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May 25 05:01:56 <skream> anyone tried re-slinging withougt formatting the drive first?
May 25 05:07:14 <mwester> often enough that the unsling script won't let you.
May 25 05:08:08 <skream> yeah, i got that error
May 25 05:08:36 <skream> i just looking for a faster way to get a fresh unslung without moving all my files around to format
May 25 05:09:11 <mwester> Check the wiki for "upgrading" Unslung.
May 25 05:09:30 <mwester> Specifically, the "inplace" upgrade
May 25 05:09:37 <skream> ok
May 25 05:09:38 <skream> thx
May 25 06:55:08 <bpun> hi
May 25 06:56:10 <bpun> a few must be using that asterisk package and was wondering if a few meg blacklist can be parsed fast enough on a slug? :~
May 25 07:11:59 <bear> DrJ: man! You convinced me to switch from openwrt to slugos a while ago, which I don't regret. Slugos work so much better. Mostly it's ipkg install and things work, that was not the case with openwrt. =/ Thanks mate!
May 25 07:38:57 <DrJ> :)
May 25 11:04:10 <ro> hi all, i have some questions about my ssh and sftp configuration
May 25 11:05:10 <ro> my config allows a newly added user to login in via ssh, but not through sftp (openssh-sftp-server), while the root account can
May 25 11:05:26 <ido-> are you using openwrt?
May 25 11:05:33 <ro> ftp just says SFTP connection error
May 25 11:05:35 <ro> oh sorry
May 25 11:05:37 <ro> unslung
May 25 11:06:12 <ro> unslung 6.10
May 25 11:08:20 <ro> i'm also using vsftpd, which works fine
May 25 11:08:42 <ro> but i want secure ftp too
May 25 11:10:22 <ro> do you have any idea, or do you need more info?
May 25 11:10:36 <ido-> not really..
May 25 11:11:23 <ro> ok
May 25 11:12:27 <ro> do you think I should assign another ftp app as the sftp subsystem? (is that possible)
May 25 11:14:42 <ido-> no
May 25 11:14:48 <ido-> sftp works over ssh i think
May 25 11:15:16 <ido-> so it doesnt have to do with it
May 25 11:15:23 <ro> yeah it does, and it works great on my other linux systems
May 25 11:15:40 <ido-> you might try to change your shell
May 25 11:15:46 <ido-> or change dropbear to openssh
May 25 11:16:38 <ro> how do you mean change my shell? the shell (busybox) shouldnt matter for sftp, you can even set the shell to /dev/null
May 25 11:16:49 <ido-> install bash
May 25 11:18:55 <ro> ok bash is installed and working, but does not make sftp work
May 25 11:19:47 <ro> and dropbear is not there i think, because i installed everything with openssh-*
May 25 11:20:31 <ido-> then i really dont know
May 25 11:20:54 <ro> ok
May 25 11:20:57 <ro> thanks anyway
May 25 11:22:48 <ro> and do some of you know how to make changes to the default samba configuration persistent?
May 25 11:23:26 <ro> unslung just takes over the linksys samba configuration, if you change it in the conf files, it's reverted after reboot
May 25 11:31:01 <jonaslund> how long is it supposed to take to format a ext3 flash on a 8gig drive ?
May 25 11:31:17 <jonaslund> i think i left it for 8 hours and it still wasn't finished
May 25 11:31:42 <ro> oh it shouldv been finished already
May 25 11:32:01 <ro> it should take 15 minutes or something i geuess
May 25 11:33:01 <ro> refreshing the interface still makes it say 'formatting..'?
May 25 11:34:03 <ro> just reboot it, and try again
May 25 11:34:07 <jonaslund> hmh, refreshing ?
May 25 11:34:20 <jonaslund> the stick was blinking
May 25 11:34:30 <ro> are you using the webinterface to format?
May 25 11:34:35 <jonaslund> yep
May 25 11:34:37 <jonaslund> or no
May 25 11:34:43 <jonaslund> the debian installer
May 25 11:34:46 <ro> if you refresh that page
May 25 11:34:48 <ro> oh
May 25 11:35:02 <jonaslund> newest 4.0 from slugfirmware
May 25 11:35:12 <ro> don't know then, sorry
May 25 11:35:37 <jonaslund> hmh
May 25 11:35:46 <ro> but you installed a tiny firmware, which installs it? don't know how it works
May 25 11:35:57 <ro> but maybe it's safe to just try again
May 25 11:36:07 <jonaslund> tried 3-4 times already
May 25 11:36:11 <ro> oh
May 25 11:36:19 <ro> what kind of usb stick is it?
May 25 11:36:22 <ro> what brand
May 25 11:36:29 <jonaslund> kingston datatraveler 100 8gb
May 25 11:36:40 <ro> oh that should be fine
May 25 11:37:05 <jonaslund> it always get stuck at "33%"
May 25 11:37:14 <jonaslund> it does write the parition table
May 25 11:37:32 <jonaslund> so when i reboot i see a "unknown used partition" and the "swap" i specified last time
May 25 11:37:45 <ro> maybe format it, with your computer?
May 25 11:37:50 <jonaslund> hmh
May 25 11:38:22 <ro> but i don't know if the debian installer excepts a preformatted usb stick
May 25 11:38:26 <jonaslund> got an old mac (no usb), a ps2 with linux, 2x windows computers and a freebsd server
May 25 11:39:12 <ro> or try with another usb stick, maybe it's a bug, 8 gb is too large or somtehing (shouldn't be but ok)
May 25 11:39:18 <jonaslund> hmh
May 25 11:39:23 <jonaslund> /usr/compat/linux/sbin/mkfs.ext3
May 25 11:39:27 <jonaslund> on freebsd
May 25 11:39:39 <ro> yeah you can try
May 25 11:39:56 <jonaslund> well
May 25 11:40:01 <jonaslund> i'll take that when i get home
May 25 11:40:01 <ro> and you can still let the debian installer try to create the swap file
May 25 11:40:17 <jonaslund> ro: luckily i did a stupid purchace of a 4 gig stick (same brand tho :P) a few weeks back
May 25 11:40:22 <jonaslund> got an old corsair 4gig also tho
May 25 11:41:05 <jonaslund> i'm kinda worried i b0rked the 8gig stick if the 7.5 gig partition is too big :P
May 25 11:41:12 <jonaslund> worn out the swap already :P
May 25 11:41:17 <jonaslund> altho i could just swap positions of them
May 25 11:43:04 <jonaslund> anyhow
May 25 11:43:11 <jonaslund> thanks for the help/tips
May 25 11:43:15 <jonaslund> gotta dash
May 25 11:43:19 <jonaslund> to soccer practice
May 25 11:43:38 <ro> k bye
May 25 11:49:52 <ido-> oh dear.
May 25 11:50:01 <ido-> hrm.
May 25 11:50:11 <ro> ?
May 25 11:50:14 <ido-> my slug wont boot
May 25 11:50:15 <ido-> :/
May 25 11:50:31 <ro> drop it on the floor and try again
May 25 11:50:34 <ro> what did you change?
May 25 12:41:45 <bear> does anyone know if http://yodctcs.googlepages.com/home work with SlugOS BE or if there is another similar app that do?
May 25 12:44:38 <ido-> well, technically you could be able to run rtorrent with xmlrpc..
May 25 12:44:45 <ido-> but it doesnt work on slugOS BE
May 25 12:44:52 <ido-> only on debianslug
May 25 12:45:03 <ido-> until someone compiles it for slugOS LE
May 25 14:18:32 <goetzchr> hi @ all
May 25 14:21:04 <goetzchr> i've installed debian via unpack tar ball right now....but after ap-get dist-upgrade the ssh connection is refused ...
May 25 14:23:28 <rio> did you activate swap?
May 25 14:23:39 <goetzchr> yes
May 25 14:23:56 <goetzchr> with dist-upgrade came some updates for openssh
May 25 14:24:07 <goetzchr> the during the install the connection broke 
May 25 14:24:22 <goetzchr> and now i've no access via ssh
May 25 14:24:30 <rio> the connection should not break when updating sshd
May 25 14:24:44 <goetzchr> oh
May 25 14:25:39 <rio> you can even stop the ssh server without losing the session
May 25 14:26:13 <rio> can you check the syslog?
May 25 14:30:10 <goetzchr> hmm i switch off the power and switch on 
May 25 14:30:21 <rio> okay
May 25 14:30:27 <goetzchr> now i can connect via ssh
May 25 14:31:26 <rio> does anyone know i have to connect RX<->TX or RX<->RX when i use a usb->ttl converter with a FT232BM chip?
May 25 14:34:03 <Sinclair73de> rio, what do you want to do? connect to where? or only loopback test?
May 25 14:34:31 <rio> connect it to my notebook
May 25 14:38:42 <Sinclair73de> not enough information... connect the usb-side of the chip to your notebook, or the (ttl) side?
May 25 14:38:58 <rio> the usb side to my notebook and the ttl side to the slug
May 25 14:40:25 <Sinclair73de> ok, i have connected a FT2232 2 years ago
May 25 14:41:43 <rio> Sinclair73de: http://images.virtualvillage.com/003602-010/001.jpg
May 25 14:42:10 <rio> now do i have to connect RXD of this converter to TXD of the slug or RXD to RXD?
May 25 14:42:20 <ro> hi, any1 experienced with SFTP using openssh and/or dropbear?
May 25 14:42:39 <rio> dropbear doesnt support sftp afaik
May 25 14:42:46 <rio> openssh with sftp is just fine
May 25 14:43:14 <Sinclair73de> i dont know this converter
May 25 14:43:24 <ro> yeah i got dropbear to work with sftp (openssh-sftp-server), it just expects the executable to be at the same place
May 25 14:43:41 <ro> tand openssh-sshd works fine with sftp too
May 25 14:43:46 <ro> -t
May 25 14:43:55 <ro> with both I can use sftp with the root account
May 25 14:43:59 <Sinclair73de> is this from ftdi-chip? whats the name of this converter?
May 25 14:44:21 <rio> Sinclair73de: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360054278814&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:DE:11
May 25 14:44:32 <ro> the problem is, with a different user, it wont work
May 25 14:44:34 <rio> Sinclair73de: if you can find any helpful information :)
May 25 14:44:36 <ro> in both cases
May 25 14:45:38 <ro> that converter image, you have to hook rxd to rxd and txd to txd
May 25 14:46:07 <Sinclair73de> ok, first, is this converter working with 3,3V too?
May 25 14:46:50 <rio> i havent got it yet
May 25 14:47:06 <Sinclair73de> in the schematic on the ebay page, MCU-TX means SLUG-TX
May 25 14:47:28 <Sinclair73de> and MCU-RX -> SLUG-RX
May 25 14:48:06 <rio> so i have to connect RX to TX, okay
May 25 14:48:23 <rio> ro: dont lie to me :(
May 25 14:48:32 <Sinclair73de> but first check the excitation things
May 25 14:49:18 <Sinclair73de> if you connect 5V ttl-signals to your slug ports you can damage this
May 25 14:49:20 <rio> hmm, that schematic looks like 5V :(
May 25 14:49:20 <ro> i didnt lie, or at least not on purpose
May 25 14:50:00 <rio> did i just buy a 5V version but need 3,3V? :(
May 25 14:53:10 <Sinclair73de> possible you can connect 3,3 to VCC, im reading the datasheet...
May 25 14:54:58 <Sinclair73de> the chip itself can work on 3,3V ports, but i dont know the schematic of that board
May 25 14:55:02 <rio> Sinclair73de: did you find the sheet?
May 25 14:55:26 <Sinclair73de> i have only the datasheet of the chip, not from the board
May 25 14:55:45 <rio> yep :/
May 25 14:57:58 <Sinclair73de> german speaking?
May 25 14:59:00 <rio> right
May 25 14:59:20 <rio> richtig :P
May 25 14:59:32 <Sinclair73de> come to #nslu2-german or icq 42292810
May 25 18:25:48 <ido--> hello
May 25 19:10:55 <jonaslund> uhm
May 25 19:12:09 <ido--> hey
May 25 19:12:19 <ido--> do you happen to run debian ?
May 25 19:12:22 <jonaslund> has anyone installed debian 4 recently ?
May 25 19:12:31 <jonaslund> trying to install the crap
May 25 19:12:42 <jonaslund> the installer just keeps booting me
May 25 19:12:47 <ido--> 4 = lenny ?
May 25 19:13:27 <jonaslund> 4.0r3
May 25 19:13:28 <Reedy> 4 is etch
May 25 19:13:35 <ido--> oh.
May 25 19:13:48 <ido--> Reedy, installed lenny for the 5th time or so
May 25 19:13:56 <ido--> it won't boot after installer finishes..
May 25 19:13:57 <Reedy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Releases
May 25 19:14:08 <Reedy> lenny is "5"
May 25 19:14:10 <ido--> installed does work well and without issues..
May 25 19:14:19 <ido--> s/installed/installer
May 25 19:14:26 <Reedy> There was something about this on the debian arm mailing list isnt/wasnt there?
May 25 19:14:39 <ido--> there's the support channel for arm
May 25 19:14:45 <ido--> but noone's there
May 25 19:14:56 <jonaslund> anyone who's installed that 4.0r3 ? the installer crashes on making the ext3, i made the ext3 partition in freebsd and the installer started but threw up at "installing tzdata"
May 25 19:14:56 <jonaslund> ?
May 25 19:15:10 <Reedy> #debian-arm on irc.debian.org or whatever?
May 25 19:15:15 <ido--> yeah.
May 25 19:15:19 <Reedy> weird
May 25 19:15:20 <ido--> any idea ?
May 25 19:15:25 <Reedy> Try the mailing list
May 25 19:15:30 <ido--> that is, they're all idling
May 25 19:15:48 <Reedy> http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/
May 25 19:15:50 <ido--> more then here..
May 25 19:15:53 <Reedy> sign up and email there
May 25 19:16:04 <jonaslund> what do you guys run ?
May 25 19:16:09 <jonaslund> ido--: did you run 4.x earlier ?
May 25 19:16:19 <Reedy> I've got debian on one, and unslung on my partially broken one
May 25 19:16:53 <jonaslund> Reedy: 4.x ?
May 25 19:17:03 <Reedy> yeah
May 25 19:17:09 <Reedy> cant remember when i installed this one
May 25 19:17:46 <jonaslund> what kind of drive ?
May 25 19:18:30 <Reedy> a 4GB mini hard drive thingy
May 25 19:18:36 <Reedy> as the OS drive
May 25 19:18:45 <jonaslund> i'm trying to install on a 8gig flashdrive
May 25 19:19:02 <ido--> http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2008/05/msg00008.html
May 25 19:19:06 <jonaslund> filesystem and how is it partitioned ?
May 25 19:19:10 <ido--> probably this... thanks
May 25 19:20:11 <Reedy> it was done automatedly via the installer
May 25 19:20:31 <Reedy> ido--, think you might need to wait for a new installer building
May 25 19:22:03 <Reedy> jonaslund, http://pastebin.com/m757adfd
May 25 19:23:31 <jonaslund> 40 megs of swap ?
May 25 19:23:45 <jonaslund> or 80
May 25 19:23:51 <jonaslund> hmh
May 25 19:24:56 <Reedy> i dont use the swap on that device
May 25 19:25:03 <Reedy> i've got a 512 memory stick i've moved the swap to
May 25 19:25:44 <jonaslund> what swap did you use when installing ?
May 25 19:28:29 <Reedy> the one on the hard drive it setup
May 25 19:29:14 <jonaslund> i'll try installing again i guess
May 25 19:29:44 <jonaslund> got the partitions finished
May 25 19:30:04 <jonaslund> worst case i botched that memstick last time i tried installing
May 25 19:30:12 <jonaslund> it hung trying to create the ext3
May 25 19:30:13 <jonaslund> btw
May 25 19:30:23 <jonaslund> how long should formatting the ext3 take ?
May 25 19:37:19 <goetz_chr> hmm i don't know exactly but it is easier to make the partiton with another linux pc and then only choose the mount points....
May 25 19:38:05 <jonaslund> hmh
May 25 19:38:11 <jonaslund> it's at the same point in install that failed last time
May 25 19:38:22 <jonaslund> passed this time it seems
May 25 19:38:34 <jonaslund> goetz_chr: yeah i did the ext3 creating on freebsd
May 25 19:38:49 <jonaslund> goetz_chr: but should it take like 8 hours? :)
May 25 19:38:55 <goetz_chr> jonaslund,  no
May 25 19:39:02 <jonaslund> exactly
May 25 19:39:09 <jonaslund> so something went wrong
May 25 19:39:43 <jonaslund> and it went wrong 3 times :P
May 25 19:40:40 <goetz_chr> hmm
May 25 19:42:31 <jonaslund> 4.0r3 , kingston datatravler 100 8gb (costs ~40 usd in sweden), 7.5 gb ext3 and the rest swap
May 25 19:43:13 <jonaslund> the installer hung at "33%" when formatting the ext3 (it said 33% some 8 hours later altho the flashdrive was still flashing so there might have been some activity)
May 25 23:05:30 <NSLU2-IRC> somebody awake here for a littel help for me?:P
May 25 23:07:33 <Aadje> test
May 25 23:08:24 <ido--> sup Aadje
May 25 23:08:58 <Aadje> hello all, someone awake to help me with a little problem on my unslu2?:P
May 26 00:54:37 <jonaslund> yay
May 26 00:54:39 <jonaslund> debian installed
May 26 00:55:16 <jonaslund> 28 megs of used memory tho.. bad :P
May 26 02:13:27 <slithy> just idling?
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