**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 28 02:59:57 2008
Mar 28 09:53:32 <alesan> hi
Mar 28 09:53:53 <DrJ> hi
Mar 28 09:55:05 <alesan> my system seem to boot but I have no network access :( I have already modifies network/interfaces to have auto eth0 instead of allow-hotplug eth0
Mar 28 10:03:16 <DrJ> what firmware?
Mar 28 10:05:49 <alesan> it is debian.
Mar 28 10:05:58 <alesan> I have a 500GB hdd attached on USB port
Mar 28 10:06:19 <alesan> do you need a precise debina version info? I have installed it last year at about this time....
Mar 28 10:06:45 <alesan> the device seem right because I can see the amber led "heartbeat"
Mar 28 10:06:52 <alesan> but no network at all
Mar 28 10:07:56 <alesan> I will now shutdown and connect the hdd to my laptop.
Mar 28 10:07:57 <DrJ> if you are just now starting to use it
Mar 28 10:08:08 <DrJ> I would consider just reflashing with the newest firmware
Mar 28 10:08:11 <DrJ> and see where you are from there
Mar 28 10:08:37 <alesan> well... I could backup the existing data.
Mar 28 10:08:44 <alesan> yes I think that is what I will do.
Mar 28 10:45:33 <alesan> I realized this task would take a great effort, so now I am trying to revive this installation again
Mar 28 10:45:48 <alesan> I have attached a USB to serial converter to the USB port
Mar 28 10:46:09 <alesan> and I modified /etc/inittab with a line for getty on ttyUSB0
Mar 28 10:46:18 <alesan> let's see if this works to give me a serial console
Mar 28 12:15:16 <alesan> no luck I am reainstalling. I realized the device has been cracked
Mar 28 12:15:24 <alesan> someone installed a bitnet or similar
Mar 28 12:15:34 <alesan> so I'm formatting it
Mar 28 12:26:49 <forecastius> Does anybody have the cp437 kernel module for OpenWrt Kamikaze 7.09 prebuilt image, as https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/2263 does not seem to be solved yet and the download link in the bug-report is broken. Or is there any other solution apart from compiling OpenWrt myself?
Mar 28 12:39:16 <forecastius> Another solution for my issue: is there a binary OpenWrt image that contains the kernel matching the kmod packages in http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openwrt/unstable/ ?
Mar 28 13:45:44 <NSLU2-IRC> hey
Mar 28 13:46:10 <Reedy> 'lo
Mar 28 13:46:14 <Reedy> please change your name
Mar 28 13:46:20 <NSLU2-IRC> just trying to change it :)
Mar 28 13:46:33 <NSLU2-IRC> better?
Mar 28 13:46:36 <NSLU2-IRC> nope
Mar 28 13:46:43 <NSLU2-IRC> noobs
Mar 28 13:47:26 <Test> use /nick Whatever
Mar 28 13:47:39 <NSLU2-IRC> I'm using the Java client as my IRC
Mar 28 13:47:51 <NSLU2-IRC> does it have to be a unique name?
Mar 28 13:48:05 <NSLU2-IRC> "/nick Jon"
Mar 28 13:48:05 <Reedy> Its just easier to have it as something that isnt the default
Mar 28 13:48:09 <Reedy> yeah, thats fine
Mar 28 13:48:22 <NSLU2-IRC> I agree, although it doesn't seem to do anything!
Mar 28 13:48:35 <NSLU2-IRC> I'm going to have to use a 'real' IRC client
Mar 28 13:48:46 <Reedy> lol, dont worry about it, if it wont
Mar 28 13:48:57 <Reedy> just easier if you can
Mar 28 13:49:21 <NSLU2-IRC> You can see that I know which command to use to change the name but no joy here
Mar 28 13:49:23 <NSLU2-IRC> Anyway
Mar 28 13:49:27 <NSLU2-IRC> Thanks for your help
Mar 28 13:50:00 <NSLU2-IRC> As you may have noticed, I'm new to using uNSLUng
Mar 28 13:50:31 <NSLU2-IRC> And was just wondering if there was anyone here that could help me with an issue I'm having with it
Mar 28 13:52:00 <NSLU2-IRC> I'm now running the current firmware
Mar 28 13:52:13 <NSLU2-IRC> 6.10-beta
Mar 28 13:52:44 <NSLU2-IRC> but I'm having telnet trouble using either Putty or the m$ telnet client
Mar 28 13:53:15 <NSLU2-IRC> Telnet is enabled within the web interface
Mar 28 13:53:29 <NSLU2-IRC> and I get a username/password prompt
Mar 28 13:53:50 <NSLU2-IRC> After I've logged in, it terminates the session
Mar 28 13:54:22 <NSLU2-IRC> I was just wondering if this was a common or known about problem
Mar 28 13:54:28 <NSLU2-IRC> or if I'm just nuts
Mar 28 14:09:52 <jonb> hey
Mar 28 14:10:36 <Reedy> wb
Mar 28 14:11:16 <jonb> Got there in the end, using Pidgin
Mar 28 14:11:25 <Reedy> lol
Mar 28 14:11:51 <Reedy> The telnet terminating straight after login isnt uncommon, but i cant remember for the life in me what the answer is
Mar 28 14:15:22 <jonb> Do you think there's a FAQ somewhere that may have the solution?  As you can imagine, I can't unslug it otherwise :|
Mar 28 14:16:04 <Reedy> Yeah, it'll be in the FAQ
Mar 28 14:17:07 <jonb> Ok, thanks - I'll do some more digging...
Mar 28 14:17:47 <Reedy> i was just trying to look myself
Mar 28 14:20:54 <jonb> the nslu2-linux.org website is a little 'cluttered' with different projects
Mar 28 14:21:30 <Reedy> search usually finds it
Mar 28 14:21:36 <jonb> thanks
Mar 28 14:21:57 <Reedy> hmm
Mar 28 14:22:55 <jonb> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/EnableTelnetThroughTheWebInterface
Mar 28 14:23:06 <Reedy> hang on
Mar 28 14:23:10 <Reedy> What username are you logging in with?
Mar 28 14:23:14 <Reedy> not admin, are you?
Mar 28 14:23:24 <jonb> yes :-$
Mar 28 14:23:29 <Reedy> Thats it
Mar 28 14:23:32 <Reedy> Told you it was common
Mar 28 14:23:35 <jonb> lol
Mar 28 14:23:36 <Reedy> user: root
Mar 28 14:23:42 <Reedy> password: unSLUng
Mar 28 14:23:42 <jonb> of course!
Mar 28 14:24:01 <jonb> So the web interface uses different creditentails
Mar 28 14:24:08 <jonb> hence the confusion
Mar 28 14:24:13 <Reedy> ya
Mar 28 14:24:14 <Reedy> well
Mar 28 14:24:31 <jonb> I'm clearly a linux virgin
Mar 28 14:24:37 <Reedy> not exactly
Mar 28 14:24:39 <Reedy> the admin user exists, but it has no shell
Mar 28 14:24:41 <Reedy> so it just forgets
Mar 28 14:24:46 <Reedy> ignore that
Mar 28 14:24:52 <jonb> Right :)
Mar 28 14:24:53 <Reedy> it has no shell, so it cant login
Mar 28 14:25:04 <jonb> That makes sense now
Mar 28 14:25:26 <Reedy> ya
Mar 28 14:25:34 <jonb> success!
Mar 28 14:25:46 <Reedy> jonb, RTFM helps ;)
Mar 28 14:25:51 <jonb> hehehe
Mar 28 14:25:57 <jonb> I must have missed that bit
Mar 28 14:26:07 <jonb> I followed the readme 
Mar 28 14:26:23 <Reedy> Line 105
Mar 28 14:26:23 <Reedy> - Use your telnet utility to telnet into the NSLU2, and log in using the
Mar 28 14:26:23 <Reedy>   username root and password uNSLUng (upper/lower case is significant).
Mar 28 14:26:53 <jonb> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/releases/Unslung-6.10-beta-README.txt
Mar 28 14:26:57 <jonb> From there?
Mar 28 14:27:01 <Reedy> Yeah
Mar 28 14:27:09 <Reedy> That, or what was included with your image
Mar 28 14:27:11 <jonb> I'm an idiot!
Mar 28 14:27:17 <jonb> hehehe
Mar 28 14:27:28 <Reedy> jonb, your not the first
Mar 28 14:27:33 <Reedy> and you certainly wont be the last
Mar 28 14:27:46 <jonb> I bet...
Mar 28 14:32:18 <jonb> I take it the learning curve is quite steep?
Mar 28 14:33:57 <Reedy> depends what you want to do
Mar 28 14:35:34 <jonb> A very wise answer
Mar 28 14:37:11 <jonb> Can I ask, are you a general user or are you more involved with the project?
Mar 28 14:38:04 <Reedy> I suppose, im a user..
Mar 28 14:38:31 <Reedy> Add to/edit wiki at times
Mar 28 14:38:35 <Reedy> But im not a developer
Mar 28 14:38:51 <jonb> And what do you use your slug(s) for?
Mar 28 14:39:20 <Reedy> one is sitting there off, not doing anything
Mar 28 14:39:24 <Reedy> (my unslung one)
Mar 28 14:39:47 <Reedy> My debian one is a print server, samba file server, firefly media server
Mar 28 14:39:47 <Reedy> errrm
Mar 28 14:39:53 <jonb> So it's just for amusement more than anything else?
Mar 28 14:40:15 <jonb> firefly - is that a uPNP media server?
Mar 28 14:40:16 <Reedy> Errm, the debian one does stuff so i dont need my celeron windows 2003 server on
Mar 28 14:40:19 <Reedy> yaa
Mar 28 14:40:29 <jonb> cool
Mar 28 14:40:48 <jonb> I've recently got hold of a Freecom MusicPal
Mar 28 14:40:58 <jonb> for Interent radio
Mar 28 14:41:23 <jonb> but for it to work with my mp3 stash, I needs a uPNP server
Mar 28 14:41:30 <Reedy> ive got a soundbridge
Mar 28 14:41:43 <jonb> Also, it would make an ideal real DNS server
Mar 28 14:41:47 <jonb> Nice
Mar 28 14:45:01 <jonb> More random questions
Mar 28 14:45:12 <jonb> ipkg is an installer?
Mar 28 14:45:13 <Reedy> lol
Mar 28 14:45:20 <Reedy> its a package management system
Mar 28 14:45:33 <jonb> and it downloads those packages from the Internet
Mar 28 14:45:43 <jonb> once it has been updated
Mar 28 14:45:46 <Reedy> yeah, from the Optware feeds
Mar 28 14:45:51 <Reedy> maintained by these guys
Mar 28 14:45:55 <jonb> I ask as I'm installing openssh
Mar 28 14:46:00 <jonb> hmmm
Mar 28 14:46:40 <Reedy> you have unslung it first?
Mar 28 14:47:09 <jonb> Yes, that was why I was beating my head with telnet
Mar 28 14:47:19 <jonb> I'm really impressed
Mar 28 14:48:29 <jonb> Another noob question (I appreciate your help on this), like other OS', there are a number of accounts (user), like root and admin that I'm already aware of
Mar 28 14:49:26 <Reedy> ya
Mar 28 14:50:36 <jonb> This seems like a real easy way to educate myself on some basic priciple
Mar 28 14:50:39 <jonb> s
Mar 28 14:51:17 <Reedy> Such as?
Mar 28 14:51:40 <jonb> Perhaps I meant more of the *nix environment
Mar 28 14:51:51 <Reedy> ah
Mar 28 14:51:59 <jonb> I've been weened on windows for far too long
Mar 28 14:52:41 <Reedy> hehe
Mar 28 14:53:15 <jonb> performance wise, there appears to be little difference from running the slug with the linksys firmware and this one
Mar 28 14:53:53 <jonb> share wise
Mar 28 14:54:11 <Reedy> Yeah, it will be fairly similar, as unslung is like linksysfirmware + a bit more
Mar 28 14:55:55 <jonb> So you can technically run any OS on this little thing so long as you can compile it (I'm sure it isn't as simple as that) but in priciple
Mar 28 14:56:37 <Reedy> Nearly, yeah
Mar 28 14:56:53 <Reedy> Hence many linux os's being avaliable - debian, gentoo, etc
Mar 28 14:57:07 <Reedy> you can even netBSD it
Mar 28 14:57:26 <jonb> And is the OS of choice purely down to individual preference
Mar 28 14:57:55 <Reedy> A mix of that, and what you want to do, and whether you want to have an OS drive
Mar 28 15:02:51 <Reedy> Very much Horses for Causes
Mar 28 15:02:56 <jonb> Where can you get a list/guide of applications for the slug?  Such as firefly?
Mar 28 15:02:58 <Reedy> Courses.. whichever it is
Mar 28 15:03:00 <jonb> lol
Mar 28 15:03:08 <jonb> I liked the causes remark!
Mar 28 15:03:16 <Reedy> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Applications/HomePage]
Mar 28 15:03:22 <Reedy> Is useful
Mar 28 15:03:58 <Reedy> jonb, if you do ipkg install ipkg-web
Mar 28 15:04:19 <Reedy> you get a nice web interface with a list of all the avaliable optware packages for unslung
Mar 28 15:08:48 <jonb> thanks!
Mar 28 15:09:53 <jonb> Does it run on a different port number?
Mar 28 15:15:13 <jonb> I've found it now
Mar 28 15:17:04 <Reedy> yeah, sorry, had to go watch my baby sister
Mar 28 15:17:45 <Reedy> Where abouts are you in the uk jonb ?
Mar 28 15:27:41 <jonb> I'm from Canterbury - how about you?
Mar 28 15:27:45 <jonb> South East
Mar 28 15:28:53 <Reedy> near york
Mar 28 15:29:11 <jonb> I must pass by on the train when I visit Edinburgh
Mar 28 15:29:21 <jonb> looks like a nice area
Mar 28 15:31:22 <Reedy> :)
Mar 28 15:31:51 <jonb> I must stop along the line some time - what do you do?
Mar 28 15:32:21 <Reedy> I'm a student full time and an IT support guy/consultant part time
Mar 28 15:32:36 <jonb> How is the studying going?
Mar 28 15:32:51 <Reedy> 'tis easy - only in first year
Mar 28 15:33:05 <jonb> lucky you - which subject?
Mar 28 15:33:16 <Reedy> Computer Software Development
Mar 28 15:33:40 <jonb> hehehe, so I guess you're relaxed about your exams after Easter?
Mar 28 15:34:27 <Reedy> Yeah, still got 6 weeks or so till them
Mar 28 15:34:30 <Reedy> then i've only got 2
Mar 28 15:34:31 <Reedy> hah
Mar 28 15:35:17 <jonb> Sounds like it's going well then
Mar 28 15:35:33 <Reedy> 85% and 65% in first exams
Mar 28 15:35:36 <Reedy> So yeah, thanls
Mar 28 15:35:37 <Reedy> thanks
Mar 28 15:35:42 <Reedy> What do you do/do for a living?
Mar 28 15:35:59 <jonb> Finished uni about 5 years ago now
Mar 28 15:36:19 <jonb> I now work for an Audio Visual installer as their 'IT' person
Mar 28 15:36:26 <jonb> Which means jack of all trades
Mar 28 15:36:36 <mwester> "Mr. Cables"
Mar 28 15:36:49 <Reedy> heh
Mar 28 15:36:55 <Reedy> hi mike!
Mar 28 15:36:58 <mwester> 'allo
Mar 28 17:03:06 <alesan> I would like to remove openssh and install dropbear on my debian/nslu2
Mar 28 17:03:16 <alesan> any special instructions?
Mar 28 17:03:37 <alesan> like, install dropbear first and remove openssh later, or the opposite? I do not have a serial console.
Mar 28 17:10:09 <eno> alesan: search the wiki, saw something there recently
Mar 28 17:10:49 <eno> personally i'd keep openssh even though it uses a little more RAM
Mar 28 17:11:16 <alesan> eno: why?
Mar 28 17:11:45 <alesan> I use dropbear on my openwrt installations, I see no real limitation...
Mar 28 17:13:14 <eno> does dropbear support sftp and scp?
Mar 28 17:15:02 <alesan> to be honest, sftp I don't care
Mar 28 17:15:17 <alesan> scp... well I commonly scp'ed to my openwrt system
Mar 28 17:15:25 <alesan> let me test :)
Mar 28 17:15:45 <eno> agent forwarding, port redirection ...
Mar 28 17:17:06 <alesan> I use ssh -L and -R a lot, but in this case I don't really care. And - are you sure dropbear does not support that?
Mar 28 17:17:33 <eno> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SwitchToDropbearForRemoteAccessUnderDebianEtch
Mar 28 17:19:26 <alesan> yes I used a reduced version of method 2 :)
Mar 28 17:20:28 <eno> it would help to get the actual number in terms of RAM usage
Mar 28 17:22:15 <alesan> I cannot configure dropbear ot use passwordless logins.
Mar 28 17:23:00 <eno> pubkey authentication works, i configured it on my openwrt
Mar 28 17:23:43 <jonb> Thanks for your help Reedy, gotta go now but I'm sure I'll be back soon enough
Mar 28 17:23:45 <alesan> did you convert the key to some format or is it the same as openssh uses
Mar 28 17:24:03 <eno> http://wiki.openwrt.org/DropbearPublicKeyAuthenticationHowto
Mar 28 17:25:11 <alesan> mh. maybe dropbear does not support rsa?
Mar 28 17:29:11 <jonb> \quit
Mar 28 18:04:22 <ido-> hey 
Mar 28 18:05:38 <Reedy> loo
Mar 28 18:07:07 <ido-> how'd you sleep last night
Mar 28 18:08:05 <ido-> eno here ?
Mar 28 18:08:14 <Reedy> dunno, im tired again.. but ive been going to bed too late
Mar 28 18:08:15 <ido-> i'd like to ask him about my issue last too
Mar 28 18:09:20 <ido-> happen to watch lost tv show?
Mar 28 18:10:13 <Reedy> nah, seen very few episodes
Mar 28 18:12:33 <ido-> hrm.
Mar 28 18:12:41 <ido-> howmuch free ram should i have on the router?
Mar 28 18:12:57 <Reedy> router?
Mar 28 18:13:14 <ido-> ugh
Mar 28 18:13:14 <ido-> slug
Mar 28 18:13:23 <Reedy> depends on os, whats running, etc etc
Mar 28 18:13:25 <Reedy> but
Mar 28 18:13:25 <ido-> 1mb free, 120mb swap
Mar 28 18:13:27 <ido-> slugosle
Mar 28 18:13:29 <Reedy> if the OS is working correctly
Mar 28 18:13:34 <Reedy> it will allocate most of the memory
Mar 28 18:13:36 <Reedy> so its better used
Mar 28 18:13:47 <ido-> i'm thinking it got sluck the other day because of free ram
Mar 28 18:14:12 <Reedy> Mine has 1mb free too
Mar 28 18:14:17 <Reedy> Mem:     29988k total,    28968k used,     1020k free,     2556k buffers
Mar 28 18:14:18 <Reedy> Swap:   131048k total,     5916k used,   125132k free,    15080k cached
Mar 28 18:14:37 <ido-> with debian ?
Mar 28 18:14:41 <Reedy> ya
Mar 28 18:15:20 <ido-> seems weird it died on me
Mar 28 18:15:34 <ido-> it should have used the swap or something
Mar 28 18:15:41 <ido-> no chance it used over 100mb swap
Mar 28 18:18:04 <eno> ido-: i'm here
Mar 28 18:19:42 <ido-> hey.
Mar 28 18:19:49 <eno> ido-: seen anything in /var/log/messages ?
Mar 28 18:21:16 <ido-> nope
Mar 28 18:22:35 <eno> do you have ntpd running?
Mar 28 18:22:51 <ido-> no error or anything
Mar 28 18:23:03 <ido-> no
Mar 28 18:23:49 <ido-> only smbd and lighttpd (not that anyone is using lighttpd..)
Mar 28 18:28:35 <ido-> any ideas then ?
Mar 28 18:29:08 <eno> my slugosbe has 6M free
Mar 28 18:29:38 <ido-> hrm
Mar 28 18:30:00 <eno> without any info from log, i guess you'll need to disable process one by one to see which one is causing the problem
Mar 28 18:30:30 <eno> if that does not help, maybe a kernel bug
Mar 28 18:31:13 <eno> how often is the crash?
Mar 28 18:31:25 <ido-> dunno
Mar 28 18:31:34 <ido-> happend 3 days straight
Mar 28 18:31:38 <ido-> one time each day
Mar 28 18:32:01 <ido-> usually after massive file access (like going through every file in my 80gb mp3 collection
Mar 28 18:32:20 <ido-> disable what? syslogd ? sshd ?
Mar 28 18:32:28 <ido-> its obviously smbd
Mar 28 18:32:44 <Reedy> probably not the best idea to disable ssh ;)
Mar 28 18:32:47 <ido-> or a hardware/kernel problem.
Mar 28 18:33:12 <ido-> i haven't gone through building the Makefile and rtorrent
Mar 28 18:33:33 <ido-> since i found another bug on the wrt build on myrouter
Mar 28 18:33:48 <ido-> and didnt have time (for both actually)
Mar 28 18:33:59 <ido-> so now i'm upgrading my wrt router
Mar 28 18:34:06 <ido-> well, backing it up first
Mar 28 18:34:11 <ido-> and as for the slug..
Mar 28 18:34:27 <ido-> well, i'm disappointed from it crashing.
Mar 28 18:34:33 <ido-> never happend on unslung
Mar 28 18:37:00 <eno> so it's probably not a hardware problem
Mar 28 18:37:44 <ido-> right..
Mar 28 18:38:50 <eno> there're slugos samba, optware samba2 and optware samba
Mar 28 18:39:17 <eno> if you suspect smb, maybe try a different samba
Mar 28 18:39:31 <ido-> ipkg samba
Mar 28 18:39:46 <ido-> shouldnt it be the best one?
Mar 28 18:40:04 <eno> what's the version?
Mar 28 18:40:33 <ido-> shouldnt it be the best one?3.0.23c-r1
Mar 28 18:41:48 <eno> i'm also using 3.0.23c-r1
Mar 28 18:42:26 <ido-> so that shouldnt be the pborlbm
Mar 28 18:42:43 <eno> dunno
Mar 28 18:42:55 <ido-> hrm.
Mar 28 18:45:49 <eno> i suggest you turn off samba, run rtorrent for some time, and see how it goes
Mar 28 18:46:21 <Reedy> mine didnt like rtorrent too much
Mar 28 18:46:22 <eno> at least that will give a little more clue
Mar 28 18:47:25 <eno> Reedy: i sometime experience OOM-killer killing rtorrent on debian
Mar 28 18:47:45 <Reedy> hmm
Mar 28 18:47:51 <Reedy> I think mine didnt like large files too much
Mar 28 18:49:08 <ido-> i dont have rtorrent at all !
Mar 28 18:49:16 <ido-> only samba + lighttpd (which isnt in use)
Mar 28 18:49:17 <Reedy> lol
Mar 28 18:49:58 <eno> mine (rtorrent on debian) handles 4G+ file fine
Mar 28 18:50:45 <ido-> Reedy has debiantoo.
Mar 28 18:51:39 <ido-> maybe i should just put debian.
Mar 28 18:52:12 <eno> i always feel debian is a bit too heavy for slug
Mar 28 18:52:27 <ido-> oh
Mar 28 18:52:33 <ido-> so maybe i shouldnt go that route.
Mar 28 18:52:34 <ido-> ehe.
Mar 28 18:55:25 <eno> if you're familar with openwrt, openwrt on slug is a fine choice
Mar 28 18:58:29 <ido-> i dont see why choose it over slugos
Mar 28 18:59:59 <eno> uclibc
Mar 28 19:00:42 <ido-> is that considered better ?
Mar 28 19:01:10 <eno> different tradeoff
Mar 28 19:01:27 <ido-> ok
Mar 28 19:02:07 <eno> debian is the only firmware that depends on a USB disk or memstick
Mar 28 19:02:25 <ido-> i noticed that.
Mar 28 19:02:43 <ido-> why is that bad?
Mar 28 19:03:08 <ido-> when using slugos, or even after unslunging, you're pretty much using a usb disk as well
Mar 28 19:03:23 <eno> you can boot without disk for recovery
Mar 28 19:03:35 <ido-> oh. right.
Mar 28 19:03:37 <eno> in openwrt, you can do quite a lot without disk
Mar 28 19:03:43 <ido-> true.
Mar 28 19:03:51 <ido-> butopenwrt isn't an option.
Mar 28 19:04:00 <ido-> besides, recovery is the real deal here.
Mar 28 19:04:17 <ido-> well, unless we give it up..
Mar 28 19:07:29 <eno> ok, just tried on my openwrt slug, rtorrent works without xmlrpc
Mar 28 19:07:59 <ido-> and with it ?
Mar 28 19:08:08 <eno> failed with "Fault occured while inserting xmlrpc call." with xmlrpc
Mar 28 19:08:29 <ido-> right.
Mar 28 19:08:48 <ido-> openrwt could be build both as LE and BE, right ?
Mar 28 19:08:59 <eno> currently just BE
Mar 28 19:09:37 <eno> i actually don't care that much about xmlrpc, but i know other ppl do
Mar 28 19:10:10 <ido-> xmlrpc seems cool
Mar 28 19:10:20 <ido-> since you can have a web gui attached to rtorrent
Mar 28 19:10:42 <ido-> good for multiple people who use rtorrent and are clueless to cli(or english for that matter)
Mar 28 19:11:08 <eno> there's also transmission + clutch
Mar 28 19:12:14 <ido-> more heavy
Mar 28 19:12:23 <ido-> besides, rtorrent seems to run quite fine
Mar 28 19:13:44 <Reedy> Mine would choke on a couple of 1 or 1.2Gb files
Mar 28 19:15:37 <ido-> thats the problem with the firmware
Mar 28 19:15:42 <ido-> works for one, doesnt work for another
Mar 28 19:16:02 <ido-> eno just said it worked fine for him for > 4gb files
Mar 28 19:43:04 <mwester-laptop> rtorrent on SlugOS (native rtorrent) works fine with 4GB files; I've just downloaded several.
Mar 28 19:47:39 <ido-> eh.
Mar 28 19:47:46 <ido-> get xmlrpc to run too.
Mar 28 19:53:53 <ShadowJK> I suspect if you tried to torrent to vfat fs it wouldn't work with large files
Mar 28 20:34:35 <Reedy> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-WRT54G-Ultimate-Hacking-Asadoorian/dp/1597491667/ref=pd_bbs_10?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206736045&sr=8-10
Mar 28 20:34:41 <Reedy> haha, theres a book on the WRT54G
Mar 28 21:16:08 <janne-5011|away> the debate on the issue remove-resistor and the claim there is a reduce speed on the usb disc when  resistor removed needs better tried out from users. not just say propasal is wrong., thats bad aiitiutde i think the guy found somting worth testing.http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/message/7245 just t because  its overlooked/forgtotten not prove hes wrong imho.
Mar 28 21:17:04 <janne-5011|away> i shall buy on usb -pwered tommorow and try it
Mar 28 21:17:16 <ShadowJK> Besides, if the voltage on USB drops too much the device would stop working entirely, not slow down...
Mar 28 21:17:45 <mwester> janne-5011|away:  Nobody has rejected his finding, it has just been challenged.
Mar 28 21:17:45 <janne-5011|away> maybe but most be proved 
Mar 28 21:17:51 <ShadowJK> Not to say a hub couldn't give a speed boost if the external device and nslu2 usb don't get along very well :-)
Mar 28 21:18:13 <ShadowJK> There was another user that posted results where it was faster without a hub
Mar 28 21:18:19 <janne-5011|away> its intutive and i think hes right
Mar 28 21:18:29 <mwester> janne-5011|away:  what is intuitive?
Mar 28 21:18:42 <janne-5011|away> itsme feeling hes right;)
Mar 28 21:18:56 <mwester> who is right?  I'm confused about what you are agreeing with.
Mar 28 21:19:44 <janne-5011|away> well the idea the removal  and lack of power after sounds right some way. worth a trial at least
Mar 28 21:19:50 <janne-5011|away> not just reject it
Mar 28 21:20:59 <mwester> It wasn't rejected.
Mar 28 21:21:12 <janne-5011|away> time will show 
Mar 28 21:21:18 <janne-5011|away> and testing
Mar 28 21:21:30 <mwester> It was merely asked that someone test to see if his "guess" was correct as to the cause.
Mar 28 21:22:31 <mwester> I hope the community will respond as some have on the list, by submitting their own results and testing.
Mar 28 21:22:43 <mwester> I'm looking forward to some actual voltage measurements.
Mar 28 21:23:00 <janne-5011|away> yes..i like it becuse that slow speed annoyed me long time and i think more people is like me then after indded a guy come up with a new idea how to look at that iisue.
Mar 28 21:23:48 <mwester> I look forward to your testing results!
Mar 28 21:23:54 <janne-5011|away> yep!
Mar 28 21:24:07 <janne-5011|away> investments needed=)
Mar 28 21:25:31 * mwester bought a name-brand powered USB hub at lunch-time today, to do some testing of his own.
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