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Oct 06 03:48:06 <ports> hey
Oct 06 03:50:23 <DogBoy> howdy
Oct 06 03:51:09 <ports> i just bought a nslu2.. and i plugged in an 8gig flash drive... and transfers to it across my ethernet network are horrible
Oct 06 03:51:21 <ports> it takes 8-10 minutes for a 700-800mb file
Oct 06 03:52:46 <DogBoy> listening to vivaldi
Oct 06 03:54:33 <ports> ?
Oct 06 03:54:40 <DogBoy> did you have a question?
Oct 06 03:54:54 <ports> are the transfer speeds supposed to suck that hard?
Oct 06 03:55:15 <DogBoy> how fast is it if it's plugged into your desktop
Oct 06 03:55:23 <DogBoy> the flash drive
Oct 06 03:55:26 <ports> less than a minute
Oct 06 03:55:45 <DogBoy> and your network speed?
Oct 06 03:55:59 <ports> 100mbps
Oct 06 03:57:31 <DogBoy> don't know
Oct 06 03:58:16 <ports> i can transfer pc to pc about 5mbytes/sec....  and i flashfxp to my xbox at 8mbytes/sec
Oct 06 04:01:31 <ports> the nslu2 is getting about 1mbyte/sec.... way slower than anything else
Oct 06 04:02:27 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/Performance
Oct 06 04:02:34 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/SolvePerformanceProblems
Oct 06 04:04:23 <DogBoy> someone who knows, hehe
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Oct 06 14:16:46 <Nightwolf> anyone here who already fattened a slug?
Oct 06 14:18:44 <Frigolit> i might after i've gotten better at soldering SMD chips :p
Oct 06 17:12:13 <DocMAX> hello anyone running vdr on nslu2?
Oct 06 17:27:18 <supajason> Hi
Oct 06 17:32:04 <supajason> Hi
Oct 06 17:32:11 <ASA> hi
Oct 06 17:32:56 <DocMAX> hi
Oct 06 17:33:01 <DocMAX> anyone using vdr?
Oct 06 17:33:02 <ASA> hihi
Oct 06 17:33:18 <ASA> video disc recording?
Oct 06 17:33:22 <DocMAX> yes
Oct 06 17:33:27 <ASA> on a slug?
Oct 06 17:33:31 <DocMAX> yes
Oct 06 17:33:47 <ASA> isn't it tu slow for this?
Oct 06 17:33:54 <ASA> to
Oct 06 17:33:56 <DocMAX> i thought so too
Oct 06 17:34:02 <DocMAX> but it works!!
Oct 06 17:34:14 <DocMAX> have to patch the dvb drivers
Oct 06 17:34:21 <ASA> without a TV-Card???
Oct 06 17:34:29 <ASA> ah, usb card
Oct 06 17:34:29 <DocMAX> dvb-t usb stick!!!
Oct 06 17:34:42 <DocMAX> works here
Oct 06 17:34:47 <DocMAX> but not all the time
Oct 06 17:34:49 <ASA> hm, nice
Oct 06 17:35:01 <DocMAX> sometimes the recordings have stutter!
Oct 06 17:35:26 <DocMAX> so my big question here in this channel is: HOW TO SOLVE IT?
Oct 06 17:35:40 <ASA> maybe it IS to slow
Oct 06 17:35:59 <DocMAX> maybe my firmware ist too slow
Oct 06 17:36:08 <DocMAX> i think debian is the slowest
Oct 06 17:36:17 <DocMAX> shall i try slugos?
Oct 06 17:36:18 <ASA> vdr causes a lot of data
Oct 06 17:36:23 <DocMAX> what firmware are u using?
Oct 06 17:36:28 <ASA> unslung
Oct 06 17:36:33 <ASA> 6.10 beta
Oct 06 17:36:40 <DocMAX> just for fileserver?
Oct 06 17:36:57 <ASA> yes, just for NFS
Oct 06 17:37:10 <ASA> cause samba was du slow on it
Oct 06 17:37:31 <DocMAX> ASA are u using windows?
Oct 06 17:37:53 <ASA> linux and windows (2000, XP)
Oct 06 17:38:13 <DocMAX> how do you get access on nfs in widnows?
Oct 06 17:38:22 <ASA> plz wait
Oct 06 17:39:53 <ASA> look here -> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/NFSonWindows
Oct 06 17:44:05 <DocMAX> cool
Oct 06 17:44:18 <DocMAX> and nfs is faster than samba right?
Oct 06 17:44:56 <ASA> for me it is
Oct 06 17:45:45 <ASA> i'l try samba with all tweaks but no tweak boost sambathat reaches the Tx and Rx rates of NFS
Oct 06 17:46:41 <ASA> tested with smal (100kB) middle (1MB) and large (1GB + 10GB) files
Oct 06 17:47:15 <ASA> allways the same story. NFS is 10 to 30 percent faste.
Oct 06 17:47:55 <ASA> but it's only for fileserve. no printer no DMC or other samba features
Oct 06 18:13:52 <ASA> if i want tryout debian/nslu2 on a unslunged box, do i have to flash the original firmware before?
Oct 06 18:17:47 <DrJ> no
Oct 06 18:18:10 <ASA> shure? :)
Oct 06 18:22:17 <Reedy> http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/asp-rnd.png - Funny programming related screenshot
Oct 06 18:24:11 <DrJ> stupid ASP programmers :)
Oct 06 18:24:18 <ASA> what is the standart unam for the slug webinterface?
Oct 06 18:24:58 <Reedy> DrJ, it is rather worryinh
Oct 06 18:25:18 <DrJ> its expected though
Oct 06 18:25:30 <DrJ> you got to be stupid imo to choose ASP over PHP
Oct 06 18:26:31 <DrJ> guy obviously didn't realize what the rnd function was though
Oct 06 18:27:07 <Reedy> I suspect so
Oct 06 18:27:17 <DrJ> although, if he though rnd was constant
Oct 06 18:27:21 <Reedy> But there seems to be a big debate of ASP being more "secure" than PHP
Oct 06 18:27:22 <DrJ> that his code really makes no sense
Oct 06 18:27:26 <Reedy> yup
Oct 06 18:27:31 <Reedy> and people choosing it for money related stuff
Oct 06 18:27:34 * Reedy shrugs
Oct 06 18:28:15 <Reedy> I'd use ASP if i had a windows server as im more c# familiar, but can get by in php
Oct 06 18:28:35 <DrJ> PHP is easy
Oct 06 18:28:44 <supajason> hello all
Oct 06 18:28:49 * Reedy likes intellisense
Oct 06 18:29:36 <DrJ> dreamweaver basically does the same thing as intellisense for me with PHP
Oct 06 18:29:39 <Reedy> and Visual Studio
Oct 06 18:29:42 <DrJ> I use dreamweaver for writing PHP
Oct 06 18:29:44 <Reedy> heh
Oct 06 18:29:59 <Reedy> I dont do that much php, but its usually just done in notepad++ when i do
Oct 06 18:30:40 <DrJ> I use dreamweaver cause I like it plus I like how I can manage my sites in it
Oct 06 18:30:49 <Reedy> heh
Oct 06 18:30:56 <DrJ> and it uploads when I save
Oct 06 18:32:38 <DrJ> I love PHP though
Oct 06 18:32:58 <DrJ> I use it for system tasks also ... even IRC bots and stuff
Oct 06 18:34:14 <DrJ> I'm surprised at how well PHP bots can hold connections to IRC
Oct 06 18:34:24 <DrJ> Bacon has been idle 1790hrs 26mins 11secs, signed on Thu Jul 24 00:06:26
Oct 06 18:34:32 <DrJ> that is one of my PHP bots on another network
Oct 06 18:35:41 <DrJ> that's almost 75 days of idleness thus far
Oct 06 18:35:47 <DrJ> without dropping connection
Oct 06 18:43:07 <Reedy> heh
Oct 06 18:43:08 <Reedy> nice
Oct 06 18:57:36 <whyme> hi all, needing help unbricking (i think) my slug
Oct 06 18:58:08 <whyme> it's an NSLU2.  I went through the cyrius installation instructions
Oct 06 18:58:52 <PPmarcel> You can't use upgrade mode anymore?
Oct 06 18:59:00 <whyme> and installed Debian - all went well until the reboot: the status led is orange, ethernet is green and no other leds are on.
Oct 06 18:59:23 <whyme> no response using nmap to find it on the network or anything... 
Oct 06 18:59:32 <PPmarcel> Humm
Oct 06 19:00:05 <PPmarcel> You ping 192.168.1.77?
Oct 06 19:00:07 <whyme> @PPmarcel, yea, that's 
Oct 06 19:00:14 <whyme> what I said...
Oct 06 19:00:17 <whyme> no response
Oct 06 19:00:20 <whyme> on .77
Oct 06 19:00:39 <PPmarcel> I just try to guess if you network in 192.168.1. :)
Oct 06 19:00:57 <PPmarcel> Ok, if you have a routerm can you look at dhcp logs?
Oct 06 19:01:09 <PPmarcel> Maybe the nslu2 isn't static anymore
Oct 06 19:01:09 <whyme> nothing there either.
Oct 06 19:01:17 <DogBoy> can't seem to get my slug into upgrade mode
Oct 06 19:02:05 <whyme> and network is indeed in 168.1
Oct 06 19:02:47 <PPmarcel> Don't go away, i look in docs.
Oct 06 19:03:04 <whyme> @PPmarcel, ty
Oct 06 19:04:19 <PPmarcel> Ah, try to plug you usb-disk on your computer, and check network settings, just to be sure :)
Oct 06 19:04:51 <PPmarcel> DogBoy: Is it the first time you try to get your slug into upgrade mode?
Oct 06 19:06:18 <DogBoy> no
Oct 06 19:06:38 <DogBoy> PPmarcel, I am reflashing the linksys firmware
Oct 06 19:07:09 <DogBoy> always seem to have trouble though as I recall
Oct 06 19:08:14 <PPmarcel> Hem, how can you re-flash it if you can't use upgrade mode? (:
Oct 06 19:09:23 <Reedy> PPmarcel, JTAG? :P
Oct 06 19:09:24 <DogBoy> not sure what you mean by that PPmarcel 
Oct 06 19:09:37 <Reedy> hmm
Oct 06 19:09:42 <PPmarcel> Never mind
Oct 06 19:09:43 <Reedy> wonder if you still need it tho
Oct 06 19:10:31 <PPmarcel> If you can't get into upgrade mode, i mean: How can you reflash the nslu2 with stock firmware?
Oct 06 19:10:39 <DogBoy> well exactly
Oct 06 19:10:45 <PPmarcel> Aah, by unslung's webmin i guess
Oct 06 19:10:58 <PPmarcel> What is JTAG?
Oct 06 19:11:37 <Reedy> Joint something (testing?) Action Group
Oct 06 19:11:43 <Reedy> like serial
Oct 06 19:12:31 <PPmarcel> Ah i see
Oct 06 19:12:45 <PPmarcel> There is some electronic stuffs on the wiki :p
Oct 06 19:12:50 <PPmarcel> are*
Oct 06 19:14:01 <PPmarcel> If someone want to have some good prices for a fonera, i can give him a code
Oct 06 19:14:28 <PPmarcel> It works with openWRT
Oct 06 19:16:15 <PPmarcel> whyme: You've got some answers about your problem?
Oct 06 19:17:23 <whyme> well, have mounted one of the 2 Tb drives I had on there (the formatting took >2hours!) and found the /etc/network/interfaces file
Oct 06 19:18:02 <whyme> you were right that it was set for DHCP, but the problem remains that it should have fully booted and my linksys wrt54gl should have seen it if an IP address had been assigned
Oct 06 19:18:02 <PPmarcel> Ok, so what's inside?
Oct 06 19:18:21 <PPmarcel> Ok
Oct 06 19:18:49 <whyme> so, looking at the internet, I saw that the LED state that I am seeing=Debian in single user, waiting for some form of confirmation
Oct 06 19:18:52 <whyme> :(
Oct 06 19:19:10 <PPmarcel> Ah, so debian isn't working yet?
Oct 06 19:19:32 <PPmarcel> Did you installed arm or armel version?
Oct 06 19:20:14 <whyme> I got the one recommended by cyrius
Oct 06 19:20:16 <whyme> hang on
Oct 06 19:20:22 <PPmarcel> I tryed to install armel one half hour ago, but it seems that debian can't get the right installer :(
Oct 06 19:20:41 <whyme> http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/install.html <- guide
Oct 06 19:20:52 <PPmarcel> Ok, i have it under my eyes
Oct 06 19:21:03 <whyme> http://www.slug-firmware.net/d-dls.php <- unofficial image
Oct 06 19:21:30 <PPmarcel> Yes, got it ^^
Oct 06 19:22:08 <PPmarcel> Ok, see you later.
Oct 06 19:22:13 <whyme> afaik it's the right image
Oct 06 19:22:18 <whyme> :O
Oct 06 19:22:32 <whyme> don't go, I haven't got any closer to installing :(
Oct 06 19:24:13 <PPmarcel> Only one advice: install debian again
Oct 06 19:24:41 <whyme> right, so how do I flash it now?
Oct 06 19:25:07 <PPmarcel> use the Upgrade mode
Oct 06 19:25:15 <whyme> right you are... will do...
Oct 06 19:25:40 <PPmarcel> Wait, you said your statu led was still orange?
Oct 06 19:26:01 <PPmarcel> Look at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/TroubleShooting -> The slug hangs during reboot (stuck on orange LED, no HD activity.)
Oct 06 19:26:24 <PPmarcel> Maybe debian is just checking your disks. If you use some tera, it will be long, but you can disable it
Oct 06 19:26:32 <PPmarcel> Try that before re-flashing
Oct 06 19:29:58 <whyme> i tried waiting overnight
Oct 06 19:30:08 <whyme> loool
Oct 06 19:30:13 <whyme> I just started the flash... 
Oct 06 19:30:16 <whyme> ooops
Oct 06 19:30:18 <whyme> :P
Oct 06 19:30:37 <whyme> multidesktop = not having irc and terminal on same :P
Oct 06 19:33:39 <whyme> oh well, I'm off to eat now, will be back shortly with full tummy and reinstall of the system.
Oct 06 19:40:32 <supajason> hi all
Oct 06 19:40:39 <supajason> reedy you about?
Oct 06 19:41:14 <Reedy> aye
Oct 06 19:41:54 <supajason> i installed debian unchecked all boxes, it finished about 1:30 :-(
Oct 06 19:42:35 <Reedy> ugh
Oct 06 19:43:50 * supajason slaps supajason around a bit with a large trout
Oct 06 19:45:46 <supajason> just wanted to know what i do now?
Oct 06 19:46:23 <DogBoy> <PPmarcel> DogBoy: Is it the first time you try to get your slug into upgrade mode?
Oct 06 19:46:27 <DogBoy> <DogBoy> no
Oct 06 19:46:27 <DogBoy> <DogBoy> PPmarcel, I am reflashing the linksys firmware
Oct 06 19:47:02 <DogBoy> meaning: no obviously it's not my first time as if my intention is to reflash to the original firmware I have had it in upgrade mode
Oct 06 19:47:59 <Reedy> supajason, in theory, you can more a less just follow any debian apache mysql and php tutorial
Oct 06 19:49:17 <supajason> oh ok
Oct 06 19:49:29 <DogBoy> but you have to tune it to really get it working 
Oct 06 19:49:46 <Reedy> yeah
Oct 06 19:50:04 <supajason> tune?
Oct 06 19:50:19 <DogBoy> for low memory
Oct 06 19:50:30 <Reedy> supajason, same as you would've with unslung
Oct 06 19:51:32 <supajason> oh i see
Oct 06 19:51:42 <Reedy> so nothing unexpected ;)
Oct 06 19:52:16 <DogBoy> is it really practical to do that
Oct 06 19:52:28 <DogBoy> isn't it going to be slow as heck
Oct 06 19:52:34 <Reedy> yup
Oct 06 19:52:38 <Reedy> apt-get install mysql apache2 php
Oct 06 19:52:44 <DogBoy> so why bother
Oct 06 19:52:50 * Reedy shrugs
Oct 06 19:53:17 <DogBoy> for the fun of it is one thing but usually people have something in mind
Oct 06 20:06:44 <supajason> Jason:~# apt-get install mysql apache2 php
Oct 06 20:06:44 <supajason> Reading package lists... Done
Oct 06 20:06:44 <supajason> Building dependency tree... Done
Oct 06 20:06:44 <supajason> E: Couldn't find package mysql
Oct 06 20:06:47 <supajason> :-(
Oct 06 20:08:06 <Reedy> apt-get update
Oct 06 20:08:34 <Reedy> mysql-server
Oct 06 20:11:29 <supajason> done update
Oct 06 20:12:13 <supajason> installing mysql
Oct 06 20:12:16 <supajason> :-)
Oct 06 20:12:55 <supajason> 115MB of space...
Oct 06 20:13:04 <Reedy> lol
Oct 06 20:13:09 <Reedy> doesnt suprise me
Oct 06 20:13:27 <supajason> can i setup a ftp server
Oct 06 20:13:41 <Reedy> quite easily, yeah
Oct 06 20:14:00 <PPmarcel> When i install debian, the installer miss a lot of packages, debian is in mess?
Oct 06 20:14:16 <Reedy> always been fine for me, only complaint is it isnt the quickest in the world
Oct 06 20:14:17 <supajason> huh?
Oct 06 20:14:37 <supajason> what about proftpd?
Oct 06 20:14:49 <supajason> is that ok for noobs like myself?
Oct 06 20:15:04 <Reedy> cant really advise as for ftp servers
Oct 06 20:15:16 <Reedy> IIRC, you should be able to use winscp and alike and browse basically over ssh
Oct 06 20:16:12 <supajason> that sounds cool
Oct 06 20:16:21 <supajason> so its called iirc?
Oct 06 20:16:32 <Reedy> no
Oct 06 20:16:36 <Reedy> thats if i recall correctly
Oct 06 20:16:37 <Reedy> moment
Oct 06 20:17:14 <Reedy> yeah, supajason just download winscp onto windows
Oct 06 20:17:19 <Reedy> no extra config needed on the nslu2
Oct 06 20:19:38 <Reedy> seanw! :)
Oct 06 20:20:00 <supajason> how do i get it working tho, there is no exe
Oct 06 20:20:10 <supajason> its a plugin right
Oct 06 20:20:12 <Reedy> i just downloaded one
Oct 06 20:20:13 <Reedy> no
Oct 06 20:20:23 <Reedy> http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/winscp/winscp417.exe
Oct 06 20:21:43 <supajason> private key file?
Oct 06 20:22:08 <Reedy> just ignore it
Oct 06 20:22:12 <Reedy> its for passwordless login
Oct 06 20:23:33 <supajason> OMG this is amazing
Oct 06 20:23:42 <supajason> faster than ftp
Oct 06 20:24:27 <Reedy> lol
Oct 06 20:25:15 <supajason> where is apache conf?
Oct 06 20:26:11 <Reedy> /etc/apache/httpd.conf ?
Oct 06 20:26:13 <Reedy> at a guess
Oct 06 20:26:37 <supajason> nope :-(
Oct 06 20:27:04 <Reedy> /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
Oct 06 20:27:07 <Reedy> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=debian+default+apache+config+location&meta=
Oct 06 20:27:10 <Reedy> google is useful ;)
Oct 06 20:28:37 <supajason> nope its not there
Oct 06 20:28:48 <Reedy> is it running?
Oct 06 20:29:05 <supajason> how do i find out?
Oct 06 20:29:14 <Reedy> visit its ip address in a web browser :P
Oct 06 20:29:41 <Reedy> other than that.. ps aux | grep apache
Oct 06 20:29:43 <supajason> nope nothing
Oct 06 20:29:46 <Reedy> or would it be | grep httpd
Oct 06 20:30:14 <supajason> i dont think its installed
Oct 06 20:30:23 <supajason> i will try
Oct 06 20:30:25 <supajason> apt-get install apache2
Oct 06 20:30:29 <Reedy> hahaha
Oct 06 20:30:36 <supajason> apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli php5-common php5-cgi
Oct 06 20:31:05 <Reedy> sounds about right
Oct 06 20:34:22 <supajason> (debian rocks)
Oct 06 20:36:03 <supajason> after install apache2 i get it works page
Oct 06 20:36:06 <supajason> yeaaa
Oct 06 20:36:11 <Reedy> lol
Oct 06 20:36:12 <Reedy> :P
Oct 06 20:43:23 <supajason> all installed restarting
Oct 06 20:46:53 <DocMAX> can i remotely watch cpu usage of nslu2 in windows?
Oct 06 20:47:10 <Reedy> DocMAX, what os?
Oct 06 20:47:12 <DocMAX> perhaps snmp?
Oct 06 20:47:15 <supajason> it worked :-) changing the server root and adding some php
Oct 06 20:47:19 <Reedy> But generally, over ssh, top would work
Oct 06 20:47:21 <DocMAX> nslu2 debian
Oct 06 20:47:30 <Reedy> DocMAX, literally just type
Oct 06 20:47:30 <Reedy> top
Oct 06 20:47:36 <Reedy> and you'll get like a task manager
Oct 06 20:47:45 <DocMAX> hmm i know this
Oct 06 20:47:57 <DocMAX> but i need it as graph
Oct 06 20:48:43 <DocMAX> best would be ALL processes as each of one graph
Oct 06 20:49:26 <Reedy> i suspect there'll be something setup somewhere for that
Oct 06 20:49:29 <Reedy> like usermin or alike
Oct 06 20:49:59 <DocMAX> usermin, alike? whats that?
Oct 06 20:50:25 <Reedy> alike isnt a program
Oct 06 20:52:06 <DocMAX> there is a daemon for gkrellm
Oct 06 20:52:13 <DocMAX> acts as a server
Oct 06 20:52:23 <DocMAX> and the client show the cpu usage
Oct 06 20:52:32 <DocMAX> but there is no client for windows
Oct 06 20:52:35 <supajason> be bacl later
Oct 06 20:52:41 <DocMAX> i need something like that
Oct 06 20:53:39 <Reedy> i suspect there'll be something somewhere
Oct 06 21:11:20 <DocMAX> is it difficult to increase ram in nslu2?
Oct 06 23:39:41 <ports> yo
Oct 06 23:39:54 <ports> i was in here last night because i was getting really low throughput to my NSLU2 over 100mbps ethernet
Oct 06 23:40:12 <ports> mwester, gave me 2 links to look at.. but it didnt look like they solved anything
Oct 07 01:28:59 <ports> hi
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