**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 25 23:59:57 2005 Feb 26 01:17:39 hmm - we may have a problem Feb 26 01:18:27 when I boot openslug with the usb BlueTooth dongle attached, it does not insmod the module automatically. Feb 26 01:19:27 if (after openslug is up and running) I unplug and then reinsert the dongle, then it is detected and the module is insmodded and everything is fine Feb 26 01:20:37 one key point is that the message from ohci_hcd comes before switchbox pivots to the real rootfs, so any hotplug stuff would not be available at that point. Feb 26 01:34:00 is there a way to force rescan? Feb 26 01:34:16 dunno - reading up on hotplug ... Feb 26 01:34:24 ie: is it possible to trigger it without a hotplug event... Feb 26 01:34:31 I hate windows. Feb 26 02:01:04 so I guess usb disks are ok cause we have all the bits compiled into the kernel already. Feb 26 02:01:22 can we test on something else? does a usb serial cable which requires a module also not get recognised? Feb 26 02:03:50 I du nno, do you want me to? Feb 26 02:04:16 I guess the whole usb-subsystem comes up before hotplug is available, so you'll need coldplug-functionality in hotplug-ng. But... iirc that is on the todo-list. Feb 26 02:04:21 I'll need to pull/build the latest; I'm not current on openslug firmware atm. Feb 26 02:05:04 so apart from having to replug the dongle, everything else now for BluetTooth is ready for openslug usage. The only thing I had do to from a virgin openslug system is to install a number of ipks, and modify /etc/ppp/options Feb 26 02:06:10 rwhitby-away: just manually load the modules at startup and don't rely on the hotplug-stuff! ;) Feb 26 02:09:43 * dyoung hides Feb 26 02:21:53 that's the last resort, yes Feb 26 02:25:45 is anyone working on resolve.conf and route default gw ? Feb 26 02:41:32 You know we should put sysconfsetup in /sbin/unconfigured.sh ... Feb 26 02:44:01 We can also put stuff in /etc/rc.boot/.... and /sbin/setup.sh ... Feb 26 02:44:33 (this is all from looking at /etc/init.d/rcS) Feb 26 03:18:42 dyoung: I'm adding gateway to sysconfsetup ... Feb 26 03:31:10 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2889 10openembedded/packages/openslug-init/openslug-init-0.10/sysconfsetup: Added gateway definition to OpenSlug sysconfsetup. Feb 26 03:31:59 now for dns server ... Feb 26 03:38:40 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2890 10openembedded/packages/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb: Set the openslug hostname Feb 26 03:58:32 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2891 10openembedded/packages/openslug-init/ (openslug-init-0.10/sysconfsetup openslug-init_0.10.bb): Added hostname and dns server support to openslug sysconfsetup Feb 26 03:59:04 dhcp should be a piece of cake now (I've left commented code in sysconfsetup for the heavy lifting) Feb 26 04:05:06 default hostname is now set to "openslug" instead of "nslu2", and is overriden by the name that you set in the Linksys web interface Feb 26 04:07:44 devslug login: root Feb 26 04:07:44 root@devslug:~# ping www.nslu2-linux.org Feb 26 04:07:44 PING www.nslu2-linux.org (66.159.209.60): 56 data bytes Feb 26 04:07:44 64 bytes from 66.159.209.60: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=252.0 ms Feb 26 04:07:54 That's immediately after first boot. Feb 26 04:12:50 now I just need to set ip_forward somewhere .... Feb 26 04:13:15 wow,youve been busy. Feb 26 04:13:57 Lotta stuff going into opensluginit Feb 26 04:20:37 ip_forward does the trick ... Feb 26 04:25:50 it's in /etc/sysctl.conf in Debian ... Feb 26 04:29:56 I cant build anything tonight. Rearranging disks... Feb 26 04:30:00 Totally out of space. Feb 26 04:30:18 use nudi ... Feb 26 04:31:16 thats true. Feb 26 04:31:24 I should remember about that.... Feb 26 04:38:00 ktune - I should remember about that! Feb 26 05:08:21 hey bob_tm_nl Feb 26 05:08:34 Hey rwhitby-away Feb 26 05:09:45 Open wirelessnetworks are really nice. Feb 26 05:10:32 cool. Seen any logs, or do you need a status update? Feb 26 05:11:00 Status update would be good. Feb 26 05:11:17 openslug is pretty much ready for beta release Feb 26 05:11:27 That I saw - great news! Feb 26 05:11:37 jp30 is doing a great job on Unslung packages Feb 26 05:11:56 Yes - he's also doing a good job on the list. Feb 26 05:12:04 I have a BlueSlug Feb 26 05:12:10 Que? Feb 26 05:12:36 I'm from Barcelona. What's a BlueSlug Feb 26 05:12:45 A slug providing an internet connection to client devices via bluetooth. The client in this case is a Treo 650 Feb 26 05:13:21 Ah - I believe I've seen rwhitby-trio or something. Feb 26 05:13:58 How's the alpha doing? Success-stories/disasters? Feb 26 05:14:24 That's usually via GPRS, but I bought a USB bluetooth dongle, and inside my house it goes via bluetooth (no GPRS charges) Feb 26 05:14:49 ByronT got OpenSlug up and going in about ten minutes, and is going to write the user doco for it. Feb 26 05:15:17 It is much cheeper that way. I don't have much BT equipment (my Palm is a 505, so no BT there) Feb 26 05:15:37 dyoung added mt-daapd to OE so it can be used with OpenSlug ... Feb 26 05:15:40 ~praise ByronT Feb 26 05:15:43 All hail ByronT! Feb 26 05:16:35 How's the Openslug/Unslung package compatibility? Feb 26 05:17:44 we're only migrating data. migration of apps involves adding the app to OE and not being constrained by Linksys compatibility. OE apps install in the usual places for Linux (i.e. not under /opt). Feb 26 05:18:57 I understand - just thought it would be good if we could do both at once. Feb 26 05:20:01 One thing: The IPKG number is currently both in the make file and the control file. Are both needed or could one be generated from the other Feb 26 05:20:22 jp30 is already pioneering the control file being built in the makefile Feb 26 05:20:37 Sounds good Feb 26 05:20:44 I expect he will update the template.mk for that soon - all of his packages do it Feb 26 05:22:02 And Unslung 4? Feb 26 05:22:34 switchbox work for openslug has been validated for unslung, so that's still in sync Feb 26 05:22:50 unslung 4.x is in alpha ... Feb 26 05:23:19 Yes - how's the feedback - most people getting it to run? Feb 26 05:23:34 of the dozen or so alpha testers? Feb 26 05:23:57 quite a few of them have been focused on openslug for the last week in an effort to get that beta out Feb 26 05:24:31 we need some people who want the external disk rootfs back to be testing unslung 4.x Feb 26 05:26:25 What's the intended audience for that feature? Feb 26 05:27:35 People who are afraid of internal flash writes .... or an easy recovery (unplug the disk and start again). Feb 26 05:27:52 .. or want an easy recovery .. Feb 26 05:29:49 Yes, ok. It will still maintain the normal Unslung disk layout ? Feb 26 05:30:24 yes - just like Unslung 2.x Feb 26 05:31:23 It is a testing problem with features not appealing to power users. Feb 26 05:31:39 yep Feb 26 05:32:00 Have we any idea of the performance penalty? Feb 26 05:32:08 nfsroot is the feature which would be appealing to power users Feb 26 05:41:05 <[g2]> rwhitby, still going .... you're on a roll man! Feb 26 05:41:57 network connectivity should be up in the latest openslug Feb 26 05:42:12 dhcp should be easy to add now Feb 26 05:42:44 <[g2]> You mean the gateway and namesever changes Feb 26 05:42:50 yeah Feb 26 05:42:55 trying to work out how to delay hotplug until after we've loaded the real rootfs Feb 26 05:42:55 <[g2]> Great! Feb 26 05:43:45 cause at the moment, any hardware which is plugged in, but whose module is not compiled into the kernel, will not have it's module loaded automatically at boot Feb 26 05:44:06 ... plugged in at boot time that is .. Feb 26 05:45:14 <[g2]> BT ? Feb 26 05:45:22 ye[ Feb 26 05:45:25 yep Feb 26 05:45:32 <[g2]> that's because it's a net driver Feb 26 05:45:50 if you unplug and plug after openslug is booted, it works fine Feb 26 05:45:54 <[g2]> and hotplug doesn't have net implemented fully Feb 26 05:46:12 I believe it's becuase of switchbox Feb 26 05:46:52 the hotplug events are probably happening before we pivot, and hence /sbin/hotplug is not there ... Feb 26 05:46:53 <[g2]> that's an easy theory to test Feb 26 05:47:28 even a usb-serial cable would have the same problem I think Feb 26 05:47:32 <[g2]> change the kernel cmdline to root=/dev/mtdblock4 .... Feb 26 05:48:46 <[g2]> Do you want BT as your primary interface or a secondary one ? Feb 26 05:49:57 secondary - it's providing an access point for other devices Feb 26 05:50:48 <[g2]> you know we support the modprobe.conf now right ? Feb 26 05:50:51 I'm also wondering (without having enough knowledge to know for sure) whether hotplug-ng perhaps doesn't do the coldplug things that normal hotplug does. Feb 26 05:51:34 <[g2]> I think you can just add it to /etc/modprobe.conf and update-modules Feb 26 05:51:35 yeah, but I don't know how that helps me Feb 26 05:51:56 <[g2]> then it loads the BT modules Feb 26 05:52:07 <[g2]> and they'll kick everything Feb 26 05:53:58 <[g2]> All the BT stuff is kernel, but the bluez-utils isn't in by default correct ? Feb 26 05:54:03 yeah, but that requires user intervention to modify that file. this stuff should all work automatically from the ipkg install Feb 26 05:54:25 it's all modules, or stuff you put in your local.conf Feb 26 05:54:54 didn't want to bloat openslug for non-BT people Feb 26 05:55:37 <[g2]> I think BT will be quite popular Feb 26 05:56:39 so I'm reading about coldplugging at the moment Feb 26 05:57:22 <[g2]> the ipkg install can modify the modprobe.conf and run update-modules right ? Feb 26 05:57:53 yeah, but it shouldn't have to Feb 26 05:58:18 ok now I'm pissed. Feb 26 05:58:24 <[g2]> well hotplug-ng is what 10 days old now Feb 26 05:58:43 yeah, one wonders why we're using it :-) Feb 26 05:58:52 <[g2]> I think the benefits of saving 2 minutes on boot is a huge deal Feb 26 05:59:23 yeah, I guess I never experienced the slow hotplug ... Feb 26 05:59:35 <[g2]> 3 minute initial boot times Feb 26 05:59:37 <[g2]> time Feb 26 06:00:13 <[g2]> for kicks some time change hoptlug-ng to hotplug-linux in the openslug.conf and rebuild Feb 26 06:00:21 <[g2]> it's an easy change for users Feb 26 06:00:40 <[g2]> we've got the same issue with usb-eth adapters Feb 26 06:01:21 hotplug-linux no longer exists as a package as far as I can see (unless it's hiding in another directory) Feb 26 06:01:24 BTW, should /etc/interfaces be /tmp/interfaces in sysconfsetup ? Feb 26 06:01:55 <[g2]> /etc/network/interfaces ? Feb 26 06:02:13 no, the /etc/interfaces file that you use for doing the sed's on Feb 26 06:02:27 it should probably be in /tmp Feb 26 06:02:47 <[g2]> since it's a 1-shot I put it in /etc Feb 26 06:03:17 <[g2]> it only happens on first-boot or when the user deletes that file Feb 26 06:03:27 but it's a tmp file, right? it shouldn't persist in /etc after it has been copied to /etc/network/interfaces Feb 26 06:04:13 <[g2]> it's a backup of the /etc/network/interfaces file for possible recovery Feb 26 06:04:22 <[g2]> you see that mv that's commented out ? Feb 26 06:04:47 recovery from what? Feb 26 06:04:54 <[g2]> I'd comment out the cp an uncomment the mv Feb 26 06:05:20 but you still should do the intermediate stuff in a /tmp/... file, not a /etc/... file. Feb 26 06:05:51 since /etc/interfaces is not a real fle Feb 26 06:06:08 file Feb 26 06:06:09 <[g2]> it is in OpenSlug Feb 26 06:06:15 <[g2]> it's our distro Feb 26 06:06:31 but you just said you were going to mv it to /etc/network/interfaces. Feb 26 06:07:06 (instead of copying it, and leaving an /etc/interfaces file that nothing uses) Feb 26 06:07:07 <[g2]> I was on the fence about moving it so I've got a cp in there right now Feb 26 06:07:34 why would you want to keep it? Feb 26 06:08:00 <[g2]> So I could ask a beta user diff /etc/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces Feb 26 06:08:21 why? they'd be the same Feb 26 06:08:25 <[g2]> Ah... somethings changed from when it was first working Feb 26 06:10:05 I can understand asking a beta user to diff /etc/network/interfaces.old and /etc/network/interfaces ... Feb 26 06:10:51 but I don't see the point in keeping /etc/interfaces, or for not using /tmp/interfaces for the temporary working file. Feb 26 06:11:20 (as I've done later in that file for hostname and resolv.conf) Feb 26 06:11:31 <[g2]> I meant it to be a persistent file Feb 26 06:11:49 why? Feb 26 06:12:55 <[g2]> Initially for debugging and checking whether any initscripts modified the file during network startup, and as a backup of the file for users in beta Feb 26 06:13:30 ok, I can understand the initial debugging, but I don't understand the backup Feb 26 06:13:37 <[g2]> I know the networking scripts don't modify that Feb 26 06:14:33 if a user wants to recreate the /etc/network/interfaces file, they can just rm /etc/linksysconf and re-run the sysconfsetup script ... Feb 26 06:15:48 <[g2]> right and if the sysconf partition got trashed in the meantime it'd be different than the original Feb 26 06:16:32 right, but what can happen to the original? (other than users manually modifying it)? Feb 26 06:16:57 (the original being the one that sysconfsetup created, not the original original one) Feb 26 06:17:11 we don't backup other files that the user can modify .... Feb 26 06:17:23 that's the user's responsibility Feb 26 06:17:49 (I can understand the initial debugging, but am questioning the need for it now) Feb 26 06:18:59 The reason why it bugs me is I can see people going and editing that file, and then asking questions like "I edited /etc/interfaces, and now I can't access my openslug slug on the new network address that I gave it" cause they are editing the wrong file. Feb 26 06:19:33 We don't need that potential source of confusion ... Feb 26 06:20:34 I could live with /etc/original-linksys-network-settings, but not /etc/interfaces .... Feb 26 06:21:12 <[g2]> there are two choices: Feb 26 06:21:56 <[g2]> 1/ change the /etc/interfaces name to a somewhat better name like /etc/original-network-settings Feb 26 06:22:20 <[g2]> 2/ remove the cp and uncomment the mv Feb 26 06:22:53 for #2, I would strongly suggest that the intermediate file be put in /tmp Feb 26 06:23:44 I can live with either (with the additon on #2), but don't see the necessity of #1. Feb 26 06:25:09 <[g2]> I don't expect you to agree with everything Feb 26 06:25:36 agreed :-) Feb 26 06:25:38 <[g2]> as for #1 it's a naming choice which I agree could cause some confusion Feb 26 06:26:32 what's the rationale for #1 (now that the initial debug is over) ? Feb 26 06:27:35 <[g2]> For the last time ... It's the original file created distinct from the actual file being used Feb 26 06:27:57 <[g2]> which differs from the .old file with is an original that OE created Feb 26 06:28:39 ok, shall we go with #1 then? Feb 26 06:29:35 <[g2]> I'm fine with original-network-settings Feb 26 06:29:46 that sounds good to me too Feb 26 06:30:15 and keeps linksys out of the name ;-) Feb 26 06:30:25 <[g2]> exactly Feb 26 06:31:52 <[g2]> speaking of update or you going to update the Beta Release wiki with the status of the networking additions (resolv.conf ...) Feb 26 06:32:49 done Feb 26 06:33:16 oops - dhcp support is not there yet Feb 26 06:33:57 fixed Feb 26 06:34:10 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2892 10openembedded/packages/openslug-init/openslug-init-0.10/sysconfsetup: Changed the name of the original network settings file in OpenSlug Feb 26 06:34:26 <[g2]> and I *DO* fully agree with the /tmp policy in general Feb 26 06:34:32 anything else we should add to sysconfsetup before I bump the PR ? Feb 26 06:35:24 (I'm going to bump to 1.4-alpha too) Feb 26 06:35:34 <[g2]> Not right now on the sysconfsetup Feb 26 06:35:43 <[g2]> ok on the 1.4 Feb 26 06:35:53 anything else before a 1.4-alpha release? Feb 26 06:36:20 <[g2]> don't think so Feb 26 06:37:18 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2894 10openembedded/packages/openslug-init/openslug-init_0.10.bb: OpenSlug-1.4-alpha Feb 26 06:38:58 So based on the punchlist, we could go beta with 1.4 if two more alpha testers sign up ... ? (or maybe just one, cause we didn't reserve 13 this time) Feb 26 06:39:56 BTW, are you cool with the default hostname being "openslug" instead of "nslu2" (and being overridden with what was in SysConf) ? Feb 26 06:40:30 <[g2]> I'm fine with that Feb 26 06:40:55 we should really set DISTRO_NAME and DISTRO_VERSION somewhere too - so that "OpenSlug" gets into /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net ... Feb 26 06:40:58 I will be testing openslug as of this afternoon. Feb 26 06:41:12 ~praise billwernet2 Feb 26 06:41:14 All hail billwernet2! Feb 26 06:42:12 <[g2]> I think Beta continues to shape up very nicely Feb 26 06:42:26 truth be known I am already running it, but this afternoon I will be actually trying to do real things with it Feb 26 06:42:41 <[g2]> cool Feb 26 06:42:57 <[g2]> what are you planning on doing with it ? Feb 26 06:44:23 first two: bluetooth access point for my treo, svn repository Feb 26 06:44:45 billwernet2: have I got a deal for you .... Feb 26 06:44:56 oh? Feb 26 06:45:22 My devslug is a bluetooth access point for my Treo 650 right now Feb 26 06:45:22 rwhitby: what is that? Feb 26 06:45:27 excellent Feb 26 06:46:07 and OpenSlug 1.4 has everything in it that you need (assuming you're building it from source so you can get the extra modules and bluez-utils installed0 Feb 26 06:46:16 wonderful Feb 26 06:47:24 all you need to do is add two lines to your local.conf, build openslug, flash it, modify /etc/ppp/options, insmod your usb dongle module, and you're done. Feb 26 06:47:32 which dongle do you have? Feb 26 06:47:57 (hci_usb?) Feb 26 06:48:35 it is an old linksys usb 1.1 dongle Feb 26 06:48:46 USBBT100 ? Feb 26 06:49:17 I think that is right. It is in my other office right now so I can't check the number Feb 26 06:49:22 <[g2]> we should check out the /etc/modprobe.conf and update-modules Feb 26 06:49:27 little antenna? Feb 26 06:49:35 yes, little antenna Feb 26 06:49:45 that's the one I've got Feb 26 06:49:51 excellent Feb 26 06:50:08 reported widely to be the best by far for a treo Feb 26 06:50:15 interesting Feb 26 06:50:19 <[g2]> hmmm I'm surprised subversion isn't in OE Feb 26 06:50:24 some guy says he gets 1000 feet Feb 26 06:50:34 I have just had it sitting around for awhile and thought it might work for this purpose Feb 26 06:50:42 1000 feet, nice Feb 26 06:50:57 I would be happy with 200-300 Feb 26 06:51:12 my property is nowhere near that large, so I haven't tested that range :-) Feb 26 06:51:19 understand Feb 26 06:51:34 I have tested 20 metres Feb 26 06:52:12 (that was the boundary of my property at midnight) Feb 26 06:52:42 well, I will work on that this afternoon and report back; I will see what sort of distance I can get Feb 26 06:52:59 I'm writing the wiki page as we speak Feb 26 07:01:42 great, I will check it out when done Feb 26 07:02:27 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/BuildABlueSlug Feb 26 07:03:18 Feel free to edit that to make it more user-friendly, or to correct any incorrect or missing steps. Feb 26 07:04:37 looks good, I will follow that procedure and report back Feb 26 07:04:46 ok, night all Feb 26 07:05:59 I guess you should add a step somewhere there about plugging in a compatible bluetooth usb adapter :-) Feb 26 07:06:44 morning all Feb 26 07:07:18 * ByronT is back -( zzzZZZzzz )- gone 7 hr 47 min 59 s Feb 26 07:07:37 rwhitby-asleep: lol Feb 26 07:08:04 <[g2]> rwhitby-asleep, sweet dreams! Feb 26 07:08:07 <- finished reading log... Feb 26 07:08:10 ByronT: 1.4 has just been released Feb 26 07:08:24 I can add the 13 blank to the OSlug table Feb 26 07:08:57 I read that - with the network config... :) Feb 26 07:13:23 rwhitby-asleep- 1.4... dang it, I really need to get colinux with debian building on this laptop Feb 26 07:14:04 <[g2]> rwhitby-asleep, Ummm.... networking is broke for me with the last build Feb 26 07:14:44 what broke? Feb 26 07:15:03 <[g2]> ixp isn't up Feb 26 07:15:39 <[g2]> Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter. Feb 26 07:15:40 <[g2]> Configuring network interfaces... ifup: option with empty value " gateway" Feb 26 07:15:40 <[g2]> done. Feb 26 07:16:01 oh - you didn't have a gateway set in your sysconf? Feb 26 07:16:15 <[g2]> nope I'm point-to-point Feb 26 07:16:39 hmmm - didn't think of that. Feb 26 07:16:44 <[g2]> it's all on the same segment Feb 26 07:18:32 heh - no wonder you didn't have gateway in the first versions of sysconfsetup :-) Feb 26 07:19:03 any suggestions on the best way to test for that? Feb 26 07:20:28 <[g2]> I'd image we can check for the null gateway and not put the line in there Feb 26 07:20:34 <[g2]> imagine Feb 26 07:20:49 sorry about that - but at 1:50am here I can't think of an easy way to do that, so I'll have to leave it in your capable hands :-) Feb 26 07:21:14 or just delete those lines and I'll fix it tomorrow ... Feb 26 07:22:28 we should do the same for netmask too Feb 26 07:23:25 and dns_server1. hostname is ok Feb 26 07:24:07 I think we can assume that hw_addr and ip_addr will be required to flash openslug in the first place :-) Feb 26 07:24:41 catch you tomorrow ... Feb 26 07:24:50 (sorry to leave something broken) Feb 26 07:25:11 btw, what will be setting "DISK" LED in OpenSlug? Feb 26 07:56:16 what's up with those fosdem announcements? Feb 26 07:56:35 oh wait Feb 26 07:56:51 nm Feb 26 08:03:06 <[g2]> giel, are you playing with the LEDs at all Feb 26 08:03:43 <[g2]> ByronT, right now the DISK LEDs aren't getting set Feb 26 08:06:49 I can see that... :) FrankenSlug is happily humming next to me Feb 26 08:07:53 <[g2]> ByronT, just FYI I've added some stuff to the turn up page on the wiki capturing a bunch of this stuff Feb 26 08:14:19 <[g2]> billwernet2, did you have a gateway value in the setup ? Feb 26 09:40:42 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (make/php.mk sources/php/php.ini): php: fix bug 108; enable many more modules Feb 26 09:47:28 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote ghostscript, tcpdump; demote perl-spamassassin Feb 26 10:06:14 oooh... refurb nslu2 for $69.19 at newegg.com Feb 26 10:07:17 I need one! Feb 26 10:07:22 I'm out of slugs! Feb 26 10:07:32 limit 2 per customer Feb 26 10:07:39 http://www.newegg.com/app/SearchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=0 Feb 26 10:07:58 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=33-124-036R&depa=0 Feb 26 10:08:05 sorry that first link is wrong Feb 26 10:08:52 np Feb 26 10:08:55 ordering Feb 26 10:09:09 ka6sox-zzzz- zzzz... Feb 26 10:09:12 WAKE UP! Feb 26 10:10:46 coffee.....coffeee! Feb 26 10:12:16 been reading logs while the coffee has been brewing Feb 26 10:12:33 okay picked up a recon Feb 26 10:13:37 finshing up my 3rd or 4th cup of joe this morning Feb 26 10:13:52 starting number 1 Feb 26 10:15:02 ok.. ordering a refurb, another bytecc enclosure and a seagate 160GB drive... total < $200 Feb 26 10:15:28 $69.19? damn, i should buy a second, even though i rarely use my first Feb 26 10:15:31 :) Feb 26 10:15:36 ByronT, do you fish? Feb 26 10:15:50 kergoth, wait til my order goes through.. ;P Feb 26 10:16:16 ka6sox-zz, I do not.. used to, no time these days Feb 26 10:16:50 you are like a big bass who takes the lure all the way down his throat...hooked hard. Feb 26 10:17:12 just because I've got a slug farm? Feb 26 10:17:18 yes Feb 26 10:17:24 I'm hoping that they'll start reproducing Feb 26 10:17:25 I have 4 slugs now. Feb 26 10:17:37 3 here... 4th on the way Feb 26 10:18:11 but 1 is really a customer's Feb 26 10:18:34 so I will have 3... this 3rd one - maybe "Bride of Frankenslug"? Feb 26 10:19:11 ka6sox-zz, you have that page for gastronomic specs? Feb 26 10:19:57 okay refresh my weiry eyes...what gastronomic pages? Feb 26 10:20:09 url? Feb 26 10:20:20 I'll add the specs. Feb 26 10:20:40 I thought you guys were going to post specs for "official" cross-build machine Feb 26 10:21:09 is there a page already? Feb 26 10:21:11 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/CrossBuildMachine Feb 26 10:25:53 okay I've updated it...need more coffee before continuing Feb 26 10:26:21 I've switched to Mt. Dew already Feb 26 10:27:04 working on that stack? Feb 26 10:27:28 yeah, I was wanting the specs such that I can order... mthrbd, vid, case, etc.... Feb 26 10:27:41 "that stack"? Feb 26 10:27:45 let me send you a copy of the order. Feb 26 10:28:27 I've never received any of previous emails... but send to byron-port@toddcomp.com Feb 26 10:28:33 I thought you had a stack of Mt. Dew cases. Feb 26 10:28:55 that's only at the beginning of the week... by Saturday, down to last case Feb 26 10:30:37 d'oh! I'm going to have to get another switch for the slugs to connect to... Feb 26 10:34:15 ByronT, check email. Feb 26 10:34:24 it *should* be on the way. Feb 26 10:34:29 its HTML formate. Feb 26 10:37:26 ka6sox-away, I haven't gotten it, can you reply to that email I sent you a while back and add details? Feb 26 10:37:31 blowout...bath tim! Feb 26 10:37:54 have you got a gmail account? Feb 26 10:38:04 byrontodd@ Feb 26 10:38:42 that has always worked for me. Feb 26 10:39:02 Pull bk://nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.bkbits.net/unslung-4.x Feb 26 10:39:02 -> file://home/link/unslung-4/unslung-4.x Feb 26 10:39:02 Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal. Feb 26 10:39:02 nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.bkbits.net's password: Feb 26 10:39:22 Has my key been lost during the switchover or something? Feb 26 10:39:43 glc: I don't think we have changed that in a while. Feb 26 10:40:03 I have been down for a week due to DSL problems. Feb 26 10:40:12 ugh. Feb 26 10:40:32 rwhitby manages that so when he gets up and reads the logs it'll get looked at. Feb 26 10:40:37 (about 4hrs Feb 26 10:40:56 OK doing openslug compile now ayway. Feb 26 10:41:07 ByronT, got it yet? Feb 26 10:41:16 the DVD-RW is optional. Feb 26 10:41:23 got it Feb 26 10:42:06 samsung has a little cheaper hd now... Feb 26 10:44:33 thanks for the gmail.. maybe end of month a clone of gastro built here Feb 26 10:46:50 ByronT: you bought exactly what gastro is today. Feb 26 10:47:08 the bytecc case and all. Feb 26 10:47:28 well, -nomic clone then.... Feb 26 10:47:34 I meant build clone... Feb 26 10:47:40 yeah. Feb 26 10:59:29 whelp... newegg.com just ran out of the refurbs Feb 26 11:15:30 heya _chris_ Feb 26 11:15:35 how ya doing? Feb 26 11:16:09 <_chris_> hey ka6sox-away. good. you? Feb 26 11:17:58 pretty good... Feb 26 11:18:19 been buzy here with getting build machines setup and moving data around. Feb 26 11:18:39 <_chris_> what are the machines building? Feb 26 11:21:12 native compile machine and cross compile machine for Unslung/Unslung Packages/Openslug Feb 26 11:22:07 http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/gastronomic Feb 26 11:22:24 pictures Feb 26 11:23:27 <_chris_> hey a shuttle! Feb 26 11:23:27 <_chris_> cool Feb 26 11:23:51 yeah. Feb 26 11:23:54 <_chris_> that's all i buy :) Feb 26 11:24:01 <_chris_> great boxes Feb 26 11:24:03 small and a workhorse. Feb 26 11:24:17 <_chris_> and mobile too - i take one of mine to work everyday instead of a laptop Feb 26 11:25:22 in one of the cases? Feb 26 11:25:26 (tote bags) Feb 26 11:25:36 <_chris_> yup. $20 and it's great :) Feb 26 11:25:45 <_chris_> you can carry your scheduling book, ipod, etc Feb 26 11:26:27 cool. Feb 26 11:26:46 I'm looking at a A64 shuttle for a replacement of my main server Feb 26 11:26:58 <_chris_> that's what my desktop is (that i take to work) Feb 26 11:27:37 <_chris_> http://tinyurl.com/4rp3o Feb 26 11:27:49 waiting for the Nforce4 board to come out. Feb 26 11:28:04 going to lock it in C&Q and let it idle. Feb 26 11:28:14 <_chris_> gotcha. linux works with the sensors in the nforce3. gkrellm can hook up to them perfectly Feb 26 11:29:09 does it have a raid controller onboard? Feb 26 11:29:31 <_chris_> yes - raid1. from Silicon something or other (Sil) Feb 26 11:29:53 hmmm...which model of Shuttle? Feb 26 11:30:55 <_chris_> the one i linked above Feb 26 11:33:31 looking Feb 26 11:35:03 * dyoung mumbles obsecenities about jackhammers Feb 26 11:52:17 that looks good. Feb 26 11:52:26 <_chris_> ya it's a nice box. very happy with it so far Feb 26 11:55:22 _chris_, it looks good...I need an extra 3.5" bay...for the second HD> Feb 26 11:57:58 hmm, that shutttle does look nice. i need to upgrade Feb 26 11:58:08 my desktop is an old 1ghz athlon tbird Feb 26 11:58:09 heh Feb 26 11:58:13 * kergoth ponders Feb 26 12:27:45 * ka6sox-away wonders Feb 26 12:30:40 _chris_, have you tried C&Q on that box? or just full speed? Feb 26 12:32:56 hmm, $899 for a shuttle xpc, athlon64 3400, ati 9600xt, 512 ddr Feb 26 12:32:58 * kergoth is tempted Feb 26 12:54:54 I need a cool and quiet server. Feb 26 13:01:21 ka6sox-away, have you thought about using a slug running apache? Feb 26 13:01:23 ;) Feb 26 13:02:30 not fast enough Feb 26 13:02:46 (tongue firmly in cheek) Feb 26 13:03:14 he he Feb 26 13:05:22 bbl (going to test drive my bud's X5) Feb 26 13:05:39 * ByronT is away -( be back later )- at 03:05p -( P:On / L:On )- Feb 26 13:16:26 ERROR: Nothing provides e2fsprogs - while trying to bb openslug-image Feb 26 13:17:16 e2fsprogs is in oe. Feb 26 13:17:31 sounds like you 1) are using the symlink setup and are missing links, or 2) did a bk pull without doing bk -r co -q Feb 26 13:17:49 or the usual suspects, incorrect BBFILES, incorrect BBMASK, whatever Feb 26 13:18:29 Symlink exists, and I just did a fresh pull, and did th bk -r co -q Feb 26 13:18:42 you did a bk -r co -q? Feb 26 13:19:39 Nothing to pull. Feb 26 13:19:47 are you not listening? Feb 26 13:19:55 i dont remember telling you to run bk pull Feb 26 13:20:01 I said I did 3 lines up. Feb 26 13:20:13 well, you're doing something wrong. Feb 26 13:20:18 look in openembedded/packages/e2fsprogs/ Feb 26 13:20:25 confirm that the .bbs exist Feb 26 13:20:30 then confirm that your symlinks arent dead Feb 26 13:22:08 .bbs does not exist. Feb 26 13:23:10 eh Feb 26 13:23:14 the s is plural. Feb 26 13:23:28 .bb files. Feb 26 13:23:37 There are 5 of them. Feb 26 13:24:15 good. now check the other things i recommended. Feb 26 13:27:53 hi Feb 26 13:28:33 has someone already setup apache as https server? Feb 26 13:30:03 kergoth: It was a missing symlink. I had checked it but with all these build areas I have here I must have looked in the wrong one. Feb 26 13:30:05 Thanks. Feb 26 13:34:18 The symlink needs to be added to nslu2-linux.bkbits.net/nslu2-package-symlinks Feb 26 13:35:48 Build completed. Feb 26 13:39:29 glc, I've started a fresh pull/build now. When I hit that e2fsprogs bit I'll add it plus whatever else is missing. Feb 26 13:39:41 (fresh pull/build using the symlink package that is) Feb 26 13:53:21 Everything else built fine. I will flash shortly. Feb 26 13:55:37 glc: this is the beta release code that you are building? Feb 26 13:57:54 Just pulled. Feb 26 13:58:40 ok, forget my question. I've https configured and running fine. Feb 26 14:07:07 Just for the record. Adding the option -DSSL to httpd in S80apache and reading this page http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/ssl/ssl_faq.html solved it for me. Feb 26 14:10:03 Boots quick. Feb 26 14:12:02 pTweety, write up a wiki page please? Feb 26 14:12:11 It can be simple. Feb 26 14:12:44 Jepp, I will do it asap Feb 26 14:13:29 thanks. Feb 26 14:22:31 <[g2]> billwernet2, ping ! Feb 26 14:29:45 Interrupt problems on /dev/sda with openslug. Feb 26 14:31:46 lots of them or what? Feb 26 14:32:52 Maybe ehci. Running mkfs.ext3 and I get a screen full of messages. Feb 26 14:33:48 This is on the serial console. Feb 26 14:34:32 when you run fdisk it sees it correctly? Feb 26 14:34:42 or did you fdisk it on another machine? Feb 26 14:36:20 Yes it sees it fine under fdisk. It disconnected and reconnected as sdb. Feb 26 14:40:41 I have 3 ext3 partitions. The first mkfs.ext3 will run fine. The errors occure on subsequent runs. Feb 26 14:41:26 I am going to reboot and try it again. Feb 26 14:42:29 reboots sometimes clear up things...however if its repeatable maybe a slugbug is in order. Feb 26 14:43:26 Failed first time this time. Feb 26 14:43:45 This drive worked fine under unslung. Feb 26 14:44:20 I will try a fresh fdisk and format. Feb 26 14:44:51 finally... Feb 26 14:45:01 * siddy-v6 dances the back-on-IPv6-dance Feb 26 14:50:11 <[g2]> Congrats siddy-v6 Feb 26 14:52:14 took ages to get that thing running on openslug, but now my IPv6-tunnel-gateway is finally back at work! ;) Feb 26 14:54:07 <[g2]> Cool. Which version of openslug are you running ? Feb 26 14:54:34 1.3-alpha Feb 26 14:54:59 <[g2]> siddy-v6 is just so state-of-the-art :) Feb 26 14:55:33 :) Feb 26 14:56:05 oh, I notice lot's of system-alignment-errors with this new version. Feb 26 14:56:21 I see 2681 errors at bootup! :-\ Feb 26 14:56:43 any idea where those suddenly come from? Feb 26 14:56:48 <[g2]> Really ? That must be the ipv6 stuff Feb 26 14:57:21 hm... I get the errors without the ipv6-module, but it may be the dual-stack... Feb 26 14:57:51 <[g2]> hmmm, maybe be not ! Feb 26 14:58:05 I'll check somewhen in the next days, they don't seem to hurt too much atm. Feb 26 14:59:09 <[g2]> some halfword is clealy not aligned Feb 26 14:59:26 but there definetely seems to be a alignment-problem in the ipv6-code, I get lots of errors as I type in here. Feb 26 15:01:58 ka6sox-away: I will try another drive. Feb 26 15:06:14 ka6sox: @nd drive in port 2 worked ok. I'll swap them around and see what happens. Feb 26 15:07:19 can someone please add this page to the howto page: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/EnableHTTPSforApache Feb 26 15:08:21 <[g2]> pTweety, thx that looks nice Feb 26 15:10:33 np, but beware of my german-english Feb 26 15:12:53 Both drives on both ports. Same problem. Feb 26 15:14:27 glc: ugh. Feb 26 15:30:00 ka6sox-away: slugbug submitted. Feb 26 15:30:09 glc: thanks Feb 26 15:48:01 nite folks! Feb 26 15:51:03