**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 02 23:59:56 2005 Apr 03 00:28:55 hello Apr 03 00:28:58 who's here? Apr 03 00:29:20 <[g2]> I'm here Apr 03 00:30:00 do you know how to switch the identification of partitions? i.e., make sdb2 be sdb1 and so forth? Apr 03 00:30:57 <[g2]> rh2, well that doesn't make much sense, the partitions are ordered on a disk in the partition table Apr 03 00:31:09 <[g2]> the could be swapped on their mount points Apr 03 00:31:18 <[g2]> they could Apr 03 00:32:03 <[g2]> what sw are you running unslung ? openslug ? and what version ? Apr 03 00:32:38 unslung. i've been trying to format a disk for the NSLU2 manually on anothe rmachine. Apr 03 00:32:52 and it appears to me that the formatting software i've been using has been showing me the partitions in the reverse order Apr 03 00:33:00 so my sdb1 has instead become sdb3 Apr 03 00:34:12 if they're ordered as arranged in a table, i'm not sure that just moving the partition physically will do it; i'll need something that can edit the table directly, unless the table is arranged physically always Apr 03 00:35:04 what do you think? Apr 03 00:36:32 <[g2]> I haven't run unslung for a while, but last I checked the disks were originally formatted with the linksys utility Apr 03 00:36:43 <[g2]> then ppl unsling afterwards Apr 03 00:37:02 <[g2]> I'm not sure what utility you are attempting to use Apr 03 00:37:08 well, i like being different Apr 03 00:37:20 i'm trying to convert what was an NTFS disk without losing the data on it Apr 03 00:37:23 <[g2]> the partitions used to be 1(data), 2(conf) 3(swap) iirc Apr 03 00:37:32 that's what i'm trying to achieve Apr 03 00:37:38 rh2, if you're insane enough you could edit the partition-table with fdisk. just erase the whole table and re-do it with exactly the same sectors... Apr 03 00:38:18 it should work, but it's definitely not recommended. Apr 03 00:38:34 other opinions on the erase-and-redo in fdisk? Apr 03 00:39:45 siddy: would the fdisk built into the NSLU2 be able to do that? Apr 03 00:40:31 dunno Apr 03 00:42:32 oh, how about a little trick: just change the device-nodes /dev/sd?? the way you'd like them to be. Apr 03 00:42:53 that would work Apr 03 00:42:57 will it survive reboots? Apr 03 00:43:30 once again, dunno. If not you'll find some text-file in /etc which contains all the device-info Apr 03 00:44:48 do you know if the partition map naturally follows the physical order of the partitions on the disk? Apr 03 00:45:31 it doesn't need to. Apr 03 00:45:50 but some tools (eg partition magic) do it that way. Apr 03 00:47:54 <[g2]> siddy, so what's new with you ? hacking kernels lately ? Apr 03 00:48:19 i think patition magic is inclined to reverse the orders Apr 03 00:48:46 [g2], oh, I didn't do any kernel-kacking after I removed most of my alignment-errors. Apr 03 00:49:28 s/kack/hack/ ... lol Apr 03 00:51:44 [g2], my focus went to my new desktop-machine (amd64). I still have some kernel-issues with that sweet box, but I have no clue where to start searching. Apr 03 00:52:04 <[g2]> cool what kinda amd64 ? Apr 03 00:52:26 3200+, winchester core Apr 03 00:52:47 <[g2]> what kinda of mobo ? Apr 03 00:52:55 quite impressive performance compared to my old athlon 800! ;) Apr 03 00:52:57 A8V Apr 03 00:53:03 Asus A8V that is Apr 03 00:53:22 <[g2]> I've been toying with getting an amd64 Apr 03 00:53:32 <[g2]> the new duel-cores look exciting Apr 03 00:53:59 does amd already build dual-cores? Apr 03 00:54:32 <[g2]> nod. They'll be shipping in the next couple weeks from what I read at the inquirer Apr 03 00:54:33 <[g2]> :) Apr 03 00:54:52 <[g2]> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22289 Apr 03 00:55:28 <[g2]> I guess opteron anyway :) Apr 03 00:55:45 ah cool, but I fear the prices will be far beyond a student's budget... ;) Apr 03 00:56:13 <[g2]> I'd imagine the amd64's aren't far behind Apr 03 00:56:34 <[g2]> I was actually thinking about a semperon Apr 03 00:57:06 <[g2]> I'd like to setup the 24/7 gigabit nas Apr 03 00:57:19 <[g2]> so I'm looking for something fanless Apr 03 00:57:32 <[g2]> maybe mini-itx Apr 03 00:58:38 hm.. shuttle build fanless amd-systems. I would have bought one if they were a bit larger... ;) Apr 03 00:59:15 <[g2]> it's quite a premium for the shuttle systems Apr 03 01:00:01 <[g2]> I was pricing the mini-itx systems last night and it looked like $300 would get you a great case with power supply and mobo with processor Apr 03 01:00:11 <[g2]> $300 US that is Apr 03 01:00:38 <[g2]> 800 Mhz fanless, usb 2.0, .... Apr 03 01:01:32 hm... sounds a bit expensive for 800 MHz... Apr 03 01:02:02 <[g2]> well the case was nearly $120 :) Apr 03 01:02:35 <[g2]> actually more like $80 Apr 03 01:02:53 <[g2]> the 800 fanless with the CF slot was like $19 Apr 03 01:02:56 <[g2]> $219 Apr 03 01:04:19 * siddy looks astonished at the high prices for mini-itx-boards... Apr 03 01:04:53 <[g2]> you can get the older ones for $80-100 Apr 03 01:05:53 <[g2]> it doesn't seem to make sense to me to run PC133 memory in the old ones though Apr 03 01:06:04 <[g2]> the new ones support DDR Apr 03 01:06:50 hehe, I guess you need some performance to get a good utilization of your gigabit-LAN... ;) Apr 03 01:07:31 <[g2]> well actually, just multiple 100Mb is fine in my mind Apr 03 01:07:50 <[g2]> 8-10MB is just a little too slow Apr 03 01:08:06 <[g2]> although at $80 for the slug I'm not complaining much Apr 03 01:08:27 <[g2]> I'd still like to nail that EHCI issue Apr 03 01:09:01 oh, that one... there was some guy on lkml some days ago with the same problem. Apr 03 01:09:32 <[g2]> really ? Apr 03 01:09:34 He was told to use a recent kernel and was never seen again. :( Apr 03 01:10:20 <[g2]> well it's pretty reproducable, so sooner or later it'll get nailed Apr 03 01:10:40 http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/3/24/106 Apr 03 01:12:14 <[g2]> ah.. that x86 too Apr 03 01:12:53 yeah, the only thing in common is the NEC-chip. Apr 03 01:13:14 <[g2]> and 2.6.9/10/11 Apr 03 01:13:21 nod Apr 03 06:16:57 any comments on the unslung 4.x email? Apr 03 06:26:36 I just realised that with the wl500g being mipsel, then it is likely that libusb will work properly on the wl500g. Apr 03 06:38:14 03rwhitby * 10unslung/ (sources/ftpd-topfield/Makefile.patch make/ftpd-topfield.mk): Now compiles on wl500g Apr 03 06:40:32 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Added ftpd-topfield for wl500g. Apr 03 08:33:36 hi Apr 03 08:39:33 Hi guys, how do I rebuild a slighty modified openslug image please? Apr 03 08:57:28 <[g2]> bb openslug-image ? Apr 03 09:09:11 changing the OE build: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded/ChangingTheOEBuild Apr 03 11:01:38 Any feedback from anyone on the Unslung 4.x email I sent yesterday? Apr 03 11:07:30 hello Apr 03 11:23:53 dammit; does anyone here now know a lot about partition maps? Apr 03 11:25:53 ~google man fdisk Apr 03 11:25:56 Google says man fdisk is at http://www.hmug.org/man/8/fdisk.html or http://www.rt.com/man/fdisk.8.html or http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/fdisk.8.html or http://www.webservertalk.com/message984019.html or http://www.issociate.de/board/post/187476/Cfdisk_VS_Fdisk??.html Apr 03 11:35:14 dammit, it cannot be this dammed hard to reorder a partition table Apr 03 11:41:49 dammit janet! Apr 03 11:42:37 hello Apr 03 11:42:58 know anything about reordering partition tables, rwhitby? Apr 03 11:43:55 fdisk, p, write down the cylinder numbers for each partition, d, n, p, , enter cylinder numbers from reversed partition. Apr 03 11:44:14 not sure I'd want to do it on a disk that I have data on (unless the data is backed up somewhere else). Apr 03 11:44:23 is there a safe way to do it? Apr 03 11:44:27 and I make no guarantee whether that will work or not. Apr 03 11:44:41 yeah, copy the data elsewhere, redo the partition table, copy the data back. Apr 03 11:44:54 is there no software that can just reorder the table? Apr 03 11:45:08 dunno Apr 03 11:45:21 Yes, but its super manual Apr 03 11:45:32 and you can really screw it up if y ou dont know what youre doing. Apr 03 11:45:50 is there no software that has reordering built in? Apr 03 11:46:15 i can't understand why i can make, change, move, and resize my partitions so readily, but can't seem to find any way to get the damn partitions in the right order. Apr 03 11:46:26 even a partition editor that left the table in physical order would do it. Apr 03 12:02:20 dyoung: comments on the unslung 4.x email? Apr 03 13:17:13 didnt read it yet. I'll check soon. Apr 03 13:28:09 dyoung: did you get the single drive working? Apr 03 13:31:54 Hmm - dropbear only supports agent forwarding in the dropbear server, not in the client. You still need an openssh ssh client to actually use the agent forwarding. Apr 03 13:42:26 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/python.mk: use ucs4 unicode to match most most distributions, pysqlite requires ucs4 Apr 03 13:45:28 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/py-sqlite.mk): py-sqlite ready for cross testing Apr 03 13:46:38 nope, I never made it work. Apr 03 13:55:57 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/python.mk: added libstdc++ to the depends list Apr 03 14:05:10 so whats the openslug password? Apr 03 15:02:29 dyoung: it used to be opeNSLUg, but I don't know whether [g2] changed it with his latest update. The comment said it's OpenSlug. Apr 03 17:38:06 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libusb.mk: Now generates the control file. Apr 03 17:39:43 does libusb work now? Apr 03 17:40:24 it compiles for wl500g, and someone on the toppy forums in germany reckon they have ftpd-topfield (which uses libusb) running on the wl500g. Apr 03 17:40:58 neato Apr 03 17:42:09 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/libusb/control: Removed generated control file Apr 03 17:42:32 unfortunately, I have to go out tonight, so I won't get a chance to test it. Apr 03 17:44:19 it makes sense that it would work on mipsel (little endian) Apr 03 21:36:36 hello Apr 03 21:41:34 hi Apr 03 23:54:33 SlugCentral photo update: http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/slug-central Apr 03 23:54:58 moved the 7 port hub up there with the rest of the gear, in preparation for the arrival of the wl500gx next week. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Apr 03 23:59:57 2005