**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 13 02:59:56 2010
Jun 13 12:23:29 <Yrouel> hi
Jun 13 12:29:43 <Yrouel> the wiki pages about upslug2 can be updated
Jun 13 12:29:53 <Yrouel> for the macos x part
Jun 13 12:30:03 <Yrouel> because finally upslug2 is available as macport
Jun 13 12:30:17 <Yrouel> so the user can obtain it simply doing sudo port install upslug2
Jun 13 12:30:41 <Yrouel> and a variant to support NSLU2 with 16MByte of flash is included
Jun 13 12:35:15 <Yrouel> what's the password for the page UpSlug2onOSX ?
Jun 13 12:35:24 <Yrouel> so I can change by myself
Jun 13 13:14:18 <Yrouel> ok done
Jun 13 14:40:58 <MiKa_> i have a old nslu2 what is smart to run on it this time ? i use now unslung 6.8 but updating is not working
Jun 13 14:41:19 <MiKa_> is it smart to switch to debian or something else ?
Jun 13 14:42:22 <Yrouel> MiKa_ I can recomment you to try openwrt first
Jun 13 14:42:28 <Yrouel> recommend*
Jun 13 14:42:47 <Yrouel> latest version is much easier to use than before
Jun 13 14:42:54 <Yrouel> thanks to new interface LuCI
Jun 13 14:55:49 <MiKa_> openwrt ok.. lets give it a try .. i only whil use samba , screen , bitlebee and irssi is that working ?
Jun 13 14:56:19 <MiKa_> and ssh ofcorse Yrouel 
Jun 13 14:57:17 <MiKa_> and i forget rsync
Jun 13 14:57:33 <Yrouel> yep
Jun 13 14:57:44 <MiKa_> Do you know if that is working with openwrt
Jun 13 14:58:13 <MiKa_> ok now look for info how to install but that must be easy
Jun 13 14:58:34 <Yrouel> samba works and is configurable via luci
Jun 13 14:58:53 <MiKa_> what is luci ?
Jun 13 14:59:00 <Yrouel> the web interface
Jun 13 14:59:35 <MiKa_> ok looks great but is it also config by command line ?
Jun 13 15:00:07 <Yrouel> sure
Jun 13 15:00:17 <Yrouel> MiKa_ here a list of available packages
Jun 13 15:00:18 <Yrouel> http://downloads.openwrt.org/backfire/10.03/ixp4xx/packages/
Jun 13 15:00:28 <Yrouel> bitlbee is available
Jun 13 15:00:54 <Yrouel> packages are maintaned using opkg utility
Jun 13 15:02:14 <Yrouel> just busybox is a bit broken in this versione (ping doesn't work) and it's fixed in the lastest version available here
Jun 13 15:02:36 <Yrouel> http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ixp4xx/packages/
Jun 13 15:03:13 <Yrouel> so is a good idea to upgrade it
Jun 13 15:04:02 <Yrouel> MiKa_ openwrt default installation is very minimal so for example usb modules needs to be installed
Jun 13 15:04:42 <Yrouel> but you can even cook you own image compiling openwrt with everything you need
Jun 13 15:05:57 <MiKa_> let me see.. first i have to eat now and then i will see how it works. Do you know a good howto about nslu2 and openwrt ?
Jun 13 15:06:28 <Yrouel> uhm the openwrt wiki and nslu2-linux wiki are a good start
Jun 13 15:06:35 <Yrouel> but is very easy to use
Jun 13 15:07:22 <Yrouel> to flash it just use openwrt-nslu2-squashfs.bin with upslug2 -i
Jun 13 15:08:36 <MiKa_> ok . are you here in 1 hour ? because i have to eat.. kids are waiting
Jun 13 15:08:57 <Yrouel> yep I should be
Jun 13 16:01:55 <MiKa_> so i`m back.. time for reading now
Jun 13 16:06:04 <MiKa_> Yrouel: bitlebee is a old version is there someone who make a updTE OR IS IT WAIT AND HOPE
Jun 13 16:06:17 <MiKa_> Sorry caps was on 
Jun 13 16:10:52 <Yrouel> MiKa_ dunno
Jun 13 16:11:00 <Yrouel> try to ask on the openwrt channel
Jun 13 16:11:44 <MiKa_> first i am reading http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenWrt/KnownProblems
Jun 13 16:12:07 <MiKa_> but it seems it is the best to use the latest firmware
Jun 13 16:12:09 <Yrouel> it's old
Jun 13 16:12:41 <Yrouel> MiKa_ consider even using a snapshot of openwrt instead of stable
Jun 13 16:13:09 <Yrouel> in this case I I remember correctly luci isn't installed by default
Jun 13 16:13:37 <MiKa_> sorry but who is luci ?
Jun 13 16:13:47 <Yrouel> the web interface
Jun 13 16:15:23 <MiKa_> ok but it is easy to do if i hear you. i use now unslung 6.8 and it is easy so i hope openwrt wil be the same only beter suport with more updates
Jun 13 16:15:44 <MiKa_> unslung is now running 4 or 5 years on my slug
Jun 13 16:16:09 <MiKa_> last install is from 3 years ago
Jun 13 16:16:41 <Yrouel> yep is easy
Jun 13 16:17:02 <MiKa_> But i see something intresting. it dont use a hard disk so i dont have to format my unslung hard disk or am i wrong
Jun 13 16:17:59 <Yrouel> openwrt fits abundantly in the eprom
Jun 13 16:18:07 <Yrouel> in the flash
Jun 13 16:19:17 <Yrouel> then you can configure it to install packages in an external volume if you want
Jun 13 16:19:25 <Yrouel> I added an internal usb sd card reader
Jun 13 16:19:37 <Yrouel> using one of the 3 extra usb ports
Jun 13 16:19:44 <MiKa_> so when i not format my harddisk what is now for unslung . i can moount it after the instalation and mv the maps to the root
Jun 13 16:19:57 <Yrouel> sure
Jun 13 16:21:02 <MiKa_> ok but for install packages he use the harddisk . must it be formated for that ? or is it ok when there are a few folders with some data ?
Jun 13 16:21:26 <Yrouel> it's ok
Jun 13 16:21:36 <MiKa_> because i have 150 gig data at my disk . if i must format i have to backup it first
Jun 13 16:21:38 <Yrouel> just adjust the path and the conf
Jun 13 16:21:57 <Yrouel> however some packages
Jun 13 16:21:58 <MiKa_> ok looks great
Jun 13 16:22:04 <Yrouel> or more precisely
Jun 13 16:22:09 <Yrouel> parts of some packages
Jun 13 16:22:19 <Yrouel> needs to be installed in the flash
Jun 13 16:22:26 <Yrouel> for examle init scripts
Jun 13 16:22:31 <Yrouel> example*
Jun 13 16:23:08 <MiKa_> ok i understand. so now looks what version i go install and go try to find out how it work :)
Jun 13 16:23:22 <Yrouel> try a snapshot first
Jun 13 16:23:33 <Yrouel> no wait
Jun 13 16:23:40 <Yrouel> the stable first
Jun 13 16:23:50 <Yrouel> so you can configure easily the network interface(s)
Jun 13 16:24:05 <Yrouel> backfire is the latest
Jun 13 16:26:22 <MiKa_> so this is not howto ?: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenWrt/BuildInstructions
Jun 13 16:27:05 <Yrouel> no
Jun 13 16:27:31 <Yrouel> it's old and it's to compile openwrt
Jun 13 16:27:35 <Yrouel> for a precompiled image
Jun 13 16:27:42 <Yrouel> just use upslug2
Jun 13 16:27:53 <Yrouel> refer to the wiki on how to put the slug in upgrade mode
Jun 13 16:32:29 <MiKa_> i see i must read at openwrt.org
Jun 13 16:34:51 <Yrouel> btw it's simply pushing reset button when powering the slug
Jun 13 16:35:00 <Yrouel> until the status/ready led become red
Jun 13 16:35:16 <Yrouel> then release quickly the power button
Jun 13 16:36:19 <Yrouel> and launch usplug2 -i openwrt-nslu2-squashfs.bin
Jun 13 16:36:26 <MiKa_> yes i know i did before with unsung but i see 3 bin files
Jun 13 16:36:47 <Yrouel> you need only openwrt-nslu2-squashfs.bin
Jun 13 16:36:50 <MiKa_> i see also a -16mb and zImage
Jun 13 16:37:00 <MiKa_> ok i start download it
Jun 13 16:37:01 <Yrouel> -16MB if you modded your slug
Jun 13 16:37:11 <Yrouel> replacing the stock flash chip
Jun 13 16:37:44 <MiKa_> nope i did not.. only the speed mod to overclock it to 266mhz
Jun 13 16:37:54 <Yrouel> MiKa_ btw keep ready to hand a serial console
Jun 13 16:38:08 <Yrouel> because if you do something wrong in the network config
Jun 13 16:38:18 <Yrouel> you don't stay locked out
Jun 13 16:38:47 <Yrouel> oh mine too was underclocked
Jun 13 16:39:15 <MiKa_> What about a serial console ..
Jun 13 16:39:41 <Yrouel> MiKa_ as I said is really useful to recover from a misconfiguration
Jun 13 16:40:41 <MiKa_> how do i make that ?
Jun 13 16:41:23 <Yrouel> the easiest is to use an old mobile phone cable
Jun 13 16:41:33 <Yrouel> like ca-42 or dku-5 from nokia
Jun 13 16:42:04 <Yrouel> MiKa_ but a male hader needs to be soldered in the slug board
Jun 13 16:42:22 <Yrouel> so if you don't have such skills skipt that
Jun 13 16:42:43 <Yrouel> and just check every setting before applying it
Jun 13 16:43:03 <Yrouel> I don't know what the reset button really do under openwrt
Jun 13 16:44:11 <MiKa_> ok but when ssh is installed it must be easy to loggin or not ?
Jun 13 16:44:49 <Yrouel> yep
Jun 13 16:44:50 <MiKa_> but as test i use my old nslu2 because i dont need a hard disk at start:)
Jun 13 16:44:53 <Yrouel> ssh is built in
Jun 13 16:44:57 <Yrouel> on openwrt
Jun 13 16:45:11 <Yrouel> but first you need to login with telnet
Jun 13 16:45:20 <Yrouel> then set your password 
Jun 13 16:45:22 <Yrouel> for root
Jun 13 16:45:26 <Yrouel> then you can use ssh
Jun 13 16:45:48 <Yrouel> this isn't true for the web interface in which you set the password at the first login
Jun 13 16:46:19 <MiKa_> upslug2 is at my mint instalation so i need now to swith irc to this pc.. becasue irssi is running at my slug and i need that 
Jun 13 16:46:31 <Yrouel> ok
Jun 13 16:51:19 <MiKa__> so that is done now shutdown my slug
Jun 13 16:55:54 <MiKa_> so it is in upgrade mode the red light is flashing
Jun 13 16:56:54 <MiKa_> Yrouel: you told me to do : upslug2 -i filename
Jun 13 16:57:00 <MiKa_> or now
Jun 13 16:57:02 <MiKa_> not
Jun 13 17:00:34 <Yrouel> yep
Jun 13 17:01:00 <Yrouel> from root
Jun 13 17:01:08 <Yrouel> if I remember correctly
Jun 13 17:02:06 <MiKa_> because i dont can find a howto about install on a nslu2
Jun 13 17:02:54 <Yrouel> I know when I searched I found only confusing things
Jun 13 17:03:06 <Yrouel> just do sudo upslug2 -i openwrt-nslu2-squashfs.bin
Jun 13 17:03:09 <Yrouel> than wait
Jun 13 17:03:12 <MiKa_> it is flashing now
Jun 13 17:03:32 <Yrouel> ok
Jun 13 17:04:37 <Yrouel> MiKa_ on fist boot wait few minutes as it will create the jffs overlay
Jun 13 17:04:46 <Yrouel> s/fist/first
Jun 13 17:06:27 <MiKa_> ok it is booting i think only ethernet is on on the slug
Jun 13 17:06:53 <MiKa_> it take 5 till 10 minutes i read
Jun 13 17:07:00 <Yrouel> yep the ready/status led must be configured
Jun 13 17:07:11 <Yrouel> if you want it to be on at the end of the boot
Jun 13 17:07:17 <Yrouel> can be done via web interface
Jun 13 17:08:11 <MiKa_> the ip is 192.168.1.1 ?
Jun 13 17:08:18 <MiKa_> or 1.70 ?
Jun 13 17:08:25 <Yrouel> mh
Jun 13 17:08:31 <Yrouel> it should be 1.1
Jun 13 17:08:41 <Yrouel> but try .1.77 too
Jun 13 17:08:56 <Yrouel> and the one you had with other firmware
Jun 13 17:12:50 <MiKa_> it works so now i put it in my network to setup the rest
Jun 13 17:17:31 <MiKa_> the web interface looks great
Jun 13 17:19:11 <Yrouel> yep openwrt did a great job
Jun 13 17:19:16 <Yrouel> openwrt team*
Jun 13 17:19:30 <MiKa_> but no time zone europe ?
Jun 13 17:20:05 <Yrouel> is possible to set an european country
Jun 13 17:20:14 <Yrouel> I don't remember where precisely
Jun 13 17:21:26 <Yrouel> sorry I don0t have my slug here
Jun 13 17:22:09 <MiKa_> ok i will find out.
Jun 13 17:22:45 <MiKa_> and now loggin by ssh and configure the usb harddisk ?
Jun 13 17:24:11 <MiKa_> sorry i see the addmin web :)
Jun 13 17:25:35 <Yrouel> MiKa_ in order to use ssh first login with telnet
Jun 13 17:25:44 <Yrouel> then set a password with passwd
Jun 13 17:25:54 <Yrouel> then chack if telnet works
Jun 13 17:26:13 <Yrouel> check if ssh works sorry
Jun 13 17:26:17 <Yrouel> if yes you can disable telnet
Jun 13 17:26:30 <Yrouel> for usb you have to install some package
Jun 13 17:27:39 <Yrouel> first configure the network when done do an opkg update
Jun 13 17:27:59 <MiKa_> ssh is working to
Jun 13 17:28:03 <Yrouel> then opkk install usb-storage should bring every dependency
Jun 13 17:28:11 <Yrouel> opkg*
Jun 13 17:28:32 <Yrouel> for usb2 the module is something like usb-ehci
Jun 13 17:28:48 <Yrouel> do an opkg list | grep usb
Jun 13 17:29:00 <Yrouel> and tell me what packages you see please
Jun 13 17:29:17 <MiKa_> pls wait update now
Jun 13 17:32:00 <MiKa_> Yrouel: see http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=anym1
Jun 13 17:32:54 <MiKa_> must i do  : opkg install usb-storage
Jun 13 17:33:29 <Yrouel> MiKa_ not really
Jun 13 17:33:37 <Yrouel> opkg install kmod-usb-storage kmod-usb2
Jun 13 17:35:58 <MiKa_> it is downl and install
Jun 13 17:36:02 <MiKa_> done
Jun 13 17:37:48 <MiKa_> reboot it now
Jun 13 17:39:11 <MiKa_> and up again.. it is realy fast
Jun 13 17:39:38 <Yrouel> yep
Jun 13 17:39:46 <Yrouel> it's a very minimal firmware
Jun 13 17:40:02 <Yrouel> MiKa_ if you don't plan to install some wifi hardware
Jun 13 17:40:04 <Yrouel> you can remove
Jun 13 17:40:10 <Yrouel> some installed package
Jun 13 17:40:21 <Yrouel> like wpad and wireless-tools
Jun 13 17:42:28 <MiKa_> wpad is not installed the rest is removed
Jun 13 17:43:55 <MiKa_> is opkg update en upgrade also working ?
Jun 13 17:45:52 <MiKa_> hmm it is not
Jun 13 17:46:33 <MiKa_> it ask for a package
Jun 13 17:50:46 <MiKa_> hmm but still also no harddisk
Jun 13 17:50:50 <MiKa_> mounted
Jun 13 17:52:51 <Yrouel> MiKa_ install fstab too
Jun 13 17:54:46 <MiKa_> opkg list |grep fstab give nothing
Jun 13 17:59:42 <MiKa_> found this http://wiki.openwrt.org/oldwiki/usbstoragehowto
Jun 13 18:08:45 <MiKa_> Yrouel: i dont understand that
Jun 13 18:09:22 <MiKa_> must i add the line in /etc/modeles/60-usb...
Jun 13 18:14:39 <Yrouel> no
Jun 13 18:14:41 <Yrouel> you don't
Jun 13 18:15:15 <Yrouel> you need block-mount and block-hotplug
Jun 13 18:15:24 <Yrouel> at least I installed it
Jun 13 18:16:31 <MiKa_> let me see because dmesg dont see my disk
Jun 13 18:16:48 <Yrouel> you see usb-storage being loaded?
Jun 13 18:17:08 <MiKa_> yes
Jun 13 18:18:46 <MiKa_> Wait 
Jun 13 18:19:02 <MiKa_> it is now in dmesg after reboot i think . let me see
Jun 13 18:19:48 <MiKa_> Yes it is in the dmesg as sda
Jun 13 18:20:39 <Yrouel> ok so you need to configure /etc/confg/fstab
Jun 13 18:20:48 <MiKa_> but how to auto mount ?
Jun 13 18:20:52 <Yrouel> or install block-mount (or block-automount don't remember
Jun 13 18:20:57 <Yrouel> and block-hotplug
Jun 13 18:21:12 <Yrouel> to combine hotplug mount and usb
Jun 13 18:21:28 <Yrouel> so when you'll attach a disk it will be automatically mounted
Jun 13 18:21:30 <Yrouel> under /mnt
Jun 13 18:21:43 <Yrouel> the mount point will have same name of device
Jun 13 18:21:49 <Yrouel> so for exmple /mnt/sda1
Jun 13 18:23:29 <MiKa_> ok lets try also :)
Jun 13 18:23:42 <MiKa_> where are you from anyway ?
Jun 13 18:24:01 <Yrouel> italy
Jun 13 18:26:10 <MiKa_> ok i am from holland
Jun 13 18:30:48 <Yrouel> ok I have to go bye
Jun 13 18:30:58 <Yrouel> MiKa_ you have same hd stable connected
Jun 13 18:31:13 <Yrouel> maybe is a good Idea to set up those device directly in the fstab
Jun 13 18:31:22 <MiKa_> nope still no hd . in dmesg it is gone now
Jun 13 18:31:34 <Yrouel> using label instead of dev
Jun 13 18:31:35 <MiKa_> i go try
Jun 13 18:31:46 <Yrouel> mount say nothing?
Jun 13 18:32:00 <MiKa_> nope
Jun 13 18:32:16 <Yrouel> oh uhm
Jun 13 18:32:20 <MiKa_> dmesg also not only load massstore
Jun 13 18:32:31 <Yrouel> try a reboot
Jun 13 18:32:38 <Yrouel> I really have ot go
Jun 13 18:32:39 <Yrouel> bye
Jun 13 18:32:50 <MiKa_> it is ok thanks anyway
Jun 13 19:07:07 <clowner> is there a way to get ext4 support for the nslu2?
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