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May 12 00:32:30 <jeanfabrice> 'morning all
May 12 00:38:46 <ka6sox-away> hi there...
May 12 00:40:58 <jeanfabrice> ka6sox-away: did you succeed upgrading the toolchain on nudi ?
May 12 00:41:20 <ka6sox-away> not yet...I was out of town for 13hrs today.
May 12 00:41:31 <ka6sox-away> and just recently got in here.
May 12 00:41:40 <ka6sox-away> let me look at that now...brb
May 12 00:48:33 <ka6sox-away> jeanfabrice, it seems to be there already (installed)
May 12 00:48:39 <ka6sox-away> in /opt/brcm
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May 12 03:30:24 <stefanhauser> Hi. I try to build Openslug, but get an error. Can anybody help me? 
May 12 03:37:38 <rwhitby> why is it that people don't just post the error, but feel they have to ask if someone will help them ....
May 12 03:43:05 <jeanfabrice> You don't know ? well, from my own experience : courtesy / shyness. You guys appear like gurus. And disturbing a guru is not very easy thing to do
May 12 03:49:00 <dyoung> rwhitby, I guess we've extended the illusion pretty well. :-)
May 12 03:50:52 <jeanfabrice> dyoung: no : you ARE gurus, trust me (and I'm not a newbie)
May 12 03:51:45 <dyoung> Nah.  A carefully crafted Illusion i tell you. :-)
May 12 03:51:52 <rwhitby> dyoung: they must not have read the old logs ...
May 12 03:52:25 <rwhitby> (e.g. the bricking of jacques's slug)
May 12 03:53:09 <rwhitby> (and the many times we check something in without testing it)
May 12 04:36:10 <dyoung> I should plug this Tivo in.
May 12 05:55:25 <CIA-1> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Promoted sane-backends for Wiley
May 12 05:59:31 <dyoung> nice.
May 12 05:59:45 <dyoung> Theres a sane interface for USB Cameras too.
May 12 06:03:18 <jf-work> dyoung: are you talking about gphoto2 ?
May 12 06:04:30 <dyoung> No, there is a sane interface to USB cameras.
May 12 06:04:36 <dyoung> oh, I should be more specific
May 12 06:04:41 <dyoung> USB WebCam type cameras
May 12 06:12:30 <CIA-1> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/make/sane-backends.mk: Corrected typo in download location
May 12 06:41:16 <NAiL> Hmm... has anyone built gphoto2 successfully? 
May 12 06:43:18 <NAiL> It'd be brilliant if I could plug in my Ixus, and have the slug create a folder somewhere in my shares and copy all the pictures there
May 12 06:44:41 <jf-work> NAiL: I did not know if I had to include it or not with sane, so it wasn't. But afair, I did compile it, yes.
May 12 06:45:44 <jstueve> can't you script that?
May 12 06:46:27 <NAiL> jstueve: Should be possible with hotplug somehow, I guess. I'm not familiar with hotplug though
May 12 06:46:49 <jf-work> jstueve: having gphoto2 support in sane-backends ?
May 12 06:47:14 <jstueve> is ixus a camera?
May 12 06:48:55 <NAiL> yes
May 12 06:49:07 * NAiL wanders off to eat dinner.. bbiaw
May 12 07:02:40 <NAiL> the ixus doesn't show up as a USB disk, unfortunately. So I have to use gphoto2 to access the pictures
May 12 07:03:13 <jstueve> ah... I understand, read up on gphoto2
May 12 07:03:40 <jstueve> mega cool... need to try it with my Kodak DX6940
May 12 07:04:07 <NAiL> jf-work: How'd you compile gphoto2? 
May 12 07:06:56 <jf-work> sane-backends can link against gphoto2. I compild libgphoto2, no more
May 12 07:13:42 <NAiL> ah
May 12 07:15:26 <NAiL> From what I can see, there's not sane backend that'll do exactly what I want...
May 12 07:15:32 <NAiL> Close, but no cigar ;)
May 12 07:21:27 <Dude001> hi there!
May 12 07:25:21 <Dude001> I am trying to add a printer to my slug. I installed cups but now when I connect to http://slugip:631/ I got a HTTP 404 error (URL not found). Any clue
May 12 07:40:21 <eno-away> ping jeanfabrice?
May 12 07:42:07 <eno-away> for some reason, -r1.518 of unslung/Makefile changed back CROSS_PACKAGES_READY_FOR_TESTING
May 12 07:43:50 <hculver> OK, I'm being slow this morning.  ffmpeg can't open libavformat.so (which is in /opt/lib), I can set LD_LIBRARY_PATH (if I exec bash).  Is there some ldconfig/ld.so.conf equiv?
May 12 07:48:44 <eno-away> hculver, objdump -p /opt/bin/ffmpeg | grep RPATH
May 12 07:49:03 <jeanfabrice> eno-away: pong
May 12 07:49:50 <eno-away> jeanfabrice, the latest unslung/Makefile reversed some of the CROSS_PACKAGES_READY_FOR_TESTING
May 12 07:49:51 <jeanfabrice> eno-away: cvs has been down for a few hours. Did something disappear in it ?
May 12 07:50:02 <jeanfabrice> eno-away: humm
May 12 07:50:18 <eno-away> do you mind if i correct it?
May 12 07:50:34 <jeanfabrice> nop. what does change ?
May 12 07:50:50 <jeanfabrice> usbutils ?
May 12 07:50:50 <eno-away> hculver, objdump shows ffmpeg does not have the correct RPATH set, should be /opt/lib
May 12 07:51:37 <eno-away>  CROSS_PACKAGES_READY_FOR_TESTING = \
May 12 07:51:37 <eno-away> +       nget \
May 12 07:51:37 <eno-away> +       py-cherrypy \
May 12 07:51:37 <eno-away> +       usbutils \
May 12 07:51:37 <eno-away> +       sane-backends
May 12 07:51:54 <eno-away> and,
May 12 07:51:57 <eno-away> -       samba siproxd sqlite strace stunnel syslog-ng \
May 12 07:51:57 <eno-away> +       samba sane-backends siproxd sqlite strace stunnel syslog-ng \
May 12 07:52:23 <jeanfabrice> sane-backends is in the wiley branch
May 12 07:53:12 <jeanfabrice> ok. I see. so you should juste let sane-backends on CROSS_PACKAGES_READY_FOR_TESTING
May 12 07:53:16 <eno-away>  maybe you want to add nget/py-cherrypy/usbutils to wiley cross testing?
May 12 07:53:35 <jeanfabrice> nop. usbutils is already promoted
May 12 07:53:51 <hculver> eno-away, yeah, had to move things around a bit and find armeb-linux-objdump, but yeah, it also requires glibc
May 12 07:54:40 <eno-away> hculver, file a bug against ffmpeg on RPATH
May 12 07:55:10 <hculver> eno-away: thx.
May 12 07:55:44 <eno-away> jeanfabrice, then i just remove nget/py-cherrypy/usbutils from CROSS_PACKAGES_READY_FOR_TESTING, since they are all promoted
May 12 07:55:45 <hculver> eno-away: I haven't gotten spca5xx not to oops the machine yet either.
May 12 07:56:08 <hculver> eno-away, but thats my problem.
May 12 07:57:50 <jeanfabrice> eno-away: np, it's ok
May 12 07:58:36 <CIA-1> 03bzhou * 10unslung/Makefile: removed py-cherrypy nget and usbutils from CROSS_PACKAGES_READY_FOR_TESTING since they are already promoted
May 12 08:02:10 <jeanfabrice> eno-away, btw
May 12 08:02:14 <jeanfabrice> :)
May 12 08:02:25 <jeanfabrice> how can I delete a file from attic ?
May 12 08:33:10 <eno-away> jeanfabrice, sorry, just got to work. I don't think you can permanently delete a file from a cvs client, it has to be done on the server
May 12 08:34:12 <eno-away> jeanfabrice, i noticed python is in packages_need_to_be_fixed list for wiley, what problem does it have?
May 12 08:42:43 <jeanfabrice> eno-away: for python, I dunno. It's not me who put python there. I will try building it
May 12 08:42:58 <eno-away> k
May 12 09:10:33 <jstueve_> question: openslug how can I replace dropbear with OpenSSH without rebooting or losing my ssh connection?
May 12 09:12:29 <NAiL> Good question.
May 12 09:12:34 <NAiL> I did a reboot ;P
May 12 09:12:57 <NAiL> (And it took ages, presumably generating a key on boot)
May 12 09:13:03 <jstueve_> my slug doesn't reliably reboot, and needs a powercycle.. 
May 12 09:13:16 <jstueve_> I've installed sshd, and generated keys...
May 12 09:13:22 <jstueve_> sshd is in init.d
May 12 09:13:26 <NAiL> ah, yes. I wonder why that is. My slug takes ages to boot sometimes
May 12 09:13:58 <NAiL> Maybe I'll find out when I get my serial
May 12 09:14:04 <jstueve_> I need to killall dropbear and then immediately after that /etc/init.d/sshd
May 12 09:14:10 <jstueve_> maybe a cron job?
May 12 09:14:31 * jstueve_ is thinking outloud
May 12 09:14:49 <NAiL> at, but it's not installed :P
May 12 09:14:55 <NAiL> A cron-job would probably work
May 12 09:14:59 <jstueve_> dayum...
May 12 09:15:02 <jstueve_> pkg?
May 12 09:15:10 <NAiL> Not that I know :(
May 12 09:15:27 <jstueve_> shite...
May 12 09:15:30 <NAiL> cron isn't installed either
May 12 09:16:04 <jstueve_> okay.. shell script running in the background in a loop that executes once dropbear is no longer?
May 12 09:16:29 <NAiL> hmm
May 12 09:16:35 <NAiL> You could probably use nohup
May 12 09:16:53 <NAiL>  nohup
May 12 09:16:54 <jstueve_> what is nohup?
May 12 09:16:54 <NAiL> Run a command immune to hangups, runs the given COMMAND with hangup signals ignored, so that the command can continue running in the background after you log out.
May 12 09:16:57 <NAiL> SYNTAX
May 12 09:17:37 <NAiL> make a shell-script, that kills dropbear, waits a couple of secs, then shtars sshd
May 12 09:17:47 <NAiL> then nohup shellscript
May 12 09:17:50 <NAiL> (Probably)
May 12 09:18:16 <jstueve_> nohup --help
May 12 09:18:23 <NAiL> http://www.ss64.com/bash/nohup.html
May 12 09:18:38 <jstueve_> http://www.ss64.com/bash/nohup.html
May 12 09:19:00 <jstueve_> in irc..
May 12 09:19:03 <jstueve_> ok... so 
May 12 09:19:10 <jstueve_> #!/bin/bash
May 12 09:19:17 <jstueve_> killall dropbear
May 12 09:19:21 <jstueve_> wait 5000
May 12 09:19:26 <NAiL> hrm... no
May 12 09:19:33 <NAiL> #!/bin/bash
May 12 09:19:38 <NAiL> sleep 60
May 12 09:19:42 <jstueve_>  /etc/init.d/sshd start
May 12 09:19:52 <NAiL> /etc/init.d/dropbear stop
May 12 09:19:58 <NAiL> sleep 10
May 12 09:20:05 <NAiL> /etc/init.d/sshd start
May 12 09:20:28 <jstueve_> worth a try.. if not I'll stop by the house at lunch and give it a powercycle
May 12 09:20:29 <perlguru> ipkg remove dropbear ;)
May 12 09:20:40 <jstueve_> ipkg inst nohup?
May 12 09:21:12 <perlguru> someone toyed with cups and foomatic?
May 12 09:22:00 <NAiL> nohup is installed
May 12 09:22:05 <jstueve_> -sh: hohup: not found
May 12 09:22:20 <NAiL> jstueve_: Ah... you're not running bash
May 12 09:22:29 <NAiL> perlguru: Yes. Unsuccessfully :(
May 12 09:22:39 <jstueve_> aha
May 12 09:24:28 <jstueve_> gr.
May 12 09:24:40 <jstueve_> bash: nohup: command not found
May 12 09:25:19 <perlguru> NAiL i traced the problem to filedescriptors: /dev/fd/0 instead of stdin
May 12 09:25:53 <perlguru> and there is no /dev/fd/*
May 12 09:26:10 <perlguru> (not for unslung)
May 12 09:26:16 <NAiL> aha
May 12 09:26:48 <NAiL> 1 lrwx------  1 root root 64 Apr 12 18:25 /dev/fd/0 -> /dev/pts/0
May 12 09:26:55 <NAiL> It's in OpenSlug :)
May 12 09:26:58 <perlguru> the foomatic-gswrapper uses this
May 12 09:27:53 <perlguru> patched footmatic-rip also: fixed some paths
May 12 09:28:45 <jstueve_> nohup is in coreutils
May 12 09:28:53 <perlguru> no /dev/pts/* in unslung
May 12 09:29:06 <NAiL> perlguru: Hmm...
May 12 09:29:49 * jstueve_ thinks again...
May 12 09:29:57 <NAiL> mknod b 136 0 /dev/pts/0? Probably won't work, but..
May 12 09:30:21 <jstueve_> how do I check to make sure sshd is configured to run on boot and not dropbear?
May 12 09:30:47 <NAiL> jstueve_: Best is to have sshd start before dropbear (incase sshd fails to start)
May 12 09:30:47 <perlguru> jstueve_: ls /opt/etc/init.d?
May 12 09:31:01 <jstueve_> it is in sshd is in there
May 12 09:31:09 <perlguru> you want dropbear AND openssh?
May 12 09:31:12 <NAiL> jstueve_: ln -s /etc/init.d/sshd /etc/rc5.d/S11sshd
May 12 09:31:14 <NAiL> perlguru: No
May 12 09:31:26 <NAiL> perlguru: just incase sshd fails to start of first boot
May 12 09:31:34 <NAiL> then dropbear will kick in
May 12 09:31:48 <NAiL> If sshd starts, it's just removing dropbear afterwarsds
May 12 09:32:05 <perlguru> i did openssh on openslug. no problems
May 12 09:32:12 <NAiL> perlguru: Without reboot?
May 12 09:32:18 <NAiL> I did too, but I did a reboot
May 12 09:32:36 <perlguru> yes, i rebooted
May 12 09:32:47 <jstueve_> I'll give this a whirl...
May 12 09:32:49 <perlguru> you have to i guess
May 12 09:32:52 <NAiL> Since I don't have a serial, I didn't want sshd failing to come up. That'd mean a reflash...
May 12 09:33:10 <jstueve_> thanks for the help, if you don't see me for a while...
May 12 09:33:12 <jstueve_> :)
May 12 09:33:14 <NAiL> no, it wouldn't... I'd just have to unplug sda...
May 12 09:33:21 * NAiL slaps himself silly
May 12 09:35:25 <perlguru> what /dev/... is stdin?
May 12 09:36:05 <NAiL> Don't have a stdin
May 12 09:36:08 <jstueve> :D
May 12 09:36:26 <jstueve> worked like a champ... thanks (I'll write up a wiki entry later)
May 12 09:36:33 <NAiL> the nohup-stuff?
May 12 09:37:05 <jstueve> yeah... blip putty disappears, restart and try to login... new host key.. ps-ef no dropbear sshd running
May 12 09:37:34 <jstueve> thanks for the help...
May 12 09:37:40 <jstueve> off to lunch.. bbl
May 12 09:39:01 <NAiL> ah, good :)
May 12 09:46:08 <NAiL> ka6sox-away: ping?
May 12 09:51:27 <perlguru> NAiL: where is /dev/fd/3 linked to? 
May 12 09:51:54 <perlguru> i saw something intresting: ls /proc/self/fd
May 12 09:52:13 <perlguru> lrwx------  1 root root 64 May 12 18:50 0 -> /dev/ttyp0
May 12 09:54:49 <perlguru> need to go... bye all
May 12 09:54:53 <NAiL> perlguru: Uh
May 12 09:54:55 <NAiL> argh
May 12 11:19:43 <ka6sox-office> NAiL, pong
May 12 11:27:36 <NAiL> ah
May 12 11:28:43 <ka6sox-office> just got into the lab...so I still need to work on the cables today.
May 12 11:28:59 <NAiL> ok
May 12 12:16:58 <jstueve> is there a single package for openslug that will setup a development env?
May 12 12:50:48 <jeanfabrice> wileyware 1.9.2.7-CR5a is out
May 12 12:52:59 <ka6sox-lunch> jeanfabrice, advantages to this? bug fixes?
May 12 12:55:33 <jeanfabrice> main bugfixes printing issues
May 12 12:55:59 <ka6sox-lunch> ah.
May 12 12:56:16 <jeanfabrice> add awk busybox applet (wileyware should really go to optwares)
May 12 12:56:34 <jeanfabrice> Fixed RAW printing bugs, switched to unidirectional transfers by default
May 12 12:56:34 <jeanfabrice> Fixed support for the WPA-PSK in the Client Mode, thanks to miraculix for findings
May 12 12:56:34 <jeanfabrice> Fixed ftp server bug, which prevented files to be uploaded to subdirectories
May 12 12:56:34 <jeanfabrice> CET Timezone update by engy, added Czech Republic
May 12 12:56:34 <jeanfabrice> Increased number of entries on the Bandwidth page up to 32, patch from engy
May 12 12:56:35 <jeanfabrice> Added awk applet, applied mktime patch from engy
May 12 12:56:37 <jeanfabrice> Applied timezones uClibc patch prepared by engy
May 12 12:56:39 <jeanfabrice> Applied tomilius patches adding several new iptables targets
May 12 12:56:41 <jeanfabrice> Updated WL500g Deluxe to use latest ethernet module, removed closed source binaries
May 12 12:58:27 <jeanfabrice> both wileyhdd and wileyg running file with it for 1 hour now
May 12 13:01:54 <ka6sox-lunch> ;)
May 12 13:02:02 <ka6sox-lunch> this is good.
May 12 13:34:35 <bofh_omega> hi, I've got a little problem with bitbake building flex
May 12 13:34:44 <bofh_omega> install: cannot stat `flex': No such file or directory <- log message
May 12 13:35:09 <bofh_omega> NOTE: package flex-native-2.5.31-r2: task do_fetch: completed
May 12 13:35:10 <bofh_omega> NOTE: package flex-native-2.5.31-r2: task do_populate_staging: started
May 12 13:35:10 <bofh_omega> ERROR: function do_stage failed
May 12 13:35:53 <bofh_omega> does anyone in here have an idea whats going wrong or can point me in the right direction plz ;)
May 12 13:42:53 <bofh_omega> ping
May 12 13:45:08 <jacques> bofh_omega, flex is not downloading correctly
May 12 13:45:23 <jacques> manually download it and put it in the sources or downloads dir
May 12 13:45:35 <bofh_omega> do_fetch: completed <- bug? thanks for the help
May 12 13:45:40 <jacques> depending on if you're building from bk or svn
May 12 13:45:52 <jacques> sf.net is returning a HTML page
May 12 13:45:58 <jacques> so wget does not exit abnormally
May 12 13:46:16 <bofh_omega> k, thanks that explains it ;)
May 12 13:46:21 <jacques> if there is a bug it's in oe since it does not detect that the downloaded file is not a tarball
May 12 13:47:59 <ka6sox-office> bofh_omega, its available from nslu.sf.net/downloads/
May 12 13:48:36 <bofh_omega> ka6sox-office: thx
May 12 14:00:44 <CIA-1> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Promote wiley-feeds for Wiley
May 12 14:03:24 <bofh_omega> um bad news. got flex package from your site. copied it to the sources dir made md5sum file but got the same error
May 12 14:04:03 <ka6sox-office> permissions?
May 12 14:05:09 <bofh_omega> -rw-r--r--
May 12 14:05:23 <bofh_omega> (same as any other file)
May 12 14:05:54 <jacques> stamps?
May 12 14:07:56 <bofh_omega> sorry don't know what your talking about
May 12 14:08:16 <bofh_omega> or better where to take a look :)
May 12 14:08:55 <ka6sox-office> rm -rf tmp works.
May 12 14:09:05 <ka6sox-office> then restart
May 12 14:09:32 <bofh_omega> find / -name "*stamps*" solved my problem  ;)
May 12 14:09:37 <bofh_omega> thanks anyway
May 12 14:10:05 <jacques> bofh_omega, so you're past it now?
May 12 14:10:09 <NAiL> jeanfabrice: about that wileyware update.. That uClibc timezones patch.. What does it do?
May 12 14:10:12 <bofh_omega> rm ./build/tmp/stamps/flex-native-2.5.31-r2.do_*
May 12 14:10:18 <jacques> yeah
May 12 14:10:38 <bofh_omega> just a moment please my machine is a bit slow ;)
May 12 14:11:01 <bofh_omega> um and me is not as fast at typeing as I could be ;)
May 12 14:12:55 <jeanfabrice> NAiL: dunno. 
May 12 14:12:57 <bofh_omega> looks much better now (I'm going to be past flex soon)
May 12 14:13:04 <jacques> great
May 12 14:13:10 <bofh_omega> done
May 12 14:15:17 <jeanfabrice> NAiL: maybe related to this issue : http://forum.chupa.info/showthread.php?t=2332
May 12 14:28:03 <[g2]> rwhitby, morning sunshine !
May 12 14:28:56 <rwhitby> morning
May 12 14:41:36 <bofh_omega> gtg hope the build is done tomorrow ;) have a nice day
May 12 14:42:25 <dyoung> I need a new toy.
May 12 14:43:35 <ka6sox-office> um...why?
May 12 14:43:47 <ka6sox-office> your new wiley will be here on Monday now :P
May 12 14:43:54 <rwhitby> dyoung: got the neuston clone yet?
May 12 14:43:59 <ka6sox-office> they backordered it and it is shipping tommorrow.
May 12 14:44:30 <dyoung> Oh yeah, I was gonna give amazon one last chance.
May 12 14:44:39 <dyoung> then go to skunkworks.
May 12 14:44:57 <ka6sox-office> what are you trying to get from Amazon?
May 12 14:46:02 <dyoung> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001H2APA/ref=ord_cart_shr/103-7197493-1690210?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A1VC38T7YXB528&v=glance
May 12 14:46:28 <rwhitby> dyoung: http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-33261/
May 12 14:46:34 <rwhitby> (includes episode list)
May 12 14:47:31 <dyoung> I get a message saying they are having techinical difficulties so to go away.
May 12 14:48:03 <ka6sox-office> must be your "country" is on the "list"
May 12 14:59:15 <jeanfabrice> good night all
May 12 15:04:44 <jf-asleep> rwhitby: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1200624&group_id=1&atid=200001 (cvs repos cleanup assigned)
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May 12 21:02:55 <Machiavelli> Good morning
May 12 21:03:15 <macsat> I getter remember to change my nick today :)
May 12 21:03:33 <macsat> rwhitby, did you get to check if the build-environment guide looked ok ?
May 12 21:05:03 <rwhitby> yeah, it looked good tome
May 12 21:07:30 <macsat> great
May 12 21:07:58 <macsat> once I get some time, I will look into makine a new one, explaining a bit about the files in th build environment
May 12 21:08:08 <macsat> maby trying to walk through a .mk file 
May 12 21:08:36 <macsat> a bit busy at work theese days though :-(
May 12 21:16:19 <macsat> cul
May 12 21:19:15 <dyoung-web> morning christopher
May 12 21:19:30 <Christopher> hi
May 12 22:55:19 * dyoung-web mumbles someting about Chicken Pot Pie
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