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Oct 18 13:42:23 <Mysterious> hello
Oct 18 13:42:56 <Mysterious> i have got a little problem
Oct 18 13:44:02 <Mysterious> I do not posess a router though my NSLU2 is not connected to the internet
Oct 18 13:44:30 <Mysterious> I just flashed it with nslu2/debian
Oct 18 13:44:43 <Mysterious> now I want to install it
Oct 18 13:46:25 <Mysterious> how can I make the debian installer using my pppoe-dsl dialup connection
Oct 18 13:49:26 <Mysterious> Please help me
Oct 18 14:19:13 <Mysterious> come on please help me :/
Oct 18 14:26:47 <CoreDump|home> you want to hook up you DSL modem to the slug and make the installer dial for you?
Oct 18 14:27:38 <CoreDump|home> you want to hook up you DSL modem to the slug and make the installer dial for you
Oct 18 14:27:42 <CoreDump|home> meh
Oct 18 14:27:52 <CoreDump|home> I don't think the slug has a kernel with the required models (I could be wrong tho)
Oct 18 14:28:07 <CoreDump|home> *modules
Oct 18 14:29:26 <Mysterious> :/
Oct 18 14:30:02 <Mysterious> sorry there was no message notification
Oct 18 14:30:07 <CoreDump|home> if your pc has two NICs you could connect the modem to the first, the slug to the second, and route between the two
Oct 18 14:30:18 <Mysterious> I finally got it
Oct 18 14:31:10 <CoreDump|home> the "meh" was about me, reposting an old line by accident, not a complaint ;)
Oct 18 14:31:14 <Mysterious> I had to set up a http.proxy on my pc which is connected to a hub. (the nslu is connected either)
Oct 18 14:31:21 <Mysterious> oh ok^^
Oct 18 15:30:27 <Mysterious> :( the ssh connection to my nslu2 crashes all the time
Oct 18 15:31:19 <Mysterious> I think the nslu crashed -.-
Oct 18 15:31:49 <Mysterious> I have been trying to install the firmware for hours 
Oct 18 15:34:57 <Mysterious> I am using Putty on windows because the nslu can't be accessed in ubuntu
Oct 18 15:51:50 <Mysterious> hell -.-
Oct 18 15:52:19 <Mysterious> The failing step is: Install the system
Oct 18 15:52:44 <Mysterious> How can I solve such an error
Oct 18 15:58:35 <mwester> Install SlugOS instead.
Oct 18 15:58:48 <Mysterious> hm
Oct 18 15:58:53 <mwester> (but I am biased, so don't necessarily take my words at face value)
Oct 18 15:58:56 <Mysterious> where are the differences
Oct 18 16:00:09 <mwester> Debian is debian.  And that's about all it has going for it (which is a powerful lot of stuff indeed).  But the cost is that it cannot run from the internal flash, only the installer can run from flash, and it is nearly impossible without a serial console to solve installer problems.
Oct 18 16:00:56 <Mysterious> oh ... that's a pitty
Oct 18 16:01:00 <mwester> SlugOS is not debian, and has a much smaller set of packages.  But it is designed to run from internal flash, switch to external disk or flash drive, and in case of trouble run from internal flash.
Oct 18 16:01:14 <mwester> So SlugOS is much easier to debug, troubleshoot, and recover.
Oct 18 16:01:24 <mwester> But you don't have the debian packages.
Oct 18 16:01:30 <mwester> This is on the wiki somewhere.
Oct 18 16:02:57 <Mysterious> :/
Oct 18 16:03:02 <mwester> You have an odd network setup, one that does not lend itself to the needs of debian it would seem.  So you can continue to work with debian -- perrhaps the debian-arm IRC channel (which is not on this freenode network; see the wiki for where it is) may offer help.  Or you can switch your network to use a router, which should make all installers happy.
Oct 18 16:04:48 <Mysterious> humm...
Oct 18 16:05:58 <mwester> It could be that you've just run into some of the known issues with the debian installer, such as requiring swap space on the drive -- have you considered that?
Oct 18 16:05:58 <Mysterious> I don't really understand the problem about debian...
Oct 18 16:06:13 <mwester> I don't do debian, so I don't know what the installer does either.
Oct 18 16:07:34 <Mysterious> :S
Oct 18 16:10:31 <Mysterious> I wonder why the instructions told me to flash nslu/debian to my nslu
Oct 18 16:10:53 <Mysterious> if it's not possible to run it from there
Oct 18 16:11:19 <Mysterious> well i ran the installer and tried to install the os on an usb-stick
Oct 18 16:12:27 <mwester> Dunno to what instructions you refer -- I thought all the instructions are clear that what you are flashing is the installer, and the NSLU2 needs a disk or flash stick onto which it will install debian.
Oct 18 16:12:47 <mwester> SlugOS is the one that can run without an external disk or flash-stick, not Debian.
Oct 18 16:13:12 <mwester> Oh - OpenWRT can run from flash as well, and is even smaller than SlugOS.
Oct 18 16:15:11 <Mysterious> I think we misunderstood each other ^^
Oct 18 16:16:37 <Mysterious> I accepted that I have to install the debian dist. on an external drive
Oct 18 16:19:16 <Mysterious> i already started the setup with putty and followed the setup steps
Oct 18 16:20:31 <mwester> Right.  And then something related to the networking goes wrong, and the installer cannot continue.
Oct 18 16:20:41 <Mysterious> hm
Oct 18 16:20:50 <mwester> And you have no means to troubleshoot it, it would seem.
Oct 18 16:21:04 <mwester> So you have several choices.
Oct 18 16:21:19 <mwester> a) find the debian-arm channel or mailing list and ask them for help
Oct 18 16:21:31 <mwester> b) change your network to a traditional router-based network
Oct 18 16:21:45 <mwester> c) select a firmware that can handle the network as you have it.
Oct 18 16:22:01 <mwester> d) continue to try various things until it works.
Oct 18 16:22:06 <Mysterious> but there aren't problems in my network anymore
Oct 18 16:22:21 <mwester> Oh?  How do you know that?  
Oct 18 16:23:46 <Mysterious> the setup offered the opportunity to select a proxy i did that and it seemed that the setup downloaded some packs from the mirrors
Oct 18 16:24:07 <mwester> "seemed" <--
Oct 18 16:24:19 <Mysterious> ;_;
Oct 18 16:24:49 <mwester> But even if you assume that your network is now perfect, it doesn't change your situation -- you still have options a, c, and d to try. :)
Oct 18 16:25:28 <Mysterious> I never felt as stupid as today
Oct 18 16:25:52 <mwester> Or you can add e) wait on this channel to see if one of the folks idleing knows the debian installer well, and will look in sometime and respond.
Oct 18 16:26:06 <mwester> I'm certain one of the many folks on the channel must know the debian stuff.
Oct 18 16:26:28 <mwester> But I cannot help beyond the suggestions offered, so I'll bow out of the discussion at this point - good luck!
Oct 18 16:27:13 <Mysterious> ok thank you for your help
Oct 18 20:49:47 <Mysterious> hello! it's me again -.-
Oct 18 20:53:32 <Mysterious> this time i tried to use a pre-created image. I put it on my USB-Stick but it didn't work
Oct 18 21:22:05 <CoreDump|home> you really should try SlugOS if you run into problems with Debian.
Oct 19 00:38:29 <Slick666> Hey Slug Fans
Oct 19 00:38:56 <Slick666> I had a general question about an interesting piece of hardware recently fellintomy lap
Oct 19 00:39:09 <Slick666> I got ahold of an apple Airport express
Oct 19 00:39:40 <Slick666> This is a little device that plugs into the wall andlooks like a power adapter
Oct 19 00:39:46 <Slick666> it has wifi, Ethernet, USB, and Audio out
Oct 19 00:40:14 <Slick666> I can't seem to find any web pages where someone has hacked this thing
Oct 19 00:40:25 <Slick666> does anyone here know of anyone hacking this thing?
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