**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 10:59:56 2008 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 12:37:06 2008 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 06 12:37:35 2008 Mar 06 16:46:53 I've just got my first NSLU2, I tried flashing it with debian but it wouldn't connect via ssh. I tried to reinstall the linksys firmware using upslug2 but it keeps timing out, any suggestions? Mar 06 16:47:02 see here for upslug2 output: http://www.caolanmcmahon.com/upslug2_output.txt Mar 06 16:58:15 Hi. Mar 06 16:58:34 I want to use ipkf packes on my fns-1000. I found a tutorial how to use nslu2 packages. Mar 06 16:59:03 I should use http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/ but this page doesn't return any package infromation. It always return "package not found". Is the page broken? Mar 06 18:15:45 hi Mar 06 18:16:32 hello Mar 06 18:47:17 ello Mar 06 18:47:27 hey there drig Mar 06 18:47:30 er... drif Mar 06 18:47:37 :D Mar 06 18:47:42 do you use debian? Mar 06 18:48:00 on slug? or in general? Mar 06 18:48:03 on slug Mar 06 18:48:08 openslug atm Mar 06 18:48:11 dern Mar 06 18:48:28 thougt about installing debian on another slug - still need media for it Mar 06 18:48:31 i was hoping you used debian and vim and knew what was up with the vim not supporting syntax highlighting Mar 06 18:48:47 how did you try to enable it then? Mar 06 18:48:53 :syntax on Mar 06 18:49:10 apparently there's a "vim-lite" that comes with debian Mar 06 18:49:17 when you try to apt-get install vim Mar 06 18:49:21 it's the same thing Mar 06 18:49:27 i want the real deal vim Mar 06 18:49:41 tried :syntax enable? Mar 06 18:49:50 nope Mar 06 18:49:58 if that works i'mma jump off a bridge Mar 06 18:50:13 nope that doesn't work Mar 06 18:50:18 probably not :D do not fear Mar 06 18:50:19 "not available in this version" Mar 06 18:50:39 well, there you have it then Mar 06 18:51:15 tried searching for .vim files? Mar 06 18:53:58 i don't want to mess with that crap... i want a vim that will work just like it does everywhere else right on this here slug Mar 06 18:54:23 mess? I mean if there isn't any .vim files to define syntax with.. Mar 06 18:56:26 tried installing vim-syntax or similar? Mar 06 18:59:16 nope Mar 06 19:13:53 hoopy: check if vim-common is installed Mar 06 19:14:05 you can try apt-get install -y vim Mar 06 19:14:19 ok Mar 06 19:14:27 what does the -y switch do? Mar 06 19:15:07 i don't know, i found someone who told that it worked :) Mar 06 19:15:13 i'm now tryed Mar 06 19:15:15 trying Mar 06 19:15:28 yes ot works with ubuntu Mar 06 19:15:37 so with debian ... Mar 06 19:16:20 it installed me vim-scripts, vim-doc and ctags Mar 06 19:16:44 apt-get install -y vim Mar 06 19:17:30 looka likw rhw apt-get install -y vim is going to do it Mar 06 19:17:35 thank you very much Mar 06 19:17:36 hoopy: apt-get install something -y automatically confirms you want to install it Mar 06 19:17:54 np Mar 06 19:18:12 but i had already doen apt-get install vim and it would tell me i already hve it Mar 06 19:18:17 vim-full is the most complete package of vim, in Debian Mar 06 19:18:18 with the -y switch it just did it Mar 06 19:18:35 vi and vim are default, vim-full isn't Mar 06 19:18:46 that's weird, apt-get install vim should install same packages? Mar 06 19:19:31 Are you guys blind? I just said vim-full is the complete vim package name. Mar 06 19:19:39 vim-full - Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - full fledged version Mar 06 19:20:39 i didn't seen your msg when i wrote mine :) Mar 06 19:21:16 i never installed vim-full on my slug, because it require 100 MB, it's too much for vim i think Mar 06 19:24:03 yeah i don't need no 100MB install either Mar 06 19:25:00 yay syntax highlighting! Mar 06 19:25:00 re Mar 06 19:25:10 erm, how does screen work? Mar 06 19:25:28 do i have to start the session manually before i start a tool? Mar 06 19:26:22 hoopy: with vim-full so? Mar 06 19:26:44 hld: you type screen in your console, then Mar 06 19:27:00 not with vim-full Mar 06 19:27:03 you do what you and, and press ctrl+d (for detach) Mar 06 19:27:06 just apt-get install -y vim Mar 06 19:27:25 hld: then you can come back in your screen sessions with screen -r Mar 06 19:27:38 ah, oke, i'll try. thank you Mar 06 19:27:45 i've found screen to be difficult to explain Mar 06 19:27:45 hld: in you have several screen launched, it will asks you which session restore Mar 06 19:27:51 but's indeed very very cool Mar 06 19:27:51 eg. screen -r 2342 Mar 06 19:28:16 hld: you can set a name to your screen session too: screen -S name Mar 06 19:28:27 good luck ;) Mar 06 19:28:54 hoopy: yes it's a good and light one Mar 06 19:29:08 okay so i have debian on my slug... what if i want to install debian onto a larger flash disk? Mar 06 19:29:13 am i s.o.l.? Mar 06 19:29:19 sol? Mar 06 19:29:24 shit out of lucjk Mar 06 19:29:43 :) Mar 06 19:29:47 do i have to use something like upslug to get the debian installer firmware flashed back onto the slug? Mar 06 19:29:48 so i'm running my app now... crtl+D doesn't do anything ;/ Mar 06 19:29:58 you want copy your debian partition or just create a new one? Mar 06 19:30:01 press ctrl+a then ctrl+d Mar 06 19:30:10 aah, thanks Mar 06 19:30:10 either/or Mar 06 19:30:30 hld: mini d, for ctrl+d Mar 06 19:30:56 hoopy: there are some modifications to do if you want using a usb key Mar 06 19:31:18 for saving it from death (caused by reads/writes) Mar 06 19:31:26 yeah i read that Mar 06 19:31:41 movign the swap partition etc Mar 06 19:32:04 i just want to put a smaller (physically) and larger (data wise) usb drive on the slug Mar 06 19:32:16 right now i have a 1GB mini cruzer hanging out the back Mar 06 19:32:38 what is the problem, if you've found the doc? Mar 06 19:32:39 :) Mar 06 19:32:53 well does it address upgrading storage like that? Mar 06 19:33:06 here's a question: what happens if i take the drive off and start the slug? Mar 06 19:33:22 if its debian, it wont boot Mar 06 19:33:28 it's debian Mar 06 19:33:44 i want to install debian onto a larger usb key Mar 06 19:33:58 easiest way is to reflash the OS image, and reinstall Mar 06 19:34:08 or maybe do a dd copy of flash drive to the larger one Mar 06 19:34:40 i might just do that Mar 06 19:34:54 mount format and copy it over Mar 06 19:35:03 dd is the easiest way... Mar 06 19:35:19 dd it and after that try to resize the partition and all people are happy :) Mar 06 19:35:47 how would i reflash the os image Mar 06 19:36:09 it's that "hold the reset button for 10secs" thing Mar 06 19:38:00 and then you use upslug from there Mar 06 19:38:10 ...i wonder if upslug works for OS X (my other machine is a mac) Mar 06 19:38:31 apparently it "works well on os x" Mar 06 19:38:33 neat Mar 06 19:39:08 i might say screw flash all-together and put a 80GB external i have floating around on it Mar 06 19:39:31 hoopy: with power adapter? Mar 06 19:39:42 no-- it's bus powered Mar 06 19:39:47 hoopy: had probs using usb-power Mar 06 19:39:54 crumb. Mar 06 19:40:41 certain drives draw more power than slug can provide :-\ it seems - there's something on wiki as well Mar 06 19:41:03 drive seems to work ok - but every not and then something nasty occures Mar 06 19:41:09 not=now Mar 06 19:41:13 like what? Mar 06 19:41:14 data loss? Mar 06 19:41:24 things like that, yes Mar 06 19:41:29 eff that Mar 06 19:41:47 glad to corrupt your system, eh? :D Mar 06 19:41:56 hoopy: but the inverse is possible too: you can power your slug with usb, and i works well ;D Mar 06 19:42:01 i don't like data correction Mar 06 19:42:08 it works well* Mar 06 19:42:15 power the slug with usb? Mar 06 19:42:23 * hoopy confuzzled Mar 06 19:42:24 yes Mar 06 19:42:30 how do you power the unit with usb? Mar 06 19:42:42 and... why would you want to do such a thing? Mar 06 19:42:45 the slug don't use a lot of power Mar 06 19:42:51 i know that much Mar 06 19:42:52 i don't know :) Mar 06 19:42:57 5v Mar 06 19:43:07 ARM cpu draws very low power Mar 06 19:43:09 yes, and 0.00001w Mar 06 19:43:13 ^^ Mar 06 19:43:48 yell, if you use your power adaptater on your disk, and can supply your slug, and you don't need one power AD more Mar 06 19:45:39 holla Mar 06 19:45:50 btw dirf: solved every problem now ^^ Mar 06 19:46:14 it's just a a few oneliner scripts that solve the problem :) Mar 06 19:46:34 hld: using puppy now? Mar 06 19:46:37 yup Mar 06 19:47:07 made a script that takes the puppy list and only backups the files that are new or from today Mar 06 19:47:32 now i want to make it a cronjob, but i'm searching for a way to remotely start the toppy at 5 in the night :) Mar 06 19:47:43 or to start it when the backup should begin Mar 06 19:48:21 rig infrared emitter? ;) Mar 06 19:48:32 heh, was my first thought, too Mar 06 19:48:56 I had similar setup, used my squeezebox and infrared-adapter Mar 06 19:49:08 but i bet there's a plugin for the toppy that starts him at a given time Mar 06 19:50:37 starts what? no power - no usb negotiation Mar 06 19:50:49 ah, you men top Mar 06 19:50:52 mean Mar 06 19:51:05 what does puppy do? Mar 06 19:51:09 yes, there are few .tap files for taht Mar 06 19:51:18 but that's the only solution I can think of Mar 06 19:51:45 probably reguire registration Mar 06 19:51:59 hoopy: transfer files from topfield Mar 06 19:52:12 hoopy: which is DVB recorder Mar 06 20:03:08 yep, need a larger drive on this thing. i've already used 72% of the disk and i got it up and running around 13 hours ago Mar 06 21:03:49 is there any good reasons not to use openwrt for my nslu2 ? i'm new to this; but it looks like it'll work for me.. because it looks like i can run asterisk without an external drive Mar 06 21:05:14 a slug as a pbx... interesting Mar 06 21:14:46 drif: which tap do u mean? what name? ^^ Mar 06 21:16:52 hld: hehe, some reactions ;) Mar 06 21:23:12 hld: try http://www.tapworld.net/content/view/225/29/ Mar 06 21:25:03 hld: also some more popular software like JAG's EPG I might have had that feature implemented Mar 06 21:28:40 ha, that's the tap where i got the idea from this afternoon ^^ Mar 06 21:28:55 haven't tested it yet, though Mar 06 21:30:38 check also improbox and plasmaEPG Mar 06 21:32:04 hld: and PBK (ProgressBarKeys) Mar 06 21:33:31 improbox is some sort of shareware i think Mar 06 21:33:54 many are Mar 06 21:34:16 also one way of course is just to schedule in 'view' mode Mar 06 21:34:17 hmmm, you know an easy way to convert .recs to dvd or normal program stream? Mar 06 21:34:25 hld: projectX Mar 06 21:36:05 sorry people the offtopic, will switch to private messages.. Mar 07 00:15:40 how do i get my nslu2 to be a 'video server' ? Mar 07 00:16:21 it looks like it'll be an audio server with a USB sound card Mar 07 00:16:29 is that correct? Mar 07 00:17:16 would i have to buy some media player device ? Mar 07 00:17:50 is there any media player device that i can install linux onto ? Mar 07 00:17:52 define video server Mar 07 00:17:57 drif: yea, i'm not sure Mar 07 00:18:51 you are able to purchase for example usb dvb-card and stream it to network - that kinda setup? Mar 07 00:19:10 oh awesome Mar 07 00:19:14 *looking up usb dvb-card right now Mar 07 00:21:13 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/WhatPeopleAreReallyUsingTheirSlugsFor Mar 07 00:21:18 there might be some hints Mar 07 00:21:25 tyhanks Mar 07 00:24:05 there;s only one mention of a dvb card on that page Mar 07 00:24:41 true, and another I found concerns analog WinTV PVR USB2 Mar 07 00:29:15 i'm thinking about just getting an xbox or something Mar 07 00:29:56 xbox? how would that solve things? Mar 07 00:30:05 can you get dvb receiver for it? Mar 07 00:30:06 looks like UPnP stuff works... Mar 07 00:30:12 ushare on nslu2 Mar 07 01:48:45 alright Mar 07 01:49:07 drif you here? Mar 07 02:00:56 v yup Mar 07 02:01:03 yup Mar 07 02:03:40 hey how ya doin Mar 07 02:04:26 got a little question here... i bought a larger USB drive to use on my slug. I'm running debian and I'm wanting to use the dd/clone method to move my stuff from the smaller drive to the larger Mar 07 02:05:32 i'm wanting to format the disk and i can't believe this thing doesn't come with the ext3 tools since it is using ext3 Mar 07 02:06:00 there's no mkfs.ext3? Mar 07 02:06:03 nope Mar 07 02:06:19 you have pc laying around? Mar 07 02:06:30 i have a mac Mar 07 02:06:41 hm, do you get any liveCD linux for it? Mar 07 02:06:51 this in order to format the disk? Mar 07 02:06:53 well, doesn't mac handle ext3 actually Mar 07 02:07:26 nope Mar 07 02:08:53 http://www.sampletheweb.com/2004/12/03/how-to-set-up-an-nslu2-with-a-mac-for-dummies-like-me/ Mar 07 02:08:56 not sure if this helps Mar 07 02:09:13 i already have an nslu2 going Mar 07 02:09:19 i'm using irssi right now on it Mar 07 02:09:39 i'm just trying to swap the drives Mar 07 02:09:48 there is a wiki article about how to do this Mar 07 02:09:58 but i need to have the drive formatted as ext3 to get going Mar 07 02:10:48 hm, I wonder why - if you're going to use dd afterall Mar 07 02:11:05 you think it should work w/o doing that? Mar 07 02:11:13 well, dd replaces everything Mar 07 02:11:56 so if your partition is in any format possible - it will become exactly in the format the source was Mar 07 02:12:18 show me the url of the guide Mar 07 02:13:00 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SwapDrivesOnUnslung Mar 07 02:13:36 where does it say it has to be formatted in ext3? Mar 07 02:13:43 step 1? Mar 07 02:14:09 you can create partitions with fdisk Mar 07 02:14:23 fdisk isn't on here... Mar 07 02:14:33 i'll install it Mar 07 02:15:44 so which firmware you were using? Mar 07 02:15:49 just to make sure Mar 07 02:16:07 i'm using the debian w/ the unofficial driver for the intel ethernet Mar 07 02:16:34 ok, and you know how the dd syntax works? :D so you're not just blindly following the guide.. Mar 07 02:16:53 well i'm not super up on it Mar 07 02:17:02 if is source, of destination Mar 07 02:17:10 bs is block isze Mar 07 02:17:26 well, you know atleast that you need to do dd for every parition you got? not only on those two unslung users often have Mar 07 02:17:45 like I said, just to make sure Mar 07 02:17:53 the other question i have is that i have /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1, 2, 4 Mar 07 02:18:02 yes? Mar 07 02:18:07 there aren't enough things showing up for sda Mar 07 02:18:13 only sda and sda1 Mar 07 02:18:31 well, do you have more partitions then? Mar 07 02:18:34 when i cat /etc/fstab Mar 07 02:18:42 only sdb2 and sdb5 are being used Mar 07 02:19:01 i mean 5 instead of 4 in the list above Mar 07 03:58:28 does anyone here use one of those Hauppauge WinTV usb things? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 07 06:24:49 2008 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 07 10:59:56 2008