22 <DrJ> appears those are clients
Jan 19 06:58:24 <DrJ> not servers
Jan 19 06:59:16 <mwester> DrJ_:  ipkg install http://moko.mwester.net/inetutils_1.5-r0_armv5teb.ipk
Jan 19 06:59:36 <mwester> No guarantees, but if it works, we can see if osas will add it to the feeds.
Jan 19 06:59:44 <DrJ> I did the /opt/bin/ipkg install inetutils-telnet
Jan 19 07:00:17 <mwester> ah well. then it won't go in the native feeds, I guess. 
Jan 19 07:02:08 <DrJ> another question
Jan 19 07:02:14 <DrJ> whenever I do ipkg install and stuff
Jan 19 07:02:26 <DrJ> it always gives me error messages on installs I did previously
Jan 19 07:03:04 * mwester observes that DrJ could just install both optware and native versions of the inetutils package as the naming conventions will keep them from conflicting.
Jan 19 07:04:10 <DrJ> mwester: http://ww2.jwjkp.com/log.php <--why does it give me error messages about past installs
Jan 19 07:06:04 <mwester> Because those installs failed, and were not marked as completed.  ipkg will continue to try to finish them until they complete sucessfully.
Jan 19 07:06:33 <mwester> looks like the package in question is mpd.
Jan 19 07:07:04 <mwester> Apparently it has an install script with the package, and the install script is failing because something it is looking for doesn't exist.
Jan 19 07:07:04 <DrJ> before it was lighttpd
Jan 19 07:07:46 <DrJ> oh well, I guess its no big deal
Jan 19 07:07:47 <eno> DrJ: don't mix slugos packages and optware ones
Jan 19 07:07:54 <eno> for telnetd, /opt/libexec/telnetd -> /opt/libexec/inetutils-telnetd
Jan 19 07:07:55 <DrJ> why not?
Jan 19 07:08:35 <eno> b/c dependencies are managed separately
Jan 19 07:08:54 <DrJ> I had to when I installed cups
Jan 19 07:09:11 * DrJ has two ipkg's right now, created an alias 'opt' for the optware one
Jan 19 07:09:37 <eno> that's probably fine
Jan 19 07:10:03 <DrJ> so for slugos I use ipkg and for optware I use opt
Jan 19 07:10:19 * DrJ is happy though
Jan 19 07:10:30 * DrJ is listning to music over his slug right now :)
Jan 19 07:14:48 <Dennib1> lol
Jan 19 09:13:17 <MiKa_> DrJ: did you use a usb sound card
Jan 19 09:15:37 <DrJ> yes
Jan 19 09:15:41 <DrJ> one I got from ebay
Jan 19 09:15:43 <DrJ> for like $2
Jan 19 09:16:08 <DrJ> bought it a long time ago
Jan 19 09:16:13 <DrJ> to find out it didn't work with unslung
Jan 19 09:16:24 <DrJ> couple weeks ago I decided to switch to openos
Jan 19 09:16:38 <DrJ> today I finally used it/got it working
Jan 19 09:17:56 <DrJ> http://cgi.ebay.com/5-1-Sound-card-USB-Audio-Microphone-Adapter-For-Laptop_W0QQitemZ300191183304QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3701QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  <--pretty much the exact same one I bought
Jan 19 09:18:18 <DrJ> actually....
Jan 19 09:18:19 <DrJ> http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-KEY-SIZE-5-1-CHANNEL-AUDIO-SOUND-CARD-ADAPTOR-USA_W0QQitemZ180207952190QQihZ008QQcategoryZ3701QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Jan 19 09:18:26 <DrJ> ^^^that is the exact one I got
Jan 19 09:20:03 <MiKa_> And how is the sound ?
Jan 19 09:20:11 <MiKa_> 5.1 ?
Jan 19 09:20:31 <DrJ> well, as of right now I only have a single old speaker hooked up to it
Jan 19 09:20:41 <DrJ> but it sounds good for one speaker
Jan 19 09:20:50 <DrJ> I plugged in a headset and it sounded great also
Jan 19 09:22:09 <DrJ> so far I have confirmed wav and mp3 support
Jan 19 09:27:04 <MiKa_> ok nice.. so that wil be your multimedia set :)
Jan 19 09:27:16 <MiKa_> are you gona use it serius ?
Jan 19 09:30:14 <DrJ> idk
Jan 19 09:30:16 <DrJ> :)
Jan 19 09:32:59 <MiKa_> idk 
Jan 19 09:33:01 <MiKa_> ?
Jan 19 09:33:25 * DrJ sees some uses for it other than music
Jan 19 09:33:30 <DrJ> such as status messages
Jan 19 09:33:33 <DrJ> alarm clock
Jan 19 09:34:48 <MiKa_> ok it is a idea :) and for 2 $ it is not expensive
Jan 19 09:35:16 <DrJ> :)
Jan 19 09:38:46 <MiKa_> so and now i have to take a shower and dress my self... by the way anyone know where caplink is ?
Jan 19 11:32:56 <Dennisb1> ?
Jan 19 11:33:06 <Dennisb1> is that possible to have a soundcard on it :/
Jan 19 17:28:09 <Guest4137> ..
Jan 19 17:28:29 <Guest4137> hey people. i need some help is some has a few min
Jan 19 17:28:44 <Tumaini> Hello! Does anyone in here use a media extender, like Soundbridge Homemusic, Squeezebox or Noxon Audio?
Jan 19 17:31:44 <Tumaini> Hey, lurkers! Wake up! :)
Jan 19 20:19:11 <yIeleile> eno- i reinstalled slugosbe after trying debian and with rtorrent i'm back to error: HandshakeManager::receive_succeeded(...) Unread data won't fit PCB's read buffer - do you have any other compiled versions I can d/l and test?
Jan 19 20:44:02 <Dennisb1> Hello
Jan 19 20:53:35 <Dennisb1> Is there somewhone ho can help
Jan 19 20:55:52 <mcwurst> I have just installed openslug. I think it worked out well except from that when i try to install a package.
Jan 19 20:56:34 <Dennisb1> i wiss i could help... but sorry
Jan 19 20:56:42 <mcwurst> Then i get the message read only file system
Jan 19 20:56:56 <Dennisb1> oh you ned to install it on a flash disk or something
Jan 19 20:57:00 <Dennisb1> not the internal flkash
Jan 19 20:57:11 <Dennisb1> flash*
Jan 19 20:59:07 <mcwurst> I think i have. I have followed the guides at the nslu2-linux.org site. 
Jan 19 20:59:10 <mcwurst> Doesn
Jan 19 21:01:04 <mwester> mcwurst:  Perhaps a good place to start would be some background.  What did you install (SlugOS/BE or LE, what version?)  Can you SSH into it?  Have you done the "turnup init" and the "turnup disk" yet?
Jan 19 21:04:46 <mcwurst> installed: slugosbe-4.8-beta, ssh works very well and i have done both the turnup operations.
Jan 19 21:09:57 <mwester> Can you check what the "mount" command says -- is the root filesystem perhaps mounted read-only?
Jan 19 21:12:24 <Dennisb1> hmmm my flash disk is flashing al the time..
Jan 19 21:12:41 <Dennisb1> thats not good...
Jan 19 21:13:02 <mcwurst> id this it: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (ro,data=ordered)
Jan 19 21:13:19 <Dennisb1> read only...
Jan 19 21:13:28 <mwester> Yep: "ro" is read-only.
Jan 19 21:13:51 <mcwurst> ok. how do i Change it?
Jan 19 21:14:25 <mcwurst> chmod?
Jan 19 21:14:32 <mwester> Usually when a linux system leaves the root disk mounted read-only, it's because it failed the file-system consistency check at boot -- in other words, it may be corrupted or damaged and therefore vulnerable to corruption if anyone writes to it.
Jan 19 21:14:34 <Dennisb1> no
Jan 19 21:14:36 <Dennisb1> bootsector
Jan 19 21:14:50 <mwester> You need to run the fsck utility on the device.
Jan 19 21:15:19 <mwester> type "turnup ram", reboot, and run an fsck on /dev/sda1 to see what's damaged.
Jan 19 21:16:15 <mcwurst> wierd. Now it doesn
Jan 19 21:16:29 <mcwurst> 't recognize the command turnup
Jan 19 21:16:33 <Dennisb1> hmm i gues im back to the stock firmware
Jan 19 21:17:30 <mcwurst> Probably something rather broken with this device right?
Jan 19 21:21:15 <mwester> mcwurst:  sounds like filesystem corruption is a very real possibility.
Jan 19 21:21:54 <mwester> see if you can shut the device down.  The boot it up without the disk.  ssh into it.  plug the disk in.  then run fsck on it.
Jan 19 21:23:14 <Dennisb1> hmm stupid usb disk's ru;n's at max speed... ver anoying
Jan 19 21:24:44 <mcwurst> Resize inode not valid.  Recreate<y>? yes or no?
Jan 19 21:30:09 <mcwurst> There where 5 blocks which it couldn't read from
Jan 19 21:34:10 <Dennisb1> ofcourse yes...
Jan 19 21:36:48 <mcwurst> Well thanks for all your help. I will try with another disk tomorrow. 
Jan 19 21:37:14 <mcwurst> I really apritiate it! 
Jan 19 21:38:40 <mcwurst> Haha. Now it works!!!
Jan 19 21:38:49 <mcwurst> thank you!!!
Jan 19 22:00:39 <Dennisb1> stupid nlu
Jan 19 22:02:54 <Reedy_Boy> ?
Jan 19 22:03:12 <krim__> anyone using a slug with kamikaze 7.09? im having trouble using pivot root.
Jan 19 22:04:03 <Dennisb1> ell the disk's runs at full speed (ki hoped that this whas fixed) and the flash disk is flashing every 3 sec
Jan 19 22:04:20 <Reedy_Boy> have you turned the swap off?
Jan 19 22:04:36 <Dennisb1> hmm dunno
Jan 19 22:04:51 <Dennisb1> i never turned it on
Jan 19 22:05:23 <Reedy_Boy> its on by default
Jan 19 22:05:53 <Reedy_Boy> that will explain why the flash stick is more than likely flashing every 3 seconds
Jan 19 22:06:30 <Reedy_Boy> Dennisb1, 2 things to do
Jan 19 22:06:35 <Reedy_Boy> touch /.ext3flash
Jan 19 22:06:40 <Reedy_Boy> on the root of the drive
Jan 19 22:06:57 <Reedy_Boy> then you've got a script to create..
Jan 19 22:07:41 <krim__> Reedy_Boy: what fw do you use on your slug(s) ?
Jan 19 22:07:55 <Reedy_Boy> Debian and Unslung
Jan 19 22:08:14 <Dennisb1> a scrip?
Jan 19 22:08:18 <Dennisb1> what cind
Jan 19 22:08:38 <Reedy_Boy> hang on, i think its un-necessary now
Jan 19 22:08:56 <krim__> k, debian needs to have swap activated during install, how can i do that when i have the swap and ext3 fs on the same usb stick ?
Jan 19 22:10:52 <Dennisb1> its turned on automaticly  uess
Jan 19 22:11:15 <Reedy_Boy> no.. swap during a debian install is a bit funny
Jan 19 22:11:32 <Reedy_Boy> it doesnt "need" to unless your having formatting issues ?
Jan 19 22:12:49 <krim__> yeah i have issues
Jan 19 22:13:06 <krim__> it gets disconnected during formatting every single time
Jan 19 22:13:30 <Reedy_Boy> ah
Jan 19 22:13:42 <Reedy_Boy> not got a memory stick or something you can use for swap temporarily?
Jan 19 22:14:02 <krim__> yeah ive figured that too, but no :s
Jan 19 22:14:37 <Reedy_Boy> errm... this was in the arm mailing lists not so long ago
Jan 19 22:14:58 <Reedy_Boy> or how to do it if you've got the space..
Jan 19 22:15:59 <Reedy_Boy> i wonder if you'd be able to use the shell option in a seperate ssh session...
Jan 19 22:16:00 <Dennisb1> buy one...
Jan 19 22:16:08 <krim__> hm
Jan 19 22:16:13 <Reedy_Boy> and then creates  swap partition, mount it... then make the rest of the partitions?
Jan 19 22:16:46 <krim__> i did that too :s yeah ill just have to buy borrow or something
Jan 19 22:19:52 <Dennisb1> buy and return hehe
Jan 19 22:26:28 <Dennisb1> good no script?
Jan 19 22:28:44 <Reedy_Boy> yeah
Jan 19 22:28:48 <Reedy_Boy> just touch /.ext3flash
Jan 19 22:28:54 <Reedy_Boy> and a probable restart
Jan 19 22:29:15 <Reedy_Boy> or swapoff /dev/sda3 IIRC
Jan 19 22:31:25 <Dennisb1> ok let me try
Jan 19 22:31:36 <Dennisb1> thingy is booting as i shut it down 
Jan 19 22:33:05 <Dennisb1> no output?
Jan 19 22:33:25 <Dennisb1> when i do touch no output..
Jan 19 22:33:47 <Dennisb1> ah swapoff -a
Jan 19 22:34:48 <Reedy_Boy> swapon -a will show you a list of active swap
Jan 19 22:35:45 <Dennisb1>         -a      Stop swapping on all swap devices
Jan 19 22:35:51 <Dennisb1> :)
Jan 19 22:36:40 <krim__> free will show you used and free swap, swap devices etc
Jan 19 22:37:19 <krim__> ehm sorry not swap devices
Jan 19 22:37:39 <Dennisb1>  Swap:            0            0            0
Jan 19 22:37:53 <krim__> no swap then
Jan 19 22:38:02 <Dennisb1> yeah let me check the flashing ligh
Jan 19 22:38:50 <Dennisb1> yeah it stopped :D
Jan 19 22:38:51 <Dennisb1> thx
Jan 19 22:39:06 <krim__> dont thank me
Jan 19 22:39:25 <Dennisb1> im thanking both
Jan 19 22:39:27 <Dennisb1> :)
Jan 19 22:39:36 <Dennisb1> hmm only 8.5 mb free ram space
Jan 19 22:39:38 <Dennisb1> thats not allot
Jan 19 22:41:09 <Reedy_Boy> when it only has 32mb - its 25%
Jan 19 22:41:40 <Reedy_Boy> over 25%
Jan 19 22:41:55 <Reedy_Boy> SLUG:~# swapon -s
Jan 19 22:41:56 <Reedy_Boy> Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority
Jan 19 22:41:56 <Reedy_Boy> /dev/sda5                               partition       88316   692     -1
Jan 19 22:41:58 <mwester> free ram is wasted ram -- the kernel should reallocate all free memory to i/o cache as it needs it.
Jan 19 22:43:04 <Dennisb1> well.. i want to run a webserver on it with php
Jan 19 22:43:28 <Dennisb1> ive seen an apache package on the unslung package lst so i will do that tommorow
Jan 19 22:43:30 <Dennisb1> getting late here...
Jan 19 22:51:37 <Dennisb1> ood im going to bed now its almost tommorow already
Jan 19 22:51:40 <Dennisb1> goodnight :)
Jan 19 22:52:00 <krim__> how can i make pivotroot work ?
Jan 19 22:59:02 <Reedy_Boy> whats the problem?
Jan 19 23:00:24 <DrJ> is the wiki down?
Jan 19 23:01:12 <Reedy_Boy> nslu2-linux.org wiki?
Jan 19 23:01:35 <DrJ> yes
Jan 19 23:01:35 <Reedy_Boy> hmm, seems to be now.. was just going slow before, but i thought it was my internet connection
Jan 19 23:01:46 * DrJ can't access it either
Jan 19 23:02:15 <Reedy_Boy> just loading slowly
Jan 19 23:02:24 <Reedy_Boy> mwester, any maintenance or anything going on?
Jan 19 23:03:05 <DrJ> ah
Jan 19 23:03:07 <DrJ> there is loaded
Jan 19 23:03:43 <DrJ> okay questions
Jan 19 23:03:52 <DrJ> I have a audio card installed and working on my slug
Jan 19 23:03:55 <DrJ> the wiki says this: It's also capable of playing streamed music (internet radio, or stream the audio of the movie you're watching on your notebook).
Jan 19 23:03:59 <DrJ> but does not say how
Jan 19 23:04:17 <DrJ> I want to do the streaming radio
Jan 19 23:11:45 <Reedy_Boy> presumably just some sort of media player DrJ ?
Jan 19 23:12:20 <DrJ> I have two
Jan 19 23:12:24 <DrJ> and looked through their options
Jan 19 23:12:28 <DrJ> nothing about streaming
Jan 19 23:13:44 <Reedy_Boy> its just telling the source is usually a web address/similar
Jan 19 23:13:55 <DrJ> tried that
Jan 19 23:41:36 <scant> anyone here?
Jan 19 23:42:07 <Reedy_Boy> maybe
Jan 19 23:42:19 <scant> i need help with bitbake
Jan 20 00:24:22 <osas> scant: do you want to build the faac package for slugos?
Jan 20 00:30:08 <gouki> gay question: anyone here uses twitter?
Jan 20 00:31:09 <scant> hi osas
Jan 20 00:31:41 <osas> hi
Jan 20 00:31:52 <osas> what do you want to do?
Jan 20 00:31:59 <scant> osas: i'm trying to upgrade to mpd 0.13 for native openembedded slug os
Jan 20 00:32:01 <osas> your bb files points to flaac
Jan 20 00:32:07 <osas> faac
Jan 20 00:32:22 <scant> osas: i'm starting out by upgrading all mpd 0.13 dependencies
Jan 20 00:32:38 <scant> osas: i'm started with faad2, but i'm getting some errors
Jan 20 00:32:48 <scant> osas: i'm not sure if my bb file is correct
Jan 20 00:32:50 <osas> check the openembedded repo
Jan 20 00:32:59 <osas> there are some already there
Jan 20 00:33:03 <scant> what's the openembeeded repo
Jan 20 00:33:19 <osas> and build your cross compile environment first
Jan 20 00:33:29 <scant> osas: it's built
Jan 20 00:33:43 <osas> for the stable release or for dev?
Jan 20 00:33:57 <scant> osas: i don't understand the question
Jan 20 00:34:48 <osas> there is slugos-4.8 and dev
Jan 20 00:35:04 <scant> slugos-4.8
Jan 20 00:35:07 <osas> which one do you have?
Jan 20 00:35:09 <osas> ok
Jan 20 00:35:15 <osas> so it is the stable one
Jan 20 00:35:38 <osas> have you built any packages using your environment?
Jan 20 00:36:22 <scant> i built the slugos tar, doesn't that build packages
Jan 20 00:37:09 <osas> go to the directory where you have the master Makefile
Jan 20 00:37:16 <scant> ok
Jan 20 00:37:23 <osas> from there: cd releases/slugos-4.8-beta
Jan 20 00:37:35 <osas> then: . ./setup-env
Jan 20 00:37:58 <osas> and start building a package: bitbake <package>
Jan 20 00:37:59 <scant> for me it's just cd/slugos-4.8-beta
Jan 20 00:38:06 <scant> what package should i build?
Jan 20 00:38:26 <osas> the one that you need
Jan 20 00:39:01 <osas> check them in releases/slugos-4.8-beta/openembedded/packages
Jan 20 00:39:04 <scant> osas: i don't have a faad2_2.5.bb file, i'm trying to make one by using the one i do have, faad2_2.0.bb
Jan 20 00:39:10 <osas> build whatever you meed for mpd
Jan 20 00:39:36 <osas> there is faad2_2.0.bb
Jan 20 00:39:43 <osas> isn't that good enough?
Jan 20 00:39:57 <scant> i would like to have parity with the optware version, it's at 2.5
Jan 20 00:40:22 <osas> then copy faad2_2.0.bb to faad2_2.5.bb
Jan 20 00:40:26 <scant> i did
Jan 20 00:40:30 <osas> and faad2-2.0/ to faad2-2.5/
Jan 20 00:40:35 <osas> try to compile
Jan 20 00:40:51 <osas> fix the errors if there are any
Jan 20 00:41:17 <osas> check the openembedded website
Jan 20 00:41:54 <osas> http://www.openembedded.org/
Jan 20 00:42:02 <osas> read the wiki
Jan 20 00:42:19 <osas> there's lots of information there
Jan 20 00:44:45 <scant> trying now
Jan 20 00:45:53 <scant> it failed
Jan 20 00:47:04 <scant> http://pastebin.ca/865541
Jan 20 00:53:15 <scant> osas: are you still there?
Jan 20 02:37:41 <mrpurple> hello, i'm installing asterisk in the DS 106J did someone had a try ?
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