**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 10 02:59:57 2008
May 10 04:03:55 <LunchBox2> anyone alive? 
May 10 04:05:41 <LunchBox2> anyone............. anyone
May 10 09:55:33 <Pinky__1> Hi! I got a nslu2 yesterday, and the speed when transferring files suck bad. I'm thinking about running some alternative firmware on it, but i'm not sure which to choose. I basically need three things. faster and more stable file transfers, and to run a bittorrent client
May 10 09:55:53 <Pinky__1> which dist should i go for?
May 10 10:03:23 <Pinky__1> i'm thinking about trying unslung, but i can't find anything about the transfer speed
May 10 10:04:46 <HardDisk_WP> hm
May 10 10:04:58 <HardDisk_WP> you want to try out Debian
May 10 10:06:34 <Nightwolf> Pinky__1: what speed do you get?
May 10 10:07:15 <Pinky__1> about 1mb/s
May 10 10:07:29 <Pinky__1> if i connect the drive via usb i get about 13-14mb/s
May 10 10:08:32 <Pinky__1> also when trying to download files from it the connection is very unreliable
May 10 10:08:42 <Pinky__1> uploading is stable though
May 10 10:09:18 <Nightwolf> did you try to connect your slug directly to your pc?
May 10 10:10:20 <Pinky__1> no.. gimme a sec and i'll try
May 10 10:16:37 <Pinky__1> strange.. i'm getting ~5.5mb/s now. what could cause this loss on the LAN?
May 10 10:17:26 <Pinky__1> strange. i got about 5.5mb/s now. what could cause this on my lan? :S
May 10 10:20:59 <HardDisk_WP> Pinky__1, maybe broken cables
May 10 10:21:05 <Pinky__1> i'm on wireless through a wrt54gl running dd-wrt and the nslu2 is connected directly to the router. copying things between other computers on the lan is much faster
May 10 10:21:21 <HardDisk_WP> Pinky__1, the wireless is it maybe
May 10 10:21:32 <HardDisk_WP> wireless transfer rates can heavily suck
May 10 10:21:48 <HardDisk_WP> especially when you're not directly in front of the router
May 10 10:21:53 <Pinky__1> i did use a different cable for connecting directly to the nslu than i did when connecting it to the router, and i thought about that so i swapped the cable. same result still
May 10 10:22:16 <Pinky__1> HardDisk_WP: i get faster speeds even off the internet
May 10 10:22:23 <HardDisk_WP> strange
May 10 10:22:35 <ShadowJK> is nslu2 - router - pc by ethernet, no wireless, also slow?
May 10 10:22:53 <Pinky__1> i'll try.. brb
May 10 10:25:49 <Pinky__1> meh.. seems to be the wireless after all :( sorry for bothering you, and thanks for the help anyway
May 10 10:27:31 <HardDisk_WP> np
May 10 10:29:02 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, do you have an idea if my idea works: i want to use my nslu as timer, using cron...and i wanna plug an USB keyboard into it, and when i press space key, i want the beep stop
May 10 10:30:35 <HardDisk_WP> or, that I can use the keyboard as some kind of piano board
May 10 10:39:56 <ShadowJK> do any of the firmwares let you bind arbitrary stuff to the power button?
May 10 10:40:08 <ShadowJK> if so, the powerbutton could be your alarm-off
May 10 10:42:47 <HardDisk_WP> not really, as I use the powerbutton for turning it off and on^^
May 10 10:42:51 <HardDisk_WP> debian supports that
May 10 10:43:31 <ShadowJK> why would you want to turn it off :)
May 10 10:44:28 <HardDisk_WP> when I change the wiring in my room, which happens pretty often
May 10 10:45:59 <ShadowJK> ah
May 10 10:47:51 <ShadowJK> I want to make a battery powersupply for mine
May 10 10:48:39 <Nightwolf> HardDisk_WP: try it ;-)
May 10 10:48:57 <ShadowJK> I think it should run 4 hours on a single li-ion D cell
May 10 10:49:02 <ShadowJK> (with a boost circuit)
May 10 12:54:07 <Stephen_> anyone out there?
May 10 14:28:59 <Lunchbox2> anyone available to try and help me trouble shoot a problem? 
May 10 14:31:27 <HardDisk_WP> yeah
May 10 14:31:28 <HardDisk_WP> whazzap
May 10 15:16:49 <HardDisk_WP> on a NSLU2 without graphic output, I have attached an USB keyboard
May 10 15:17:03 <HardDisk_WP> how can I get what I type on the keyboard
May 10 15:17:03 <HardDisk_WP> ,  /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000\:00\:01.1-usb-0\:1\:1.0-event-kbd outputs garbage
May 10 15:21:55 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: Do you want to use the keyboard in a terminal or just assign certain functions to various keys?
May 10 15:23:18 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, i want to pipe the characters to the STDIN of php process
May 10 15:23:24 <HardDisk_WP> this in turn will then call beep
May 10 15:23:41 <HardDisk_WP> so that I can use the slug as mini "piano"
May 10 15:23:58 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, anyway, we can talk German if you like
May 10 15:24:12 <treitmayr> hmm, either language is ok :)
May 10 15:25:25 <HardDisk_WP> ^^
May 10 15:25:26 <treitmayr> I just interpreted the output of the event interface to do stuff
May 10 15:25:33 <HardDisk_WP> ok
May 10 15:25:49 <treitmayr> the binary output you saw can be interpreted by different programs
May 10 15:26:20 <treitmayr> eg. "evtest", "lirc" (that's more for remote controls) or my own "keyevent"
May 10 15:26:55 <treitmayr> evtest and keyevent do not only give you a single character but also additional information
May 10 15:26:58 <HardDisk_WP> Event: time 1210433210.904265, type 1 (Key), code 28 (Enter), value 0
May 10 15:26:58 <HardDisk_WP> Event: time 1210433210.904281, type 0 (Reset), code 0 (Reset), value 0
May 10 15:27:03 <HardDisk_WP> cool
May 10 15:27:09 <treitmayr> exactly
May 10 15:27:38 <treitmayr> for keyevent I added some more timing information - long press, "double click"
May 10 15:28:21 <treitmayr> it the evtest output enough for your needs?
May 10 15:28:32 <HardDisk_WP> its better than nothing ;)
May 10 15:28:46 <HardDisk_WP> can I please take a look at your "keyevent"?
May 10 15:29:03 <HardDisk_WP> LOL http://chezphil.org/slugterm/slugbox.jpeg
May 10 15:29:06 <HardDisk_WP> thats cool
May 10 15:29:16 <treitmayr> ok, do you have a cross-build envionment set up?
May 10 15:29:32 <HardDisk_WP> no, I build native on the nslu
May 10 15:29:46 <treitmayr> BTW, I just a regular remote control + USB dongle for stuff like on the pic, just no display :(
May 10 15:29:56 <treitmayr> ah, ok, then have a look at...
May 10 15:30:17 <HardDisk_WP> well, I'm gonna use my C-Control for display output^^ have you ever seen a CC?
May 10 15:30:36 <treitmayr> CC? nope
May 10 15:31:44 <treitmayr> link is: http://www.devbase.at/svn/view.cgi/keyevent/trunk/?root=nslu2 (unfortunately there is no direct svn access, bit it is effectively just on source file in the src/ directory
May 10 15:31:47 <HardDisk_WP> they're pretty sweet, can do a lot of stuff...but I only gonna use it as cheap RS232-to-display converter
May 10 15:31:47 <treitmayr> )
May 10 15:33:04 <treitmayr> aha, there seem to be quite a lot of products available for c-control, nice
May 10 15:35:16 <treitmayr> I did not use keyevent in a while so I am not 100% sure how it does on very recent kernels
May 10 15:36:57 <HardDisk_WP> it's 2.6.18
May 10 15:37:11 <HardDisk_WP> stock debian^^
May 10 15:37:23 <treitmayr> ah, that's not too recent ;)
May 10 15:38:00 <HardDisk_WP> argh, fuck autoconf
May 10 15:38:37 <treitmayr> hmm, you could probably just directly compile the file
May 10 15:39:00 <HardDisk_WP> no
May 10 15:39:03 <HardDisk_WP> it misses config.h
May 10 15:39:13 <treitmayr> just create an empty one
May 10 15:39:20 <treitmayr> that should do it, I guess
May 10 15:42:11 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: any success?
May 10 15:43:11 <HardDisk_WP> configure.in: 9: required file `./[config.h].in' not found
May 10 15:43:17 <HardDisk_WP> it's not in SVN
May 10 15:43:23 <treitmayr> oh
May 10 15:44:39 <treitmayr> it should be generated by autoheader
May 10 15:45:12 <treitmayr> maybe autoreconf
May 10 15:46:06 <treitmayr> but I still think if you create an empty config.h and then directly compile keyevent.c in the src/ directory, that should work...
May 10 15:46:45 <treitmayr> gcc -o keyevent keyevent.c
May 10 15:47:13 <HardDisk_WP> i try
May 10 15:47:45 <HardDisk_WP> works
May 10 15:47:48 <HardDisk_WP> how to invoke it?
May 10 15:48:37 <treitmayr> ok, the first two parameters are VID + PID
May 10 15:49:33 <treitmayr> then the timeout values:
May 10 15:50:02 <HardDisk_WP> 04b4:8328
May 10 15:50:12 <treitmayr> s/:/ /
May 10 15:50:50 <treitmayr> hmm, if I could remember whether the durations are specified in ms or us...
May 10 15:51:16 <HardDisk_WP> works with zero
May 10 15:51:19 <HardDisk_WP> all zero
May 10 15:51:26 <treitmayr> should be milliseconds
May 10 15:52:15 <treitmayr> so: keyevent 04b4 8328 1000 1000 400 10000
May 10 15:52:29 <treitmayr> for example
May 10 15:52:38 <HardDisk_WP> k
May 10 15:52:40 <treitmayr> all zero, hmm, a corner case :/
May 10 15:52:44 <HardDisk_WP> well, i have all zero now
May 10 15:52:45 <HardDisk_WP> it works
May 10 15:52:46 <HardDisk_WP> but
May 10 15:53:13 <HardDisk_WP> die pfeiltasten und der einfg-block (also die tasten drumrum) geben auch noch sysrg pressed/released
May 10 15:53:48 <HardDisk_WP> ahf, jetzt gehts mit den werten
May 10 15:53:49 <HardDisk_WP> passt
May 10 15:53:54 <HardDisk_WP> is genau was ich brauche
May 10 15:54:50 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, jetzt muss ich nur noch den debugkram zu beginn weghauen dann geht alles
May 10 15:54:53 <treitmayr> but: all zeros will give you 1000s for the delays, but you may not need them anyway
May 10 15:54:56 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, exzellente arbeit, danke
May 10 15:54:58 <treitmayr> ok, passt
May 10 15:55:22 <HardDisk_WP> sollte für meine zwecke ausreichen :)
May 10 15:55:28 <treitmayr> ok
May 10 15:55:32 <HardDisk_WP> jetzt muss ich nur noch nen USB-Hub auftreiben
May 10 15:56:04 <treitmayr> ja, die USB-Anschluesse gehen schnell aus
May 10 15:56:35 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, irgendeine idee wie ich die drei LEDs kontrolliere?
May 10 15:59:45 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: That should also work via the event interface, but I don't know a simple program to do that...
May 10 16:02:56 <HardDisk_WP> i think it just is writing some commands into the devicefile, but i have no idea what ones
May 10 16:03:41 <treitmayr> hmm, I would also have to do some research to find out...
May 10 16:05:09 <HardDisk_WP> you dont have to^^
May 10 16:08:22 <treitmayr> there is some information here: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6429 including sample code but looks more like reading the current status... you will find out :)
May 10 16:17:24 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, well, I have some problems with the double-pressed stuff...but elsewhile its working perfect
May 10 16:17:53 <HardDisk_WP> the problem is that when I hold a key pressed
May 10 16:18:16 <HardDisk_WP> it has three press events
May 10 16:18:24 <HardDisk_WP> but i gonna sort that out
May 10 16:18:57 <lunchbox2> I'm looking for a little help.  My HDD that was attached to my NSLU2 is no longer being recognized as being formated.  I've attached the drive to my linux machine and found that Gparted also finds it as not formated.  Its saying "sdb: unknown partition table" - i was wondering if anyone had some magic on how to recover the data....assuming its there yet...
May 10 16:19:23 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: you can either tweak the source code or pipe the output through "grep -v double", for example
May 10 16:23:17 <lunchbox2> anyone? 
May 10 16:24:45 <treitmayr> lunchbox2: what does "dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C" tell? (FYI that's the Master Boot Record)
May 10 16:25:30 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, doesnt matter, i solved the issue^^
May 10 16:25:45 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: fine!
May 10 16:25:50 <treitmayr> lunchbox2: if possible copy it to http://pastebin.com/
May 10 16:26:27 <lunchbox2> its actually not even finding the device but it shows up on gpart....go figure
May 10 16:26:28 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, i'm gonna write the PHP program in a way that you can pipe its output to the STDOUT of a program
May 10 16:26:37 <HardDisk_WP> and there is no diff for the program
May 10 16:27:55 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: so you just translate the keyevent output to single characters, right?
May 10 16:28:14 <HardDisk_WP> yeah
May 10 16:28:23 <HardDisk_WP> but I also parse the modifier keys
May 10 16:28:29 <HardDisk_WP> like shift, capslock, ctrl, alt etc
May 10 16:28:56 <HardDisk_WP> for example, simple press of a echoes "a"
May 10 16:29:01 <HardDisk_WP> but with shift, "A"
May 10 16:29:07 <treitmayr> ah, that will be quite some task, for the whole 102 keys (or so) ;)
May 10 16:29:10 <treitmayr> wow
May 10 16:30:27 <treitmayr> lunchbox2: there is no /dev/sdb? In the other channel I saw dmesg outputting some messages about sdb
May 10 16:31:04 <lunchbox2> Yep - that works for some reason but trying to access the drive doesn't - I don't get it 
May 10 16:31:10 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, not really, you just need something to parse the modifier and their effects
May 10 16:31:37 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, i'll give you the src when i'm done
May 10 16:35:23 <lunchbox2> It also shows up as a USB2.0 Storage Device on USB devices...
May 10 16:36:49 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: Ok, that would be nice - for the day when the buttons of my remote control will not be sufficient anymore...
May 10 16:39:27 <treitmayr> lunchbox2: accessing the drive as a raw byte stream should really work, with and without proper partitions. Maybe udev does not create the device node though(?)
May 10 16:39:52 <lunchbox2> From the device manager.... 
May 10 16:39:54 <lunchbox2> Key: block.device Type: string Value: /dev/sdb 
May 10 16:40:16 <treitmayr> there it is
May 10 16:40:35 <lunchbox2> You guys are way beyond me on that one - I'm just trying to find something to get this to work... sparking ideas perhaps
May 10 16:42:15 <HardDisk_WP> hm
May 10 16:42:19 <lunchbox2> Progress....xxxxxxx@silverstar:~$ /dev/sdb
May 10 16:42:20 <lunchbox2> bash: /dev/sdb: Permission denied
May 10 16:42:26 <HardDisk_WP> you not root
May 10 16:42:26 <HardDisk_WP> man
May 10 16:42:38 <HardDisk_WP> run "su"
May 10 16:42:39 <treitmayr> right!
May 10 16:42:46 <HardDisk_WP> then "file -s /dev/sdb*"
May 10 16:42:54 <HardDisk_WP> file shall detect what is going on
May 10 16:43:04 <HardDisk_WP> it normally detects a lot of stuff.
May 10 16:43:23 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, the basic stuff is working :)
May 10 16:43:51 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: great!
May 10 16:44:40 <lunchbox2> I'm going to bash my head into a wall - I can't remember my root pw
May 10 16:44:57 <treitmayr> lunchbox2: can you do "sudo bash"?
May 10 16:45:20 <lunchbox2> yep
May 10 16:45:45 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# file -s /dev/sdb*
May 10 16:45:46 <lunchbox2> /dev/sdb: writable, no read permission
May 10 16:45:48 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~#
May 10 16:47:39 <HardDisk_WP> that is not good.
May 10 16:47:55 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, ls -lah /dev/sdb*
May 10 16:48:01 <lunchbox2> :'(
May 10 16:48:29 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~#  ls -lah /dev/sdb*
May 10 16:48:31 <lunchbox2> brw-rw---- 1 root plugdev 8, 16 2008-05-10 05:58 /dev/sdb
May 10 16:50:06 <HardDisk_WP> thou have read permission
May 10 16:50:10 <HardDisk_WP> id -a please
May 10 16:50:27 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, http://s-m.homeip.net/evparser.php
May 10 16:50:34 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# id -a
May 10 16:50:34 <HardDisk_WP> it's sufficient for hello world :D
May 10 16:50:35 <lunchbox2> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
May 10 16:50:39 <HardDisk_WP> k
May 10 16:50:51 <HardDisk_WP> now file /dev/sd*
May 10 16:51:01 <HardDisk_WP> notice the missing -s and the b
May 10 16:51:15 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# file /dev/sd*
May 10 16:51:16 <lunchbox2> /dev/sda:  block special (8/0)
May 10 16:51:17 <lunchbox2> /dev/sda1: block special (8/1)
May 10 16:51:19 <lunchbox2> /dev/sdb:  block special (8/16)
May 10 16:51:26 <HardDisk_WP> okay
May 10 16:51:36 <HardDisk_WP> now file -s /dev/sdb
May 10 16:52:07 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# file -s /dev/sdb
May 10 16:52:09 <lunchbox2> /dev/sdb: writable, no read permission
May 10 16:52:11 <lunchbox2>     
May 10 16:53:11 <HardDisk_WP> strange
May 10 16:53:12 <HardDisk_WP> you have w
May 10 16:53:16 <HardDisk_WP> and r
May 10 16:53:33 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, chmod 777 /dev/sdb
May 10 16:53:39 <HardDisk_WP> then again file -s /dev/sdb
May 10 16:54:17 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# chmod 777 /dev/sdb
May 10 16:54:19 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# file -s /dev/sdb
May 10 16:54:21 <lunchbox2> /dev/sdb: writable, executable, no read permission
May 10 16:54:35 <HardDisk_WP> o_O
May 10 16:54:39 <HardDisk_WP> for hell
May 10 16:54:48 <HardDisk_WP> that is not possible, something is wrecked.
May 10 16:54:48 <lunchbox2> it's on the floor I can just kick it...
May 10 16:54:51 <HardDisk_WP> no!
May 10 16:54:54 <treitmayr> that's a tough nut
May 10 16:55:00 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, the PHP script?
May 10 16:55:18 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, hmm...you know pastebin? then run "dmesg", and pastebin its output
May 10 16:55:30 <treitmayr> ah, no, the disk, not the script!
May 10 16:55:37 <HardDisk_WP> ^^
May 10 16:55:51 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: Thanks, just took a look at it and will try it...
May 10 16:55:57 <HardDisk_WP> :)
May 10 16:56:11 <HardDisk_WP> beware, it doesnt support anything other than A-Z, 0-9 and space
May 10 16:56:15 <HardDisk_WP> oh, enter
May 10 16:56:39 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: yep
May 10 16:57:23 <lunchbox2> http://pastebin.com/d7af4174f
May 10 16:58:52 <HardDisk_WP> #
May 10 16:58:53 <HardDisk_WP> #
May 10 16:58:53 <HardDisk_WP> [  202.654232] sd 4:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
May 10 16:58:54 <HardDisk_WP> #
May 10 16:58:54 <HardDisk_WP> [  202.654239] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Result: hostbyte=DID_ABORT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
May 10 16:59:16 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, disconnect it from powersupply and USB, then replug
May 10 16:59:26 <HardDisk_WP> and for what the hell do you still use a floppy drive?!
May 10 16:59:46 <treitmayr> :)
May 10 16:59:51 <lunchbox2> I don't - but it was laying around so I put it in :)
May 10 17:00:33 <HardDisk_WP> ah kk
May 10 17:01:02 <lunchbox2> done
May 10 17:01:46 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, now, file -s /dev/sdb*
May 10 17:02:12 * treitmayr crosses his fingers
May 10 17:02:50 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# file -s /dev/sdb*
May 10 17:02:51 <lunchbox2> /dev/sdb*: ERROR: cannot open `/dev/sdb*' (No such file or directoy)
May 10 17:03:14 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# file -s /dev/sd*
May 10 17:03:16 <lunchbox2> /dev/sda:  x86 boot sector, extended partition table (last)\011
May 10 17:03:17 <lunchbox2> /dev/sda1: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x52, OEM-ID "NTFS    ", sectors/cluster 8, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 63, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x80)
May 10 17:03:21 <HardDisk_WP> :)
May 10 17:03:26 <HardDisk_WP> oh wait
May 10 17:03:30 <HardDisk_WP> what the ...
May 10 17:03:34 <HardDisk_WP> again, dmesg please
May 10 17:03:38 <HardDisk_WP> (in pastebin)
May 10 17:04:57 <lunchbox2> http://pastebin.com/m7423c714
May 10 17:07:48 <HardDisk_WP> [ 1879.584087] usb 2-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
May 10 17:08:04 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, do you have an  nvidia Nforce based motherboard?
May 10 17:08:23 <HardDisk_WP> please plugout again, and choose a different usb port
May 10 17:08:24 <lunchbox2> yep
May 10 17:08:30 <lunchbox2> ok
May 10 17:08:38 <HardDisk_WP> nforce is pretty buggy sometimes with USB
May 10 17:09:53 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# file -s /dev/sd*
May 10 17:09:54 <lunchbox2> /dev/sda:  x86 boot sector, extended partition table (last)\011
May 10 17:09:56 <lunchbox2> /dev/sda1: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x52, OEM-ID "NTFS    ", sectors/cluster 8, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 63, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x80)
May 10 17:10:05 <HardDisk_WP> sdb is interesting
May 10 17:10:14 <HardDisk_WP> but it isnt there again
May 10 17:10:18 <HardDisk_WP> nforce is fucked
May 10 17:10:26 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, do you have another machine?
May 10 17:10:32 <HardDisk_WP> which is not nforce based
May 10 17:10:34 <lunchbox2> nope
May 10 17:10:39 <lunchbox2> :(
May 10 17:10:40 <HardDisk_WP> fuck...
May 10 17:10:45 <treitmayr> could there be a problem with the USB case?
May 10 17:10:46 <HardDisk_WP> PCI to USB extender?
May 10 17:10:49 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, no
May 10 17:10:53 <HardDisk_WP> this is NForce bug
May 10 17:11:05 <lunchbox2> no I don't 
May 10 17:11:18 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, hmm...do you have an USB hub?
May 10 17:11:21 <lunchbox2> I can just install the drive to the machien though
May 10 17:11:23 <HardDisk_WP> how is the drive attached?
May 10 17:11:27 <HardDisk_WP> ok, do this
May 10 17:11:37 <HardDisk_WP> but please, only when the machine is turned off
May 10 17:13:53 <lunchbox2> go ahead and install the drive as an internal drive? 
May 10 17:14:26 <HardDisk_WP> yes
May 10 17:14:56 <lunchbox2> ok - sorry I thought you had another recommendation that was coming - I shall return
May 10 17:32:29 <lunchbox2> Alrighty - i'm back
May 10 17:33:53 <HardDisk_WP> :)
May 10 17:34:01 <HardDisk_WP> now open rootshell
May 10 17:34:09 <lunchbox2> done
May 10 17:34:10 <HardDisk_WP> then file -s /dev/hd*
May 10 17:34:20 <HardDisk_WP> one of these shall be the disk
May 10 17:34:29 <HardDisk_WP> does the disk spin up actually?
May 10 17:34:37 <lunchbox2> yep
May 10 17:35:03 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# file -s /dev/hd*
May 10 17:35:04 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdc:  x86 boot sector; partition 2: ID=0x5, starthead 254, startsector 3823          4700, 1751085 sectors, code offset 0x48
May 10 17:35:06 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdc1: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data (needs journal recovery) (large fi          les)
May 10 17:35:07 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdc2: x86 boot sector, extended partition table (last)\011
May 10 17:35:09 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdc5: Linux/i386 swap file (new style) 1 (4K pages) size 218876 pages
May 10 17:35:10 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdd:  data
May 10 17:35:29 <HardDisk_WP> ah okay
May 10 17:35:33 <HardDisk_WP> it is hdc?
May 10 17:35:49 <HardDisk_WP> then fsck -Crf /dev/hdc1
May 10 17:36:17 <lunchbox2> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
May 10 17:36:18 <lunchbox2> e2fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
May 10 17:36:20 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdc1 is mounted.
May 10 17:36:21 <lunchbox2> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
May 10 17:36:23 <lunchbox2> SEVERE filesystem damage.
May 10 17:36:51 <lunchbox2> run with it? 
May 10 17:36:57 <HardDisk_WP> no
May 10 17:37:06 <HardDisk_WP> fuck
May 10 17:37:11 <HardDisk_WP> run "mount" please
May 10 17:37:16 <HardDisk_WP> then pastebin it
May 10 17:37:21 <HardDisk_WP> and dmesg also
May 10 17:38:16 <lunchbox2> mount : http://pastebin.com/d17f63778
May 10 17:39:50 <lunchbox2> dmesg: http://pastebin.com/d2f905fdb
May 10 17:41:25 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, the drive SATA or IDE
May 10 17:41:32 <lunchbox2> IDE
May 10 17:41:43 <HardDisk_WP> #
May 10 17:41:43 <HardDisk_WP> [   41.870329] hdd: WDC WD1200JB-22GVA0, ATA DISK drive
May 10 17:41:47 <HardDisk_WP> is it this model?
May 10 17:41:49 <lunchbox2> Yes
May 10 17:41:57 <HardDisk_WP> #
May 10 17:41:57 <HardDisk_WP> #
May 10 17:41:59 <HardDisk_WP> [   42.011839]  hdd: unknown partition table
May 10 17:42:19 <HardDisk_WP> this => not good
May 10 17:42:34 <HardDisk_WP> somehow the partition table, is fucked up
May 10 17:42:42 <lunchbox2> wonderful....
May 10 17:42:47 <HardDisk_WP> type /join #ubuntu
May 10 17:43:06 <HardDisk_WP> then ask if someone can help you with a disk with broken partition table
May 10 17:43:18 * treitmayr wonders what "dd if=/dev/hdd bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C" would tell
May 10 17:43:43 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, oh, do what treitmayr says
May 10 17:43:59 <lunchbox2> got it 
May 10 17:44:11 <HardDisk_WP> ?
May 10 17:44:29 <lunchbox2> just take the hex section to pastebin? 
May 10 17:44:54 <HardDisk_WP> uh^^
May 10 17:45:01 <HardDisk_WP> the whole output
May 10 17:45:08 <lunchbox2> k
May 10 17:45:35 <lunchbox2> http://pastebin.com/d60204d06
May 10 17:46:51 <HardDisk_WP> this looks...eh...fucked
May 10 17:47:07 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, any idea?
May 10 17:47:27 <treitmayr> right, does not look good at all
May 10 17:47:48 <lunchbox2> thats not reassuring 
May 10 17:47:48 <treitmayr> it must have been overwritten
May 10 17:48:02 <treitmayr> I think you have to recreate a partition table
May 10 17:48:17 <treitmayr> wait
May 10 17:49:40 <treitmayr> how many partition did you have on that disk?
May 10 17:50:13 <lunchbox2> should be just one
May 10 17:51:19 <HardDisk_WP> hm
May 10 17:51:49 <treitmayr> it still looks like it was overwritten
May 10 17:52:01 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, if its just one: is it possible to write a general partition table to it, with one big partition ext3?
May 10 17:52:07 <treitmayr> there is no signature in the last two bytes (should be 55 AA)
May 10 17:52:16 <treitmayr> true
May 10 17:52:22 <lunchbox2> the disk or the partition table? I don't know how the disk woudl have been overwritten seeming it was the drive attached
May 10 17:52:33 <treitmayr> I did some stuff like that for vmware a while ago
May 10 17:52:36 <treitmayr> anyway
May 10 17:53:11 <treitmayr> lunchbox2: that's a good question...
May 10 17:54:11 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, the best would be to write some parttable creating one huge partition ext3
May 10 17:54:31 <treitmayr> i believe so, was it ext3?
May 10 17:54:32 <HardDisk_WP> then we at least can search for the 1st sector of the linux partition
May 10 17:54:37 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, doesnt matter
May 10 17:54:46 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, we let file detect what type it is/was
May 10 17:56:16 <treitmayr> where should it detect it from? if it was ntfs or fat or something?
May 10 17:56:17 <lunchbox2> I'm not sure if it was ext3 or not - I formated it years ago when I first messed with unslung software - so if thats what it uses thats what it was
May 10 17:57:46 <treitmayr> ok, I never wrote a partition table on a hardisk containing data using fdisk, for example
May 10 17:58:01 <treitmayr> but I hope it does not write to some other parts of the disk
May 10 18:00:01 <treitmayr> let's try it?
May 10 18:00:17 <lunchbox2> running out of options why not
May 10 18:01:02 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, file's detection is _magic_
May 10 18:01:09 <HardDisk_WP> it detects every big FS out there
May 10 18:01:20 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, fdisk only manipulates partition tabke
May 10 18:01:25 <HardDisk_WP> create one big
May 10 18:01:28 <treitmayr> then we can go ahead
May 10 18:01:35 <HardDisk_WP> then reboot
May 10 18:01:41 <HardDisk_WP> this is important
May 10 18:01:48 <HardDisk_WP> else the kernel won't recognize
May 10 18:02:01 <HardDisk_WP> then you can run file, fsck etc
May 10 18:02:27 <HardDisk_WP> afk, eating
May 10 18:04:28 <treitmayr> lunchbox2: need help with fdisk?
May 10 18:04:56 <lunchbox2> probably so - I could probably do it in gparted but I'd rather follwo some instructions
May 10 18:07:43 <treitmayr> fdisk /dev/hdd
May 10 18:08:02 <treitmayr> "p" should tell you that there are no partition
May 10 18:08:03 <treitmayr> s
May 10 18:08:20 <lunchbox2> Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel
May 10 18:08:23 <lunchbox2> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x1527c5a9.
May 10 18:08:24 <lunchbox2> Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
May 10 18:08:26 <lunchbox2> After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable.
May 10 18:08:27 <lunchbox2> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 14593.
May 10 18:08:29 <lunchbox2> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
May 10 18:08:30 <lunchbox2> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
May 10 18:08:32 <lunchbox2> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
May 10 18:08:33 <lunchbox2> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
May 10 18:08:35 <lunchbox2>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
May 10 18:08:36 <lunchbox2> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)
May 10 18:08:48 <treitmayr> ok, now "n" for new
May 10 18:09:05 <treitmayr> "p" - "1"
May 10 18:09:28 <lunchbox2> first cylinder? 
May 10 18:09:37 <lunchbox2> First cylinder (1-14593, default 1)
May 10 18:09:39 <treitmayr> it should suggest 1, so just enter
May 10 18:09:51 <treitmayr> and again just "enter"
May 10 18:10:01 <treitmayr> for the last cylinder
May 10 18:10:09 <lunchbox2> Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-14593, default 14593):
May 10 18:10:10 <lunchbox2> Using default value 14593
May 10 18:10:12 <lunchbox2> Command (m for help):     
May 10 18:10:44 <treitmayr> "p" should show the new partition already
May 10 18:10:59 <lunchbox2> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
May 10 18:11:01 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdd1               1       14593   117218241   83  Linux
May 10 18:11:07 <treitmayr> ok
May 10 18:11:47 <treitmayr> now just "w" for writing it to the disk
May 10 18:12:15 <lunchbox2> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
May 10 18:12:16 <lunchbox2> Syncing disks.
May 10 18:12:20 <lunchbox2> k
May 10 18:12:21 <treitmayr> and as HardDisk_WP said, reboot
May 10 18:12:36 <lunchbox2> and cross my fingers
May 10 18:12:55 <lunchbox2> I'll be back.... with either good news or bad news :) either way I appreciate the help
May 10 18:13:01 <treitmayr> ok
May 10 18:16:04 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, my piano is working :)
May 10 18:16:05 <HardDisk_WP> cool
May 10 18:16:40 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, the piano is located at http://s-m.homeip.net/piano.php
May 10 18:16:50 <HardDisk_WP> call it via php evparser.php | php piano.php
May 10 18:17:23 <HardDisk_WP> hey lunchbox2 :)
May 10 18:17:26 <lunchbox2> IT WORKED!
May 10 18:17:36 <lunchbox2> YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!
May 10 18:17:36 <HardDisk_WP> nice :)
May 10 18:17:39 <HardDisk_WP> thx
May 10 18:17:42 <treitmayr> great!
May 10 18:17:58 <lunchbox2> WOO HOO!
May 10 18:18:01 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, now: fsck the partition!!!!!
May 10 18:18:04 <HardDisk_WP> open shell
May 10 18:18:16 <HardDisk_WP> run fsck -Crf /dev/hdd1
May 10 18:18:28 <HardDisk_WP> this shall repair your partition
May 10 18:19:38 <lunchbox2> root@silverstar:~# fsck -Crf /dev/hdd1
May 10 18:19:39 <lunchbox2> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
May 10 18:19:41 <lunchbox2> e2fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
May 10 18:19:42 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdd1 is mounted.
May 10 18:19:44 <lunchbox2> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
May 10 18:19:45 <lunchbox2> SEVERE filesystem damage.
May 10 18:19:47 <lunchbox2> Do you really want to continue (y/n)?
May 10 18:20:02 <treitmayr> lunchbox2: first unmound the partition
May 10 18:20:12 <HardDisk_WP> umount /dev/hdd1
May 10 18:20:48 <lunchbox2> running
May 10 18:21:34 <lunchbox2> inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. Fix <y>?
May 10 18:22:31 <treitmayr> i guess so. HardDisk_WP?
May 10 18:23:31 <HardDisk_WP> hmm...
May 10 18:23:32 <HardDisk_WP> n
May 10 18:23:39 <HardDisk_WP> at least for now
May 10 18:23:46 <HardDisk_WP> i want to know what other errors are
May 10 18:23:49 <lunchbox2> ok
May 10 18:24:58 <lunchbox2> so while this runs - its time to make sure this doesn't happen again - I was using this HD on a Nslu2 obviously - I was stupid and never bought a 2nd hd to back this one up - do you think I should just buy another hd or think about buying linksys's new NAS
May 10 18:25:48 <lunchbox2> ass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
May 10 18:25:49 <lunchbox2> Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.  Fix<y>? no
May 10 18:25:51 <lunchbox2> Inode 1507347 was part of the orphaned inode list.  IGNORED.
May 10 18:25:52 <lunchbox2> Inode 2392114 was part of the orphaned inode list.  IGNORED.
May 10 18:25:54 <lunchbox2> Pass 2: Checking directory structure
May 10 18:25:55 <lunchbox2> Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
May 10 18:25:57 <lunchbox2> Pass 4: Checking reference counts
May 10 18:25:58 <lunchbox2> Pass 5: Checking group summary information
May 10 18:26:00 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdd1: ********** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors **********
May 10 18:26:01 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdd1: 30792/14630912 files (2.8% non-contiguous), 5436561/29260381 blocks
May 10 18:26:42 <HardDisk_WP> okay...
May 10 18:26:57 <HardDisk_WP> it should be safe to re-run and fix
May 10 18:27:24 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, another HD...or does anyone know if linksys' new NAS also is supported by linux? treitmayr ?
May 10 18:27:59 <lunchbox2> unslung has some additional software out there for it 
May 10 18:28:03 <treitmayr> hmm, I took a quick look at the new NAS but it looks weaker than the slug
May 10 18:28:37 <lunchbox2> its also cheaper to just buy a hd then a whole new system that would require 2 new SATAs 
May 10 18:28:57 <lunchbox2> i just don't need this problem again
May 10 18:29:13 <treitmayr> sure ;)
May 10 18:30:03 <treitmayr> I personally use a combination of 2nd harddisk + DVDs (the latter mostly for audio/video)
May 10 18:30:47 <treitmayr> depending on how frequent the data changes
May 10 18:31:11 <lunchbox2> Inode 1507347 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
May 10 18:31:12 <lunchbox2> Inode 2392114 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
May 10 18:31:14 <lunchbox2> Pass 2: Checking directory structure
May 10 18:31:15 <lunchbox2> Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
May 10 18:31:17 <lunchbox2> Pass 4: Checking reference counts
May 10 18:31:18 <lunchbox2> Pass 5: Checking group summary information
May 10 18:31:20 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdd1: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
May 10 18:31:21 <lunchbox2> /dev/hdd1: 30792/14630912 files (2.8% non-contiguous), 5436561/29260381 blocks
May 10 18:31:26 <lunchbox2> yeah - I might do that
May 10 18:31:47 <lunchbox2> when this crashed I realized how much stuff is actually on here 
May 10 18:31:47 <treitmayr> now you can remount it and check if everythink looks ok
May 10 18:33:38 <lunchbox2> looks ok although I can't open files - "Cound not open location; you might not have persmission to open the file."
May 10 18:34:20 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: just saw your link to piano.php (I was probably overcooking my noodles at the time), will try it out, thanks!
May 10 18:35:09 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, if you wait some minutes, you will even have recording support^^
May 10 18:35:40 <treitmayr> wow
May 10 18:36:27 <lunchbox2> treitmayr, so does this mean that I can reinstall the drive to the USB case 
May 10 18:36:59 <treitmayr> aehm
May 10 18:37:01 <HardDisk_WP> yes
May 10 18:37:42 <lunchbox2> ok - we'll see what happens - thanks again guys - i'm off to eat - buy another USB drive and then get the rest of this working
May 10 18:37:52 <HardDisk_WP> ^^
May 10 18:38:05 <treitmayr> bye, lunchbox2
May 10 18:38:30 <lunchbox2> thanks again - you guys rock
May 10 18:38:43 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, for some reason when using the two phps together, sometimes there comes spontaneous output...but i cant figure out where these get created
May 10 18:38:59 <HardDisk_WP> because i dont press any key, and evparse.php alone doesnt do anything
May 10 18:39:17 <treitmayr> output like "idle" or similar?
May 10 18:39:20 <HardDisk_WP> oh
May 10 18:39:21 <HardDisk_WP> Notice: Undefined offset:  1 in /static/slugpiano/evparser.php on line 19
May 10 18:39:22 <HardDisk_WP> yes
May 10 18:39:26 <HardDisk_WP> its the idle stuff
May 10 18:39:27 <HardDisk_WP> lol
May 10 18:39:46 <HardDisk_WP> i misspelled the filtercode which should filter this^^
May 10 18:39:48 <treitmayr> hmm, that was something I had to include for my buggy USB sound card!
May 10 18:42:06 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, [KEY_COFFEE] = "Coffee", 
May 10 18:42:12 <HardDisk_WP> you run a Mac keyboard??
May 10 18:42:25 <treitmayr> coffee?
May 10 18:42:39 <treitmayr> I just copied the stuff from evtest
May 10 18:42:53 <treitmayr> but that's actually a good idea
May 10 18:43:02 <HardDisk_WP> Lol
May 10 18:43:10 <treitmayr> btw, I think the "beeper" does not really play frequencies well (did not check with your program, but some weeks ago")
May 10 18:43:45 <treitmayr> wanted to give me feedback how well the reception of my dvb-t receiver is
May 10 18:43:59 <HardDisk_WP> you run a DVB-T tuner on the NSLU?!
May 10 18:44:03 <treitmayr> but I could hardly tell whether the tone was rising or falling
May 10 18:44:05 <HardDisk_WP> I tried this once
May 10 18:44:07 <treitmayr> sure
May 10 18:44:10 <treitmayr> :)
May 10 18:44:11 <HardDisk_WP> it instantly crashed here
May 10 18:44:16 <treitmayr> I can even record ...
May 10 18:44:16 <HardDisk_WP> the nslu was overloaded
May 10 18:44:20 <treitmayr> that it did too...
May 10 18:44:24 <treitmayr> before I fixed it
May 10 18:44:33 <treitmayr> can even record 2 streams at the same time
May 10 18:44:36 <HardDisk_WP> well, i unplugged the dvb-t tuner and it reacted again
May 10 18:44:43 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, WTF
May 10 18:44:53 <HardDisk_WP> how the hell did you do this?!?!
May 10 18:44:58 <treitmayr> there was some problem with the size of the dma buffer
May 10 18:45:13 <treitmayr> it is a terratec cinergy t2 diversity
May 10 18:45:22 <HardDisk_WP> where was the bug?
May 10 18:45:27 <HardDisk_WP> mine is conexant stuff
May 10 18:45:41 <treitmayr> the dma buffer was > 4096 (something like 38kB)
May 10 18:45:55 <treitmayr> and there is code in the kernel to reject that
May 10 18:46:06 <treitmayr> so when I connected the serial cable
May 10 18:46:20 <treitmayr> I saw the error messages and dug until I found the cause
May 10 18:46:34 <treitmayr> patched it to 4096 and now it works
May 10 18:46:52 <treitmayr> I even have a tiny http server that according to the URL tunes to one of the channels
May 10 18:47:00 <HardDisk_WP> ROFL
May 10 18:47:02 <treitmayr> and allows me to watch my my PC
May 10 18:47:04 <HardDisk_WP> dude, that is cool
May 10 18:47:22 <treitmayr> but it is a pain with these tiny antennas
May 10 18:47:22 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, can you please tell me where you patched?
May 10 18:47:33 <treitmayr> sure, one moment
May 10 18:49:15 <treitmayr> sed -i 's%buffersize = 39480%buffersize = 4096%' drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dib0700_devices.c
May 10 18:49:47 <treitmayr> maybe there is something similar possible for the conexant driver
May 10 18:51:00 <treitmayr> hmm, the buffer size seems to be 8192 in cxusb.c (if that's what is used)
May 10 18:51:12 <HardDisk_WP> hmmm...
May 10 18:51:22 <treitmayr> upps, maybe not
May 10 18:51:25 <HardDisk_WP> i think i gonna stop all unneccessary stuff on the slug
May 10 18:51:27 <HardDisk_WP> and then try
May 10 18:52:36 <treitmayr> yes, it seems to be 8192
May 10 18:53:04 <treitmayr> I also increased .count from 4 to 7, just in case
May 10 18:56:07 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: I checked with kernel 2.6.25, not sure how your version 2.6.18(?) looks like regarding cxusb.c
May 10 18:56:17 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, http://pastebin.ca/1013961
May 10 18:56:25 <HardDisk_WP> this is dmesg fail
May 10 18:57:03 <treitmayr> bad
May 10 18:57:25 <HardDisk_WP> BUG: warning at arch/arm/mm/consistent.c:363/dma_free_coherent()
May 10 18:59:57 <treitmayr> there seems to be an ongoing issue with that
May 10 19:02:19 <DocMAX> hello
May 10 19:02:31 <DocMAX> anyone got VDR on NSLU2 working?
May 10 19:02:33 <treitmayr> now I am not sure if my adapter or its driver is just different or if it is the newer kernel or the new DVB-T drivers
May 10 19:03:24 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, what kernel do you run?
May 10 19:04:58 <treitmayr> Linux NSLU2 2.6.25-rc6 #1 Thu Apr 3 23:23:57 CEST 2008 armv5teb unknown
May 10 19:05:19 <treitmayr> + the dvb driver from around 4 weeks ago
May 10 19:05:32 <DocMAX> right now i have debien etch on nslu2
May 10 19:05:45 <DocMAX> is it possible to upgrtade to lenny?
May 10 19:08:56 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, mmh...how do I crosscompile a kernel?
May 10 19:09:06 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: it was a bit tedious to compile that kernel version because there is no config-file for the slug yet
May 10 19:09:13 <treitmayr> I use the MasterMakefile
May 10 19:09:16 <HardDisk_WP> I dont want to compile Linux on the Slug ^^
May 10 19:09:20 <HardDisk_WP> whats that?
May 10 19:09:36 <treitmayr> hmm, that's SlugOS stuff :)
May 10 19:10:01 <treitmayr> the packages are taken from openembedded
May 10 19:10:31 <treitmayr> and the mastermakefile just allows to start the build process for the whole image with one command
May 10 19:12:24 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: http://www.devbase.at/Bildschirmfoto-3.png
May 10 19:13:36 <HardDisk_WP> WTF cool
May 10 19:14:04 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, brb reboot to linux
May 10 19:20:04 <HardDisk_WP> re
May 10 19:21:41 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, i now take 2.6.18 config and compile .25 on it
May 10 19:22:03 <treitmayr> for the slug?
May 10 19:23:10 <HardDisk_WP> yeah
May 10 19:23:12 <HardDisk_WP> but it dont work
May 10 19:23:17 <HardDisk_WP> how do i change the arch?
May 10 19:23:34 <treitmayr> you need a whole cross-compile environment
May 10 19:23:46 <HardDisk_WP> argh :/
May 10 19:23:52 <HardDisk_WP> where to get one in debian format?
May 10 19:25:02 <treitmayr> hmm, even if we could copy some of the binaries - I use big-endian
May 10 19:26:22 <HardDisk_WP> what does debian use?
May 10 19:26:31 <treitmayr> I am not really an export for debian unfortunately
May 10 19:26:48 <treitmayr> probably cross-compile it...
May 10 19:30:49 <treitmayr> HardDisk_WP: Is it possible to have the kernel of sid (which should be 2.6.25) installed in parallel to your stable version?
May 10 19:31:09 <HardDisk_WP> mh
May 10 19:31:13 <HardDisk_WP> i dont think so
May 10 19:31:17 <HardDisk_WP> because kernel is inflash
May 10 19:31:56 <treitmayr> ok, just like in slugos
May 10 19:33:29 <HardDisk_WP> there is no other way
May 10 19:51:04 <mwester> kexec
May 10 20:00:19 <treitmayr> mwester: kexec looks interesting, I have to try it for my next kernel upgrade!
May 10 20:00:26 <treitmayr> thanks
May 10 20:03:42 <HardDisk_WP> I FUCKING HATE CROSSCOMPILING
May 10 20:04:02 <HardDisk_WP> i HAVE installed everything for arm from http://speedblue.org/cross_compilation/
May 10 20:04:14 <HardDisk_WP> but WHY does make still whine about missing arm-ld?!
May 10 20:05:35 <HardDisk_WP> brb
May 10 20:11:50 <lunchbox2> still around Harddisk_WP?
May 10 20:17:34 <HardDisk_WP> re
May 10 20:17:36 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, yea
May 10 20:17:56 <lunchbox2> I'm looking for some help transfering files between HDDs - everytime I try and move to a backup disk it tells me /media/dis...filename cannot be copied because you do not have permissions to read it. - any ideas? 
May 10 20:18:15 <HardDisk_WP> run as root
May 10 20:18:40 <lunchbox2> as dumb as this sounds - how
May 10 20:22:30 <HardDisk_WP> well
May 10 20:22:38 <HardDisk_WP> how do you currently transfer files?
May 10 20:22:42 <HardDisk_WP> via commandline?
May 10 20:24:04 <lunchbox2> I'm all GUI man =/
May 10 20:26:03 <docmax_> hello
May 10 20:26:10 <docmax_> i need to install ntfs-3g
May 10 20:26:18 <docmax_> i tried the backports how-to
May 10 20:26:26 <docmax_> but apt-get doesnt find the package
May 10 20:26:43 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, uh... run "mount", pastebin it
May 10 20:26:56 <HardDisk_WP> then tell me from where to where you want to copy
May 10 20:29:31 <docmax_> hello?
May 10 20:30:11 <lunchbox2> http://pastebin.com/d2bcadaea
May 10 20:31:54 <lunchbox2> dev/hdd1/Stack1 to dev/sdb1/stack1/
May 10 20:33:29 <docmax_> again, how to install ntfs-3g?
May 10 20:33:53 <lunchbox2> I wish I could help docmax_ but I have no idea
May 10 20:34:55 <lunchbox2> for what its worth - I put the drive back in the USB box and it still reads ad unformated - i put it back in the PC - I'm just going to copy the info over to the new USB drive - log back into windows and burn them to a disk - I need to make sure I have proper permissions so I can access them 
May 10 20:35:37 <HardDisk_WP> docmax_, you do NOT want to do this
May 10 20:35:41 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, hm
May 10 20:36:07 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, run ls -lah /media
May 10 20:36:32 <lunchbox2> drwxr-xr-x  7 root root 4.0K 2008-05-10 10:08 .
May 10 20:36:33 <lunchbox2> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4.0K 2008-05-10 07:40 ..
May 10 20:36:35 <lunchbox2> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 2007-10-27 16:23 cdrom -> cdrom0
May 10 20:36:36 <lunchbox2> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4.0K 2007-10-27 16:23 cdrom0
May 10 20:36:38 <lunchbox2> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4.0K 2007-10-27 16:23 cdrom1
May 10 20:36:40 <lunchbox2> drwxrwxr-x 25  502  501 4.0K 2007-11-25 23:43 disk
May 10 20:36:41 <lunchbox2> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    7 2007-10-27 16:23 floppy -> floppy0
May 10 20:36:43 <lunchbox2> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4.0K 2007-10-27 16:23 floppy0
May 10 20:36:44 <lunchbox2> drwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4.0K 2008-05-10 14:47 FreeAgent Drive
May 10 20:36:46 <lunchbox2> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  129 2008-05-10 10:08 .hal-mtab
May 10 20:36:47 <lunchbox2> -rw-------  1 root root    0 2008-05-10 10:08 .hal-mtab-lock
May 10 20:36:49 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, still around?
May 10 20:37:24 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, strange, you should have all needed...
May 10 20:37:35 <HardDisk_WP> lunchbox2, and change out your USB box
May 10 20:41:41 <lunchbox2> I plan on it but first I want to get the data off the drive and someplace I actually have access to it - once that is done I'm making back up DVD's - I'm probably going to reflash my slug and reformat the drive and see if it works then - need to transfer the files first
May 10 20:47:39 <HardDisk_WP> FUCK
May 10 20:47:44 <HardDisk_WP> i messed it up somehow
May 10 20:47:44 <docmax_> why not want to do this?
May 10 20:48:04 <HardDisk_WP> docmax_, ntfs-3g is cpu hog
May 10 20:48:15 <HardDisk_WP> any of the devs on?
May 10 20:51:01 <docmax_> harddisk.. any other solutions?
May 10 20:51:11 <HardDisk_WP> why do you want ntfs support?
May 10 20:51:24 <docmax_> i have 4x 500GB HD
May 10 20:51:29 <HardDisk_WP> anyway, ntfs-3g doesnt exist for arm
May 10 20:51:36 <HardDisk_WP> and for such big HDDs use ext3
May 10 20:51:39 <docmax_> i had windows before
May 10 20:51:54 <docmax_> nfts with compression
May 10 20:52:01 <docmax_> now i went to linux
May 10 20:52:13 <docmax_> can i convert the filesystem?
May 10 20:52:20 <HardDisk_WP> no
May 10 20:52:25 <HardDisk_WP> you need to copy the files by hand
May 10 20:52:27 <docmax_> format all?
May 10 20:52:31 <docmax_> damn
May 10 20:52:38 <HardDisk_WP> no
May 10 20:52:43 <docmax_> is ext3 fast?
May 10 20:52:46 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, ping!
May 10 20:52:52 <treitmayr> pong
May 10 20:52:53 <HardDisk_WP> all linux FS are
May 10 20:53:02 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, you run debian on your slug, right?
May 10 20:53:05 <docmax_> does it support compression?
May 10 20:53:14 <HardDisk_WP> docmax_, no, and you dont need it
May 10 20:53:15 <docmax_> i d like to have compresson
May 10 20:53:17 <treitmayr> I run SlugOS/BE
May 10 20:53:20 <HardDisk_WP> for what?
May 10 20:53:25 <HardDisk_WP> treitmayr, :(
May 10 20:53:33 <HardDisk_WP> anyone here running debian on his slug?
May 10 20:53:38 <treitmayr> I really want minimum resource usage
May 10 20:53:46 <docmax_> 2 GB files with nothing in it would take 2GB space
May 10 20:53:49 <treitmayr> HD only spins up when needed
May 10 20:53:54 <docmax_> but compressed only 10 KB
May 10 20:54:12 <HardDisk_WP> then you need manual compression; and why do you store such stuff
May 10 20:54:12 <treitmayr> sorry HardDisk_WP
May 10 20:54:13 <docmax_> yes i have debian 4.0r3
May 10 20:54:20 <HardDisk_WP> docmax_, on the slug?
May 10 20:54:23 <HardDisk_WP> good...
May 10 20:54:25 * lunchbox2 waits patiently
May 10 20:54:26 <docmax_> yes
May 10 20:54:57 <HardDisk_WP> can you please somehow cp /dev/mtd* into some archive or so and send it me?
May 10 20:55:12 <HardDisk_WP> I have fucked up my flash (kernel & initramfs)
May 10 20:55:20 <HardDisk_WP> my slug...well, i can reach it in upslug
May 10 20:55:28 <HardDisk_WP> and so i want to reflash a debian kernel
May 10 20:58:04 <docmax_> for these situations i always backup my SD card
May 10 20:58:11 <docmax_> dev/mtd?
May 10 20:59:21 <docmax_> mtd is just a link
May 10 20:59:26 <docmax_> where are the actual files?
May 10 21:00:57 <HardDisk_WP> ahf, ok
May 10 21:00:59 <HardDisk_WP> then forget it..
May 10 21:03:32 <docmax_> why forget it?
May 10 21:09:34 <HardDisk_WP> root@marco-laptop:/static/linux-kernel/nslu# upslug2 -k /tmp/vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-ixp4xx -R /tmp/initrd.img-2.6.18-6-ixp4xx -U
May 10 21:09:34 <HardDisk_WP> NSLU2     00:1d:7e:af:1b:6b Product ID: 1 Protocol ID: 0 Firmware Version: R23V63 [0x2363]
May 10 21:09:35 <HardDisk_WP> /tmp/vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-ixp4xx: file too large or too small: fatal error [std::exception]
May 10 21:09:39 <HardDisk_WP> aaaaaaargh
May 10 21:09:56 <HardDisk_WP> anyone who can help me?!
May 10 21:12:33 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, around?
May 10 21:13:22 <Nightwolf> perfect timing
May 10 21:13:30 <HardDisk_WP> lol
May 10 21:13:37 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, do you run debian on your slug?
May 10 21:13:41 <Nightwolf> yes
May 10 21:14:09 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, can you please make me an dd image of the flash partitions?
May 10 21:14:18 <HardDisk_WP> I have messed up my flash with a broken .25 kernel
May 10 21:14:34 <HardDisk_WP> so I need an image of the mtd partitions
May 10 21:14:47 <Nightwolf> ok
May 10 21:14:50 <HardDisk_WP> as upslug2 doesnt let me flash vmlinuz image :/
May 10 21:15:24 <Nightwolf> you should have made a backup ;-)
May 10 21:15:58 <HardDisk_WP> I had
May 10 21:16:10 <HardDisk_WP> but i didnt know upslug2 refuses vmlinuz kernel images :(
May 10 21:18:51 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, do you know why it refused the image?
May 10 21:20:18 <Nightwolf> no
May 10 21:20:32 <HardDisk_WP> kk
May 10 21:22:02 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, when you're done, please send the image(s) to marco@velirat.de
May 10 21:22:34 <Nightwolf> do you have a link where this dd mtd is explained? i already have done it some time ago but can't find the link again
May 10 21:23:06 <HardDisk_WP> no idea...
May 10 21:23:28 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, can you please file -s /dev/mtd* ?
May 10 21:23:39 <HardDisk_WP> then it should be visible what of them i need
May 10 21:26:51 <Nightwolf> ok i meant this link: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/FAQ
May 10 21:27:53 <HardDisk_WP> ok :)
May 10 21:28:00 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, oh wait
May 10 21:28:01 <HardDisk_WP> stop
May 10 21:28:04 <HardDisk_WP> this not good
May 10 21:28:15 <HardDisk_WP> when i flash this image, i flash the bootloader :(
May 10 21:28:16 <Nightwolf> what?
May 10 21:28:26 <treitmayr> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/RedBootSequence states that mtdblock2 contains the kernel and mtdblock3 the ramdisk
May 10 21:28:35 <Nightwolf> so you need only one of them? http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/RedBootSequence
May 10 21:29:26 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, i need two
May 10 21:29:38 <axm> hi
May 10 21:29:42 <HardDisk_WP> dd if=/dev/mtdblock2 of=/tmp/kernel
May 10 21:29:49 <HardDisk_WP> dd if=/dev/mtdblock3 of=/tmp/ramdisk
May 10 21:29:54 <axm> anybody here using transmission?
May 10 21:29:58 <HardDisk_WP> then mail me the two files in /tmp
May 10 21:30:01 <HardDisk_WP> thx :)
May 10 21:36:43 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, noch da?
May 10 21:37:01 <Nightwolf> ja sorry, bin gerade dabei
May 10 21:37:07 <HardDisk_WP> thx :)
May 10 21:40:25 <Nightwolf> hast post
May 10 21:41:29 <HardDisk_WP> thx
May 10 21:41:35 <HardDisk_WP> schaun wir mal obs klappt...
May 10 21:43:20 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, du läufst auf 2.6.18?
May 10 21:44:32 <Nightwolf> hm gute frage ;-)
May 10 21:44:57 <Nightwolf> jo stimmt
May 10 21:47:08 <HardDisk_WP> arghl...
May 10 21:47:44 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, kannst du bitte kurz ls -lah /dev|grep mtd machen?
May 10 21:48:12 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, mindestens eine der beiden images ist falsch
May 10 21:48:37 <Nightwolf> wie falsch?
May 10 21:48:49 <HardDisk_WP> kernel ist nur 128K
May 10 21:48:57 <HardDisk_WP> image ist 1,4MB, vermutlich der Kernel
May 10 21:49:22 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, mach mal bitte des kommando...ich glaube die aufteilung da gilt für upslug
May 10 21:49:43 <Nightwolf> http://nopaste.php-quake.net/28488
May 10 21:50:09 <HardDisk_WP> hm
May 10 21:51:37 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, mtdblock0 is der bootloader
May 10 21:51:55 <mwester> HardDisk_WP:  just FYI, ntfs-3g exists for ARM, and works quite well.  I think perhaps it's just not in the debian feeds.
May 10 21:52:01 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, kannst du mir bitte noch die anderen mtdblocks schicken?
May 10 21:52:05 <HardDisk_WP> mwester, ah k
May 10 21:57:49 <falz> yo. so I just discovered the nslu2, looking at something to replace a fileserver @ home thats generally only used for smb/nfs/upnp serving. does the 3rd party firmware stuff spin the drives down or have options as to how many minutes of inactivity to spin them down?
May 10 21:57:54 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, ?
May 10 21:58:02 <Nightwolf> HardDisk_WP: sekunde...
May 10 21:58:11 <HardDisk_WP> falz, you can use hdparm for example, when you run debian
May 10 21:58:49 <falz> dies that tie into ACPI stuff for power somehow, or independant?
May 10 21:58:55 <HardDisk_WP> ?
May 10 21:59:07 <falz> I don't know what hdparm's purpose is. 
May 10 21:59:12 <HardDisk_WP> i dont think the nslu has acpi
May 10 21:59:18 <HardDisk_WP> falz, hdparm controls disks
May 10 21:59:55 <falz> so it sounds like I'd have to have some combo of lsof w/ hdparm to spin things down. 
May 10 22:01:06 <HardDisk_WP> for what lsof?
May 10 22:01:12 <falz> list open files. 
May 10 22:01:20 <falz> I'm just thinking of a proper way to spin the disk down without files in use
May 10 22:01:29 <falz> I may be overthinking it since I dont even have it
May 10 22:02:08 <falz> heh I guess I could just read.. http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/SpinDownUSBHarddisks
May 10 22:04:58 <falz> thanks.
May 10 22:05:41 <HardDisk_WP> np
May 10 22:05:54 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, noch da?
May 10 22:06:36 <Nightwolf> HardDisk_WP: ja nur mal keine hektik, hab auch noch andere sachen zu tun
May 10 22:06:42 <HardDisk_WP> is klar^^
May 10 22:06:52 <HardDisk_WP> will dir keinen streß machen^^
May 10 22:30:46 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, thx
May 10 22:39:36 <HardDisk_WP> Nightwolf, weisst du ob debian ein rootfs zusätzlich zur initrd nutzt?!
May 10 22:55:20 <gouki> Has anyone had problems installing sendmail?
May 10 22:55:35 <gouki> I'm having dependencies problems.
May 10 23:16:48 <HardDisk_WP> anyone still awake?
May 11 01:36:39 <gouki> HardDisk_WP: yes
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