**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 09 02:59:58 2010 Mar 09 03:01:03 now my problem is that my system is unstable and shuts down when a drive is running on each USB port. Mar 09 03:01:40 each drive alone is ok, but both causes the slug to powerdown hard Mar 09 14:30:37 Anyone using Debian on their Slug? Mar 09 14:37:32 Yep. Mar 09 14:38:10 When you installed Debian fresh did you choose to install the packages for file server and print server? Mar 09 14:38:30 That's two years ago, I can't remember. :) Mar 09 14:38:41 Or would it have been better to wait until the install finished with just the base system and install later? Mar 09 14:38:44 Ok Mar 09 14:38:50 Perhaps. Mar 09 14:39:01 I don't think it should matter either way. Mar 09 14:40:06 Do you have an opinion on encrypting a disk for a filer server? Mar 09 14:40:32 I just want to protect the data in case someone takes it... Mar 09 14:57:40 I should have waited for the base system to install before trying to install the "file server" and "print server" packages. Mar 09 14:58:15 The "Select and install software" just reported "Installation step failed" Mar 09 14:58:39 fuzzy: I use truecrypt. I just place a truecrypt container file on the slug file system, and access it and mount in on my other computers. Mar 09 14:58:42 Works fine. Mar 09 14:58:45 Maybe a 1GB usb stick was not enough with my partition Mar 09 14:59:02 Thanks... That is what I use on Windows machines... Mar 09 14:59:56 I think you can build truecrypt for slug to mount locally, but I didn't try that. Mar 09 15:00:01 Now I got put back in the "Debian installer main menu"... What should I do next. Mar 09 15:00:22 I don't know. :-) Mar 09 15:01:01 I guess just the next thing in the list.... Mar 09 15:01:27 After "Select and install software" I have "Make the system bootable" Mar 09 15:02:52 That failed too... Shoot. Maybe I should start over? Mar 09 15:09:04 I used guided partitioning before with separate /home. This made 131MB /boot, 518MB /, 255MB swap, 140MB /home... Mar 09 15:09:54 Now that I have to reformat and install as I assume that I filled up the root partition... Any suggestions on slicing up a 1GB usb stick? Mar 09 15:26:40 I chose guided again without a separate /home. Does the /boot partition really need to be 128MB? Mar 09 15:43:49 fuzzy: i like to have boot at least 1GB personally, Mar 09 15:43:55 but hey, i'm crazy. Mar 09 15:44:21 also i wouldnt advise you encrypt the filesystem, i doubt the slugs cpu will perform well if you do. Mar 09 15:44:45 Ok... Well I will see how this works with the current layout.. Mar 09 15:44:59 as for partitioning, Mar 09 15:45:01 Installing the base system again... Mar 09 15:45:09 i would just use the "one big partition" option. Mar 09 15:45:46 Does that option still create a separate swap? If so that is what I chose. Mar 09 15:45:51 yeah Mar 09 15:45:54 it should do. Mar 09 15:46:09 1GB is a bit small - the smallest ive used was 4GB Mar 09 15:46:11 but having said that, Mar 09 15:46:15 1GB should be plenty. Mar 09 15:46:40 anyway, nearly home time! Mar 09 15:46:42 see you later. Mar 09 15:46:44 It still seems strange running a full desktop distro on an embedded appliance... Mar 09 15:46:47 Thanks Mar 09 16:23:50 I have a choice of three kernels... Anyone know which one to select? All begin with "linux-image", 1. "-2.6-ixp4xx", 2. "-2.6.26.2-ixp4xx", 3. "-ixp4xx"??? Mar 09 16:24:04 I am guessing the most specific? Mar 09 16:24:31 Sorry this is for a Debian install... Mar 09 16:55:02 fuzzy: i would select 2 Mar 09 16:55:19 That is what I chose. Thanks. Mar 09 16:55:33 crab@kowloontong:~$ uname -a Mar 09 16:55:33 Linux kowloontong 2.6.26-2-ixp4xx #1 Thu Nov 5 05:37:51 UTC 2009 armv5tel GNU/Linux Mar 09 16:55:38 thats what this machine is running. Mar 09 16:55:45 Great! Mar 09 16:55:54 (actually i think it has a newer one, but i need to reboot) Mar 09 17:00:04 Do you have a 233MHz processor? Mar 09 17:01:26 hmm Mar 09 17:01:28 yes Mar 09 17:01:31 :P Mar 09 17:01:37 well, Mar 09 17:01:40 let me put it this way, Mar 09 17:01:53 2 of my slugs have "non-underclocked" processors Mar 09 17:02:01 and 1 of them has an underclocked processor Mar 09 17:02:15 im sure that one of those must be 233MHz. Mar 09 17:02:39 tbh i don't notice a huge difference between them Mar 09 17:02:41 Is there a big difference in speed when browsing for files... Mar 09 17:02:48 well, not really. Mar 09 17:03:04 I think you can cat /proc/cpuinfo to get the clock speed... Mar 09 17:03:05 but for me "browsing for files" means logging in and using "ls" Mar 09 17:03:09 not exactly Mar 09 17:03:14 it gives you the bogomips. Mar 09 17:03:19 I mean as a file server Mar 09 17:03:51 crab@shatin:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo Mar 09 17:03:52 Processor : XScale-IXP42x Family rev 1 (v5l) Mar 09 17:03:52 BogoMIPS : 132.71 Mar 09 17:03:52 Features : swp half thumb fastmult edsp Mar 09 17:03:52 CPU implementer : 0x69 Mar 09 17:03:54 CPU architecture: 5TE Mar 09 17:03:57 CPU variant : 0x0 Mar 09 17:03:59 CPU part : 0x41f Mar 09 17:04:02 CPU revision : 1 Mar 09 17:04:04 Hardware : Linksys NSLU2 Mar 09 17:04:07 Revision : 0000 Mar 09 17:04:09 Serial : 0000000000000000 Mar 09 17:04:12 thats the underclocked slug Mar 09 17:04:18 I see "cpu MHz" on my desktop... Mar 09 17:04:31 Ok... That makes sense Mar 09 17:04:38 rab@kowloontong:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo Mar 09 17:04:38 Processor : XScale-IXP42x Family rev 1 (v5l) Mar 09 17:04:38 BogoMIPS : 266.24 Mar 09 17:04:38 Features : swp half thumb fastmult edsp Mar 09 17:04:38 CPU implementer : 0x69 Mar 09 17:04:40 CPU architecture: 5TE Mar 09 17:04:43 CPU variant : 0x0 Mar 09 17:04:45 CPU part : 0x41f Mar 09 17:04:48 CPU revision : 1 Mar 09 17:04:50 Cache type : undefined 5 Mar 09 17:04:53 Cache clean : undefined 5 Mar 09 17:04:55 Cache lockdown : undefined 5 Mar 09 17:04:58 Cache format : Harvard Mar 09 17:05:00 I size : 32768 Mar 09 17:05:03 I assoc : 32 Mar 09 17:05:05 I line length : 32 Mar 09 17:05:08 I sets : 32 Mar 09 17:05:11 D size : 32768 Mar 09 17:05:13 D assoc : 32 Mar 09 17:05:16 D line length : 32 Mar 09 17:05:18 D sets : 32 Mar 09 17:05:21 Hardware : Linksys NSLU2 Mar 09 17:05:23 Revision : 0000 Mar 09 17:05:26 Serial : 0000000000000000 Mar 09 17:05:28 and thats the "non-underclocked" Mar 09 17:05:39 Did you perform the hardware mod to get it to "non-underclocked"? Mar 09 17:05:42 the other differences are most likely due to different kernels. Mar 09 17:05:43 no Mar 09 17:05:48 they are new Mar 09 17:05:53 the other one is really old Mar 09 17:06:07 i think linksys stopped underclocking them at some stage. Mar 09 17:06:10 Ahh... Well mine are really old then Mar 09 17:06:51 i have to say (and i'll be very happy if you prove me wrong) that i don't think the slug makes a great fileserver Mar 09 17:07:06 ive not really built one with the sole intention of using it for that purpose, Mar 09 17:07:19 so i cant say i have tested it thoroughly Mar 09 17:07:21 What do you use them for? Mar 09 17:07:28 well, Mar 09 17:07:39 i use one for my mailserver / ftp / webserver Mar 09 17:07:47 and the other for irssi mainly Mar 09 17:08:02 the third is a "screen server" where i run my main screen session for my home machines, Mar 09 17:08:09 and that one also has bitlbee running on it. Mar 09 17:08:33 if you are just using it for personal use, and you are patient it should work o.k. Mar 09 17:08:38 (as a file server) Mar 09 17:08:45 and i may actually be talking bullshit, Mar 09 17:08:54 Why do you host an irssi server? Mar 09 17:08:58 Just for fun? Mar 09 17:09:14 as ive never actually put samba on it (or nfs) and tested Mar 09 17:09:21 fuzzy: irssi client Mar 09 17:09:24 not server. Mar 09 17:09:47 Ahh "The client of the future" Mar 09 17:10:24 the one with apache, Mar 09 17:10:28 is actually hosting 4 websites Mar 09 17:10:41 uhm, 6 Mar 09 17:10:52 actually the same 3 sites, but ipv4 and ipv6 versions. Mar 09 17:11:05 but they dont get any traffic really. Mar 09 17:11:28 so its not like it tests the slugs power as a webserving platform. Mar 09 17:11:36 So how are you FTP transfer rates? Say if you are locally connected. Can you saturate the link? Mar 09 17:11:57 pretty good i guess. Mar 09 17:12:04 ive never really tested. Mar 09 17:12:08 Apache forks for every client session I think... That could bog down pretty quick on a webserver Mar 09 17:12:12 ive used one for bittorrent Mar 09 17:12:19 Gotta run to lunch... Back in an hour Mar 09 17:12:34 fuzzy: yeah Mar 09 17:12:47 if my websites were popular i think the slug would die Mar 09 17:13:01 esp. since some of the content is dynamically created from perl scripts! Mar 09 20:13:32 Not sure if anyone has been paying attention to my posts today.... Mar 09 20:14:00 I have a question now that I am at the end of the install and ready to reboot. Mar 09 20:14:45 Using Debian the installation failed once when I tried to install more packages from the install proces. Mar 09 20:15:38 I was able to repartition my usb stick and install the base system. I do not think it asked me to set the admin password again though... Mar 09 20:16:26 Now it is ready to reboot. Should I? Or should I "Go Back" and make sure there is an admin password set and add a user account? Mar 09 20:16:28 hmmm Mar 09 20:16:39 it should have asked you to set a password. Mar 09 20:16:49 dunno what you did! ;P Mar 09 20:17:28 infact, i think it should ask you to set a root password, AND create a normal user too (supplying a password for that user as well) Mar 09 20:17:51 Since it never rebooted from the initial failed install would those values still be in memory from the first time I set them? Mar 09 20:18:02 well, Mar 09 20:18:08 im not sure what you mean by a failed install. Mar 09 20:18:21 if you interrupt the installer and then reboot the slug, Mar 09 20:18:30 the installer should still be there, Mar 09 20:18:36 but it should start from scratch. Mar 09 20:18:57 if you /completed/ the entire debian install process, Mar 09 20:18:59 I selected to install the additional packages "File Server" and "Print Server" Mar 09 20:19:02 but then the slug did not boot, Mar 09 20:19:22 during the first install... but something did not work correctly... Mar 09 20:19:22 then something strange happened. Mar 09 20:19:34 I think I ran out of space... Mar 09 20:19:39 yeah Mar 09 20:19:42 Only using a 1GB usb stick Mar 09 20:19:47 in that case, Mar 09 20:19:58 So I got kicked back to the installer selection menu. Mar 09 20:20:02 i think you are best off re-flashing the installer and starting from scratch. Mar 09 20:20:09 i dont think 1GB is enough for a useful system. Mar 09 20:20:17 i think 4GB as a miniumum is prob. wise. Mar 09 20:20:27 I deleted the partitions and installed the base system again... Mar 09 20:20:44 well like i said, Mar 09 20:20:55 a normal debian installer should ask you to set a root password, Mar 09 20:21:01 Before installing those additional packages the first time I already set an admin and user password Mar 09 20:21:02 and it should ask you to create a normal user. Mar 09 20:21:37 So those would have persisted in memory during the base install process. Mar 09 20:21:39 it doesnt matter if you set a password, Mar 09 20:21:47 if the install didnt complete, and you rebooted the slug, Mar 09 20:21:55 it should ask again the next time you run the install. Mar 09 20:22:01 or did you only do 1 install? Mar 09 20:22:13 but you are talking about going backwards and forwards in the install? Mar 09 20:22:17 changing your mind about stuff? Mar 09 20:22:25 Kind of... Mar 09 20:22:27 if the latter Mar 09 20:22:41 then it won't forget the part where you set passwords / created users. Mar 09 20:23:19 OK thanks... That is what I thought since I am still running from the initial installer boot. Mar 09 20:23:32 Only one way to find out;-) Mar 09 20:23:59 Just rebooted Mar 09 20:24:03 yeah it should be o.k. Mar 09 20:24:08 if there is a problem, Mar 09 20:24:15 just start again, Mar 09 20:24:20 Will see if ssh works with the username I created before... Mar 09 20:24:28 accept all the defaults, Mar 09 20:24:34 and when it gets to the part about packages Mar 09 20:24:38 de-select everything Mar 09 20:24:45 That is funny... Starting again entail another day. Mar 09 20:24:46 you can make choices later Mar 09 20:24:57 but with 1GB you prob. won't be able to do much anyway! ;P Mar 09 20:25:03 fuzzy: yeah it is slow. Mar 09 20:25:21 but when you know what you are doing you will only have to do it once! :P Mar 09 20:25:27 Which is why I thought Open-WRT seemed like the better choice just not finding much documentation. Mar 09 20:25:37 the problem with open-wrt Mar 09 20:25:45 is that it is too lean really. Mar 09 20:25:50 and its designed for routers. Mar 09 20:25:56 (just my opinion) Mar 09 20:26:06 but i guess everyone has a proper philosophy. Mar 09 20:26:13 s/proper/different Mar 09 20:26:21 i personally view my slugs like normal computers. Mar 09 20:26:30 so i want a FULL linux distro. Mar 09 20:26:53 i would only consider open-wrt on a router. Mar 09 20:26:59 indeed i bought it for that reason, Mar 09 20:27:04 but im not really liking it so far. Mar 09 20:27:15 *bought a router to run open-wrt Mar 09 20:27:43 Why only a router? It just is configured out of the box to act like a router... Still a linux kernel and uclibc means really small footprint. Mar 09 20:28:25 I just like the idea of using the internal flash only to run app code... Not sure how that would work out though Mar 09 20:29:11 I guess I could always stop complaining and dive in to help create an Open-WRT NSLU2 build from scratch;-) Mar 09 20:29:28 the thing is the flash is too small. Mar 09 20:29:36 its like i said, i want to use it like a full computer, Mar 09 20:29:40 and with the slug i can! Mar 09 20:29:41 :P Mar 09 20:30:01 i can run 6 websites, have ipv6, use perl, Mar 09 20:30:05 What router did you get? Mar 09 20:30:16 (not on my router - on my slug) Mar 09 20:30:19 Rebooted and my username is working correctly. Thanks! Mar 09 20:30:25 my router is a wrt-54gl Mar 09 20:30:42 i thought i could easily set up a firewall Mar 09 20:30:49 using smoothwall and smoothwall6 Mar 09 20:30:51 I have an Asus WL-500W that I have been meaning to upgrade to Open-WRT... Mar 09 20:31:00 but im really not liking open-wrt Mar 09 20:31:12 and whats more, its documentation is a festering pile of confused mess Mar 09 20:31:39 (no disrespect to any open-wrt devs that may be lurking here!) Mar 09 20:31:45 Looks like much of the documentation with these niche products gets stale pretty fast... Mar 09 20:32:06 well yeah Mar 09 20:32:23 True... No disrespect... Mar 09 20:32:23 you just have to deal with it Mar 09 20:32:29 Indeed... Mar 09 20:32:32 and ive done it with other projects and stuff, Mar 09 20:32:37 but once debian is working... Mar 09 20:32:38 :P Mar 09 20:32:56 and thats why i dont use the flash... Mar 09 20:33:10 4GB usb sticks are cheap as chips. Mar 09 20:33:28 and 4GB is enough for a silent system, Mar 09 20:34:00 personally i have 500GB drives in my slugs, but hey, i realise im a nutter. Mar 09 20:34:07 s/in/on Mar 09 20:35:36 having said all of that, Mar 09 20:35:37 Do you run them with flash drive for the OS file system? Mar 09 20:35:46 If so do you then follow this: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/linux-on-flash.html Mar 09 20:35:50 if you are a programmer, then it could be different. Mar 09 20:36:08 no Mar 09 20:36:21 i just have the whole system on the external harddrive. Mar 09 20:36:50 I should probably follow the advice though it says "ote: this document currently describes Debian etch (4.0) and needs to be updated to Debian lenny (5.0). Some of the hints may still apply, but some may not." Mar 09 20:36:50 crab@shatin:~$ df -h Mar 09 20:36:50 Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on Mar 09 20:36:51 /dev/sda3 455G 3.8G 428G 1% / Mar 09 20:36:51 tmpfs 15M 0 15M 0% /lib/init/rw Mar 09 20:36:52 udev 10M 52K 10M 1% /dev Mar 09 20:36:54 tmpfs 15M 0 15M 0% /dev/shm Mar 09 20:36:57 /dev/sda1 1.9G 62M 1.8G 4% /boot Mar 09 20:36:59 none 1.0G 1.8M 1023M 1% /tmp Mar 09 20:38:10 in terms of up-to-date-ness, Mar 09 20:38:14 i think most of that stuff applies. Mar 09 20:38:23 i personally wouldnt worry about it too much though. Mar 09 20:38:29 i suppose some of it cant hurt. Mar 09 20:38:34 You are right about the 1GB part not being much... Mar 09 20:38:51 /dev/sda2 618M 456M 131M 78% / Mar 09 20:39:10 Not much room left for packages:-( Mar 09 20:39:24 well... Mar 09 20:39:43 4GB wont kill you! ;) Mar 09 20:40:19 I would have to reinstall... As a dd of the two drives would leave me with the same partition layout... Mar 09 20:40:21 it depends though Mar 09 20:40:32 yeah you'd have to reinstall Mar 09 20:40:38 but you got 131M of free space. Mar 09 20:40:45 depending on what you want to do with that slug, Mar 09 20:40:48 are usb sticks suitable to be used as system drive 24/7/365 ? Mar 09 20:40:53 you still have a LOT of possibilities. Mar 09 20:41:16 beo_: i had no problem using a 4GB memory stick with my slug (as only storage device) Mar 09 20:41:21 for well over 2 years Mar 09 20:41:29 Start with replication... I would just like to share files like the NSLU2 is supposed to... Mar 09 20:41:31 but i didnt use it intensely Mar 09 20:41:55 Just on the LAN... Windows clients Mar 09 20:42:00 alright, i was afraid there might be problems with it, but my 80gb is failing and i hardly use its capacity Mar 09 20:42:01 I guess SAMBA Mar 09 20:42:23 fuzzy: yep Mar 09 20:42:36 that should fit with no problem. Mar 09 20:42:55 beo_: i think if you use a lot of writes Mar 09 20:43:02 like serious amounts, Mar 09 20:43:09 you may kill a usb flash drive eventually Mar 09 20:43:11 but having said that, Mar 09 20:43:31 ive read a lot of stuff and heard a lot of stuff which says that situation has improved a lot. Mar 09 20:43:43 hm Mar 09 20:44:08 i think for home use and "dicking around" Mar 09 20:44:12 its fine. Mar 09 20:45:57 well i do rtorrent/ftp/bnc/ircbot :) Mar 09 20:46:54 i think the only thing you need to worry about is logging, Mar 09 20:47:01 and maybe for rtorrent where you write. Mar 09 20:47:13 Looks like the installed size of samba is just under 12MB for ARM... Mar 09 20:47:14 but even so i think you should be o.k. Mar 09 20:47:30 heh Mar 09 20:47:36 way bigger than i expected actually Mar 09 20:47:36 ill give it a try Mar 09 20:50:10 i went the other way! ;P Mar 09 20:50:18 started with 4GB flash, Mar 09 20:50:38 thought it was so cool, i went out and bought 2 more slugs, and 3 x 500GB seagate external drives. Mar 09 20:51:12 best thing about flash though is that its silent Mar 09 20:51:29 and the ones with huge leds look so cool Mar 09 20:53:44 Tried a Shevaplug yet? Mar 09 20:54:15 no Mar 09 20:54:36 i kind of wish that i had known more about the sheevaplugs when i bought my other 2 slugs, Mar 09 20:54:41 but there you go. Mar 09 20:54:48 :D Mar 09 20:54:48 im thinking about sheevaplug Mar 09 20:54:48 yea Mar 09 20:54:50 though i get used to to my hdd heh Mar 09 20:55:03 i also wish they made a 3 nic version Mar 09 20:55:06 that would be awesome Mar 09 20:55:14 id rush straight out and buy one then. Mar 09 20:55:32 although 2 x nic + usb -> ethernet... Mar 09 20:55:35 hmmm... Mar 09 20:55:37 still doable. Mar 09 20:55:47 Why 3? Mar 09 20:57:02 wan / lan / dmz Mar 09 20:57:46 But can't you just assign virtual devices to a single interface? Mar 09 20:57:46 i think i will buy one at some stage. Mar 09 20:57:57 fuzzy: i think you can Mar 09 20:58:07 but id prefer not to. Mar 09 20:58:54 Probably uplink second port to Switch for router functionality... Mar 09 20:58:55 http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=11 Mar 09 20:59:42 http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=5 Mar 09 20:59:48 Globalscale sells it on my side of the pond Mar 09 21:00:23 bookmarked! Mar 09 21:00:33 very tempted indeed. Mar 09 21:00:38 Cannot believe it take 2-3 weeks to ship! Mar 09 21:01:13 Maybe direct from China... Mar 09 21:04:19 If you order it from global scale, it's when they get in shipments from china Mar 09 21:05:34 Just talked to them. They have not been able to meet demand. They should have sufficient stock by mid April. Mar 09 21:06:15 They have a backorder of over 1000 units supposedly. Mar 09 21:07:09 Wonder when BestBuy is going to carry them;-) Mar 09 21:10:17 how could two disks attached to the usb ports cause a slug to powerdown? Mar 09 21:10:27 when each disk alone is fine? Mar 09 21:11:23 Are the disks self powered or are they being powered from the USB ports? Mar 09 21:14:29 chrisb: the supplied powersupply on the slug Mar 09 21:14:35 is known to be pretty crap Mar 09 21:15:04 and when it begins to die, it shows symptoms similar to what you are describing. Mar 09 21:15:40 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/PowerSupply Mar 09 21:15:48 i say that based on a combination of that page, Mar 09 21:15:52 and personal experience. Mar 09 21:16:02 They should have overcurrent protection on the USB port, give the plug a speaker and make it tell off the user if user connects >500mA drain to USB port. Mar 09 21:16:10 ..slug Mar 09 21:16:33 nah Mar 09 21:16:36 its perfect Mar 09 21:16:40 just needs a better psu Mar 09 21:16:45 ;P Mar 09 21:16:59 which is fortunately easy to replace Mar 09 21:17:06 yes Mar 09 21:17:10 ethernet died on my slug :( Mar 09 21:17:25 ouch Mar 09 21:17:34 touch wood that one psu has been my only fatality Mar 09 21:18:04 NSLU2 has more reliable USB than sheevaplug Mar 09 21:18:17 interesting Mar 09 21:18:21 in what way? Mar 09 21:19:22 What do I lose if I replace openssh with dropbear. I gain memory. Mar 09 21:19:50 In that you don't have to hunt for working HUB & device combinations :) Mar 09 21:20:46 fuzzy: i think i had some dodginess with scp / sftp once Mar 09 21:20:51 it's 2010, and USB3 is around the corner, but we still haven't debugged USB2. Way to go, humanity! \o/ Mar 09 21:21:00 but that may have been on angstrom on my zaurus Mar 09 21:22:01 ShadowJK: no point bothering with that now! ;) Mar 09 21:22:08 usb3 is just round the corner! :P Mar 09 21:22:39 using dropbear? Mar 09 21:22:44 nope Mar 09 21:22:50 im using openssh on mine Mar 09 21:22:52 And then in 2020 we're like "usb3 is ALMOST working now... look, if I plug in this printer BEFORE the mouse, it works, but not the other way around... oh screw it, USB4 is just around the corner" Mar 09 21:24:22 I just don't see that I save 9MB of memory as the file /usr/share/doc/nslu2-utils/README.Debian states... sshd only uses 5 with 3 processes Mar 09 21:25:41 heh Mar 09 21:25:48 i never read that readme Mar 09 21:25:50 * HRH_H_Crab reads Mar 09 21:30:07 hmmm Mar 09 21:30:12 i like that fsck advice Mar 09 21:30:24 i think i'll take that, but personally im keeping openssh. Mar 09 21:30:26 :P Mar 09 21:32:48 seems its the default anyway Mar 09 21:32:52 or i did it before... Mar 09 21:36:03 Thanks all... Saga must continue tomorrow... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 09 23:10:55 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 10 21:48:19 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 11 09:00:15 2010 Mar 11 15:13:10 I just installed optware for DNS 323, then installed BitchX, where is the configuration file? Mar 11 15:37:21 ~/.bitchxrc or something i guess? Mar 11 15:37:33 been a looooooong time since i used bitchx. Mar 11 15:50:19 which IRC client do you recommend then? for DNS 323 Mar 11 15:55:04 irssi Mar 11 15:55:09 for anything Mar 11 15:58:24 i like xchat :) Mar 11 16:00:16 I'm more keen on pure textual client, since this is for my DNS 323 box, keep it light Mar 11 16:00:33 ok thanks, i shall try irssi Mar 11 17:04:30 hi all, could someone help me out with mt-daapd?? I've unslunged my NSLU2 and install mt-daapd, but I can't access the firefly web interface.. could someone help..? I've used a flash for disk1, with my hdd for disk2, the mp3s are in disk2 Mar 11 17:05:13 hi all, could someone help me out with mt-daapd?? I've unslunged my NSLU2 and install mt-daapd, but I can't access the firefly web interface.. could someone help..? I've used a flash for disk1, with my hdd for disk2, the mp3s are in disk2 Mar 11 17:14:37 i have zero experience with unslung im afraid Mar 11 17:14:51 but i think there are people around that will know if you are patient and lurk. Mar 11 17:17:35 cheers Crab - this issue is driving me up the wall, hopefully someone will take pity Mar 11 17:27:25 can anyone help me with changing the library directory on the mt-daapd config file using telnet?? How can i do this? Mar 11 17:30:40 msg_75: well... Mar 11 17:30:50 im guessing this is not an issue related to slugs, Mar 11 17:31:00 but im guessing that mt-daapd or whatever it is, Mar 11 17:31:20 has some sort of interface that is similar to telnet. Mar 11 17:31:32 you'll need to google for information about what port it listens on Mar 11 17:31:39 and then telnet to that port on the slug. Mar 11 17:31:50 you'll need a telnet client - windows has one built in. Mar 11 17:32:00 start with: Mar 11 17:32:11 "telnet ip.address.of.slug" Mar 11 17:32:28 and see if you get some prompt that looks like it might be related to mt-daapd Mar 11 17:46:17 yep..found it.. but it is pointing to the wrong directory... i don't know the command to change the directory to the one i want.. Mar 11 17:46:53 well, again, i doubt it is a slug related issue really Mar 11 17:47:18 but you probably need to either edit some conf file or read up how to use the telnet client. Mar 11 17:47:59 thanks Crab..trying to find something off google. Mar 11 17:48:10 try "help" too Mar 11 17:48:15 in the telnet client Mar 11 17:48:20 if there is an opportunity to do so. Mar 11 20:23:01 hi Mar 11 20:23:13 is it possible to use the nslu2 with nfs? Mar 11 20:24:31 numen: it should work fine as a client / server Mar 11 20:24:44 assuming that the firmware supports nfs (which i presume most of them do) Mar 11 20:25:09 i need it as a server for backup my mailserver automatic Mar 11 20:25:16 should i use it with debian? or standart? Mar 11 20:25:38 well i think debian should work fine for that purpose. Mar 11 20:26:06 or is debian too large for the nslu, so that i dont have a lot of power? Mar 11 20:26:13 how much of main memory does it have? Mar 11 20:26:25 its got 32MB of ram Mar 11 20:26:32 you cant get debian on the flash Mar 11 20:26:38 so you'll need external storage Mar 11 20:26:39 i know Mar 11 20:26:48 how big does it have to be? Mar 11 20:27:00 well, i would say 4GB at a miniumum Mar 11 20:27:03 a 256mb stick enough? Mar 11 20:27:06 you can get away with less Mar 11 20:27:09 i would say no. Mar 11 20:27:35 ok Mar 11 20:27:36 where are you going to put your mailserver backups? Mar 11 20:27:40 and does it work with externel usb hub? Mar 11 20:27:46 it should work Mar 11 20:27:52 possibly not for the "boot" media Mar 11 20:28:01 but certainly for other media it should work. Mar 11 20:28:31 on my slugs i am using a 500GB external seagate hard drive Mar 11 20:28:42 but ive used a 4GB flash memory stick Mar 11 20:28:53 its all pretty much the same from debians perspective. Mar 11 20:29:02 just choose the storage that you want! ;) Mar 11 20:32:56 HRH_H_Crab i want to mount the slug on my mailserver over nfs and do the backups with rsync Mar 11 20:34:08 numen: should be easy enough Mar 11 20:34:51 i presumed since you were talking about using crazy small usb devices for the "boot volume" on the slug, Mar 11 20:35:09 you would be using a larger storage volume on the other usb port, or perhaps a hub? Mar 11 20:35:18 HRH_H_Crab only cause i have here an 256mb stick, i dont need^^ Mar 11 20:35:22 a hub Mar 11 20:35:31 why not just use that one volume for the os? Mar 11 20:35:41 (and for storage) Mar 11 20:35:42 for adding 3x1tb disk in raid5 Mar 11 20:36:07 while you can prob. do that, Mar 11 20:36:11 it might not work so well. Mar 11 20:36:31 why not? Mar 11 20:36:38 not as a bootmedium i think Mar 11 20:36:43 i honestly don't know Mar 11 20:36:49 cause debian does not boot with sw raid5 Mar 11 20:36:55 i just have a feeling it could be a bit dicey Mar 11 20:37:03 raid on usb attached storage... Mar 11 20:37:04 i think i will use an 16gb stick as a boot medium Mar 11 20:37:10 its not unheard of... Mar 11 20:37:15 HRH_H_Crab why not? Mar 11 20:37:21 that would be nicer. Mar 11 20:37:33 what does unheard mean? Mar 11 20:37:43 sry for bad english^^ Mar 11 20:37:47 i speak german... Mar 11 20:37:51 i just mean that although i have my doubts about using raid on usb attached storage, Mar 11 20:37:59 i know that some people have tried it. Mar 11 20:38:13 i think you should install it and test it and let me know how it goes! ;) Mar 11 20:38:29 i expect it will work Mar 11 20:38:45 on an normal pc hardware it works, i have running Mar 11 20:38:55 cause you see the disks as sdx and thats same such as sata drives Mar 11 20:39:00 but i kind of think you might get some slightly laggy perfomance Mar 11 20:39:12 numen: you've tried with usb on your pc? Mar 11 20:39:55 i will try on weekend Mar 11 20:40:04 girlfriend works on friday and saturday evening Mar 11 20:40:17 anyway, another guy in the channel just did a debian install with a 1GB usb drive Mar 11 20:40:27 i think he had ~200MB or so free Mar 11 20:40:30 by the end of the install Mar 11 20:40:55 HRH_H_Crab yes, i use on an normal intel atom board Mar 11 20:41:16 well if it works fine with that, Mar 11 20:41:24 i don't think the slug will have problems. Mar 11 20:41:35 yes on desktop it works fine... Mar 11 20:41:41 Intel atom has a lot more power than the nslu2 Mar 11 20:42:09 i know Mar 11 20:42:19 i think that the slugs cpu should cope with the number crunching part of software raid Mar 11 20:42:32 the low memory for caching operations, Mar 11 20:42:44 and the general performance of the usb bus would concern me more,. Mar 11 20:42:47 so go out of train Mar 11 20:42:50 till later Mar 11 20:42:51 but im no expert in this sort of thing Mar 11 20:43:01 Heh Mar 11 20:43:02 bb Mar 11 20:43:08 Certainly sound like quite probably issues Mar 11 20:43:19 my gut feeling is it will work Mar 11 20:43:29 but it will suffer occasional lockups for a while Mar 11 20:43:44 and generally won't be that smooth Mar 11 20:44:33 i have to admit to feeling pretty guilty that i havent tried it myself though, Mar 11 20:44:42 so i could speak with a lot more authority on the subject! Mar 11 20:44:43 :P Mar 11 20:45:13 i wonder how a slug would perform, Mar 11 20:45:20 with a hub Mar 11 20:45:33 and two usb -> ethernet adaptors plugged into it. Mar 11 21:07:28 re with slug^^ Mar 11 21:08:05 this part is quite small... Mar 11 21:14:20 is it possible to upgrade the ram? Mar 11 21:15:35 not that im aware of Mar 11 21:15:54 solering is no problem for me Mar 11 21:16:11 if it is possible, Mar 11 21:16:25 someone will have documented it at www.nslu2-linux.org Mar 11 21:18:11 i think i will try Mar 11 21:23:01 to find something is not very easy^^ Mar 11 21:49:44 re Mar 11 21:49:53 so ive opend the slug Mar 11 21:51:18 ram upgrade is nicknamed "fat slug" Mar 11 21:51:20 or fatslug Mar 11 21:51:22 * ShadowJK forgets Mar 11 21:53:27 ive seen Mar 11 21:53:36 but seems to be easy Mar 11 22:15:46 first i will upgrade cpu speed, after the ram size **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 12 02:59:57 2010