**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 13 02:59:57 2008 Mar 13 11:11:04 ugh Mar 13 11:11:09 quiet Mar 13 11:53:45 hey Nightwolf Mar 13 11:55:30 hi Mar 13 11:56:33 do you use rtorrent ? Mar 13 12:02:16 yes Mar 13 12:02:44 hrm. Mar 13 12:02:50 i can't get it to work with the xmlrpc Mar 13 12:03:01 that is, none of the web/java interfaces for it Mar 13 12:03:09 i have it working ok Mar 13 12:03:16 i also couldn't set up a build-env for unslung Mar 13 12:03:19 can you help please ? Mar 13 12:04:27 oh, i dont use unslung Mar 13 12:04:43 and i spent/wasted a week trying to setup a build env for debianslug Mar 13 12:04:48 and gave up ;-) Mar 13 12:04:55 i wasnt smart enough Mar 13 12:05:12 how about rtorrent ? Mar 13 12:05:17 you used apt-get ? Mar 13 12:05:24 initially yes Mar 13 12:05:32 but i wanted encryption support Mar 13 12:05:43 so i managed to compile lib/rtorrent on the slug itself Mar 13 12:06:00 hrm. iscompiling the slug fast enough? Mar 13 12:06:04 however, nowadays there is a few people doing pretty regular builds of rtorrent for debian nslu2 Mar 13 12:06:09 took all night for me Mar 13 12:06:19 lol. Mar 13 12:06:26 should i move to debianslug ? Mar 13 12:06:37 i love debian on my slug Mar 13 12:06:45 seems to be a bit more 'complicated' to control it Mar 13 12:06:57 not in my opinion (its easier) Mar 13 12:07:00 web interfaces which do the small dirty work usually work fine Mar 13 12:07:07 atleast for teh basic stuff Mar 13 12:07:35 well, this isnt my opinion Mar 13 12:08:07 are the apt-get the same as debian's ? Mar 13 12:08:11 yup Mar 13 12:08:15 it is debian Mar 13 12:08:24 i always though unsung should be faster/ more compact Mar 13 12:08:32 since it's compiled for embedded Mar 13 12:08:41 im not the expert. Mar 13 12:08:44 slugs are slow anyway Mar 13 12:08:53 which debian's codebase is usually compiled for full rhobust pc's Mar 13 12:09:02 debian on my slug is fine for rtorrent/samba/streamining music and video/irc/apache Mar 13 12:10:15 what do you stream ? Mar 13 12:10:18 to Mar 13 12:10:33 xbmc, roku and lan pc's Mar 13 12:10:47 whats roku ? Mar 13 12:10:54 google Mar 13 12:10:54 oh, the python script ? Mar 13 12:14:36 hrm. Mar 13 12:14:52 what do I need to setup first thing when installing debian? Mar 13 12:15:02 ? Mar 13 12:15:14 and howtough would it be to upgrade Mar 13 12:15:23 i just followed the wiki install guide Mar 13 12:15:32 if you can read, you've got a good chance Mar 13 12:15:57 unslung didnt work for me, for some reason Mar 13 12:16:04 which is why i originally chose debian Mar 13 12:34:17 i'd still want to get rtorrenton unslung Mar 13 12:34:27 since i dont want to upgrade now Mar 13 12:43:10 whats the diff between debian fornslu firmware and slugOS ? Mar 13 12:45:06 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/FirmwareMatrix Mar 13 12:46:01 yeah I'm there.. Mar 13 12:46:06 thats why I'm asking Mar 13 12:46:18 hrm. isee slugos is the way to go Mar 13 12:46:28 but which one ?LE or BE ? Mar 13 12:51:53 well ? Mar 13 12:56:46 You are demanding that I choose your firmware for you? Mar 13 12:56:51 no Mar 13 12:56:53 Ok, SlugOS/BE then. Mar 13 12:56:57 i'm asking how I should choose Mar 13 12:57:17 i don't know what the difference between the two is Mar 13 12:57:45 Then go with SlugOS/BE Mar 13 12:57:50 Or Debian Mar 13 12:58:13 why BE if may I ask ? Mar 13 12:59:05 Compatible with Unslung, allowing you to run optware applications if you set up correctly to do so. Mar 13 13:00:14 oh. right. Mar 13 13:00:29 good idea, haven't thought of that Mar 13 13:14:29 what steps do i need to take to upgrade from unslung to slugos? Mar 13 13:14:41 i mean, overwriting firmware is clear Mar 13 13:14:50 but on the harddrive? Mar 13 13:16:02 partition wise Mar 13 13:17:28 should i go for beta slugos 4.8 ? Mar 13 13:18:03 it seemsso. Mar 13 13:18:54 ido-: backup the datas and reformatt the disk. Mar 13 13:19:02 how do i backup ? Mar 13 13:19:11 or morespecific, what exactly to backup Mar 13 13:20:00 ido-: with the keyboard digit the nslu2-linux.org and search there for how to article, i hope you luky, if you fail return here maybe :) Mar 13 13:20:32 i'mreadingatm Mar 13 13:20:37 no guide on what to backup Mar 13 13:20:41 or atleast haventfound one Mar 13 13:24:35 the basic is copy all the external hd contents to anothe pc Mar 13 13:26:11 oh no Mar 13 13:26:13 cant do that Mar 13 13:26:18 500gb almost full Mar 13 13:27:02 a cd or dvd? Mar 13 13:27:13 500gb is over 100 dvd's.. Mar 13 13:27:40 uhhmm.. yes yes.. Mar 13 13:27:48 isnt possible Mar 13 13:27:56 eh. right. Mar 13 13:28:08 and a net backup? Mar 13 13:29:29 nope. Mar 13 13:29:40 i' Mar 13 13:29:52 ll just be careful not to format the data partition Mar 13 13:30:44 i'm just not sure what to backup.. Mar 13 13:30:54 or resize it with a disk management sw Mar 13 13:31:45 creating a different partition for the datas Mar 13 13:31:58 and the system files Mar 13 13:33:25 i've got a 128mb partition for sda2 and sda3/swap Mar 13 13:33:37 and the sda1/root is the rest Mar 13 13:48:50 ok off we go openslug Mar 13 14:10:40 how much bytes free on the /root patition? Mar 13 15:48:41 hey Mar 13 15:48:43 i need some help Mar 13 15:49:03 howto install openslug on a partition which already has data (no os though) Mar 13 15:49:11 it is set as active Mar 13 15:49:41 but turnup disk -i /dev/sda1 -f -t ext3 gives an error Mar 13 16:04:02 hey Mar 13 16:05:02 ugh i really need some help Mar 13 16:24:57 hrm Mar 13 16:25:04 seems the wiki is outdated Mar 13 16:55:05 ido: which parts? (that's no news though) Mar 13 17:10:15 ido-: try without -i and use -s5 Mar 13 17:11:33 although the latter is not necessary helps with drive detection on boot though Mar 13 20:03:34 'lo Mar 13 20:03:52 hr. Mar 13 20:04:00 hrm. anyone with rtorrent working ? Mar 13 20:08:27 ballsed it up? Mar 13 20:10:08 ido: so you got the turnup working? Mar 13 20:23:05 hi, I'm trying to flash my nslu2 with SlugOSBE-4.8-beta-firmware.zip and get the following error....SlugOSBE-4.8-beta-firmware.zip: failed while reading data from file: fatal error [std::exception] Mar 13 20:23:27 This is on a gentoo system, I've remerged upslug2 and the version is NSLU2 00:1d:7e:aa:c6:d5 Product ID: 1 Protocol ID: 0 Firmware Version: R23V24 [0x2324] Mar 13 20:23:44 You *did* unzip it first? Mar 13 20:23:56 ^^ Mar 13 20:24:24 errrr, I feel somewhat stupid now, sorry peeps Mar 13 20:24:24 PPmarcel, :P Mar 13 20:24:28 lmfao Mar 13 20:25:15 at least I've brightened up one persons evening :D Mar 13 20:25:28 haha Mar 13 20:27:23 hmm, however I am still getting an error. Trying to simply verify only first with.... upslug2 -v -t 00:1D:7E:AA:C6:D5 -i slugosbe-4.8-beta-nslu2.bin Mar 13 20:27:43 is it the same error? Mar 13 20:28:12 very similar...00:1D:7E:AA:C6:D5: flash verification error (address 0x60000, length 1472) [std::exception] Mar 13 20:28:33 full output at http://pastebin.com/mee87ec6 Mar 13 20:29:48 and if you try to start your nslu2? Mar 13 20:29:56 is someone interested in being a moderator at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/? please contact group owner. what is needed is take a look 1-2) evry day and deny or allow msg:s. I need vacation from that=). Thanks. Mar 13 20:29:59 does it works? Mar 13 20:30:20 oh thats definately started, its sat there with the Ready/Status light flashing Red/Green Mar 13 20:30:40 and I can see it on my network from the routers DHCP client page Mar 13 20:31:38 slack---line: you say it flash red/green -> loke upgrade mode? Mar 13 20:31:41 like* Mar 13 20:32:22 yep, as per instructions at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/UpSlug2 and http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheResetButtonToEnterUpgradeMode Mar 13 20:32:41 janne-5011, do people get whitelisted on that after a period? Mar 13 20:33:43 slack---line: i meant, if you start it normally, does slugOS run? Mar 13 20:34:39 PPmarcel: I haven't managed an upgrade yet so SlugOS isn't running on it yet, or do you mean try flashing with the SlugOS firmware in normal mode? Mar 13 20:35:45 slack---line: no. Your uplug2 has uploaded the firmware, the problem is at the checkfiles Mar 13 20:35:57 maybe the firmware can works Mar 13 20:36:03 Reedy_boy nope Mar 13 20:36:30 Reedy_BoyAre you intrested? Mar 13 20:36:33 thought it did Mar 13 20:36:48 May aswell, yeah, i'll have time most days to do it Mar 13 20:36:51 slack---line: maybe the file is corrupted Mar 13 20:36:54 I cant see no way return from a ban Mar 13 20:37:03 slack---line: are you interested by gentoo on your slug? Mar 13 20:37:03 janne-5011, i mean, its not like im an unfamiliar face around here ;) Mar 13 20:37:55 good.if you got contact with listowner please inform me. so I take vacation. I did it long time and need time for other things, Mar 13 20:38:24 janne-5011, who is it? mike/rod/someone else? Mar 13 20:38:30 PPmarcel: hey, long time no see :) Mar 13 20:38:41 oh yes otom :) Mar 13 20:38:44 PPmarcel: it won't (or shouldn't) have uploaded yet as I've used the -v flag to only verify, but will have a go without, already aiming to install gentoo on the slug and preped the external HD the other day whilst waiting for the slug to arrive Mar 13 20:38:47 whats important dont allow linux-related question to much. give link to nslu2-linux instead. and delete spam. Mar 13 20:38:50 i wait for helping you Mar 13 20:39:00 finally got the FTP transfers to work with ProFTPD Mar 13 20:39:16 but i've got probs with creating virtual users Mar 13 20:39:30 slack---line: try without -v Mar 13 20:39:52 uplslugs check the file even without this option. Maybe it change a setting Mar 13 20:40:02 PPmarcel: running now, fingers crossed :) Mar 13 20:40:07 ok :) Mar 13 20:40:12 Reedy_Boy nslu2-general-owner@yahoogroups.com Mar 13 20:40:22 but tbh, i'm not enough specialist to really help you :) Mar 13 20:40:44 otom: i never used proftd. Is it a good software? Mar 13 20:41:14 PPmarcel: looks liuke things have owrked its now rebooting :D Mar 13 20:41:27 :DD Mar 13 20:41:28 s/liuke/like/ Mar 13 20:41:29 Reedy_Boy the owner got another maill but never reply. hope that works Mar 13 20:41:48 PPmarcel: eh i'm not really the right one to ask :P it works as it should, but to create virtual users i need some kinda perl script called ftpasswd Mar 13 20:41:58 slack---line: you have to compile each programms witn gentoo? Mar 13 20:42:06 PPmarcel: cheers for the tips, on with the gentoo install :) Mar 13 20:42:21 don't foret that with the nslu2, you may need some hours to compile one package Mar 13 20:42:27 PPmarcel: no theres a stage3 install you can use, I'm following http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Linksys_NSLU2 Mar 13 20:42:41 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Linksys_NSLU2#Building_a_basic_working_Gentoo_root Mar 13 20:42:50 ...that gets most of the software you'll need for a base system Mar 13 20:42:55 if you want, you can use a special firmware from gentoo wiiki, here: Mar 13 20:42:57 http://gentoo-wiki.com/Gentoo_on_NSLU2#Installation Mar 13 20:43:18 :) aye thats what I've been working from Mar 13 20:43:31 could you say me if it werks well? Mar 13 20:43:41 i intend to test it maybe, in future Mar 13 20:44:27 yep, will do have been writing down the order and things that I've been doing too, so far nothing of note different, just got to setup the slug to boot from the drive now (assuming the slugos firmware has installed ok) Mar 13 20:45:06 it seems that you can install gentoo without slugOS Mar 13 20:45:29 yeah, you just use SlugOS to boot from the connected USB HD Mar 13 20:45:59 you mean that slugos is in flash, and launch getoo on usbdisk? Mar 13 20:46:40 yep thats how I understand it Mar 13 20:47:04 ok :) Mar 13 20:47:27 firmware upgrade has worked have ssh'd in, going to crack on and see if I can get things working, will let you know how it goes, cheers for the help Mar 13 21:15:11 hi@all Mar 13 21:15:16 here i go again Mar 13 21:15:24 with news Mar 13 21:15:51 i've tested NFS with win XP now Mar 13 21:16:04 Did you find it slow for browsing? Mar 13 21:16:06 you wouldn't beleve Mar 13 21:16:10 IT WORKS Mar 13 21:16:23 It works in vista too asa, ultimate includes an addon for it Mar 13 21:16:24 no, ist as fast as under linux Mar 13 21:16:49 for XP you need the "Windows Services for UNIX" Mar 13 21:16:50 what client/software are you usding? Mar 13 21:16:53 Ah, yeah Mar 13 21:17:08 available on the MS download page Mar 13 21:17:38 after many hours, i find out how to get it to work Mar 13 21:17:46 it just worked on vista Mar 13 21:17:47 suprisingly Mar 13 21:18:14 vista has a "services for NFS" - i couldnt install windows services for unix, as im on 64bit Mar 13 21:19:16 the for WSfU documentation is dirt-poor Mar 13 21:20:35 asa, http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/message/7108 Mar 13 21:20:41 yeah, the browsing was shitty Mar 13 21:20:44 i couldnt remember Mar 13 21:21:50 the problem was the mapping of users Mar 13 21:22:15 heya Mar 13 21:22:18 hrm. Mar 13 21:22:19 back Mar 13 21:22:28 regarding rtorrent, anyone? Mar 13 21:22:29 is NFS built in on vista? Mar 13 21:22:44 i've changed to openslug Mar 13 21:24:35 so now all my problems are solved. nfs is much faster then samba on the slug Mar 13 21:24:44 really ? Mar 13 21:24:49 how much faster ? Mar 13 21:25:29 samba: upload 1.7MB/s download 2.2MB/s Mar 13 21:25:51 really ? what firmware ? Mar 13 21:25:57 nfs: upload 4.3MB/s download 6.2MB/s Mar 13 21:26:00 what program ? Mar 13 21:26:08 unslung 6.10 Mar 13 21:26:14 asa, ultimate includes it, yeah Mar 13 21:26:16 i think business does too Mar 13 21:26:18 please remember on the nfs thingy for vista/xp to add how to in the wiki. Mar 13 21:26:20 but not the home versions Mar 13 21:26:25 i got around 3.5/4.5 with unslung on samba Mar 13 21:26:40 hey Reedy_Boy Mar 13 21:26:41 janne-5011, vista it is only use the components thing to add it, then map it like you would a samba share Mar 13 21:27:08 with openslug, i should first always search for ipkg, then /opt/bin/ipkg, right? Mar 13 21:27:11 ok..I got vista ult. Mar 13 21:28:12 but its good add howto.s to wiki so the wheel no need invent again Mar 13 21:29:34 janne-5011, yeah, its included Mar 13 21:29:43 =) Mar 13 21:30:01 if you go to control panel, programs and features, then "turn windows features on and off" Mar 13 21:30:19 ido-, whatya mean? Mar 13 21:30:22 see if it exists first? Mar 13 21:30:43 janne-5011, i'll start a page Mar 13 21:30:49 XP home works to Mar 13 21:30:49 there is an fix Mar 13 21:30:49 waait, i look for it Mar 13 21:31:00 hmmm Mar 13 21:31:06 i've tryed so mutch, i don't know the rigt way. Mar 13 21:31:08 but i have to add nfs on my kids pc's at weekend Mar 13 21:31:12 then i document it step by step Mar 13 21:31:14 where is the wiki? Mar 13 21:31:35 services for nfs Mar 13 21:31:39 found it Mar 13 21:32:48 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/HomePage' Mar 13 21:34:38 asa, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/NFSonVista Mar 13 21:34:38 Please add the XP info ;) Mar 13 21:37:04 added to favs Mar 13 21:37:07 nn Mar 13 21:37:56 i didn't ever add something in a wiki. i don't know how Mar 13 21:37:58 hrm Mar 13 21:38:06 anywho Mar 13 21:38:07 would you do it for me? Mar 13 21:38:17 i'm getting 'rtorrent: Fault occured while inserting xmlrpc call.' Mar 13 21:38:18 her the description Mar 13 21:38:29 when setting the scgi_local Mar 13 21:38:37 SfU on WinXP Home:# Mar 13 21:38:48 - Take a hexeditor. Mar 13 21:38:49 - Go to the directory where SFU has been extracted. Mar 13 21:38:49 - Take file "SfuSetup.msi". Mar 13 21:38:49 - Make a backup copy of it, just in case you commit an error... Mar 13 21:38:49 - Open the file "SfuSetup.msi" in a hexeditor. Mar 13 21:38:49 - Search for string "NOT (VersionNT = 501 AND MsiNTSuitePersonal)" Mar 13 21:38:51 - Change 501 to 510 Mar 13 21:38:53 - Do not forget to click safe. Mar 13 21:39:31 that's all Mar 13 21:40:37 cool Mar 13 21:41:11 the sorta stuff that should be on the wiki ;) Mar 13 21:41:15 hmm. Mar 13 21:41:37 my englisch is too poor to write a howto :( Mar 13 21:41:59 is there an german wiki? Mar 13 21:42:14 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/NFSonVista Mar 13 21:42:29 Crap Mar 13 21:42:40 indeed crap. Mar 13 21:42:49 quick question about booting from an external HD...I've already installed a stage3 install and want to boot from it, when I root@slug:~$ turnup disk -i /dev/sda3 I'm aksed......turnup: /dev/sda3: partition contains existing files, specify -f to overwrite what files are going to be over-written here? Mar 13 21:42:52 Can someone move that page to Mar 13 21:42:52 NFSonWindows Mar 13 21:42:52 where it really should be? Mar 13 21:42:54 i cant seem to be able to get xmlrpc to work Mar 13 21:43:29 whats the difference between /opt/bin/ipkg and /opt/bin/ipkg-opt Mar 13 21:43:49 hrm. same thing Mar 13 21:44:12 ido-: what firmware? Mar 13 21:45:24 slugos Mar 13 21:45:41 damnit, i'm workinglike half a day on this Mar 13 21:45:52 (and trying to set up the build env for unslung) Mar 13 21:46:11 eno, can you delete/move wikipages? Mar 13 21:47:00 ido-: according to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RtorrentWithRemoteGUI Mar 13 21:47:13 xmlrpc does not work on unslung or slugosbe Mar 13 21:47:17 asa: windows sfu!!! Mar 13 21:47:20 i tryed it Mar 13 21:47:22 why not ? Mar 13 21:47:40 hmm, reading it looks like it could be /dev that will be over-written, but not sure --> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp Mar 13 21:47:53 buggy software, maybe related to endian? Mar 13 21:47:59 PPmarcel: it works Mar 13 21:48:06 really? Mar 13 21:48:10 yes Mar 13 21:48:19 and what are speeds? Mar 13 21:48:21 works in vista, just slow for browsing for me Mar 13 21:48:22 if someone with slugosle can test rtorrent xmlrpc, that would give more clue Mar 13 21:48:25 with a lot of trye and error :) Mar 13 21:48:31 Its faster than Samba Mar 13 21:48:39 damnit. Mar 13 21:48:41 it is like nfs on linux Mar 13 21:48:41 PPmarcel, debian - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/message/7108 Mar 13 21:48:54 i just installed slugosbe for this Mar 13 21:48:57 maybe 0.1-0.2 MB/s slower Mar 13 21:49:32 install nfs on XP is not the problem Mar 13 21:49:41 it's to map the users Mar 13 21:49:48 I just made it everyone... Mar 13 21:49:49 haha Mar 13 21:49:49 ido-: maybe you can try slugosle Mar 13 21:50:03 brr. Mar 13 21:50:03 hmm... seems the speeds were better on NFS to debian Mar 13 21:50:10 Reedy_Boy: sorry, i dunno how to move delete wiki pages Mar 13 21:50:19 i have to install it on my kids pc's on weekend. then i make screenshots and a documentation Mar 13 21:50:23 can i keep my /etc dir from slugosBE ? Mar 13 21:50:47 i suggest that because so far the known working platforms for rtorrent xmlrpc are all little endian Mar 13 21:50:51 asa: i'm interested by your doc Mar 13 21:50:57 you will write it in the wiki? Mar 13 21:51:39 i'll try Mar 13 21:51:43 PPmarcel: any idea what files get over-written by turnup when it gives this message...."turnup: /dev/sda3: partition contains existing files, specify -f to overwrite" Mar 13 21:52:11 format this partition? Mar 13 21:52:18 else i can send you the doc. somebody have to corect it anyway. Mar 13 21:52:19 slack---line: turnup -i -f /dev/sda3 Mar 13 21:52:22 it'll work Mar 13 21:52:59 ok, but is it just /dev that willbe overwritten as per http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp ??? Mar 13 21:53:18 if you do a -f it should overwrite files that arne't system ones Mar 13 21:53:29 eg: not private dirs such as /public or something Mar 13 21:53:36 it wol be full of mistakes in writing and grammar :) Mar 13 21:53:48 but you should make a backup do be on the safe side Mar 13 21:53:55 i used this -f today, and it worked fine.. Mar 13 21:54:34 ido-: no private files on there yet, all I've done is install a stage3 gentoo as per http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Linksys_NSLU2 so won't be too much of a problem even if it does screw things up, knowing its not going to overwrite the system files is what I was after :) Mar 13 21:55:42 eno: how do i know if an executable is suitable for slugLE orBE ? Mar 13 21:55:55 what for are the "?" in the wiki? Mar 13 21:56:02 file /path/to/executable Mar 13 21:56:04 "WinXP?" Mar 13 21:56:34 windows XP? Mar 13 21:56:49 oh it auto links with somethings Mar 13 21:56:53 but there are no pages there Mar 13 21:56:58 aha Mar 13 21:57:17 make a "www.microsoft.com" ;) Mar 13 21:58:38 * kolla sobs Mar 13 21:58:42 my slug is ill Mar 13 21:59:03 need medicine? Mar 13 21:59:13 it keeps resetting after finding usb ports Mar 13 21:59:20 even when there's nothing in them Mar 13 21:59:39 nah.. now it went on, hm Mar 13 21:59:52 I suspect the power supply, actually Mar 13 22:00:12 I need to put up a 5V grid for all my embedded stuff Mar 13 22:00:16 fingers crossed, here goes with a reboot :^ Mar 13 22:01:06 hm, if the hdd on port2 of the slug is sda, then what is the hdd on port1 ? Mar 13 22:01:08 mf... what is the default password of slugos? Mar 13 22:01:28 activity on the external hdd, looking good Mar 13 22:02:10 hrm. Mar 13 22:02:14 ok, so no xml-rpc Mar 13 22:02:22 what are my options for web interface for torrents ? Mar 13 22:05:41 hmm, can't login :( have tried default OpenSlug (opeNSLUg), what I changed it to using turnup init and anything else it might have inherited from my system, no joy Mar 13 22:06:10 will holding the reset button for 2 secs reset the password as with the stock firmware? Mar 13 22:07:40 is there no way to mount an formatet hd on the slug without to format it via the webgui? Mar 13 22:08:09 it's full with data. i don't want to format it Mar 13 22:08:09 slack---line: you shouldn't need that Mar 13 22:09:03 slack---line: try to start your nslu2 without the disk, then use defauklt password Mar 13 22:09:17 plug your disk and change your password on it Mar 13 22:09:17 PPmarcel: ok will give it a go. Mar 13 22:09:55 err, ask to someone else howyou change your password, i don't remember ^^' Mar 13 22:10:35 just boot from the nslu2, mount the drive, chroot into that as an enviornment and set the password there? Can't chroot into it when connected to main computer as chipset differs. Mar 13 22:10:46 its 'passwd' to change passwords Mar 13 22:12:22 yes, but i don't know if it will change your /etc/passwd on your disk Mar 13 22:21:53 you want to reset the root password? Mar 13 22:22:16 on a gentoo install on an external HD, have done that now Mar 13 22:22:41 can you access the hd? Mar 13 22:22:46 just trying to emerge a few things, but get an error with python under the chrooted envuronment Mar 13 22:22:48 write to? Mar 13 22:23:22 I couldn't as it was rejecting the password, but have now booted from SlugOS, then connected , mounted and chrooted into the gentoo install on the hd Mar 13 22:24:12 else you can mount it on a running system and edit /etc/passwd by hand Mar 13 22:24:33 just delete the "x" in the root entry Mar 13 22:24:55 then you will be prompted for new password at nect login Mar 13 22:25:10 will see if I can fix the python error and see if its worked using 'passwd' to change the password and fall back to editing directly if it hasn't Mar 13 22:34:27 eno: here ? Mar 13 22:34:54 yes? Mar 13 22:35:09 sussed it the python problem I'd not sourced the correct /etc/profile and need to symlink /etc/make.profile for a proper portage and system settings Mar 13 22:37:37 where could i find more information regarding the xmlrpc issue Mar 13 22:38:19 right now it's just trial and err Mar 13 22:38:51 that means? Mar 13 22:38:52 to investigate, you'll need to build a debug version Mar 13 22:38:57 who's incharge of porting it ? Mar 13 22:39:21 or fixing the problem ? Mar 13 22:40:07 i did the optware packaging Mar 13 22:40:27 okay. Mar 13 22:40:40 I'd like to try to help to fix this Mar 13 22:40:45 but i have no idea where to start Mar 13 22:41:31 if you search their source code and protocol doc, they have something about hard-coded to little endian Mar 13 22:42:15 "Raw integer data is encoded in little-endian format" Mar 13 22:42:23 i'll search that right now Mar 13 22:42:24 "Rationale: ..." Mar 13 22:42:41 http://xmlrpc-c.sourceforge.net, right ? Mar 13 22:43:03 yes Mar 13 22:43:15 the one we're using is 1.11.00 Mar 13 22:43:45 does it matter ? Mar 13 22:43:53 why not from svn ? Mar 13 22:44:09 or is 1.11 latest stable ? Mar 13 22:44:40 to get it built and working is not very straightforward, requires stability Mar 13 22:45:15 it's not like i have limitless time on this Mar 13 22:45:32 once it's working (to some extent), i stick to it Mar 13 22:46:15 hrm Mar 13 22:46:47 you probably want to setup slugosbe release toolchain and optware/slugosbe build env 1st Mar 13 22:47:06 i tried setting up optware build yesterday Mar 13 22:47:10 didnt work very well Mar 13 22:47:48 did you follow http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/SlugosbeDevel ? Mar 13 22:48:01 no Mar 13 22:48:05 i built it for unslung Mar 13 22:48:33 that's an entirely different toolchain, libc, and feed Mar 13 22:49:01 oh. Mar 13 22:49:15 rtorrent has even more problem on unslung Mar 13 22:50:06 seems so. thats why i ditched it Mar 13 22:52:34 hrm Mar 13 22:52:54 from reading that "Rationale" Mar 13 22:53:28 is itt right to say the integer types SignedLSB and UnsignedLSB need to be changed ? Mar 13 22:54:24 whats native-endian btw ? Mar 13 22:55:32 it's probably not a good idea changing the encoding, since they've already made that decision Mar 13 22:55:45 so what do you suggest ? Mar 13 22:56:03 native-endian means the endian the CPU is running with Mar 13 22:56:35 there needs to be some extra code on big-endian CPU to swap the bytes Mar 13 22:56:55 hmm. Mar 13 22:56:56 ok Mar 13 22:58:51 it's like driving on the left or right Mar 13 22:59:04 eh. nice analogy Mar 13 22:59:10 I know what endianess is Mar 13 22:59:55 so why have slugos with both LE and BE ? Mar 13 23:00:08 I mean, why not stick with one endianess ? Mar 13 23:10:08 can the xmlrpc lib be replaced by others ? Mar 13 23:17:24 not easily, rtorrent expect xmlrpc-c Mar 13 23:18:16 yeah i'm trying to go over sourcesnow Mar 13 23:20:43 gn8@all Mar 13 23:20:51 you too Mar 13 23:37:39 can something compiled for slug/debian run on slugOSLE ? Mar 13 23:47:25 No. Mar 13 23:48:55 bummer. Mar 13 23:54:03 perhaps; but I rather think if you wish application diversity, you should install debian. If you want small and recoverable, you need SlugOS -- and the apps are part of that. Mar 13 23:54:34 From a technical point-of-view, they use different conventions for calling libraries, not to mention different versions of libraries. Mar 13 23:54:55 well Mar 13 23:55:39 i'm quite happy with slugOSBE except that i dont have rtorrent XMLRPC, which probably works on LE Mar 13 23:55:48 and debianslug Mar 13 23:56:01 is it in the feeds for le, then? Mar 13 23:56:33 i think it is Mar 13 23:56:42 If it's in the feeds for LE, it should be there for BE as well (unless the application is written poorly, and is endian-dependent). Mar 13 23:56:53 its written poorly Mar 13 23:57:16 Ok. well, then perhaps Debian is a good choice to install. Mar 13 23:57:34 what would i miss when moving from BE to LE ? Mar 13 23:57:54 i'll be using python, lighttpd, rtorrent and samba Mar 13 23:58:29 Optware is all BE, so you would have neither optware nor the debian packages available. That leaves you with not too much to choose from, really. Mar 13 23:58:47 oh Mar 13 23:58:51 thats a problem Mar 13 23:59:04 obviously I have now two broken nslu2 PSUs Mar 13 23:59:21 all three act weird and reboot when using two of them Mar 14 00:00:07 well, actually i'm not really using optware except for a few libs which i think i could live without Mar 14 00:00:13 why isn't there optware for LE ? Mar 14 00:00:59 BE was first Mar 14 00:01:06 so ? Mar 14 00:01:16 LE is "wrong endian" Mar 14 00:01:27 true Mar 14 00:01:33 but most of the worldis LE, right? Mar 14 00:01:41 most of the world is mad Mar 14 00:02:09 arm's, intel, right? Mar 14 00:02:23 not only Mar 14 00:02:24 so why didnt they make it LE only. brr. Mar 14 00:02:58 ido-: we have optware/slugosle feed as well Mar 14 00:03:19 python, lighttpd, rtorrent, samba are all in the feed Mar 14 00:03:20 so what would i actually loose by migrating to LE ? Mar 14 00:03:42 ARM is Archimedes RISC Machines, it's british, be happy it doesnt have instrction set in some odd british dialect :) Mar 14 00:04:43 ido-: it once was said, BE has better network perf than LE, but never prooved Mar 14 00:05:01 and thats it ? Mar 14 00:05:13 darnit. Mar 14 00:05:26 less LE users than BE Mar 14 00:05:37 so whats needed to move my current config from BE to LE ? Mar 14 00:05:38 true, most my machines are BE Mar 14 00:05:55 kolla: how so ? Mar 14 00:06:33 but i know ka6sox is using slugosle with optware/slugosle Mar 14 00:08:04 ido-: got heaploads of m68k and powerpc systems, all BE :) Mar 14 00:08:09 ido-: you'll need to reflash Mar 14 00:08:24 well, besides reflashing ofcourse. Mar 14 00:08:38 as well as most of the ARMs, except the zaurus Mar 14 00:09:00 can i reflash, and use my current /etc directory Mar 14 00:09:26 and just reinstall the packages I've currently got installed Mar 14 00:09:32 ido-: should work Mar 14 00:09:52 so it shouldnt be too hard Mar 14 00:10:26 /etc files probably ok, but none of the executables Mar 14 00:11:03 eno: can you somehow verify that rtorrent+xmlrpc actually works on it before i do the transition ? Mar 14 00:12:00 i don't have the time for that, that would also require me to have a spare slug Mar 14 00:12:13 oh, i didnt ask you to test it Mar 14 00:12:26 but chances are thta you know people.. Mar 14 00:13:12 i can try ask ka6sox Mar 14 00:13:41 sure.. Mar 14 00:14:52 at least now OpenSSL doesnt assume that is just ARM=LE anymore :) Mar 14 00:15:15 hrm. Mar 14 00:15:15 s/is/it's/ Mar 14 00:15:25 eno, do you do kernel programming by any chance ? Mar 14 00:16:02 no, i'm more a user-land guy Mar 14 00:16:14 okay. Mar 14 00:16:31 i have a few questions regarding a module i'm trying to develop Mar 14 00:50:00 Hello all. I have a question that I haven't found really answered anywhere. Mar 14 00:51:03 Does the unslung firmware support the additional usb port on the nslu2. If not which firmwares do. Mar 14 00:51:43 it does Mar 14 00:51:46 hm.. additional usb port? Mar 14 00:51:51 2nd one Mar 14 00:51:54 he means Mar 14 00:52:01 i think Mar 14 00:52:13 The mod for 2 additional usb ports for a total of 4 ports on the nslu2 Mar 14 00:52:17 oh Mar 14 00:53:25 I've got both stock ports running but it kinda sucks useing one port for the operateing system and only port free. Mar 14 00:54:05 Wait..... Would it be possible to change where the os lies into one of the "unregistered ports" that would free up one port and still let me use 2 ports. Mar 14 00:54:16 btw, isnt there a second serial port as well? :) Mar 14 00:54:30 Yes I believe that there is. Mar 14 00:54:44 2 serial 1 jtag 3 additional usb Mar 14 00:55:38 fix that and glue on some more RAM and you have a superduperslug :) Mar 14 00:56:48 Yeah the additional ram is a little outa my skills range. But something I would like to try. Only after I get this one working for serving PSP files. Mar 14 00:57:15 :) Mar 14 00:58:02 Great for when I'm on the road and don't want a 64gig memory card with me.. Ohhh wait they don't have those yet... Mar 14 00:58:22 soon Mar 14 00:59:01 I want to replace all the noisy discs on my old systems with flash cards... strugling to find a solution for those machines that only have scsi Mar 14 01:00:20 Ahhh.. the lack of speed vs scsi. yeah that could be a problem. Main reason I cannot keep me main server upstairs. girlfriend says it's to noisy. Mar 14 01:06:48 Jadefalcon: well, 'm talking old scsi-I here, maybe "fast" scsi-II Mar 14 01:07:04 old m68k macs Mar 14 01:07:23 and a couple of amiga A3000s Mar 14 01:08:50 Ohhh.... ummm I retract my previous statement.... Mar 14 01:08:50 lol Mar 14 01:26:07 br... Mar 14 01:26:31 i dontsee how a home server would benfit from SCSI anyhow Mar 14 01:32:47 it's not about home server, it's about keeping my old systems up and running :) Mar 14 01:33:24 what do you need them for? Mar 14 01:33:53 recreation ;) Mar 14 01:35:20 when I'm fed up with so called modern systems, I can go back to fun computing Mar 14 02:15:21 awesome Mar 14 02:15:31 the ipkgfind page on the wiki finally fixed I see Mar 14 02:15:33 about time **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 14 02:59:57 2008