**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 21 02:59:57 2008 Oct 21 03:25:07 I installed ntfs-3g, but am getting an error when tryign to mount ... FATAL: Module fuse not found. Oct 21 11:09:19 Hi how many mb in ram want debian on startup ? Oct 21 19:30:28 I installed ntfs-3g, but am getting an error when tryign to mount ... FATAL: Module fuse not found. Oct 21 20:31:46 arthur9210: do you suppose that perhaps you might try to install the fuse module? Oct 21 20:32:52 * mwester notes that googling "FATAL: Module fuse not found" comes up with many hits, that might also provide clues. Oct 21 20:40:54 hi mwester Oct 21 20:47:24 Greetings Oct 21 20:48:16 mwester: i've added more information to the mailing list, and am wondering if there is still infomration that's missing that would be helpful Oct 21 20:50:03 Er, yes. Did you try Fernando's suggestion? Also, I don't see any details on the contents of the .conf files in your conf directory, or the actual .bb file that you are trying to build. Without that, we're just guessing at what might be wrong. Oct 21 20:50:33 mwester: I replied to Fernado's comment, I'm using bash, I think Oct 21 20:50:56 mwester: I wasn't aware you wanted the details on the conf files, although I do remember you saying that could be a cause Oct 21 20:51:21 mwester: I didn't post the bb file, because I posted what bb file I'm compiling from the repo, didn't think it was necessary Oct 21 20:52:37 mwester: and I didn't put it in the mailing list, but I believe every ipkg that I've created or 'make slugosbe-image' creates has this error Oct 21 20:53:48 mwester: and i stated in the post where I mention i'm using libogg_1.1.3.bb that it is untouched and came with the cross-dev env Oct 21 20:53:52 I'm having a hard time figuring out where you are at then. We're failing to communicate here. Oct 21 20:54:57 mwester: I'm sorry, I feel that I've tried to address your questions, and perhaps you could re-read my post if you can, I think your questions, were mostly answered, ie,I answered Fernado's suggestion, I gave which bb file I was using and where it came from Oct 21 20:55:02 Are you saying that you have started from a completely blank empty nothingness, done a total rebuild of SlugOS from nothing (3+ hours of build), gotten an image, and that every ipk file created has this problem? Oct 21 20:55:47 mwester: I believe your question is answered in my post: I re-did my cross-compile environment and performed: make setup-host-debian as root (is this really necessary if all dependencies are already installed?) instead of make setup as a regular user and came up with the same result Oct 21 20:56:08 No, you've not answered the question. Oct 21 20:56:23 what exactly does "re-did" mean? Oct 21 20:56:26 mwester: I've started from scratch Oct 21 20:56:29 Ok Oct 21 20:57:18 Then you did "make setup-host-debian" which needs to run as root if it actually has to install any missing packages on your host. Oct 21 20:57:19 Is that the step that fails? Oct 21 20:57:37 no, that's fine Oct 21 20:57:40 Ok Oct 21 20:57:46 So now you have all the dependencies. Oct 21 20:57:53 You are now a regular user Oct 21 20:57:59 You type what next? Oct 21 20:58:23 make slugosbe-image Oct 21 20:58:26 Ok Oct 21 20:58:45 And did that run to completion, and are the ipks created by that process ok? Oct 21 20:59:09 Yes it runs to completion Oct 21 20:59:39 So you have a "testlab" directory in the deploy/blah/blah directories, then? Oct 21 20:59:55 can you provide a package name that make slugosbe-image makes that is safe to install on my SlugOS 4.8 beta NSLU2? Oct 21 21:00:58 Pick one -- cpio or find should work Oct 21 21:01:09 root@SLUG:~/newipkgs$ ipkg install busybox_1.11.3-r0_armv5teb.ipk Oct 21 21:01:09 An error ocurred, return value: -22. Oct 21 21:01:09 Collected errors: Oct 21 21:01:09 Package (null) has no Architecture defined. Oct 21 21:01:44 Excellent. Oct 21 21:02:12 why excellent? Oct 21 21:02:32 So now you know that something in your environment is creating damaged packages. Or that your 4.8 slug cannot read good packages. Oct 21 21:03:31 So now download the busybox ipk from the 4.8 feeds (use ipkg search engine to find it). Oct 21 21:03:36 Then for both ipkgs, Oct 21 21:03:51 mwester: It's the latter, my old good ipkgs don't work either Oct 21 21:03:52 use the "ar" utility to extract the contents. Oct 21 21:04:15 Hmm. ok. Oct 21 21:04:17 I didn't expect that. Oct 21 21:05:17 Can you check the contents of the /etc/ipk directory? Oct 21 21:05:41 The problem is finding something good to compare it with, I expect. Oct 21 21:06:26 It should not be dissimilar to the /etc/opkg directory in the "tmp/rootfs" directory in your build area. Oct 21 21:06:43 But they may not match perfectly, as 5.0 has switched to opkg from ipkg Oct 21 21:07:06 mwester: I downloaded busybox_1.2.1-r15_armv5teb.ipk and got the same error, I probably did something and don't remember it, but I don't know, and if you're at work, thank you for helping me Oct 21 21:07:41 I'm at work but I don't want to do what I'm supposed to do :D Oct 21 21:07:48 haha Oct 21 21:08:02 at least your getting paid for something that interests you atm ;P Oct 21 21:08:23 I'd suggest that you re-install ipkg but since ipkg isn't working that's not a useful suggestion, I'm afraid :( Oct 21 21:11:05 Have 3 files in both of those dirs: arch.conf, cross-feed.conf native-feed.conf Oct 21 21:11:11 arch.conf: is identical Oct 21 21:11:15 cross-feed.conf on NSLU2 has 1 extra line: src/gz cross http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugosbe/cross/4.8-beta Oct 21 21:11:22 native-feed.conf on NSLU2 has src/gz native http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugosbe/native/4.8-beta Oct 21 21:11:22 rather than src/gz native http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugosbe/native/unstable Oct 21 21:12:12 opps, I was looking in slugos/tmp/rootfs/etc on the build cross-env not opkg Oct 21 21:13:04 although the differences when compared to /etc/opkg on the cross-bbuild env are the same Oct 21 21:14:25 reinstalling SlugOS isn't an issue for me, but I wish I knew what happened to cause this... Oct 21 21:14:28 Ok, so it seems that the config files are sane. If that's the case, I don't have any good idea where ipkg would get information that would make it complain in that fashion. Oct 21 21:15:07 Yeah, I wish some clue were available as well, in case someone else runs into this problem -- AFAIK this is never been seen before. Oct 21 21:15:14 is /var/volatile supposed to be at 100% in use? Oct 21 21:15:20 Er, no. Oct 21 21:15:29 is it a ramdisk? Oct 21 21:15:35 (it's supposed to be) Oct 21 21:15:41 df -h returns : tmpfs 14.8M 14.8M 0 100% /var/volatile Oct 21 21:16:30 I was just wondering if i was out of space or something Oct 21 21:17:12 Hmmm... yeah, that's in memory, and it's out of space. Oct 21 21:17:26 mwester: this is my df -h listing, care to look at it? http://pastebin.ca/1233202 Oct 21 21:17:28 I wonder if it could be that simple? But that's a strange error message for out of space. Oct 21 21:18:16 mwester: uptime returns: 16:17:52 up 36 days, 11 min, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Oct 21 21:18:22 Yep. It's full and it's in memory. So not only do you have very little space, you also have no ram available! Oct 21 21:18:55 mwester: how can that be? my rsync cronjob runs fine every night? Oct 21 21:19:49 Mine has been up 45 days -- has 20 Kbytes of /var/volatile used, with 14.5Mbytes available. Oct 21 21:20:00 Something has been filling up your /var/volatiles. Oct 21 21:20:34 So, basically the normal stuff in /var is symlinked to /var/volatiles, depending on what you've configured to survive a reboot. Oct 21 21:20:46 mwester: I can also tell you I have 2 extra swap partitions on /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2 that I omitted from that df -h listing Oct 21 21:20:50 and they are on Oct 21 21:20:55 THe easiest way to sort it out is to just cd over there and use the du command. Oct 21 21:20:58 I just turned them off to see if they were already off Oct 21 21:21:10 I don't think swap counts for tmpfs Oct 21 21:21:21 ok , cool Oct 21 21:21:26 tmpfs is limited to 50% of your available RAM. Oct 21 21:21:28 mwester: thanks for helping me, so what do i do? Oct 21 21:21:47 Well, I'm curious to see what's in /var/volatiles that's filled it up. Oct 21 21:21:56 cd /var/volatiles; du -sh * Oct 21 21:22:15 I think it's my log from my rsync jobs Oct 21 21:22:25 14.5M log Oct 21 21:22:40 nope Oct 21 21:22:53 My log is 4KBytes Oct 21 21:23:08 heh - I have nothing but a wtmp file in there. Oct 21 21:23:09 14.5M log.smbd Oct 21 21:23:13 OUch! Oct 21 21:23:51 shutdown smbd, and copy it somewhere for later, then delete it and restart smbd. Oct 21 21:24:00 Then see if ipkg behaves. Oct 21 21:24:06 ok, one minute please Oct 21 21:24:23 If so, we know that ipkg has the strangest error message when /var/ is out of space. Oct 21 21:25:03 mwester: do a /etc/init.d/samba stop? Oct 21 21:25:12 Yep Oct 21 21:28:11 mwester: I think it's ok, see http://pastebin.ca/1233209 Oct 21 21:28:56 Heh! Oct 21 21:29:00 How about that. Oct 21 21:29:23 I wonder if the new opkg has that horribly misleading error fixed. Oct 21 21:30:11 I'll make a note to duplicate that scenario and see how it goes wrong -- I'm really surprised that nobody else seems to have run into this before. Oct 21 21:30:56 mwester: I'm more worried about why my smbd log went crazy Oct 21 21:31:43 :) well, that's a good question too. Oct 21 21:32:00 BTW, are you turned up to a disk or a memory stick? Oct 21 21:33:15 when I install SlugOS, I run turnup init; turnup memstick -i /dev/sdc1 -t ext3 Oct 21 21:34:33 mwester: these are the errors that are repeated tons of times in the log file: http://pastebin.ca/1233217 Oct 21 21:35:13 mwester: my log.smbd is already starting to grow crazy with those errors Oct 21 21:35:27 Ok. Just FYI, one of the differences is that when you turnup to memstick instead of disk, part of the stuff in /var remains in the tmps (in-memory) instead of the storage device -- this is so that it reduces wear on the flash memory in the mem stick. Oct 21 21:36:03 :) Oct 21 21:36:07 That should be easy to fix Oct 21 21:36:21 mwester: how? Oct 21 21:37:25 Looks like a bad build-in value for the log file location, or perhaps the bad location is in the config file. Either way, IIRC there is a config file entry that can be used to specify the log file location, and you can use that to tell it to put the log file in /var/log/log.smbd. Oct 21 21:37:42 Of course, you can also just create /usr/local/samba/var/ Oct 21 21:38:21 mwester: since I'm basic, I thought you meant the latter suggestion, but I'm assuming, it's better to put it in /var/log? Oct 21 21:38:41 I'd put it in /var/log personally. Oct 21 21:39:02 mwester: I never touched the config to where it's supposed to go... I wonder why no one else is receiving this error Oct 21 21:39:36 mwester: but I did use SWAT Oct 21 21:39:37 The docs for samba are pretty good, just google and it should get you to the site with the online docs. The file is pretty straightforward. Oct 21 21:39:42 Ah. Oct 21 21:39:45 mwester: perhaps SWAT changes it Oct 21 21:39:47 Possible, I suposed. Oct 21 21:40:02 SWAT basically just writes config files. Oct 21 21:40:38 Fire up your web browser and see if you can find a log file entry, perhaps in an "advanced" tab or some other semi-hidden place. Oct 21 21:42:33 so what's weird is that SWAT has an entry, max log size in kb, it's set at 50 Oct 21 21:42:40 found the location and changing it Oct 21 21:43:32 I wonder that maybe since it couldn't open the real log file that it also failed to apply the limit to the "emergency" log file that it created? Oct 21 21:46:34 mwester: I changed it and deleted the log and restarted smbd, seems not to be spitting out those errors, CHEERS! Oct 21 21:48:36 mwester: wrote to the mailing list explaining the causes Oct 21 21:48:46 both the immediate and root causes Oct 21 21:50:22 mwester: when i start creating/modifing bb files again, when they are ready for testing, what do i do? Oct 21 21:53:15 :) Oct 21 21:54:05 Make sure you are using the latest OE repository (git-based) and that it's up-to-date, and put the bb recipes in the OE bug database. Then just bug people on the ML to review and add them. Oct 21 21:54:31 Feel free to send the bb recipes to the NSLU2-Linux ml before you add them to the bugtracker as well. Oct 21 21:55:40 Please also review the ones you send in originally, there was a "bugs weekend" a while ago aimed at getting recipes added and the minor bugs fixed, if yours were overlooked lets find out what the objections were and try again. Oct 21 22:14:43 mwester: how do I update my OE repository via git? if you say look it up, I can do that... Oct 21 22:15:45 rwhitby sent out instructions to the mailing list on how to convert from the monontone repo to the new git repo Oct 21 22:16:52 mwester: but since i blew away my cross-dev env and redit it from a blank slate, I think, i no longer have mnt traces in it, but i don't know how to update to the OE repo every now and then Oct 21 22:17:26 make update Oct 21 22:17:30 k Oct 21 22:17:33 thanks Oct 21 22:21:51 I installed ntfs-3g and the fuse module, but I get an error when I try to mount ... FATAL: Module fuse not found. Oct 21 22:23:43 What do the sites that google finds recommend that you do? Oct 21 22:24:14 ask for help on irc Oct 21 22:25:21 lol Oct 21 22:25:27 ty Oct 21 22:26:11 cuse the web talks about linux in general, not for the nslu2 Oct 21 22:26:21 same thing with SlugOS Oct 21 22:26:26 SlugOS == linux Oct 21 22:26:42 all 100%? Oct 21 22:27:40 what do you run on your desktop arthur9210 Oct 21 22:27:50 windows xp Oct 21 22:28:04 where did you get the idea to mess with a nslu2 Oct 21 22:28:26 :) Oct 21 22:28:33 I needed a print server Oct 21 22:28:38 why Oct 21 22:28:40 but that works Oct 21 22:29:02 cus I dont want to leave my desktop on Oct 21 22:29:12 did you get it to work Oct 21 22:29:15 yes Oct 21 22:29:40 what are you trying to do now Oct 21 22:30:25 mount a ntfs disk Oct 21 22:30:37 I got that from your question Oct 21 22:30:41 what's your goal Oct 21 22:31:13 have all my music and movies accesable from anywhere Oct 21 22:31:34 I got lighttp to work as well Oct 21 22:31:50 with lots of help from DrJ Oct 21 22:31:52 why would you want to use ntfs for that Oct 21 22:32:03 I dont know Oct 21 22:32:17 Thats what I have on all my pc's Oct 21 22:33:02 do you use external ntfs hard drives? Oct 21 22:33:26 No, Oct 21 22:33:35 all dives are internal Oct 21 22:33:51 i see no point trying to get ntfs to work then Oct 21 22:33:51 at least, at hte moment Oct 21 22:33:52 but I have 2 usb drives Oct 21 22:33:56 * DogBoy scratches his head Oct 21 22:34:17 Its what I grew up with Oct 21 22:34:29 you cant be very old then :P Oct 21 22:34:33 comon, whats wrong with that? Oct 21 22:34:41 wrong with what Oct 21 22:34:58 Age dosent matter, unless your a chesse Oct 21 22:35:02 :) Oct 21 22:35:16 * mwester feels like a cheese some days. Oct 21 22:35:19 I wasnt saying that Oct 21 22:35:52 mwester, any particular type? Oct 21 22:36:01 I was more like thinking that you were asking for help solving a problem in a way that not too many people in here would approach in that way Oct 21 22:36:23 Gouda Oct 21 22:36:30 How should i have? Oct 21 22:36:35 that's why nobody is jumping to help you get ntfs working with nslu2 Oct 21 22:36:42 you could do it probably but why Oct 21 22:37:06 if you dont need it...# Oct 21 22:39:09 fine what ever, it works as fat32. Brb I need to check up on fat32 Oct 21 22:39:26 lol Oct 21 22:39:43 hehe Oct 21 22:39:51 4GB file size limit IIRC Oct 21 22:40:07 ok 4gb, Oct 21 22:40:09 http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm Oct 21 22:40:17 It certainly doesn't make the windows box talk to the NSLU2 any better; instead of translating from Windows to the native format once, instead it translates it back to the Windows NTFS format again -- it's rather like those instruction manuals that come with cheap electronics anymore -- the ones that you have to read twice or three times to figure out what they meant. Oct 21 22:40:19 Max Volume Size? Oct 21 22:40:32 loads Oct 21 22:40:38 just 32GB during an XP install Oct 21 22:40:54 and linux? Oct 21 22:41:11 i suspect it wont care too much Oct 21 22:41:29 linux is very caring Oct 21 22:41:44 i mean, it wont be like "OMG YOU CANT USE OVER 32GB!!!" Oct 21 22:41:54 not like my ex wife Oct 21 22:41:54 look up at how it hugs the slug Oct 21 22:42:12 it cares Oct 21 22:42:36 linux is very caring? Hmm..... :D Oct 21 22:42:52 :-) Oct 21 22:43:10 Maybe Tux should have been a teddy bear, huh? ;) Oct 21 22:43:24 hah Oct 21 22:43:24 "Linux - we LOOOVE your data!" Oct 21 22:43:41 Ok, back to serious stuff now... :) Oct 21 22:43:56 mwester, like the internets? Oct 21 22:43:58 What about Recoverability? Oct 21 22:44:09 the site says No Oct 21 22:44:16 as in? accidentally deleted files? Oct 21 22:44:19 or corruption? Oct 21 22:44:29 I dont know Oct 21 22:44:38 http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm Oct 21 22:45:08 I actually recovered a dead drive by shaking it, Oct 21 22:45:17 that isnt FAT32 specific :P Oct 21 22:45:45 ? Oct 21 22:45:53 shaking drive to repair it Oct 21 22:46:06 IT WORKS! Oct 21 22:46:10 windows can read ext3 and you can use ubuntu live cd's to read ext3 and copy accross data Oct 21 22:46:39 Ok Oct 21 22:46:47 not by default, obv Oct 21 22:46:51 but with free software Oct 21 22:47:07 "free" :D Oct 21 22:47:17 ha ha Oct 21 22:47:30 te he Oct 21 22:47:53 free as in beer? or as in "no cost"? Oct 21 22:48:11 Operting system Oct 21 22:48:15 awe yeah Oct 21 22:48:31 Did you know that some investments are better then others? Oct 21 22:49:12 Like if you bought $1000 of AIG or lehamn bros your return today would be like $6 Oct 21 22:49:36 but can aluminium.... Oct 21 22:49:39 But if you bought $1000 of beer the return on the cans would be more then $200 Oct 21 22:49:42 lol Oct 21 22:49:48 lol Oct 21 22:49:55 high five! Oct 21 22:50:17 High Five! Oct 21 22:50:28 lol get out man! Oct 21 22:50:34 :( Oct 21 22:50:35 So.... everyone would not only be wealthier, but they'd also be drunker if they had bought beer instead of investments... Oct 21 22:50:47 yes Oct 21 22:50:51 And at least you would've gotten something out of it Oct 21 22:50:52 * mwester runs off to cash in his 401k :D Oct 21 22:50:54 rather than upset Oct 21 22:51:08 * mwester is upset Oct 21 22:51:17 * mwester has nothing left in his 401k Oct 21 22:51:19 401k, pension? Oct 21 22:51:23 XD Oct 21 22:51:25 Sigh. Oct 21 22:51:28 well you got one anyway Oct 21 22:51:57 Yeah, it's a lot smaller today than it was a few months ago. But then I never figured I'd be able to retire at 65 anyway. Oct 21 22:52:12 * mwester imagines an 80-year old Linux coder. Oct 21 22:52:20 heh Oct 21 22:52:26 mwester, wont you be like classed as god by then? Oct 21 22:52:43 I'd *like* to be, but.... Oct 21 22:52:44 Retirement is getting later... It'll get to a point where you'll just work till you die :( Oct 21 22:52:46 reality. Oct 21 22:52:49 heh Oct 21 22:52:58 reality sucks Oct 21 22:53:29 Yeah, the golden age of high-tech is over. Now we'll all be no different from any other industry. Oct 21 22:53:30 people are working till an older age, and it's not because they want to... Oct 21 22:53:32 "Hey, Kids, i was around when linux was released" Oct 21 22:53:38 One quick qestion, yes or no, If the hd has smart can linux read it? Oct 21 22:53:47 Yes. Oct 21 22:53:57 yay Oct 21 22:54:03 But most USB enclosures do not pass the SMART data through. Oct 21 22:54:11 :( Oct 21 22:54:13 aw Oct 21 22:54:16 mwester: that's what i thought, and i had to re-read his question... Oct 21 22:54:19 So you can only read it if it is directly ont eh disk controller usually. Oct 21 22:54:52 I have a usb to ide, but thats like an enclosuer Oct 21 22:55:00 right? Oct 21 22:55:09 pretty much Oct 21 22:55:12 without the fancy case Oct 21 22:55:44 Ok, thanks for your help guys, I got to go do homework XD Oct 21 22:55:44 jees, look at the time Oct 21 22:56:21 and I have not begun my HW! Oct 21 22:56:30 anything interesting Oct 21 22:57:57 ugh Oct 21 22:58:31 History, math, phisics, something else Oct 21 22:58:49 heh Oct 21 22:58:51 math and phisics I do at school Oct 21 22:59:11 math hw during phisics, and phisics during math Oct 21 22:59:43 then my history theacher gives so much homework and never checks it Oct 21 23:00:19 sounds about right Oct 21 23:00:22 Im looking forward to a high grade this semester Oct 21 23:00:34 about a 95, if not more Oct 21 23:00:39 :P Oct 21 23:01:20 heh4 Oct 21 23:01:29 Is it ok to have a yearly average of 97.6 and hate school? Oct 21 23:01:42 That would be about right. Oct 21 23:01:44 Cus I hate school so much! Oct 21 23:01:46 just because your good at something, doesnt mean you should like it Oct 21 23:01:51 Cool Oct 21 23:02:09 just means you can annoy those that do like it and arent good at it :P Oct 21 23:02:16 LOL Oct 21 23:02:50 well its true :P Oct 21 23:02:50 I think I will pawn my history teacher tomorow Oct 21 23:03:02 you will what Oct 21 23:03:19 like at a pawn shop or what Oct 21 23:03:33 own Oct 21 23:03:34 hahaa Oct 21 23:03:55 he says that the great depression started in 1919 Oct 21 23:04:02 use of such lingo is not mutually exclusive with a higher gpa? Oct 21 23:04:50 wah? Oct 21 23:05:00 I dont get it? Oct 21 23:06:16 fired Oct 21 23:06:28 * mwester agrees with DogBoy, and goes further -- any use of "l33t" or "hax0r" is an automatic failing grade. Oct 21 23:06:40 Whatever, But the depression began in 1929 Oct 21 23:06:51 * Reedy notes there have been many depressions Oct 21 23:06:52 He says the textbook is wrong Oct 21 23:06:59 and things are only great till the next great thing Oct 21 23:07:01 great Oct 21 23:07:49 * Reedy builds a svn snapshot Oct 21 23:07:49 hmm Oct 21 23:07:56 but a depression is a perdiod of time when the unemployment is above a % Oct 21 23:08:14 and it was low in the 1920's Oct 21 23:08:22 until 1929 Oct 21 23:08:40 fired Oct 21 23:08:46 depends where you are world too Oct 21 23:08:54 USA! Oct 21 23:09:01 NY Oct 21 23:09:16 Why? Oct 21 23:09:32 i wasnt actually asking specifically Oct 21 23:09:45 Do you want my SS also? Oct 21 23:09:54 lol Oct 21 23:10:12 how many slugs do you have mwester Oct 21 23:11:54 * mwester counts... Oct 21 23:11:59 hehe Oct 21 23:12:14 sometimes I pine for a second one Oct 21 23:12:27 but then I look at all these cobalt qubes I have Oct 21 23:12:32 3 Unslung, 2 SlugOS, and then there is a pair of DSM-G600s that run SlugOS. Oct 21 23:13:39 wild Oct 21 23:13:49 it's like an arsenal Oct 21 23:15:30 It's worse. Oct 21 23:15:34 It's an addiction. Oct 21 23:15:49 hahah Oct 21 23:16:05 I also have two Openmoko GTA01's an Openmoko GTA02, and two Treo 650s that run Linux. Oct 21 23:16:13 woah Oct 21 23:16:14 snazzy Oct 21 23:16:37 who has a D-Link DSM-G600? Oct 21 23:16:46 two here. Oct 21 23:16:52 is throughput better? Oct 21 23:17:07 Gotta be rev A hardware -- much faster (double the RAM) Oct 21 23:17:29 mwester: yes, I know, I've been scouring eBay for rev A hardware forever... no such luck Oct 21 23:17:29 The gigabit NIC is just marketing fluff; it can't move data any faster thant he NSLU2 really. Oct 21 23:17:44 The internal disk is nice though. Oct 21 23:21:18 mwester: you mean the RAM is faster? but the CPU is limiting IO throughput even using the internal drive? increased IO throughput is what I'm looking for Oct 21 23:24:06 faster i/o from all of those things. The cpu is the same as the de-underclocked NSLU2, but more ram means more buffer space, and there's less CPU work required to read data from the IDE directly as opposed to the USB. Oct 21 23:24:11 oh, I see on the wiki, increased ram, I guess increases performance, due perhaps to swapping? Oct 21 23:24:38 mainly buffers -- when they start to swap, its pretty much game-over for any linux system anymore. Oct 21 23:25:14 mwester: did you purchase your DSMs retail when they were available? or got them after the hw was switched to rev B? Oct 21 23:26:00 I got the first one retail, picked it out of a stack of rev B's on a shelf. THe second one I found on eBay. Oct 21 23:26:22 what's the problem with reverend b Oct 21 23:27:54 DogBoy: the wiki on the DSM says it has a different CPU and I guess SlugOS only runs on an ARM processor, I don't know Oct 21 23:28:43 * scant has eBay saved searches e-mailing him when DSMs are available on eBay Oct 21 23:28:55 The rev b is a different processor, and only has 32MB of ram. Oct 21 23:29:15 There's another group that has hacked that one too. Oct 21 23:29:33 I'll pick up a rev b if I ever see one cheap enough. Oct 21 23:30:19 mwester: isn't Optware only supported on rev b? or do you know if OE also on rev b? Oct 21 23:31:20 I don't think the rev b has any distro in OE; not sure if the group doing that does an OS replacement or just an optware-like solution -- it's been a long time since I checked that out. Oct 21 23:31:48 yea Oct 21 23:57:26 hai everyone :3 Oct 21 23:59:07 anyone out there? Oct 21 23:59:34 doesn't your irc client show you that there are a bunch of people here Oct 21 23:59:54 no Oct 22 00:00:09 get a different one? Oct 22 00:00:09 :-) Oct 22 00:00:12 lol Oct 22 00:00:27 my nslu2 is in the post ;D Oct 22 00:06:10 * chrisb is enjoying his nslu2 for backups with rsync, dns and dhcp with dnsmasq, ntp Oct 22 00:06:42 * DogBoy just likes looking at his Oct 22 00:07:04 sometimes I strap it on my back and pretend I'm a shark Oct 22 00:08:33 lolwtf Oct 22 00:09:13 i'm hoping to use mine as a DNS server, caching proxy, rapidshare downloader and backer-upper Oct 22 00:11:07 mmmm Oct 22 00:11:22 go for the shark look instead Oct 22 00:11:41 chicks dig it Oct 22 00:14:09 what firware you got on your slug Oct 22 00:14:13 firmware* Oct 22 00:15:33 I got debian on there Oct 22 00:15:39 that's how I roll Oct 22 00:18:06 have you tried any other firmware? Oct 22 00:18:22 debian sounds like the most powerful Oct 22 00:18:39 does it really take 2 hours to install though Oct 22 00:20:45 not really Oct 22 00:20:51 depends how you install it Oct 22 00:21:02 did you install the modded one that has the built in ethernet support Oct 22 00:21:14 ya Oct 22 00:21:27 wat you got running? Oct 22 00:21:35 fnord Oct 22 00:21:49 ? Oct 22 00:21:53 ? Oct 22 00:21:57 fnord? Oct 22 00:22:05 fnord! Oct 22 00:22:11 what is it Oct 22 00:22:17 google will tell you Oct 22 00:22:44