**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 25 02:59:57 2008 Oct 25 05:49:59 Ok, I have a question I can't seem to find much organized info on. I have had a slug for awhile now, and I love it. However, earlier this week, I had one of my USB disks's enclosure fail. I also inflicted some unintended damage to my other enclosure. The biggest bummer of the slug is all the seperate cables/power/fan for everything. So I was looking for a 2 bay USB enclosure that has two USB separate USB connections in it that Oct 25 06:03:38 Sigh, all i see is jbod enclosures Oct 25 06:05:18 Maybe i'm doing it wrong, but the worst thing about my slug is how it looks, so freakin disorganized. Oct 25 08:07:28 im running slugos and i was wondering if samba is the best tool to share to linux boxes Oct 25 08:07:40 as opposed to nfs Oct 25 08:35:26 is ipkg broken? Oct 25 09:37:25 mwester yeah! :D Oct 25 10:41:14 scopecreep: if you're sharing between linux boxes only, I'd go with NFS. Oct 25 11:11:13 agreed, NFS would be better than Samba Oct 25 13:10:07 hy Oct 25 13:10:49 can anyone help on bootproblems after debian update to etch Oct 25 13:11:30 everything read into the howtos wasn't helpful Oct 25 13:16:25 my slug gets stuck during boot Oct 25 13:16:44 the hdd isn't working Oct 25 13:17:30 can it be, that there is something missing after update? Oct 25 13:17:47 wenn i flash a new kernel with upslug2 it works once Oct 25 13:18:00 after reboot it isn't working anymore!!?! Oct 25 13:18:43 any ideas are appreciated!!! Oct 25 13:20:53 nickserv Oct 25 13:23:06 Hi! Oct 25 13:23:23 have you looked at the boot logs? Oct 25 13:23:26 can anyone help on bootproblems after debian update to etch, everything read into the howtos wasn't helpful Oct 25 13:23:39 my slug gets stuck during boot, the hdd isn't working Oct 25 13:23:45 can it be, that there is something missing after update? Oct 25 13:23:56 moutn the HDD on another computer to see Oct 25 13:24:01 wenn i flash a new kernel with upslug2 it works once, after reboot it isn't working anymore!!?! Oct 25 13:24:01 mount* Oct 25 13:24:05 any ideas are appreciated!!! Oct 25 13:24:12 ok I get the idea Oct 25 13:24:38 it does not get to the stage that there is something logged Oct 25 13:25:17 sorry for "double-posting" ... didn't know if it was posted already! Oct 25 13:25:21 not even dmesg log? Oct 25 13:25:28 dmesg starts logging quite early Oct 25 13:25:53 give me some minutes and i will take a look ... Oct 25 13:26:58 /var/log/messages is probably what you want Oct 25 13:27:20 you updated *to* etch? Oct 25 13:27:28 I upgraded -from- etch yesterday Oct 25 13:29:13 ehm i'm not so familiar with the Debian "coding" of the distro ... Oct 25 13:29:24 ok, just wondering. np Oct 25 13:29:35 i used the last installer for stable version Oct 25 13:29:41 I guess you went from etch to lenny Oct 25 13:29:51 no Oct 25 13:29:54 not to lenny Oct 25 13:30:00 lenny is testing ... Oct 25 13:30:03 or? Oct 25 13:30:08 am i wrong? Oct 25 13:30:10 lenny is testing Oct 25 13:30:22 lenny will be released very soon Oct 25 13:30:25 as stable Oct 25 13:31:03 /etc/debian_version says what version you are running Oct 25 13:32:39 i used Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r3 Oct 25 13:33:09 4.0 Oct 25 13:33:20 dmesg is empty! Oct 25 13:33:38 well not really empty, but it is "old" Oct 25 13:33:49 from the last startup after flashing! Oct 25 13:34:23 so I guess that shows a successful boot Oct 25 13:34:24 :| Oct 25 13:34:48 im having trouble running ipkg on slugos/be, any ideas? i can ping the net from the slug Oct 25 13:34:59 I expect there are people here who can advise you better than me, luke76 Oct 25 13:35:46 yes, but this only works once! :-7 Oct 25 13:35:52 I guess this is why the serial output is useful Oct 25 13:36:11 did you instal lenny? Oct 25 13:36:17 yes Oct 25 13:36:20 well, Oct 25 13:36:26 does it went well Oct 25 13:36:39 I installed etch like normal. I used it for a week then I upgraded to lenny Oct 25 13:36:42 with no problems Oct 25 13:36:49 apt-get dist-upgrade Oct 25 13:36:49 mmmh Oct 25 13:39:15 I must go afk. good luck Oct 25 13:39:25 and stick around. someone will have more advice for you Oct 25 13:39:55 thx so far! Oct 25 13:47:27 I was sure to back up everything before the upgrade ;) Oct 25 13:47:43 cat /dev/mtdblock* > flash_backup.bin Oct 25 13:48:08 and dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/external-disk/sda.bak Oct 25 13:50:52 where does the slug store my dns settings? Oct 25 13:55:26 my slug cant seem to contact ipkg.nslu2-linux.org, but it can ping google.com for example Oct 25 13:56:42 can i manually download the packages and extract them onto the slug Oct 25 14:03:08 have you set default gateway and dns servers? Oct 25 14:03:42 yes, nslookup resolves the ip Oct 25 14:04:44 the gateway info is in /etc/network/interfaces? Oct 25 14:06:43 i found it in /etc/default/sysconf, all of the settings are right Oct 25 14:07:28 im ssh'd into the slug right now and everything seems fine, but ipkg update cant get the package files from the server Oct 25 14:08:17 ping resolves the ip but it cant ping it either (ipkg.nslu2-linux.org) Oct 25 14:08:31 perhaps if you provided some detail about the problem, someone could help. With only your diagnosis presented, all we can do is scratch our heads and be as perplexed as you are. Oct 25 14:08:43 How about the error message you get from ipkg update? Oct 25 14:09:26 one sec, ill get it exactly Oct 25 14:10:13 it stalls for a very long time Oct 25 14:11:00 at Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugosbe/cross/4.8-beta/Packages.gz Oct 25 14:12:27 wget: Unable to connect to remote host (140.244.169.169): Connection timed out Oct 25 14:12:48 And what happens if you try to "wget" that same url? Oct 25 14:14:27 from the slug it hangs on connecting, from my laptop it downloads right away Oct 25 14:15:37 well it hung at 66% on my laptop Oct 25 14:17:37 Downloaded fine here... Oct 25 14:18:02 sounds like there's a network problem somewhere between your hosts and the server. Oct 25 14:19:55 it finally downloaded on my laptop, albeit slowly Oct 25 14:20:11 very odd Oct 25 14:20:44 And I get a different IP address for ipkg.nslu2-linux.org Oct 25 14:21:04 So I wonder if your DNS server is up to date, or if you have a hosts file entry that is out of date? Oct 25 14:21:09 maybe opendns is borked Oct 25 14:21:19 let me try that Oct 25 14:50:15 giant doh here, it was opendns Oct 25 14:50:23 reflashing to change my dns Oct 25 14:50:57 first time ive ever had a problem with it Oct 25 14:51:40 Why would you have to reflash to change dns? Oct 25 14:51:53 If you are running slugos just re-run "turnup init" Oct 25 14:52:12 that would have been quite useful to know about 90 seconds ago Oct 25 14:52:36 hehe learn something new every day Oct 25 15:03:03 ping slug Oct 25 15:03:06 doh Oct 25 15:22:52 i'm following cyris.com's debian installation procedure and he has a warning about using guided partitioning on a 1gb flash drive Oct 25 15:23:09 can i use guided partition on 2gb flash drive? Oct 25 15:23:18 a 2gb* Oct 25 15:48:20 yep, it was opendns, im downloading samba now Oct 25 15:49:00 i wouldnt recommend guided partitioning for a slug really, unless its slug-specific settings Oct 25 15:53:34 okay Oct 25 15:53:37 thanks Oct 25 15:53:48 found a debian instal guide in the mean time :P Oct 25 15:53:54 install* Oct 25 15:57:52 NLSU2 IS GOOD :) Oct 25 15:58:23 lol Oct 25 15:58:44 damagednoob ahaahahah :D:D:D 2 laugth... :D Oct 25 16:06:59 hi Oct 25 16:08:37 i need some help with my new NSLU2-uk Oct 25 16:10:07 any one there? Oct 25 16:19:40 what's the prob ross? Oct 25 16:26:18 hi Oct 25 16:26:34 the MAC address of the divice how do i find it? Oct 25 16:27:02 ifconfig -a Oct 25 16:27:07 i have it printed on the bottem of the device and the box it came in but its not 12 digets long and my router will not acept it as a valid MAC Oct 25 16:27:31 whats it? Oct 25 16:27:36 do i plug the divice directly into my computer? Oct 25 16:27:40 1 sec let me get box Oct 25 16:27:43 no Oct 25 16:27:49 whats it say electronically Oct 25 16:28:23 i need 2 plug it directly into my computer, go to cmd, then ipconfig/all Oct 25 16:28:29 and that will give me it right? Oct 25 16:29:05 * mwester wonders why the heck so few people use the wiki???????? Oct 25 16:29:10 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/MacAddress Oct 25 16:29:15 Sigh. Oct 25 16:29:20 mwester, tis weird Oct 25 16:29:27 especially when they've probably come via it Oct 25 16:29:36 because i have never used wiki Oct 25 16:30:09 also it seems clumbersome to use Oct 25 16:31:21 :/ Oct 25 16:33:20 also that page you directed me to makes no sence to me, lol Oct 25 16:36:28 ye, no sence at all Oct 25 16:37:36 Most of the stuff isnt really for the basic end user - as most of the users that are sticking custom os's on the device, chances are, would be more advanced computer users or linux users Oct 25 16:38:01 well im use to windows Oct 25 16:38:43 lol, and i am an end user, i just want to know how i find the 12 diget MAC address of my NSLU2-UK then i can add it to my network Oct 25 16:39:06 the MAC address i am given is: LKG684AA0 Oct 25 16:39:14 thats the serial number Oct 25 16:39:44 The first paragraph of that wiki article tells you how to get that. It states that the last 6 digits of your MAC address is the same as the last 6 digits of the LKG number. Oct 25 16:39:57 the S/N: SGA00F201062 Oct 25 16:40:09 Then it goes on to explain that there are three possibliteis for the first 6 digits, and tell you what those might be. Oct 25 16:40:15 heh Oct 25 16:40:25 So all you have to do, clearly, is to try the three combinations to see which one is your device. Oct 25 16:40:27 mine lists a proper mac address under it Oct 25 16:40:39 If you do not wish to do that, it goes on to explain other ways to get that information. Oct 25 16:41:05 does anyone ever downgraded back to linksys firmware? Oct 25 16:41:07 But frankly, I would put it on my network, and if I was a Windows user I would use the CD that came with it to run the Linksys setup utility. Oct 25 16:41:39 If you don't have the CD, you can download the setup tool from Linksys. It will find the NSLU2 and allow you to configure it so that you can see it on your network. Oct 25 16:42:08 It will probably also tell you the mac address, but if not, once it's on your network, you can get that using the web browser admin page from the NSLU2. Oct 25 16:42:09 luke76, if things go wrong sometimes they do Oct 25 16:42:21 luke76: I do so all the time. Oct 25 16:42:22 :-/ Oct 25 16:42:29 That makes you unhappy? Oct 25 16:42:38 how do you downgrade Oct 25 16:42:44 do you use unslug2? Oct 25 16:42:45 carnt show it on my network that the problem, my router just completly denyes it because of MAC filtering Oct 25 16:42:52 yeah, upslug 2 will do that Oct 25 16:43:10 and then? Oct 25 16:43:14 but thank you for your help i will give it a go Oct 25 16:43:26 i tried but i can't find it on the net Oct 25 16:43:28 and then? it will be back on stock firmware Oct 25 16:43:34 ross1235402004: then use the wiki page -- it tells you how to figure out the three possible choices for the address. Oct 25 16:43:46 mmmh Oct 25 16:43:54 luke76: how did you not "find it on the net"? Oct 25 16:43:58 what does that mean? Oct 25 16:44:25 i did nmap -sV -p 22 192.168.1-254.1-254 but that doesnt show a open http port ... Oct 25 16:44:51 If it's in upgrade mode it won't be responding to anything other than the special network packets for firmware download Oct 25 16:44:54 that scans for all open http Ports Oct 25 16:45:02 You don't use a browser to upload software. Oct 25 16:45:05 after rebooting Oct 25 16:45:19 after flashing Oct 25 16:45:29 the original firmware Oct 25 16:45:38 Perhaps you should start by telling us what you did, from start to finish, becasue I am confused. Oct 25 16:46:09 i flashed an original linksys firmware by using upslug2 Oct 25 16:46:19 after that the slug rebooted Oct 25 16:46:46 but, i wasn't able to se it on the net by using the nmap command Oct 25 16:47:06 Ok. So what makes you think that the firmware flash failed? Oct 25 16:47:12 since the original firmware should give me a http-config page as i see Oct 25 16:47:32 Did you get an error from upslug2? Oct 25 16:47:38 i did not sei, that firmware flashing failed! Oct 25 16:47:48 say Oct 25 16:47:50 sorry Oct 25 16:48:28 Ok. Then we can safely assume that the reflash of the original Linksys firmware was performed correctly. Oct 25 16:48:35 Therefore the problem must be something else. Oct 25 16:48:43 Did you slug beep after it rebooted? Oct 25 16:49:02 thats something you are assuming Oct 25 16:49:13 no, it did not beep Oct 25 16:49:23 What am I assuming? Oct 25 16:49:36 i waited nearly 1 hour Oct 25 16:50:01 you assume that flashing failed i'm not as fast in tipping as the IRC Client :-) Oct 25 16:50:26 i need to translate some german words ... Oct 25 16:50:30 that take some time Oct 25 16:51:02 so what do you think might be the reason why the slug doesn't beep? Oct 25 16:51:33 luke76, you could use german Oct 25 16:51:34 Ok, unplug everything from the NSLU2, then plug in the power supply, and turn it on. It should beep when it completes the boot, in no more than 3 - 5 minutes Oct 25 16:52:03 ok Oct 25 16:52:09 just powered off Oct 25 16:52:12 and restarts Oct 25 16:52:22 led's are flashing Oct 25 16:52:45 now ... orange, green, off, off Oct 25 16:52:57 no action on network led Oct 25 16:53:17 THere should be no network cable plugged in Oct 25 16:53:21 ok Oct 25 16:53:23 mom Oct 25 16:53:39 2nd try Oct 25 16:53:42 sorry! Oct 25 16:54:12 mwester: is there a way to stop ipkg from showing postinst script errors? Oct 25 16:54:49 is it neccessary that after flashing there should not be anything connected? Oct 25 16:54:51 I don't think so -- you would need to modify the postinst script so that it would not display errors (assuming that the errors are not important) Oct 25 16:54:58 luke76: No. Oct 25 16:55:15 luke76: but it's hard to debug if there are external devices that may be confusing it. Oct 25 16:56:07 where is the postinst script? Oct 25 16:56:21 its very annoying how when I install something i get 5 lines or so of the actual install Oct 25 16:56:27 and 30 lines of errors from past installs Oct 25 16:56:40 Ah. Oct 25 16:56:52 You asked the wrong question :) Oct 25 16:57:16 well, everyone starts with: postinst script ... Oct 25 16:57:18 The postinst script is provided by the developer of the package, and is part of each ipkg Oct 25 16:57:30 So as a user, you cannot change it. Oct 25 16:58:00 If you wish for those messages to go away, the best way is to solve the problem that is causing them to fail, so that they can complete the install. Oct 25 16:58:30 ipkg is assuming that the postinst failures have resulted in an incomplete install of the package, so it will keep trying to finish the install until it works. Oct 25 16:59:52 what would happen Oct 25 16:59:53 if say Oct 25 17:00:01 I deleted every single on of the .postinst files Oct 25 17:00:18 in /opt/lib/ipkg/info Oct 25 17:00:57 dunno. What would happen if I removed the engine temperature gauge in my car because it kept telling me that the engine was overheating? ;) Oct 25 17:01:36 I *suppose* I could get away with it, if in fact, the reading from my temperature guage was faulty. But... Oct 25 17:01:43 hmm Oct 25 17:01:47 I think I'll back them up Oct 25 17:01:50 and then remove them Oct 25 17:02:10 Ok. I guess I am wondering why you don't just fix whatever is wrong so that the scripts can finish their work? Oct 25 17:02:32 hi, where do i find the MAC address in admin settings on the web interface Oct 25 17:02:43 well, the errors are silly Oct 25 17:03:05 like lighttpd giving an error because the postinst doesn't have the correct path to start lighttpd in it Oct 25 17:03:17 lighttpd works perfect though Oct 25 17:03:24 and starts up on startup thanks to me Oct 25 17:03:39 I think these are optware conflicts for slugos Oct 25 17:04:21 did you let anyone know that there might be problems with the postinst scripts for these pacakges? Oct 25 17:05:02 no Oct 25 17:05:07 well, removing them seemed to work Oct 25 17:05:18 did an install and it said configuring .... Oct 25 17:05:24 for each package that was erroring out Oct 25 17:05:32 installed another package and now that is gone also :) Oct 25 17:06:44 Well, ok. But it seems rather concerning to me. You might very well have some packages that are not properly installed, which could cause other problems in the future. Oct 25 17:07:17 nah, all of these apps have been installed since I installed slugos Oct 25 17:07:19 over a year ago Oct 25 17:07:42 Please make sure that you uninstall and reinstall those packages if you have problems, or at the very least let someone who is trying to help you with a problem know that you have done this -- so they don't waste a lot of time if they just assume everything is correctly installed. Oct 25 17:08:22 Configuring cyrus-sasl Oct 25 17:08:22 Configuring dropbear Oct 25 17:08:22 Configuring lighttpd Oct 25 17:08:22 Configuring mysql Oct 25 17:08:22 Configuring openldap Oct 25 17:08:32 those were the ones having postinst errors Oct 25 17:08:43 mmmhhhh Oct 25 17:08:51 waited 10 min Oct 25 17:09:05 what does this mean? Oct 25 17:10:04 Yeah, pretty fundamental stuff that had trouble, it seems -- so if they all had failures, then something is wrong somewhere. I wouldn't consider your problem fixed, IMO you just did something very much like remove the temperature indicator instead of fixing the radiator. Oct 25 17:10:15 luke76: Just that it didn't boot up all the way. Oct 25 17:10:38 like I said Oct 25 17:10:41 I looked at two of them Oct 25 17:10:53 mysql was a missing pid file (which is actually there) Oct 25 17:11:03 lighttpd was just a wrong pointer to the S80lighttpd file Oct 25 17:11:03 jniejnfgsdg: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/MacAddress Oct 25 17:11:09 DrJ: Ok. I'm not arguing with you, I'm just providing my opinion. Oct 25 17:12:04 luke76: what firmware were you running previously, and were you using a static IP address or a DHCP address? Oct 25 17:12:48 i was running debian 4.0 rc3 Oct 25 17:12:53 static ip Oct 25 17:13:11 then i tried "lenny installer" for newinstall Oct 25 17:13:38 after that everything went wrong and i wanted to reinstall linksys original firmware Oct 25 17:13:43 Ok. Then plug the NSLU2 into the network, and try to "ping" it at both the static address you gave it, as well as the Linksys default 192.168.1.77 Oct 25 17:13:46 to start from beginning Oct 25 17:14:40 no ping on both Oct 25 17:14:51 nmap also dont show open ports Oct 25 17:15:22 What was the static IP you gave it? Oct 25 17:15:32 192.168.16.25 Oct 25 17:15:39 in my own network system Oct 25 17:15:43 Ah, so you are on a different network then. Oct 25 17:15:44 LAN config was ok Oct 25 17:15:53 Yes, but it might not be anymore, right? Oct 25 17:16:02 no, i also tested from laptop with direct connection! Oct 25 17:16:07 If the NSLU2 is back on 192.168.1.77, then you can't ping it. Oct 25 17:16:22 i know , for this i used Laptop Oct 25 17:16:32 Did you do that just now? Oct 25 17:16:33 with modified lan setup Oct 25 17:16:38 yes Oct 25 17:16:48 Ok, but it could be that your modified lan setup is not right? Oct 25 17:17:06 ehm ... no, i dont think so Oct 25 17:19:25 windows linksys tools also dont show a slug ... Oct 25 17:21:20 Try resetting the sysconf partition,then. http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ResetSysConf Oct 25 17:21:53 use extreme caution when doing that, as missing a single character in the "fis erase" command can erase your bootloader and brick the slug. Oct 25 17:22:17 mmmh Oct 25 17:22:24 is there another way to go? Oct 25 17:22:25 But before you do that, try using the Linksys technique to reset the sysconfig Oct 25 17:23:47 ok Oct 25 17:24:25 i will take a closer look at the FAQ befor i try it! Oct 25 17:24:42 but now i have to leave for some hours Oct 25 17:24:49 That is documented in the Linksys documentation. Oct 25 17:24:49 well, thanks mwester ... wasn't arguing with you ... or at least didn't mean too ... I am working here on less than 1 hour of sleep last night Oct 25 17:24:51 thx Oct 25 17:25:06 see you later! Oct 25 17:25:06 DrJ: np - just trying to save you future trouble is all. Oct 25 20:39:07 having a problem with ntfs support Oct 25 20:39:29 i looked at the faq and it doesn't mention the error i'm getting for ntfs-3g Oct 25 20:40:03 the error i get is : Oct 25 20:40:04 dpkg: error processing libntfs-3g0_0.0.0+20061031-6_i386.deb (--install): Oct 25 20:40:04 package architecture (i386) does not match system (arm) Oct 25 20:40:44 do i need to update the sources list to point to another repo that has ntfs-3g in it? Oct 25 20:43:22 hi Oct 25 20:44:08 yo Oct 25 21:13:35 how can i influence the network setup in debian installer Oct 25 21:14:52 is there a manual way to set the network without using the original firmware? Oct 25 21:15:12 my installer doesn't come up Oct 25 21:15:45 and i also can't find the ip of the slug Oct 25 21:16:05 was your slug using dhcp? Oct 25 21:16:10 nope Oct 25 21:16:32 but i tried lenny installer an now everything seems to be broken Oct 25 21:16:57 did you use the official debian flash? Oct 25 21:17:00 i tried to downgrade to original firmware ... doesn't work Oct 25 21:17:18 the beep is missing after flashing Oct 25 21:18:51 yes lenny 5beta Oct 25 21:19:25 now trying to use debian-4.0r3 installer Oct 25 21:19:42 but wenn flashing the slug shows same behaviour Oct 25 21:19:46 no beep Oct 25 21:19:51 mmm Oct 25 21:19:52 http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/install.html Oct 25 21:19:54 installer doesn't come up Oct 25 21:20:05 that guy says you have to use an unofficial image Oct 25 21:20:33 i have an unofficial image! from cyrius site Oct 25 21:20:35 because debian doesn't support the ethernet officially Oct 25 21:20:57 oh Oct 25 21:21:35 Debian/NSLU2 Stable 4.0r3 Oct 25 21:21:44 is an inofficial version! Oct 25 21:22:34 other ideas? Oct 25 21:22:46 i tried to downgrade Oct 25 21:22:48 nope! Oct 25 21:22:57 also clear Redbook Oct 25 21:23:15 doesn' work, same problem Oct 25 21:23:19 ideas? Oct 25 21:24:20 tried nmap -sV -p 22,110 192.168.0-254.1-128 to find slug ... Oct 25 21:24:23 no success Oct 25 21:56:37 is there a way to configure the installer? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 26 02:59:57 2008