**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 24 02:59:57 2008
Jan 24 12:59:13 <Dennisb1> Hello is anyone here?
Jan 24 13:11:43 <Kvaks> Yeah.
Jan 24 13:18:21 <Dennisb1> great
Jan 24 13:18:31 <Dennisb1> do you understand php on the nslu?
Jan 24 13:18:41 <Dennisb1> because i got a weird problem
Jan 24 13:19:05 <Dennisb1> i installed lighttpd and php and mysql with ipkg install but now my phpbb install say' that there is no mysql
Jan 24 13:52:46 <Kvaks> Dennisb1: Sorry, I don't know.
Jan 24 14:22:07 <Dennisb1> k
Jan 24 16:10:48 <OliverV> hi
Jan 24 19:58:52 <daveybOy> hey guys.... slug is causign big headache over last few days... shares disaprear overnight, admn now the shares i got require login to access despite access being set to everybody.... whats best way of sorting this once and for all? web interface or config file editing on slug?
Jan 24 19:59:34 <Reedy_Boy> bin unslung? ;)
Jan 24 20:00:20 <daveybOy> ha im tempted to be honest
Jan 24 20:00:44 <Reedy_Boy> it would give you more control over everything..
Jan 24 20:00:55 <Reedy_Boy> but of course.. its horses for causes
Jan 24 20:01:19 <daveybOy> no longer scared of not havign web interface..... do have few things i want set up though that i know web interface offers (backup and ftp server) that migth not be as easy 2 use via console
Jan 24 20:02:35 <daveybOy> what u recomend?
Jan 24 20:02:35 <Reedy_Boy> ftp can be done on anything - install server, setup folders..
Jan 24 20:02:43 <Reedy_Boy> whats the backup do? i cant remember
Jan 24 20:03:09 <daveybOy> yea not hard... backup folder from pc to slug (wanna set systematic backup of photoes)
Jan 24 20:03:26 <Reedy_Boy> the interface does that? :S
Jan 24 20:03:33 <daveybOy> yea
Jan 24 20:03:59 <Reedy_Boy> shows how much attention i've paid to i
Jan 24 20:04:00 <Reedy_Boy> t
Jan 24 20:04:25 <daveybOy> haha i had quick play last nigth but didnt actually get it to sync
Jan 24 20:04:36 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 24 20:04:48 <Reedy_Boy> but of course
Jan 24 20:04:53 <Reedy_Boy> that can be easily done - shares on the NSLU2
Jan 24 20:04:58 <Reedy_Boy> windows script to copy/sync files
Jan 24 20:06:37 <daveybOy> cool
Jan 24 20:06:37 <daveybOy> fucks sake.... cant log in from xp 2 my shares... stupid slug!!!! right whats recomendation for diff firwmare on it
Jan 24 20:06:37 <daveybOy> hasd it with unslung for now
Jan 24 20:08:58 <Reedy_Boy> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/FirmwareMatrix
Jan 24 20:09:01 <Reedy_Boy> Bottom of the page
Jan 24 20:09:08 <Reedy_Boy> Read Rods message
Jan 24 20:09:44 <daveybOy> was already on that page :)
Jan 24 20:11:48 <daveybOy> what do u run btw?
Jan 24 20:11:57 <Reedy_Boy> debian on one
Jan 24 20:12:36 <Reedy_Boy> its now being my print server, media server setup... just working out a decent transfer protocol - was gonna use NFS, but it seems the vista client maybe has issues... so just putting samba on it now
Jan 24 20:12:43 <Reedy_Boy> then got an unslung one that isnt doing much atm
Jan 24 20:14:06 <daveybOy> wondering about openwrt.... it seems a sort of half way house..... basically i certainly not experienced linux user, but i learnt enough to find unslung to be more more trouble that its worth for what i need
Jan 24 20:14:38 <Reedy_Boy> openwrt has an interface... Not sure how much you can control of the actual nslu2 functions..
Jan 24 20:16:05 <daveybOy> right. its not so much the interface that concerns me to be honets. i think by now your gettinf idea of what my needs are, i after file server, ftp server rtorrent client!!! (with hopefully working ntorrent) and thats mostly it
Jan 24 20:16:52 <daveybOy> stability and set up are mostly key to what i after. not needing whole load of features... based on what u know about diff packages, which would you say would suit that the best
Jan 24 20:20:26 <Reedy_Boy> most are rather easy to setup.. Stability, dont think ive seen people complain about any...
Jan 24 20:20:44 <daveybOy> looking at debian? 
Jan 24 20:29:27 <Reedy_Boy> debian i find is reasonable
Jan 24 20:29:44 <Reedy_Boy> its just not optimised for the low memory applications, whereas other distro's are
Jan 24 20:30:02 <daveybOy> yea foundn that
Jan 24 20:30:06 <Reedy_Boy> its not a major thing
Jan 24 20:30:11 <Reedy_Boy> unless you wanted it to do LOADS of thing
Jan 24 20:30:11 <Reedy_Boy> s
Jan 24 20:30:13 <daveybOy> lookign like slugOS is ne i going with now
Jan 24 20:30:28 <daveybOy> big end or little?
Jan 24 20:30:40 <Reedy_Boy> lol, not really the person to as
Jan 24 20:30:51 <daveybOy> whats fdiff?
Jan 24 20:30:54 <Reedy_Boy> *ask
Jan 24 20:30:58 <Reedy_Boy> slugOS seems rather good - more optimised/specialised
Jan 24 20:31:01 <Reedy_Boy> just not as simple to setup
Jan 24 20:31:03 <daveybOy> ah no prob
Jan 24 20:31:07 <daveybOy> yea thats what i thought
Jan 24 20:31:20 <Reedy_Boy> mwesters your SlugOS man
Jan 24 20:31:24 <daveybOy> well lets see how this goes
Jan 24 20:31:30 <daveybOy> ah cool. good to have a name ;)
Jan 24 20:32:15 <Reedy_Boy> he's one of the dev's for it
Jan 24 20:33:01 <daveybOy> ah thats handy then :D:D:D
Jan 24 20:33:16 <Reedy_Boy> i think im right in saying that
Jan 24 20:33:16 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 24 20:33:18 <daveybOy> flashign now, so will see how we go :D
Jan 24 20:33:24 <Reedy_Boy> you going with it?
Jan 24 20:33:24 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 24 20:33:30 <Reedy_Boy> but definately an advocate of it
Jan 24 20:34:14 <daveybOy> yup
Jan 24 20:34:43 <daveybOy> can always flash later if i disagree with it... i take it ssh works straight from boot
Jan 24 20:34:52 <Reedy_Boy> i have no idea
Jan 24 20:34:54 <Reedy_Boy> i'd suspect so
Jan 24 20:35:01 <Reedy_Boy> wait for the beep i think
Jan 24 20:35:52 <daveybOy> no probs :)
Jan 24 20:36:17 <daveybOy> then got to get samba working, but reading that now.... if i get that sorted that will certainly be good for tonight
Jan 24 20:37:39 <daveybOy> by way, i been chmoding 777 folders (to try and sort problems out that i been having)...but now i running proper os, what folder permisions should i be running on folders like music and tv on my network 9want w/r permisions from users, but can set up network places with passwords
Jan 24 20:38:08 <Reedy_Boy> you have a user in the group for the file
Jan 24 20:38:19 <Reedy_Boy> folder
Jan 24 20:38:23 <Reedy_Boy> and let it have rwx on it i suspect
Jan 24 20:39:18 <daveybOy> yea thats what i after, what i ment is, whats the chmod command for that?
Jan 24 20:39:54 <Reedy_Boy> CHMOD 777 - first 7 is the owner, 2nd is the owners group i think, and 3rd is everyone else
Jan 24 20:40:48 <daveybOy> right, 7 means rwx what is just r
Jan 24 20:41:29 <Reedy_Boy> 0 - ---
Jan 24 20:41:29 <Reedy_Boy> 1 - --x
Jan 24 20:41:29 <Reedy_Boy> 2 - -w-
Jan 24 20:41:29 <Reedy_Boy> 3 - -wx 
Jan 24 20:41:29 <Reedy_Boy> 4 - r--
Jan 24 20:41:30 <Reedy_Boy> 5 - r-x
Jan 24 20:41:32 <Reedy_Boy> 6 - rw-
Jan 24 20:41:34 <Reedy_Boy> 7 - rwx
Jan 24 20:43:38 <daveybOy> lovely :D
Jan 24 20:45:08 <mwester> chmod 4755 /usr/bin/trojan-program
Jan 24 20:45:57 <jprind> chmod -R 007 / # for a stealthier system 
Jan 24 20:47:07 <mwester> chmod -R a-x /bin # for a system that won't run anymore
Jan 24 20:47:42 <Reedy_Boy> Typical - The vista NFS client is shit :(
Jan 24 20:48:03 <jprind> yeah, that's not surprising
Jan 24 20:48:11 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 24 20:48:21 <Reedy_Boy> i was trying to use NFS rather than samba on the NSLU2
Jan 24 20:48:22 <mwester> Don't be so hasty - the NSLU2 can't take the pounding of a quality NFS client very well unless it's really well set up.
Jan 24 20:48:46 <Reedy_Boy> hmm.. i did wonder if it was just some sort of configuration issue
Jan 24 20:48:58 <Reedy_Boy> as a test, i've now got samba on, and that responds as expected
Jan 24 20:49:11 <jprind> Reedy_Boy, i was thinking of trying it out. don't have any vista clients though, i would be using SFU on XP (anyone tried?)
Jan 24 20:49:14 <daveybOy> mwester, whats password /user for shh on first load of openssh
Jan 24 20:49:22 <daveybOy> of open OS i mean
Jan 24 20:49:27 <mwester> NFS version you used?  TCP or UDP?  What were the symptoms of the failure, Reedy_Boy ?
Jan 24 20:49:37 <Reedy_Boy> if i can get NFS to respond simaliry, i'd be happy
Jan 24 20:49:45 <mwester> daveybOy:  SlugOS?  root/opeNSLUg
Jan 24 20:49:51 <Reedy_Boy> mwester, it works, its just VERY slow to windows
Jan 24 20:50:05 <Reedy_Boy> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/message/7108;_ylc=X3oDMTM2ZG1kbGx1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMzM5OTQ1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTAwNTM3OARtc2dJZAM3MTA4BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyMDExOTI3MjAEdHBjSWQDNzEwOA--
Jan 24 20:50:08 <daveybOy> lovely. cheers :)
Jan 24 20:50:18 <Reedy_Boy> Its fine from debian in VMWare on my vista pc - browse quickly and such
Jan 24 20:50:31 <Reedy_Boy> Just takes ages to load directories and such on vista, menu's take 30 seconds to open
Jan 24 20:50:38 <mwester> Well, one thing to keep in mind is that there's a fundamental disconnect between Windows filesystems and *nix filesystems.
Jan 24 20:50:52 <Reedy_Boy> EH
Jan 24 20:51:00 <Reedy_Boy> Im now really confused
Jan 24 20:51:05 <Reedy_Boy> samba and NFS running...
Jan 24 20:51:22 <mwester> Windows assumes that a directory read will return *ALL* the info about all the files (DTM, size, etc).  *nix systems return only the filenames, and require a stat() system call for each file of interest.
Jan 24 20:51:23 <Reedy_Boy> now NFS is responsive :/
Jan 24 20:52:01 <mwester> The result is the same for NFS or Samba -- a windows client beats the **** out of the server asking for detailed info (most of which it never uses).
Jan 24 20:52:29 <mwester> Samba might actually be the better choice, as it understand this about Windows, and has caches and other behaviors that you can tune to reduce this problem.
Jan 24 20:52:30 <Reedy_Boy> why doesnt that suprise me
Jan 24 20:54:23 <Reedy_Boy> hmm, that would make sense mwester
Jan 24 20:55:06 <daveybOy> mwester got shh access, and installing samba on freshly flashed slugOS, just got errors about it saying could not open files, no space left on device
Jan 24 20:57:49 <mwester> daveybOy:  you probably need to add a disk drive...
Jan 24 20:58:02 <mwester> it only has a very very small amount of internal flash left.
Jan 24 20:59:00 <daveybOy> i flashed with them already attached...... has it not recognised them? do i need to mount or something?
Jan 24 20:59:28 <mwester> daveybOy:  reflash (your internal flash is full, so you need to reflash it).
Jan 24 20:59:39 <mwester> Then boot it, login, and run turnup init
Jan 24 20:59:50 <daveybOy> k
Jan 24 21:00:01 <daveybOy> with hdd conected/disconected?
Jan 24 21:00:12 <mwester> Doesn't matter
Jan 24 21:00:14 <daveybOy> k
Jan 24 21:00:25 <mwester> You'll then have to partition and format the disk(s)
Jan 24 21:00:49 <daveybOy> balls
Jan 24 21:00:54 <mwester> Then you run "turnup disk" with the correct options, whcih is roughly sort of the equivalent of "unsling"
Jan 24 21:01:02 <daveybOy> was hoping to avoid that
Jan 24 21:01:37 <mwester> The only way to avoid that is to either not install any software, or go with openwrt.
Jan 24 21:02:27 <daveybOy> right... wmigth give openwrt for time being, as i aint got my other hdd for backup at mo
Jan 24 21:03:07 <Reedy_Boy> mwester, would seem with smbd/nmbd running, NFS is much more responsive
Jan 24 21:05:18 <Reedy_Boy> or more specifically, smbd
Jan 24 21:07:21 <Reedy_Boy> both makes it most responsive..
Jan 24 21:07:28 <Reedy_Boy> they must be helping with the windows interfacing
Jan 24 21:12:28 <Reedy_Boy> I think your probably right Mike - Samba is probably a better choice for windows...
Jan 24 21:12:43 <Reedy_Boy> so may aswell remove NFS for the time being at least - no need for it otherwise
Jan 24 21:12:45 <Reedy_Boy> current
Jan 24 21:12:46 <Reedy_Boy> ly
Jan 24 21:24:05 <Reedy_Boy> /dev/sdb1            480719056    202804 456097052   1% /mnt/mybook
Jan 24 21:24:07 <Reedy_Boy> 20GB used :/
Jan 24 21:24:47 <Reedy_Boy> theres nought on it
Jan 24 21:35:15 <WanderingII> hello everyone. Notied the linksys nslu device on amazon and im thinking about purchasing it to add to my wireless network at home.
Jan 24 21:35:48 <WanderingII> i was wondering can i run a itunes server, file sharer and connect a printer to this all at the one time?
Jan 24 21:36:00 <Reedy_Boy> WanderingII, yup
Jan 24 21:36:06 <Reedy_Boy> Im just fiddling with my setup now :)
Jan 24 21:36:10 <WanderingII> excellent.
Jan 24 21:36:45 <WanderingII> is it possible to have this connected to my wireles router, so that if i buy a nintendo wii, i can connect to it and view the videos through the wii?
Jan 24 21:37:08 <Reedy_Boy> yeah, should be...
Jan 24 21:37:18 <Reedy_Boy> as long as the media server supports the WII
Jan 24 21:37:21 <WanderingII> cool.
Jan 24 21:37:41 <WanderingII> have to say the device sounds excellent.
Jan 24 21:38:51 <WanderingII> oh and i already have a my book 250gb external hard drive which i want to attach to it for the storage, but its already in ntfs format with a lot of files on it. will it still work like this across all my computers where all but 1 are windows and the other is fedora? or will i need to change this?
Jan 24 21:42:14 <Reedy_Boy> urrm
Jan 24 21:42:25 <Reedy_Boy> depending on the distro you use... you could leave it as NTFS i suppose
Jan 24 21:43:01 <Reedy_Boy> ie with debian you've got access to the NTFS libraries and such
Jan 24 21:43:24 <WanderingII> i could work around it by transferrin them to another hard drive then back again if necessary, just would be a pain. whats the best firmware to use on the box or is it best to stick with whats on it and upgrade for the ntfs support?
Jan 24 21:44:22 <Reedy_Boy> if you want a media server, you cant stay with the linksys stock firmware
Jan 24 21:45:37 <WanderingII> o rite.ok.
Jan 24 21:47:04 <WanderingII> must read more on the wiki then.thanks.
Jan 24 21:47:08 <Reedy_Boy> yeah
Jan 24 21:47:16 <Reedy_Boy> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
Jan 24 21:47:18 <Reedy_Boy> /dev/sdb1             459G  199M  435G   1% /mnt/mybook
Jan 24 21:47:59 <Reedy_Boy> 459G - 199M != 435G
Jan 24 21:51:52 <daveybOy> grrr openwrt dont seem to load. flash via reset and then it doest restart
Jan 24 23:08:41 <daveybOy> any way of formating hdd drive for unslung when links web fails to (bug)
Jan 24 23:09:18 <Reedy_Boy> may be able to via telnet..
Jan 24 23:09:46 <daveybOy> ye? knwo command?
Jan 24 23:10:49 <Reedy_Boy> fdisk is used for formatting..
Jan 24 23:10:53 <Reedy_Boy> partitioning
Jan 24 23:10:54 <Reedy_Boy> even
Jan 24 23:11:09 <Reedy_Boy> mkfs.ext3 can be used for formatting.. dunno if unslung has them, presumably it will
Jan 24 23:16:06 <daveybOy> its got it... not sure what usage to put.... tried fdisk /dev/sda1 and that ran but hasnt formated hdd in unslug suitable way
Jan 24 23:16:27 <daveybOy> really cant be arsed to load stock firmware just to format JUST to load unslung again :@
Jan 24 23:18:03 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 24 23:18:07 <Reedy_Boy> fdisk is partitioning
Jan 24 23:18:11 <Reedy_Boy> fdisk /dev/sda
Jan 24 23:18:17 <Reedy_Boy> would allow you to view/change partitions
Jan 24 23:19:26 <daveybOy> right, yea i got info about diff partitins on tehre. just need to format them with ext3 now
Jan 24 23:19:53 <Reedy_Boy> mkfs.ext /dev/sda1
Jan 24 23:19:59 <Reedy_Boy> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
Jan 24 23:20:00 <Reedy_Boy> IIRC
Jan 24 23:20:38 <daveybOy> its mounted
Jan 24 23:21:25 <Reedy_Boy> umount /whereveritsmounted
Jan 24 23:21:50 <daveybOy> yea just googled bash command for it.... would it be mounted as /dev/ ?
Jan 24 23:22:21 <Reedy_Boy> that might work.. but the /dev is usually where the OS mounts it
Jan 24 23:22:29 <Reedy_Boy> its a "node"
Jan 24 23:22:34 <Reedy_Boy> you mount it somewhere else
Jan 24 23:22:37 <daveybOy> i done umount /dev/sda1
Jan 24 23:22:55 <Reedy_Boy> did it work?
Jan 24 23:22:57 <Reedy_Boy> if not
Jan 24 23:22:59 <Reedy_Boy> type df
Jan 24 23:23:02 <daveybOy> its formatting yea
Jan 24 23:23:42 <daveybOy> will see if its right in mo, when i try unslinging
Jan 24 23:24:11 <daveybOy> have feeling that my shares beign currupted was something related to the automatic backup that i mentioned earlier
Jan 24 23:24:40 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 24 23:24:41 <Reedy_Boy> maybe
Jan 24 23:24:49 <Reedy_Boy> i couldnt see how that was supposed to work
Jan 24 23:24:55 <Reedy_Boy> it didnt seem to do much
Jan 24 23:26:00 <daveybOy> bloody thing :@ right pain in arse hahah oh well! wasted tonight,. wanted to get web access via ftp to bo x but instead spent most of nigth fannying about with that
Jan 24 23:26:08 <WanderingII> what all do i need to install on my nslu box if i want an itunes server, a file storage server, a print server and sharing videos to devices like a nintendo wii
Jan 24 23:26:22 <WanderingII> i also want to be able to connect to the device from anywhere in the world
Jan 24 23:26:27 <Reedy_Boy> WanderingII, cups for printer...
Jan 24 23:26:31 <Reedy_Boy> SSH for remote access
Jan 24 23:26:51 <Reedy_Boy> file storage - depends on the clients, and what OS - Samba for windows (unless you use unslung, its already there)
Jan 24 23:27:33 <WanderingII> do i need to instal all them things on the box? and whats the best thing to do first? 
Jan 24 23:27:39 <daveybOy> reedy is talking about applications you need to install....but are you askign what OS to put on first?
Jan 24 23:28:56 <Reedy_Boy> mt-daapd is the best for itunes IIRC, but doesnt do movie streaming, so wouldnt do the WII..
Jan 24 23:29:02 <Reedy_Boy> twonkymedia may be more appropriate
Jan 24 23:29:07 <WanderingII> i dont know im trying to find out as much as possible about this box before i start doing anything with it. i want to be able to do them things, i was also under the impression i could conenct my external hard drive to it and enter www.domainofmynetwork.com and log in to access my files remotely?
Jan 24 23:29:36 <Reedy_Boy> externally.. maybe with playing about
Jan 24 23:29:42 <Reedy_Boy> internally yes, thats the idea of the device
Jan 24 23:30:44 <daveybOy> yes u can wandering
Jan 24 23:30:48 <daveybOy> thats what i am setting up
Jan 24 23:31:00 <daveybOy> dnamicdns and port forwarding
Jan 24 23:31:06 <daveybOy> and ftp server
Jan 24 23:31:08 <WanderingII> i know i can get something from dyndns which will point to my network whenever i want as it detects my ip changing and updates itself so alli ever have to know is the url.
Jan 24 23:31:20 <Reedy_Boy> yeah
Jan 24 23:31:25 <Reedy_Boy> FTP is very feasible
Jan 24 23:31:31 <daveybOy> reedy... might have to fricking revert 2 stock fw to format this bloody drive :@:@
Jan 24 23:31:37 <Reedy_Boy> :(
Jan 24 23:31:45 <daveybOy> yea cant figure the bugger out
Jan 24 23:31:50 <Reedy_Boy> just nuke it on windows if theres nothing important on it
Jan 24 23:32:35 <daveybOy> yea did thatm but its the format on unslung fw (running from flash) thats borked, so it cant format it in slug compatable format
Jan 24 23:32:58 <daveybOy> hahaha... 2 much use of the word "format" there !!!
Jan 24 23:34:03 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 24 23:34:14 <WanderingII> so is it fine to use my current drive as is with ntfs formatting as ive 120gb of  data on it or to ensure theres no problems am i better going for a different format?
Jan 24 23:34:33 <daveybOy> go for diff format (i had 2 )
Jan 24 23:34:56 <Reedy_Boy> ideally, something non ntfs would be better.. but you can use NTFS
Jan 24 23:35:03 <daveybOy> unless u only want to READ from disk and not right
Jan 24 23:35:14 <WanderingII> no i want read and write access
Jan 24 23:35:15 <Reedy_Boy> you would just need another memorystick or drive for the system drive
Jan 24 23:35:51 <WanderingII> also want to be able to have full control of my itunes library such as editing tags adding/removin songs etc is this all possible?
Jan 24 23:35:54 <daveybOy> same as me wandering, i had bout 3 weeks head start on where your at now ;) 
Jan 24 23:36:49 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 24 23:36:52 <WanderingII> lol
Jan 24 23:36:59 <Reedy_Boy> WanderingII, that would depend on the auto server you use
Jan 24 23:37:09 <Reedy_Boy> mt-daapd/firefly is designed for itunes
Jan 24 23:37:24 <Reedy_Boy> so presumably, you can edit/tag and such your itunes library and it would all just update accross
Jan 24 23:37:24 <WanderingII> im purchasing one tomorrow as soon as my pay check comes through. could potentially save me a lot of bother and make life so much better for me too.
Jan 24 23:38:12 <WanderingII> i need to network my printer and file storage so this could be excellent.
Jan 24 23:38:25 <daveybOy> ha yea.... but you know its going to end up as another little gadget to tinker with.... but this one ha LOTS of potential ;)
Jan 24 23:38:33 <Reedy_Boy> heh
Jan 24 23:38:44 <Reedy_Boy> Mines running my print server instead of my server 2003 box now
Jan 24 23:38:58 <WanderingII> o i meant to ask, is it possibe to have windows set up so that when someone logs on, they get their user profile from this device , so no matter what computer in the house they use it will be the same?
Jan 24 23:38:58 <Reedy_Boy> a large 500GB MyBook will have my music on to stream to my SoundBridge
Jan 24 23:39:10 <Reedy_Boy> You mean roaming profiles...?
Jan 24 23:39:19 <Reedy_Boy> If you had a FQD yes, for definate
Jan 24 23:39:27 <Reedy_Boy> and hopefully torrents, hey daveybOy ;)
Jan 24 23:39:52 <WanderingII> i dont know what to call them but same shortcuts on desktop same documents in my documents etc. just mite get everyone in the house off my back.
Jan 24 23:40:00 <Reedy_Boy> yeah
Jan 24 23:40:06 <WanderingII> fqd?
Jan 24 23:40:08 <Reedy_Boy> Its roaming profiles - like you may have at work?
Jan 24 23:40:10 <daveybOy> mine serves my xbox (chipped) with all music tv and film on, rorrents d/l straight o hit overnight and also ftp server so i cana ccess files from anywhere 
Jan 24 23:40:14 <Reedy_Boy> FQD = fully qualified domain
Jan 24 23:40:38 <Reedy_Boy> after ive sorted out the FS of my drive.. and my music on it
Jan 24 23:40:39 <daveybOy> ha good boy reedy.... uve seen the light :D
Jan 24 23:40:48 <Reedy_Boy> i've only really got torrents to sort on it
Jan 24 23:41:06 <Reedy_Boy> Then files to transfer from my server 2003 box... then its redundant
Jan 24 23:41:33 <daveybOy> thats my main reason for this box.... promiced i would d/l the misses the whole 40 gig of frieds seasons!!!! ha 
Jan 24 23:41:33 <Reedy_Boy> stop my mum whinging about power usage (ie the NSLU2, WD and the usb hub would be lots less than the machine)
Jan 24 23:41:40 <Reedy_Boy> hah
Jan 24 23:42:12 <Reedy_Boy> And the noise of the box i think disturbed my sleep
Jan 24 23:42:15 <daveybOy> power useage on my pc would be through roof if i left pc on for that long
Jan 24 23:42:22 <Reedy_Boy> haha
Jan 24 23:42:30 <Reedy_Boy> daveybOy, where abouts are you in sheffield? (just for intrest)
Jan 24 23:43:05 <daveybOy> west bar (near shalesmoor) if u know sheff...didnt know u were an brit
Jan 24 23:43:24 <Reedy_Boy> heh, my wikimedia hostmask disguises it
Jan 24 23:43:27 <Reedy_Boy> I live not far from york
Jan 24 23:43:30 <WanderingII> ok tried lookin up this fqd but i dont get it.
Jan 24 23:43:35 <daveybOy> ah fair play :)
Jan 24 23:43:56 <Reedy_Boy> WanderingII, presumably your meaning roaming profiles like you get at schools, uni's, places of work, yeah?
Jan 24 23:44:01 <WanderingII> yes
Jan 24 23:44:05 <Reedy_Boy> Right
Jan 24 23:44:23 <Reedy_Boy> Windows clients?
Jan 24 23:44:57 <WanderingII> yes 
Jan 24 23:45:14 <Reedy_Boy> That is done using roaming profiles, off the back of a windows server... which handles usernames/passwords and the location of the profiles
Jan 24 23:45:18 <daveybOy> JEEZ the bloody windows verison of upslug takes SOOOO long to flash.... still verifying the original links firmware, then got to format
Jan 24 23:45:55 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 24 23:46:07 <Reedy_Boy> http://computertips.toups.info/roaming/RoamingXPPro.htm
Jan 24 23:46:12 <Reedy_Boy> Hmm maybe you dont need a domain..
Jan 24 23:47:30 <WanderingII> say i have the www.wanderingii.com domain for mywebsite. is it possible to create a home.wanderingii.com subdomain and point it to this device?
Jan 24 23:48:07 <Reedy_Boy> yeah... if you have a dynamic IP, it becomes a little more difficult
Jan 24 23:48:09 <Reedy_Boy> but its possible
Jan 24 23:48:27 <WanderingII> ok well i think ill get the box and take it one step at a time.
Jan 24 23:48:27 <daveybOy> dynamicDNS
Jan 24 23:48:36 <daveybOy> register it and download client
Jan 24 23:48:39 <Reedy_Boy> yeah
Jan 24 23:48:51 <Reedy_Boy> but i think they'd have to host your domain to update the subdomain
Jan 24 23:49:44 <WanderingII> ok well thanks for all your help and time its been very beneficial. mite try to keep droppin in here over the next few days. good nite.
Jan 24 23:49:53 <daveybOy> night
Jan 24 23:49:58 <Reedy_Boy> night!
Jan 24 23:51:01 <Reedy_Boy> eno, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/DebianArmEtch - What are the compiling times like..? presumably not overly fast
Jan 24 23:51:28 <Reedy_Boy> but im right in thinking you can use something to make other things do more of the building work?
Jan 24 23:51:48 <eno> Reedy_Boy: that's cross compilation
Jan 24 23:51:57 <eno> so as fast as your PC
Jan 24 23:52:14 <Reedy_Boy> right...
Jan 24 23:52:16 <eno> only depends on the number of packages you want to build
Jan 24 23:52:39 <eno> you can try a build of libtorrent and see how it goes
Jan 24 23:52:40 <Reedy_Boy> I want to get a torrent client on my debian nslu2, but as per that guide, its rather out of date on the debian feed
Jan 24 23:53:19 <Reedy_Boy> rtorrent is
Jan 24 23:53:44 <eno> rtorrent depends on libtorent depends on libsigc++
Jan 24 23:56:15 <Reedy_Boy> That page isnt linked to on the Optware page..
Jan 24 23:57:17 <Reedy_Boy> eno, presuambly to get an optware up to date rtorrent and its dependancies, isnt an overly difficult job?
Jan 24 23:57:35 <eno> not at all
Jan 24 23:57:43 <eno> it's quite up-to-date
Jan 24 23:57:53 <Reedy_Boy> unlike the debian one ;)
Jan 24 23:58:12 <Reedy_Boy> any ideas of the time to build it on the NSLU2 alone (de-underclocked)
Jan 24 23:58:19 <Reedy_Boy> ie is it minutes rather than hours?
Jan 24 23:58:33 <eno> hours, even maybe more than a day
Jan 24 23:58:57 <Reedy_Boy> so using my desktop would be a lot faster (obviously)
Jan 24 23:58:58 <eno> in that case, you really should setup distcc
Jan 25 00:00:22 <eno> that's why optware are mostly cross built
Jan 25 00:00:37 <Reedy_Boy> heh, yeah, can see why
Jan 25 00:00:58 <Reedy_Boy> so, it looks like i can use distcc in cygwin for windows... "distccKNOPPIX" live cd in VMWare... or debian in a VMWare PC that i already have setup
Jan 25 00:01:26 <Reedy_Boy> so distcc just delegates its workload out to other devices?
Jan 25 00:01:35 <eno> yeah
Jan 25 00:02:06 <Reedy_Boy> cool :)
Jan 25 00:02:32 <Reedy_Boy> thanks, you ok if i ping you in the next few days for some help as to how to do it if i get stuck?
Jan 25 00:02:38 <eno> provided all the distcc nodes run compatible version of cc, producing same kind of binaries
Jan 25 00:02:50 <Reedy_Boy> ok
Jan 25 00:02:58 <Reedy_Boy> as ive just got to sort out a hard drive issue on my nslu2... then i can setup for torrenting
Jan 25 00:03:29 <eno> search distcc on nslu2-linux.org
Jan 25 00:03:50 <Reedy_Boy> "UseDistCCWithCrossCompiler" ?
Jan 25 00:04:11 <eno> i even created a page about how to use distcc with optware toolchains
Jan 25 00:05:23 <eno> iirc, joshin's gentoo installation was using distcc
Jan 25 00:05:40 <Reedy_Boy> heh, cool
Jan 25 00:06:09 <Reedy_Boy> presumably, using debian on the NSLU2 and a debian VMWare PC will be a better idea - same versions of things?
Jan 25 00:06:29 <eno> native compilation + distcc is actually easier to be correct than cross compilation
Jan 25 00:06:33 <joshin> It doesn't have to use it but it is a lot faster.  A fattened slug would help the most as the poor thing pages like hell when compiling locally.
Jan 25 00:06:44 <Reedy_Boy> hah
Jan 25 00:07:02 <Reedy_Boy> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/UseDistCCWithCrossCompiler
Jan 25 00:07:10 <Reedy_Boy> Would seem the appropriate guide
Jan 25 00:08:30 <Reedy_Boy> "Cross Host" = PC thats not the NSLU2?
Jan 25 00:08:39 <Reedy_Boy> "armeb host" = NSLU2?
Jan 25 00:08:52 <daveybOy> Reedy, cant i convince u to get it compiled and working with ntorrent for unslung haha
Jan 25 00:09:13 <Reedy_Boy> daveybOy, lol
Jan 25 00:09:29 <Reedy_Boy> if it works on debian, you'll have to move to debian :P
Jan 25 00:10:27 <daveybOy> welll after the shit that unslung has given me, i certainly would concider it!
Jan 25 00:11:07 <daveybOy> only reason im back on unslung now, is i didnt have time to sort it out properly. thats another job for another time
Jan 25 00:12:10 <eno> some problems cannot be solved on unslung, because the old glibc, kernel, and toolchain
Jan 25 00:12:43 <Reedy_Boy> Presumably that would work eno - If i built rtorrent and libraries, they would work for someone else?
Jan 25 00:12:50 <Reedy_Boy> under the same OS etc?
Jan 25 00:13:20 <eno> yes
Jan 25 00:15:22 <Reedy_Boy> there ya go daveybOy ;)
Jan 25 00:15:47 <daveybOy> good lad. get cracking now then ;)
Jan 25 00:18:14 <Reedy_Boy> daveybOy, job for the weekend then me thinks :)
Jan 25 00:18:18 <Reedy_Boy> Thanks again eno :)
Jan 25 00:18:47 <eno> np
Jan 25 00:20:02 <Reedy_Boy> hopefully its one of those thigns, need a helping hand through the first one, then fine to do it myself in future
Jan 25 00:20:58 <eno> it's exactly like that
Jan 25 00:21:15 <Reedy_Boy> :)
Jan 25 00:22:26 <daveybOy> grrr. still cant access my admin1 or admin2 shares from xp, nomatter what user/pass i use
Jan 25 00:23:11 <daveybOy> reedyboy, do me a fav, test if u can log in via ftp from remote location
Jan 25 00:23:33 <Reedy_Boy> sure
Jan 25 00:23:36 <Reedy_Boy> pm me if you want
Jan 25 00:26:33 <Reedy_Boy> daveybOy, ?
Jan 25 00:27:08 <daveybOy> yea
Jan 25 00:27:25 <daveybOy> ah sorry, forfot to identify this nick
Jan 25 00:27:29 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jan 25 00:28:12 <daveyboy_> try now
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