**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 27 02:59:57 2008
Mar 27 11:09:57 <lUrkUr0> same crowd - just bought a nslu2 and about to flash openwrt on it. Is 7.09 (beta) ok to flash or do i need to start with a more stable one (7.08?)
Mar 27 19:32:28 <asa_> hi@all
Mar 27 19:41:57 <janne-5011> hi
Mar 27 19:47:10 <janne-5011> interesting why usb is so slow on some slugs and a easy solution:http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/message/7258
Mar 27 19:49:09 <Reedy> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/message/7258
Mar 27 19:50:20 <Reedy> that is interesting
Mar 27 19:50:38 <Reedy> Mine isnt slow i dont think... so thats good :)
Mar 27 19:53:27 <janne-5011> one of mine is slow and its the old type, resistor removal needed.
Mar 27 19:54:44 <Reedy> yeah, my debian one has IIRC
Mar 27 19:54:52 <Reedy> i think i removed the resistor on that one
Mar 27 19:55:50 <janne-5011> hopefully one annoying problem more  less=)
Mar 27 19:56:03 <Reedy> :)
Mar 27 20:44:23 <mwester> I think the resistor removal is a red herring; I suspect the real cause is a weak power supply.  But I'm certainly prepared to be proven wrong.
Mar 27 20:51:45 <Reedy> I suppose anything, many things can cause similar symptoms
Mar 28 00:12:17 <Smurf-Slayer> Hmmm  Is it possible my errors while copying files are due to clipping the resister to speed up the CPU?  My usb drives are powered on thier own though...
Mar 28 00:13:01 <Smurf-Slayer> mwester, are you there?  I still haven't had any luck trying to determine what the problem is with my unslung with the copy errors when I do a bunch of little files, or when I copy a big group.
Mar 28 00:21:09 <Smurf-Slayer> mwester - I've turned it off and verified nothing else answers on it's ip to a ping.  I've also turned everything off besides my windows box (to do the file copy), the unslung slug and the dsl modem and it still has problems.  What should I try next?
Mar 28 00:21:17 <Smurf-Slayer> Does anyone have any more ideas on what to try?
Mar 28 00:30:02 <ido-> hey guys
Mar 28 00:30:03 <ido-> anyone around ?
Mar 28 00:30:16 <ido-> i have this strange problem i cant figure out
Mar 28 00:55:14 <NSLU2-IRC> hi
Mar 28 00:55:26 <ido-> hey
Mar 28 00:56:06 <NSLU2-IRC> what do people advise I upgrade too that allows for faster transfer speeds which runs a linux just like my nslu2
Mar 28 00:56:20 <ido-> uhu?
Mar 28 00:56:24 <ido-> what firmware?
Mar 28 00:56:29 <NSLU2-IRC> as the transfer speeds are just a little too slow for my liking
Mar 28 00:56:40 <NSLU2-IRC> well im currently using unslung
Mar 28 00:56:52 <Reedy> What speeds are you getting?
Mar 28 00:56:55 <Reedy> And what protocols?
Mar 28 00:56:58 <ido-> hey Reedy 
Mar 28 00:57:02 <Reedy> hey
Mar 28 00:57:06 <ido-> i've got a big problem
Mar 28 00:57:07 <NSLU2-IRC> smb
Mar 28 00:57:20 <Reedy> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/Performance
Mar 28 00:57:23 <ido-> the slug dies on me.
Mar 28 00:57:25 <NSLU2-IRC> like 5meg on a ext3
Mar 28 00:57:29 <NSLU2-IRC> and 4 on a ntfs
Mar 28 00:57:45 <ido-> NSLU2-IRC: i think thats pretty much the max you'll get
Mar 28 00:57:48 <Reedy> NSLU2-IRC, your not gonna get much better
Mar 28 00:57:54 <Reedy> see the above link
Mar 28 00:58:12 <Reedy> If you wanted speed, you shoudlnt have bought an NSLU2
Mar 28 00:58:13 <ido-> Reedy: ?
Mar 28 00:58:16 <NSLU2-IRC> sorry, by upgrade i mean a simlair device
Mar 28 00:58:21 <Reedy> ah
Mar 28 00:58:23 <NSLU2-IRC> that has better performance
Mar 28 00:58:33 <Reedy> ido-, whens it die?
Mar 28 00:58:38 <ido-> i'm not sure
Mar 28 00:58:54 <ido-> i think after a lot of files were opened through smb
Mar 28 00:59:07 <ido-> i was scanning my mp3 directory for the night
Mar 28 00:59:07 <Reedy> NSLU2-IRC, budget? Do you want internal drives? etc etc
Mar 28 00:59:11 <Reedy> with?
Mar 28 00:59:34 <NSLU2-IRC> well internal is fine, especially if it has some usb's
Mar 28 00:59:35 <ido-> the night afterwards it happend too, but i'm not aware of any special activity on it
Mar 28 00:59:49 <Reedy> NSLU2-IRC, maybe look at the Thecus N2100 - not overly cheap
Mar 28 00:59:51 <ido-> by dies, i mean it doesnt accept any tcp connections
Mar 28 01:00:08 <Reedy> sounds like mine did with rtorrent IIRC
Mar 28 01:00:10 <ido-> it makes a tcp handshake, and disconnects right away
Mar 28 01:00:16 <Reedy> i cant remember if it was unaccessible
Mar 28 01:00:21 <Reedy> or just rtorrent died
Mar 28 01:00:37 <ido-> its not accessible. i think the reset button doesnt even respond.
Mar 28 01:00:50 <ido-> i'm not running anything besides samba and the basic stuff on it
Mar 28 01:00:55 <Reedy> ido-, have you just left it idle for the same period?
Mar 28 01:00:57 <Reedy> just to see?
Mar 28 01:01:16 <ido-> well, it worked for thepast week fine.. besides this
Mar 28 01:01:48 <Reedy> ido-, what media server?
Mar 28 01:02:10 <ido-> no media serrrver, used some sony junk software to scan mp3's off smb shares
Mar 28 01:02:23 <Reedy> ahhh
Mar 28 01:02:31 <Reedy> thats possibly why
Mar 28 01:02:43 <Reedy> windows isnt very friendly with network shares...
Mar 28 01:02:48 <ido-> well.. that shoudlnt happen.
Mar 28 01:02:53 <Reedy> no, it shouldnt
Mar 28 01:02:58 <Reedy> but windows isnt very friendl
Mar 28 01:02:58 <Reedy> y
Mar 28 01:03:01 <ido-> it never happened with unslung..
Mar 28 01:03:07 <Reedy> hmm
Mar 28 01:04:30 <ido-> you know, i've never finished actually building the makefile
Mar 28 01:04:39 <ido-> it never went through
Mar 28 01:05:28 <NSLU2-IRC> so what kinda transfer rates can the Thecus N2100 do
Mar 28 01:05:43 <Reedy> ask google
Mar 28 01:05:45 <Reedy> i dont really know
Mar 28 01:05:49 <ido-> seems http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/29720/75/1/1/
Mar 28 01:05:50 <Reedy> but its a much faster cpu
Mar 28 01:05:56 <Reedy> more memory
Mar 28 01:06:59 <ido-> gets 10,000kbps on 1gbit, but around 8,000 on 100mpbs ?
Mar 28 01:07:02 <ido-> wtf
Mar 28 01:08:19 <ido-> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_nas/Itemid,190
Mar 28 01:08:28 <ido-> check these benchmarks
Mar 28 01:08:55 <NSLU2-IRC> is it the cpu that stops the nslu2 from transfering fast?
Mar 28 01:09:07 <ido-> i think so
Mar 28 01:09:15 <Reedy> its a mixture of the low memory and the cpu, yeah
Mar 28 01:09:24 <NSLU2-IRC> is there nothing thats like 25-40 kbps
Mar 28 01:09:49 <ido-> i wonder if there's something cheap and can run linux
Mar 28 01:09:54 <NSLU2-IRC> mbps*
Mar 28 01:09:55 <ido-> and fast
Mar 28 01:10:13 <ido-> NSLU2-IRC: according to those charts, no.
Mar 28 01:10:41 <ido-> not in the home/soho category
Mar 28 01:10:43 <Reedy> hmm
Mar 28 01:10:47 <Reedy> VIA artigo?
Mar 28 01:11:44 <ido-> Reedy: would you recommend i move up to debian/slug ?
Mar 28 01:11:45 <NSLU2-IRC> why is it soo different transfering over a network 
Mar 28 01:11:53 <NSLU2-IRC> compared to different internal drives
Mar 28 01:12:07 <Reedy> you've got USB overheads
Mar 28 01:12:18 <NSLU2-IRC> 1g connection is fast enough to match that of internal drive speeds
Mar 28 01:13:26 <NSLU2-IRC> but it seems even a NAS is no where near the speed
Mar 28 01:14:28 <ido-> if you really only want the speed, just get any ~1+ ghz computer
Mar 28 01:14:33 <ido-> with raid and 1gbit lan
Mar 28 01:14:39 <ido-> i think it'll do the trick
Mar 28 01:14:48 <ido-> run freenas on it
Mar 28 01:14:50 <Reedy> http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/artigo/
Mar 28 01:15:02 <Reedy> 10/100 and 1 laptop hard drive
Mar 28 01:16:22 <NSLU2-IRC> thats still limited to 12.5 though since its only 100m lan?
Mar 28 01:16:45 <ido-> indeed so.
Mar 28 01:16:59 <ido-> minipci+1gbit pci card?/
Mar 28 01:16:59 <Reedy> NSLU2-IRC, technically, yeah
Mar 28 01:17:03 <Reedy> theoretically
Mar 28 01:18:15 <ido-> not sure it has a minipci port.
Mar 28 01:18:42 <ido-> how about them debian/slug Reedy ?
Mar 28 01:18:51 <Reedy> sorry?
Mar 28 01:18:59 <NSLU2-IRC> so is a 1ghz powered mini pc with 1gbit lan able to transfer around 30mbps, or is the pcu still not going to cut it
Mar 28 01:19:26 <ido-> should i run it instead of my slugosle ?
Mar 28 01:21:17 <Reedy> debian is more heavyweight
Mar 28 01:22:25 <Reedy> and its 1:20am here... i'd better go to bed
Mar 28 01:22:27 <ido-> hrm. i'm not too happy with my le
Mar 28 01:22:29 <ido-> ohay.
Mar 28 01:22:33 <ido-> go to be then :)
Mar 28 01:22:38 <ido-> see ya tomorrow
Mar 28 01:22:48 <Reedy> or today, probably, in my case ;P
Mar 28 01:23:00 * Reedy is still waiting for UK NSLU2 prices to drop
Mar 28 01:23:02 <ido-> its 5:00 hrtr.
Mar 28 01:23:10 <ido-> get one on ebay.
Mar 28 01:23:21 <Reedy> I've got 2
Mar 28 01:23:28 <Reedy> they still sell not that much cheaper
Mar 28 01:23:35 <Reedy> ~£55 new
Mar 28 01:23:42 <Reedy> >£40 for used ones from ebay
Mar 28 01:23:50 <ido-> oh.
Mar 28 01:23:54 <ido-> right.
Mar 28 01:23:57 <Reedy> I want the US style cheap prices, or at least, relative price drops
Mar 28 01:23:57 <ido-> +shipping.
Mar 28 01:24:08 <Reedy> never mind the fact that the US were loads cheaper anyway
Mar 28 01:24:53 <Reedy> Funnily, there still seems to be an abundance of stock here in the UK
Mar 28 01:25:48 <Reedy> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-Network-Storage-Link-NSLU2/dp/B00062KPEI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1205085430&sr=8-2
Mar 28 01:25:57 <Reedy> £70 new at amazon :O
Mar 28 01:26:21 <ido-> eh.
Mar 28 01:26:37 <Reedy> (the price seems to be going up)
Mar 28 01:26:49 <Reedy> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/65399 - 226 instock at £55
Mar 28 01:28:37 <Reedy> Anyway, later!
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