**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 27 23:59:56 2005 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Feb 28 00:40:44 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 28 00:40:52 2005 Feb 28 00:50:01 morning Feb 28 00:50:17 mornin Feb 28 01:14:38 morning! Feb 28 01:22:12 hi Feb 28 03:40:22 hello all Feb 28 03:42:57 g'day Feb 28 03:43:37 i'm not lone :-) Feb 28 03:43:46 ..alone.. Feb 28 03:44:29 no, it's normally a slow period at this time Feb 28 03:44:54 i'm trying to build a openslug image... but i'm new to this Feb 28 03:45:23 which wiki page instructions are you following? Feb 28 03:45:54 i followed the gettingstarted wiki page and only changed unslung to openslug Feb 28 03:48:08 im back, i missclicked somehow... Feb 28 03:48:33 that page should work - what error are you seeing? Feb 28 03:49:06 nothing right now, thanks Feb 28 03:50:04 ive one questin. should i install a seriall port or a jtag port to my nslu2 when i try to flash openslug? Feb 28 03:50:31 You dont need a JTAG port unless youre planning to play with bootloaders Feb 28 03:50:46 if you set up your slug for static addressing, and can telnet into redboot, then you don't need serial Feb 28 03:50:47 a serial port is sufficient for most experimentation. Feb 28 03:50:52 no, i dont want to play with it Feb 28 03:50:59 but serial is certainly handy Feb 28 03:51:14 If you dont plan to do much playing around, you probably dont even need serial. Feb 28 03:53:51 ok, very good, thanks. Feb 28 03:54:25 is samba working in openslug? Feb 28 03:54:58 dunno yet Feb 28 03:55:41 because the linksys firmware (R25 and R29) are quite unstable if i copy large amount of files... Feb 28 03:56:07 my box crashes after reading or writing about 2GB Feb 28 04:37:52 hi. one thing: where do i have to put my aliases into, in order to have them after login? the stuff i enter in /etc/profile seems to be ignored. wonder why !? Feb 28 04:40:47 sorry, i dont know. i finished my first openslug build now :-) Feb 28 04:42:13 on openslug now.. nice! Feb 28 04:43:16 you should enter yourslef to the yahoo-group-database as number 19 then! Feb 28 04:44:58 first i try to flash it. do u know where i can fint how to flash openslung? Feb 28 04:48:54 you can use the web interface. But you should set your gateway first. it'll help the first boot finish. Feb 28 04:50:42 morning sunshine. Feb 28 04:51:01 [g2], chrta is a new openslug builder. Feb 28 04:51:12 <[g2]> right back at you ! Feb 28 04:51:20 hi, im back Feb 28 04:51:21 <[g2]> chrta ? Feb 28 04:51:29 <[g2]> hi chrta ! Feb 28 04:51:41 chrta, [g2] is the openslug release manager. Feb 28 04:52:05 hi [g2] and dyoung Feb 28 04:52:07 <[g2]> I've been Fired! Feb 28 04:53:10 <[g2]> chrta, So your using OpenSlug ? Feb 28 04:53:28 i boot my nslu2 without any disk connected. can u telle me where to find the flash-image? Feb 28 04:53:42 i build it 10 minutes ago and i want to use it Feb 28 04:54:14 <[g2]> What firmware are you running on your nslu2 right now Feb 28 04:54:33 23R25 Feb 28 04:55:25 <[g2]> chrta, Read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/BetaRelease Feb 28 04:55:45 <[g2]> and the TurnUp procedure that linked inside Feb 28 04:56:38 thx Feb 28 04:57:07 i dont have much time now, i will be back if im ready with that. Feb 28 04:57:09 hi [g2], i'll try openslug tonight ;) no reason anymore to delay it :) Feb 28 04:57:18 <[g2]> chrta, np. Read it all first and then if you have any questions let me know Feb 28 04:57:22 <[g2]> perlguru-work, cool! Feb 28 05:00:13 is there a package feed for openslug yet? Feb 28 05:01:22 <[g2]> perlguru-work, it's being looked into Feb 28 05:01:42 i set my nslu2 to fixed ip etc. i dont need the data on my hdd. can i flash the image now? Feb 28 05:01:48 <[g2]> there are a bunch of packages in OE and some testing is underway and ppl are starting to add to the OE repo Feb 28 05:02:06 <[g2]> chrta, did you read everything ? Feb 28 05:02:25 <[g2]> chrta, what did it say in the TurnUP procedure ? Feb 28 05:02:41 yes, but i have only the linksys firmware installed -> no ssh (?). Feb 28 05:03:10 is nfs-utils available in OE? Feb 28 05:03:49 chrta: use telnet Feb 28 05:03:54 there is something about preparing the hdd. but how? do i have to install unslung first to config the hdd via telnet? Feb 28 05:06:32 sda1 = data, sda2 = rootfs, sda3 = swap Feb 28 05:06:44 big/small/small Feb 28 05:07:25 <[g2]> chrta, Is there anything on the hd ? Feb 28 05:08:13 yes, but it could be deleted Feb 28 05:09:11 <[g2]> chrta, I don't know if fdisk is on there but mke2fs is Feb 28 05:11:26 03dyoung 07 * r1.2906 10openembedded/packages/mt-daapd/ (mt-daapd_0.2.1.1.bb files/mt-daapd.init): added startup script support Feb 28 05:12:16 ok, do i have to prepare my hdd now? Feb 28 05:13:02 <[g2]> chrta, How is your hd formatted ? Feb 28 05:13:15 <[g2]> You don't have to necessarily delete your data Feb 28 05:13:55 its formatted with the linksys firmware, unslung was installed there, too. Feb 28 05:14:00 is it ext3 ? Feb 28 05:15:35 <[g2]> chrta, You can put the system sw on sda2 which is where the old system sw was Feb 28 05:17:04 ok, i have some troubles to get the hdd working on my linux host :-( Feb 28 05:17:58 <[g2]> chrta, you can do that from the nslu2 Feb 28 05:18:35 ok, i can copy the files via smb to the nslu2 hdd? Feb 28 05:19:41 <[g2]> chrta, Let's back up for a moment Feb 28 05:20:21 <[g2]> You understand that OpenSlug is very late Alpha firmware or very Early Beta firmware ? Feb 28 05:20:42 <[g2]> we are very near our first Beta release Feb 28 05:21:00 yes, i dont need the box right now. -> its a chep embedded environment Feb 28 05:21:11 <[g2]> excellent Feb 28 05:21:32 <[g2]> Have you been able to telnet into Redboot during startup ? Feb 28 05:22:05 yes Feb 28 05:22:15 i installed unslung 2 times Feb 28 05:23:09 <[g2]> chrta, you are saying you upgraded unslung twice via Redboot ? Feb 28 05:23:16 no Feb 28 05:23:31 i only deleted the config area via redboot Feb 28 05:23:41 i installed unslung via web frontend Feb 28 05:24:03 i format my hdd via linksys fw now. Feb 28 05:24:05 <[g2]> Ok deleting the config and is getting to the Redboot prompt Feb 28 05:24:24 <[g2]> chrta, You don't need to format your hd Feb 28 05:24:30 <[g2]> it's already formatted Feb 28 05:25:03 yes, but i think its more simple then Feb 28 05:25:35 <[g2]> chrta, not really Feb 28 05:28:40 which files should i copy to the disk? not the whole /home/slug/ dir? Feb 28 05:30:01 <[g2]> chrta, before you do anything read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp Feb 28 05:30:16 <[g2]> That describes 99% of what needs to be done Feb 28 05:30:36 <[g2]> It should be *very* clear what's happening from there Feb 28 05:30:55 <[g2]> If it is not, then we need to clear up things before proceeding Feb 28 05:32:20 my problem: i want to run the system from hdd. But where should i type in "mount -t ..." if no unslung firmware is installed on my nslu2? Feb 28 05:33:20 <[g2]> chrta, after the OpenSlug firmware is flashed and rebooted you hotplug the hdd drive into port1 Feb 28 05:33:28 <[g2]> then you can issue the mount commands Feb 28 05:34:00 <[g2]> What command would you issue ? Feb 28 05:35:32 sry, my english is noct very good? what do u mean with ur question? Feb 28 05:37:27 <[g2]> chrta, I'm sure your english is better than my second language :) Feb 28 05:37:49 <[g2]> My question is what command from the command prompt would you type in to mount the hard drive Feb 28 05:39:16 mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/card Feb 28 05:39:32 i mount a ext3 hdd sda1 to the dir /mnt/card Feb 28 05:40:04 What about /etc/fstab? Feb 28 05:41:02 if i dont want to type the whole lin, but only mount /dev/sda1 i must add a line to the fstab Feb 28 05:41:36 yep Feb 28 05:43:13 openslug is a normal linux on the slug ;) Feb 28 05:45:01 <[g2]> chrta, exactly except you can use sda2 since that's where the Linksys system files are Feb 28 05:45:54 <[g2]> then either tar up that full disk on to (sda1 the data partition) or erase those files and follow the TurnUp proceedure Feb 28 05:47:49 i'm searching the openslug fw image on my hosts hdd, i cannot find it. but the build process finished with NOTE: package openslug-image-1.0: completed NOTE: build 200502281151: completed Feb 28 05:48:09 look in build/tmp/deplog/images Feb 28 05:48:25 deplog->deploy Feb 28 05:48:46 thx, found it Feb 28 05:50:28 maybe all your questions disappear when you flash and use openslug ;) Feb 28 05:50:28 there are 3 files. which one should i use? the openslug.flashhdisk.img, right? Feb 28 05:50:46 i hope so :-) Feb 28 05:51:07 <[g2]> chrta, that's the one Feb 28 05:51:10 use the .img one Feb 28 05:51:12 good Feb 28 05:51:19 :) Feb 28 05:51:21 i'll try it now Feb 28 05:51:22 morning Feb 28 05:51:27 hi VoodooZ_Work Feb 28 05:51:28 hello Feb 28 05:51:48 perlguru-work: did you know the AMD64 problem appears to be fixed in the latest ipkg? Feb 28 05:52:06 Or at least it builds fine for me and CosmicPenguin Feb 28 05:52:19 <[g2]> VoodooZ_Work, morning Feb 28 05:52:19 i read it in the logs.i'll try tonight when i am building the openslug image Feb 28 05:54:39 cool. Feb 28 05:55:06 a ssh server is running in openslug? Feb 28 05:55:25 <[g2]> dropbear just like is says in http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp Feb 28 05:55:31 my project for this week: migrate to openslug packages i use Feb 28 05:55:52 s/ /and/ Feb 28 05:55:54 wow openslug is certainly picking up speed as I use to hear only of unslung most of the time and now it's all openslug related. Feb 28 05:57:07 sorry, i dont know that dropbear is a sshd. Feb 28 05:57:26 <[g2]> chrta, that's ok Feb 28 05:58:12 rwhitby: great work. You've added most of my private changes! good. Feb 28 05:58:27 Were you planning on adding the /dev/buzzer node as well? Feb 28 05:58:42 beep Feb 28 05:58:48 :) Feb 28 05:58:58 or whatever. As long as I know so I won't bother doing it. Feb 28 05:59:04 echo beep > /dev/buzzer Feb 28 05:59:53 my firefox crashed... Feb 28 06:00:26 connected via ssh to the nslu2 Feb 28 06:01:11 <[g2]> Congrats ! Feb 28 06:01:52 <[g2]> Now just a couple more steps and you'll be booted to the hd Feb 28 06:02:52 could u send me the link to the TurnUp page. i lost it Feb 28 06:03:05 Openslug is growing so fast I feel like i'm playing catchup! :) Feb 28 06:05:06 <[g2]> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp Feb 28 06:05:17 thx Feb 28 06:08:29 g2: the openslug-beta-binary is not out yet though, right? Feb 28 06:09:03 <[g2]> Wipmac, correct Feb 28 06:10:19 <[g2]> Wipmac, We are very concerned about doing the right thing with regard to the Intel IP for the ixp drivers Feb 28 06:10:47 the line in the fstab should be "/dev/sda3 swap swap defaults 0 0" ? Feb 28 06:11:04 i see g2 Feb 28 06:13:14 <[g2]> chrta, type #swapon /dev/sda3; cat /proc/mounts Feb 28 06:15:36 swapon /dev/sda3 -> invalid argument Feb 28 06:16:10 but the fstype of /dev/sda3 is linux swap... Feb 28 06:16:24 mkswap /dev/sda3 Feb 28 06:16:44 <[g2]> beat me too it Feb 28 06:17:22 Wipmac: chrta is openslugger #19, i'll be #20, so maybe tommorrow openslug will be Beta ;) Feb 28 06:17:29 missed him :( Feb 28 06:18:54 thx for ur great help. I must leave no. Till next time. bye Feb 28 06:19:34 <[g2]> did chrta update the list ? Feb 28 06:19:46 guess not Feb 28 06:19:58 no-one told him to. Feb 28 06:20:25 <[g2]> Till next time. bye Feb 28 06:20:33 bye Feb 28 06:20:44 <[g2]> that was a quote from chrta Feb 28 06:21:48 i see Feb 28 06:22:02 [g2], rwhitby pushed the /dev/leds node, are you thinking of adding something for the buzzer like /dev/buzzer or /dev/beep? Feb 28 06:22:34 please call it: /dev/buzzer Feb 28 06:22:49 yeah, I'd prefer that as my robot code already uses that Feb 28 06:23:03 <[g2]> VoodooZ_Work, no buzzer or blinking leds right now Feb 28 06:23:12 I'm glad he created the leds one as leds too. Feb 28 06:23:33 I know but just the node. rwhitby added leds already Feb 28 06:23:39 <[g2]> well that was to match the code you put up on the wiki :) Feb 28 06:23:44 <[g2]> that I used Feb 28 06:23:48 good. Feb 28 06:24:04 <[g2]> VoodooZ_Work, you know that udev isn't being used right now Feb 28 06:24:12 yep. Feb 28 06:24:25 I might remove it eventually myself too. Feb 28 06:24:55 <[g2]> I'd like like to try and move to udev soon Feb 28 06:25:08 why not now? Feb 28 06:25:11 it's as easy as adding udev to your openslug.conf. Feb 28 06:25:23 I've been using it for months now. Feb 28 06:25:51 running udev for months now on my gentoo box Feb 28 06:25:54 <[g2]> perlguru-work, feature creep on the beta Feb 28 06:26:04 The onlly thing is, /dev/leds and /dev/buzzer are not detected automatically so you have to manually do it via /etc/udev/links.conf Feb 28 06:26:18 <[g2]> n2_ledm would be Feb 28 06:26:41 create a good udev rule for it Feb 28 06:27:17 * [g2] has to learn some more about udev Feb 28 06:27:28 the best way to learn is to try! Feb 28 06:27:38 Takes a few seconds only. Feb 28 06:27:54 yeah, I guess i was too lazy to add a rule for it. Feb 28 06:28:03 <[g2]> I know it is straight forward Feb 28 06:28:15 <[g2]> I'm just saying is not a priority for the first Beta Feb 28 06:28:21 of course. Feb 28 06:28:38 <[g2]> It can follow very quickly after that Feb 28 06:29:13 I might even remove it as I don't need it really. my hardware never changes. Feb 28 06:29:38 http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html Feb 28 06:29:56 You guys have added quite a lot of stuff to the kernel lately and I find myself having little space so I'll have to clean up a little. Feb 28 06:30:23 VoodooZ_Work: need a printer on your robot? It is possible ;) Feb 28 06:30:43 PLus, most of my private changes are being put in by you and rwhitby so I might wait it out and make the my changes after the storm is over. Feb 28 06:30:52 ummm. A printer? Maybe not! :) Feb 28 06:31:07 Could be useful for printing out a copy of the maze. Feb 28 06:31:10 NOT! Feb 28 06:31:45 btw, what's that nettrap_poll crap? I'm getting symbol not found stuff when starting up the CSR now. Feb 28 06:33:05 <[g2]> dunno Feb 28 06:33:10 <[g2]> I haven't seen that Feb 28 06:34:33 ok. It's probably my cleanup somehow. I'll try from scratch. Feb 28 07:57:41 hello Feb 28 07:58:10 openslug is running :-) now i will install some packages Feb 28 08:15:51 I have run out of space in /share/hdd/conf. I read IncreaseSpaceAvailableForPackages howto. Is that what everyone is doing to address this problem? Feb 28 08:19:49 hello Feb 28 08:20:13 where can i find packages for openslug? Feb 28 08:20:41 <[g2]-away> chrta, wb Feb 28 08:21:36 <[g2]> chrta, what packages are you looking for ? Feb 28 08:21:44 hi, openslug is running now :-) i added me to the beta testers list at #19 Feb 28 08:21:56 a ftpd or samba ? Feb 28 08:22:21 <[g2]> bitbake samba; bitbake openslug-image Feb 28 08:22:49 <[g2]> the second bitbake openslug-image rebuilds the Packages index Feb 28 08:23:19 <[g2]> I'm sure there's a ftpd in oe but I don't know which one Feb 28 08:23:41 <[g2]> chrta, THX for adding yourself to the yahoo DB! Feb 28 08:23:54 why is this necessary (to rebuild the package index)? Feb 28 08:24:26 <[g2]> Becase the old one won't have the samba package you build Feb 28 08:24:40 to install the packages i copy them to the openslug hdd via wget and then ipkg install. Is this correct? Feb 28 08:25:56 <[g2]> you can copy them to the hdd and setup ipkg.conf to src from file:///mnt/sda1/.... Feb 28 08:26:17 using a feed really is best, then you dont have to deal with dependencies, dont have to install them all manually Feb 28 08:26:46 <[g2]> kergoth, right but the feed isn't setup yet :) Feb 28 08:27:05 i didnt specify an official feed. that file:/// url is a feed as well Feb 28 08:27:09 heh Feb 28 08:27:14 <[g2]> :) Feb 28 08:28:17 for samba i add "source samba file://mnt/sda1/sambapackage.ipg" line to ipkg.conf? Feb 28 08:29:07 no Feb 28 08:29:14 :-( Feb 28 08:29:15 you point at the location where the Packages file resides Feb 28 08:29:16 with the ipk files Feb 28 08:29:31 just drop tmp/deploy/ipk on your hard drive, point ipkg at it, and start installing things Feb 28 08:32:11 how do i point ipkg at it? "source file://dev/sda1/ipk_dir" in ipkg.conf? Feb 28 08:33:31 src [source name] [url] Feb 28 08:33:33 <[g2]> It's like src openslug file://dev/sda1/ipk_dir/Packages Feb 28 08:34:07 ok, thx Feb 28 08:36:55 i come back in a few hours... dinner Feb 28 08:37:11 bye Feb 28 08:42:10 * perlguru : bb openslug-image Feb 28 08:43:24 oh Feb 28 08:43:57 yep, i'm gonna be #20 Feb 28 08:48:26 VoodooZ_Work, newest ipkg-native build for me too. Feb 28 08:57:09 perlguru-bbl: good! Feb 28 08:57:28 Let me know how it goes wiht a full build of openslug though. Feb 28 08:57:42 As mine comes up with a size error at the end of openslug-image. Feb 28 08:58:00 I think the file kernel or something is overflowing somehow. Feb 28 08:59:03 k Feb 28 09:50:12 <[g2]> [cc]smart, hey Feb 28 09:50:23 ~lart monday Feb 28 09:50:23 * jbot cuts monday into thin stripes Feb 28 09:50:31 <[g2]> Don't know if you noticed my comment in the logs Feb 28 09:51:33 <[g2]> [cc]smart, I had documented the gateway issue in http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp the day before you ran into it Feb 28 09:52:06 * [g2] consoles kergoth on his Monday-challenged state :) Feb 28 10:05:17 NOTE: Multiple libraries (libc.so.6, libcrypt.so.1, libm.so.6, libmemusage.so, libpthread.so.0, libresolv.so.2, librt.so.1, libutil.so.1, libnsl.so.1, libnss_files.so.2, libnss_compat.so.2, libnss_dns.so.2, libdl.so.2, libanl.so.1, libBrokenLocale.so.1) found and LEAD_SONAME not defined Feb 28 10:05:17 NOTE: Multiple libraries (libnss_hesiod.so.2, libnss_nis.so.2, libnss_nisplus.so.2) found and LEAD_SONAME not defined Feb 28 10:05:35 that isnt an error Feb 28 10:05:53 got also a traceback Feb 28 10:05:55 <[g2]> it's a NOTE: Feb 28 10:06:08 then the traceback has nothing to do with those notes. Feb 28 10:06:15 OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/maurice/nslu2 Feb 28 10:06:15 d/tmp/staging/shlibs' Feb 28 10:06:24 perlguru-bbl: Same error here too. Feb 28 10:06:31 report it in #oe Feb 28 10:06:38 which is where openslug dev should be happening anyway Feb 28 10:08:22 kergoth, i am in #oe now Feb 28 10:08:57 i see that, now wait for a response. Feb 28 10:09:50 i am waiting. if i have openslug running, i'll be there more often.... Feb 28 10:10:10 whether its running or not, thats the right place to report such issues. Feb 28 10:15:08 VoodooZ_Work, create the dir by hand (tip from pb_) Feb 28 10:16:57 dir? /home/maurice/nslu2 you mean? Feb 28 10:17:10 hi, i'm back. Feb 28 10:17:14 This is just temporary right? Feb 28 10:17:44 VoodooZ_Work: eh? you apparently missed the rest of his error Feb 28 10:17:49 12:51 < perlguru-bbl> d/tmp/staging/shlibs' Feb 28 10:17:51 yeah. sorry. Feb 28 10:17:53 heh Feb 28 10:18:02 ok. I'll double-check mine to make sure. Feb 28 10:18:15 trying it now ;) Feb 28 10:20:13 ok, it helped Feb 28 10:20:25 <[g2]> perlguru, you pulled from oe-devel ? Feb 28 10:20:52 my openslug box locked up when copying a 30MB file via wget (ftp) :-( Feb 28 10:20:58 no, manually fix it (create the dir) Feb 28 10:21:25 pb_ is gonna solve it when he is at home Feb 28 10:21:54 <[g2]> chrta, I've been running with the Intel Driver in an interrupt mode instead of polled mode Feb 28 10:22:21 <[g2]> chrta, siddy was having issues until he went to the interrupt mode under heavy load Feb 28 10:23:04 [g2]: so the intel ethernet driver is unstable? Feb 28 10:23:31 Wasn't there a newer version out? Feb 28 10:23:55 <[g2]> there is a newer verions but we haven't incoporated that yet Feb 28 10:24:16 yeah, but did you hear what's new with it? Feb 28 10:24:32 <[g2]> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/StabilizeEthernetDriver Feb 28 10:24:51 <[g2]> then page needs to be slightly tweaked Feb 28 10:25:47 <[g2]> chrta, go into the tmp/work/ixp... and tweak that file by commenting out those 3 lines Feb 28 10:25:53 <[g2]> then rm tmp/stamps/ixp425-eth-1.1-r0.do_compile Feb 28 10:25:59 <[g2]> and bb openslug-image Feb 28 10:26:18 hey LexDelani Feb 28 10:26:30 [g2]- check PM Feb 28 10:26:30 hi ka6sox-zzzz Feb 28 10:26:37 how are you all Feb 28 10:26:40 thx g2 Feb 28 10:26:42 hi Feb 28 10:27:00 LexDelani, pretty good. Feb 28 10:27:14 ka6sox, Good to hear Feb 28 10:27:27 I myself have been too busy lately Feb 28 10:28:11 thats not fun...no time for playing. Feb 28 10:28:28 Great work on the crosstools btw Feb 28 10:29:12 no its not fun, but well, work has to be done anyway Feb 28 10:29:25 ya... Feb 28 10:30:05 is it worth the trouble for me to resling with 3.18? i've got 3.17 Feb 28 10:33:42 can anyone help me with these errors? Feb 28 10:33:45 Not installing crosstool-native-inc (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. Feb 28 10:33:45 Not installing crosstool-native-lib (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. Feb 28 10:34:08 it keeps downloading and not installing these with ipkg upgrade Feb 28 10:35:09 Not installing crosstool-native-arch-bin (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. Feb 28 10:35:09 Not installing crosstool-native-arch-inc (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. Feb 28 10:35:09 Not installing crosstool-native-arch-lib (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. Feb 28 10:35:09 Not installing crosstool-native-bin (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. Feb 28 10:35:09 Not installing crosstool-native-inc (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. Feb 28 10:35:10 Not installing crosstool-native-lib (0.28-rc37-5) on root -- already installed. Feb 28 10:35:21 (sorry for spamming) Feb 28 10:57:42 <[cc]smart> [g2]: hi, just in Feb 28 10:58:54 <[g2]> hey Feb 28 10:59:07 <[g2]> [cc]smart, did you see my note from before ? Feb 28 10:59:26 <[cc]smart> yes Feb 28 11:00:25 <[g2]> cool Feb 28 11:00:47 <[cc]smart> i feel, the gateway should be verified on startup, and if there's none defined, it shouldn't be put in the file Feb 28 11:01:03 <[cc]smart> that way, at least comminucation with the device is ppossible to enter one Feb 28 11:01:23 <[cc]smart> right now, for the user there is no chance to get in anymore if he didn't follow this upfront Feb 28 11:02:21 gateway only allows slug to reach outside lan Feb 28 11:02:44 <[cc]smart> yes, but if gateway keyword is in the file without any specification, the result is that the interface stays down Feb 28 11:03:03 ah... I did not check that Feb 28 11:03:12 <- running OpenSlug 1.3 Feb 28 11:03:43 comment out gateway, and leave either to dhcp or user to set? Feb 28 11:06:05 <[cc]smart> i'd think static is the best default Feb 28 11:06:17 <[cc]smart> failsafe Feb 28 11:06:38 just like the nslu2 in *vrigin* mode Feb 28 11:11:24 padBytes error: data is longer than total_len at /home/maurice/nslu2/unslung2/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/slugimage line 58. Feb 28 11:11:24 openslug-image-1.0-r4: task do_rootfs: failed Feb 28 11:11:24 :/ Feb 28 11:11:37 thats the one voodooz hit Feb 28 11:11:49 so it is AMD64 related. Feb 28 11:11:52 yeah. Feb 28 11:12:01 My xeon build works fine. Feb 28 11:12:19 But the AMD one seems to produce a slighty bigger kernel or something. Feb 28 11:12:22 i have no xeon Feb 28 11:12:40 well, non-AMD64 anyways. Feb 28 11:12:40 strange Feb 28 11:13:21 They've added quite a few things to the kernel so it's possible the problem might go away by removing stuff in the defconfig file. Feb 28 11:13:22 bug in slugimage? Feb 28 11:13:28 Might be too! Feb 28 11:13:40 Isn't slugimage a perl file though? Feb 28 11:14:55 file tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/slugimage Feb 28 11:14:55 tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/slugimage: perl script text executable Feb 28 11:15:40 Mine reports the error on line 58. maybe you can try putting some debug prints to locate the issue. Feb 28 11:16:37 the scripts is written by jacques and rwhitby-away Feb 28 11:16:50 yep Feb 28 11:18:50 | Read 0x00103010 bytes from "vmlinuz" into (9 blocks / 8 blocks) Feb 28 11:18:50 | Read 0x00033F2C bytes from "switchbox.ext2.gz" into (2 blocks / 53 blocks) Feb 28 11:18:50 | Feb 28 11:24:27 VoodooZ_Work, how large is the zimage on the xeon? Feb 28 11:24:59 which file is this in again? Feb 28 11:25:05 zImage-openslug: 1060880 Feb 28 11:25:21 -rw-r--r-- 1 stephane stephane 958732 Feb 28 14:00 zImage-openslug Feb 28 11:25:22 in tmp/deploy/images Feb 28 11:25:29 no Feb 28 11:25:41 actually, this is a modified kernel so don't use it. Feb 28 11:26:07 I don't have two identical builds to compare. Feb 28 11:26:16 4718592 Feb 28 20:01 openslug-nslu2-20050228164145.rootfs.jffs2 Feb 28 11:26:36 -rw-r--r-- 1 stephane stephane 4718592 Feb 28 13:52 openslug-nslu2-20050228144331.rootfs.jffs2 Feb 28 11:26:36 drwxr-xr-x 2 stephane stephane 4096 Feb 28 13:52 slug Feb 28 11:26:36 -rw-r--r-- 1 stephane stephane 1060868 Feb 28 13:49 zImage-openslug Feb 28 11:26:45 (on the opteron box) Feb 28 11:27:25 my zImage is too big. Feb 28 11:28:41 mine too Feb 28 11:28:54 (9 blocks) Feb 28 11:29:01 I don't see where that could be hosed though Feb 28 11:29:12 ping [g2] Feb 28 11:29:20 <[g2]> perlguru, pong Feb 28 11:29:32 have you seen this problem? Feb 28 11:29:47 <[g2]> I the logs from you guys Feb 28 11:29:53 <[g2]> In Feb 28 11:30:18 can this be solved? Feb 28 11:30:42 <[g2]> your zImage being to large ? Feb 28 11:30:46 yes Feb 28 11:30:59 <[g2]> remove a module Feb 28 11:31:14 <[g2]> or two Feb 28 11:31:37 yeah, but it's not that as a stock build is too big. Feb 28 11:31:56 ANd it works for everybody else not using an AMD64 arch. Feb 28 11:32:00 <[g2]> Only on AMD64 right ? Feb 28 11:32:06 seems so Feb 28 11:32:18 there's only 2 of us for now. Feb 28 11:32:45 And the perl based slugimage even complains about the size being too big. Feb 28 11:33:44 I guess the first step would be to trace back where the file gets produce and which tool is involved. Feb 28 11:34:07 <[g2]> There are several things we can do Feb 28 11:34:09 guessing: the kernel and gcc Feb 28 11:34:30 <[g2]> 1/ scale back some modules Feb 28 11:34:49 <[g2]> ext3 and jdb are obvious choices for you guys Feb 28 11:35:16 <[g2]> I think you can boot with ext2 and then remount after booting and loading the module Feb 28 11:35:20 i want ext3 because i'll use a hdd Feb 28 11:35:33 <[g2]> perlguru, I just saying for the initial boot Feb 28 11:35:39 yeah, but those are only workarounds. Feb 28 11:35:45 k Feb 28 11:36:12 <[g2]> I'm sure there's got to be some other cruft in there that we are not using Feb 28 11:36:38 like BT Feb 28 11:36:58 <[g2]> Well there are more BT users than AMD64 users Feb 28 11:37:24 :) Feb 28 11:38:10 <[g2]> I don't remember How crazy Redboot is about the size of the kernel. Feb 28 11:38:26 # USB Host-to-Host Cables Feb 28 11:38:27 <[g2]> We *may* be able to bump the size of the kernel by 1 block Feb 28 11:38:32 <[g2]> They work Feb 28 11:38:36 they are all y Feb 28 11:39:30 <[g2]> Right, I'd give Host-to-Host (or at least alll the one other than my host-to-host cable) :) Feb 28 11:40:43 <[g2]> seriously, we probably don't need Host-to-Host support on boot Feb 28 11:41:57 ok, changed defconfig Feb 28 11:42:36 I'm getting two fresh clones on my xeon and opteron boxes so I can compare file sizes Feb 28 11:43:24 bitbake samba doesn't work, the path to samba 3.0.10 on the server is wrong Feb 28 11:44:06 chrta, try the #oe channel Feb 28 11:44:44 <[g2]> chrta you mean it's not configured properly after the ipkg install ? Feb 28 11:44:48 should i add it to the nslu2 bug-list? Feb 28 11:45:13 no, the download of the sambasources doesn'nt work Feb 28 11:45:27 <[g2]> that worked fine for me the other day Feb 28 11:45:30 i downloaded it manually now Feb 28 11:45:59 the actual version is 3.0.11 now, so 3.0.10 moved to /oldversion dir Feb 28 11:46:52 <[g2]> ok report that in #oe that the source location is not correct Feb 28 11:46:59 ok Feb 28 11:58:47 bye Feb 28 12:04:04 mm, my image doesn't seem to get smaller... Feb 28 12:06:20 CONFIG_NET_RADIO=y ?? Feb 28 12:19:27 perlguru: that is very old stuff. Feb 28 13:45:07 <[cc]smart> [g2]: Still there ? Feb 28 13:45:12 <[g2]> yes Feb 28 13:45:26 <[g2]> [cc]smart, yes Feb 28 13:45:37 <[cc]smart> Just wanted to go to bed, but then i felt, there is some issue that seems important Feb 28 13:45:52 <[cc]smart> you mentionned the linksys storage method for configuration Feb 28 13:46:01 <[cc]smart> that flash area and using it in openslug Feb 28 13:46:10 <[cc]smart> i think it shouldn't and it should but idfferent way Feb 28 13:46:20 <[cc]smart> that is, openslug should behave like any other linux distro Feb 28 13:46:44 <[cc]smart> using that linksys flash configuration magic would interfere with typical filebased configuration Feb 28 13:46:52 <[cc]smart> which normal linux usage suggests Feb 28 13:47:20 <[cc]smart> what is good with the separate flashspace is its ability to transfer and keep config across instalations Feb 28 13:47:27 <[cc]smart> or different versions flashed Feb 28 13:47:41 <[cc]smart> so what i think would make sense is to have two tools Feb 28 13:47:53 <[cc]smart> one for storing important configration comonents into flash Feb 28 13:48:04 <[cc]smart> and one for reading it out and writing it into cinfig files Feb 28 13:48:10 <[cc]smart> this would Feb 28 13:48:32 <[cc]smart> - keep scripts unmessed w resp. to fetching data from lnksys flash Feb 28 13:48:39 <[cc]smart> - allow for transport Feb 28 13:48:57 <[cc]smart> - each version of OE has just these two scripts- matching its version based configfiles Feb 28 13:49:20 <[cc]smart> while config flash sticks to same defintions Feb 28 13:49:32 <[cc]smart> that is to same variable anmes Feb 28 13:49:38 <[cc]smart> what do you think ? Feb 28 13:49:56 <[g2]> you bring up many good points... Here are some thoughts Feb 28 13:50:58 <[g2]> 1/ We need to read the sysconf on first boot which is what we are doing. Otherwise the networking doesn't work and the user is left with a headless access less device (until Redbot puts accessable sw) in Feb 28 13:51:34 <[g2]> 2/There on reason we can't overwrite the linksys parition and save data there in our own format. Feb 28 13:51:50 <[g2]> It just that we haven't gotten around to something like that. Feb 28 13:52:08 <[g2]> Right now, the key data is the MAC addr and network settings. Feb 28 13:52:52 <[g2]> 3/config files for matching versions don't really apply to OpenSlug Feb 28 13:53:17 <[cc]smart> do we really need to save that for openslug ? openslug per se isn't interested in "what was there" in a way. so it could just behave like redboot and come up with a pre defined static config. Feb 28 13:53:21 <[g2]> The first group of users (Day Trippers or Day Trekkers) is reall a binary only crowd Feb 28 13:53:45 <[cc]smart> i dont understand 3) Feb 28 13:54:02 <[cc]smart> ah Feb 28 13:54:04 <[cc]smart> now i think Feb 28 13:54:06 as such, the need for revert capability for Day Trippers is ?needed? Feb 28 13:54:27 <[cc]smart> you refer to the transfer suggestion from above Feb 28 13:54:36 <[cc]smart> that was not meant for going back Feb 28 13:54:37 <[g2]> ByronT-Away, yes a recovery mechanism could be important Feb 28 13:55:19 <[g2]> All that required is to dd off the /dev/mtdblock2 and restore it (the sysconfig area) Feb 28 13:55:25 <[g2]> then reflash the kernel and rootfs Feb 28 13:55:31 <[cc]smart> if that's wanted, a dump of the config area could be written for later replay into config space Feb 28 13:55:45 <[cc]smart> yes Feb 28 13:56:05 I was thinking more of the hd in openslug vs. unslung (or stock f/w) Feb 28 13:56:08 <[g2]> an actually that is already dd'd off and saved :) in the jffs2 partition :) Feb 28 13:56:19 sigh Feb 28 13:56:52 as for me, I like OpenSlug... "clean slate!" Feb 28 13:57:03 now for me to eat my vegetables.... Feb 28 13:57:05 <[g2]> We already have a writeable storage area in the jffs2 or hd/flashstick Feb 28 13:57:45 <[g2]> just dd'ing back the sysconf (if it got trashed somehow) would allow one to restore Feb 28 13:58:02 <[cc]smart> yes Feb 28 13:58:18 <[cc]smart> and it would also free the space for suggested usage :) Feb 28 13:59:20 <[g2]> for serious camp #4 and #5 it's a custom distro and ppl are doing their own things... giel, billwernet2 siddy-away .... Feb 28 13:59:23 <[cc]smart> you could go like "saveconfigtoouterspace", reflash your slug, issue "fetchconfigfromouterspace" and ready you aaare Feb 28 14:00:37 <[cc]smart> what i just fear, is that the scripts will interfere with normal, filebased configuration which theyy could overwrite with whatever they read from configspace... which i'd hate :) Feb 28 14:00:47 Which is exactly once. Feb 28 14:00:52 <[g2]> It's 128K for the sysconf partition right now. We've got and extra 1MB in /boot with the bzImage Feb 28 14:00:54 <[cc]smart> only on primary boot ? Feb 28 14:01:07 [g2]: the kernel is in the rootfs? why? Feb 28 14:01:08 <[g2]> Our priority is the bzImage or freeing up the kernel parition Feb 28 14:01:17 look at how openzaurus does it Feb 28 14:01:23 the kernel .bb's emit an empty kernel ipk :) Feb 28 14:01:32 <[g2]> kergoth, I acutally want it there Feb 28 14:01:43 <[g2]> Then with APEX we'll lose the kernel parition Feb 28 14:01:50 <[g2]> and pull it straight out of the rootfs Feb 28 14:01:55 but it wouldnt be there for non-apex users. Feb 28 14:01:58 i agree, thats optimal Feb 28 14:02:15 <[g2]> and have 2 rootfs each with their own kernels and modules Feb 28 14:02:20 <[g2]> full backup Feb 28 14:02:34 right, having the kernel and modules together just makes sense. Feb 28 14:02:39 <[g2]> and a failsafe mechanism with the reset button / power button and LEDs Feb 28 14:03:05 although i could foresee putting kernel+modules in a seperate partition and unioning it over the main one, thereby making it easy to switch kernel+modules without screwing with the rootfs Feb 28 14:03:09 but thats just a random idea Feb 28 14:03:23 <[g2]> Good idea Feb 28 14:03:34 <[g2]> We should probably make udev work first :) Feb 28 14:03:34 you'd have to dynamically do the sizing, so as to not waste space :) Feb 28 14:04:14 <[cc]smart> ok, so now i formulated my fears of the day, and so i can go to bed and RIP :) Feb 28 14:04:18 <[cc]smart> n8 Feb 28 14:04:30 <[g2]> THX Feb 28 17:32:59 <[g2]> ping siddy-away Feb 28 19:03:37 x Feb 28 19:03:39 x Feb 28 19:04:24 y Feb 28 19:04:37 z Feb 28 19:28:20 <|Leary|> anyone got webmin running on the nlsu2? Feb 28 19:31:32 ls Feb 28 19:31:46 CompBrain: ping Feb 28 19:34:08 ~seen compbrain Feb 28 19:34:09 compbrain is currently on #nslu2-linux Feb 28 19:40:33 Hey Feb 28 19:40:37 * CompBrain is here **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Feb 28 23:59:56 2005