**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 12 23:59:56 2005 May 13 00:19:40 morning ! May 13 00:39:05 03jbowler * r39 10/trunk/openslug/ (4 files in 4 dirs): May 13 00:39:05 Makefile fix from 1.10-beta (fix the flex pre-download) May 13 00:39:05 Fix for mount -at nonfs,... (the mount option used in /etc/init.d/mountall.sh) May 13 00:39:05 Fix verified in the OpenEmbedded BitKeeper source but not yet verified in the May 13 00:39:05 SVN tree. May 13 01:29:00 I'm seeing a lock on the nslu2-linux.bkbits.net repo - in fact I have a bk push going which is just looping trying to get the lock. Anyone know what's happening? May 13 01:36:30 probably just someone on a slow line checking it out May 13 01:36:42 I can force an unlock May 13 01:40:08 The curious thing is that 'bk pull' seemed fine, it's only 'bk push' which caused a problem - 'bk send' seemed ok too, so it looked like a write lock. May 13 01:44:59 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/make/quagga.mk: Update quagga : adduser dependency, additional routing daemon enabled May 13 01:45:48 Ah, ok, I understand. multiple-read-single-write. That's fine, I'll leave it for half an hour - the important checkin went into the SVN trunk above. May 13 01:46:21 no locks now May 13 01:49:30 thanks: that change is in bk now too. I've got it building on the SVN trunk May 13 01:52:35 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/sources/quagga/ (postinst rc.quagga): Update quagga : adduser dependency, additional routing daemon enabled May 13 02:05:40 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/ (sources/eggdrop/rc.eggdrop make/eggdrop.mk): fixed grep search for adduser not to be fool by the presence of an eggdropifullyou user; bumped IPK_VERSION May 13 02:08:21 humm... May 13 02:18:44 hi @ all May 13 02:21:51 hi May 13 03:10:30 03jbowler * r40 10/releases/OpenSlug-1.11-beta/: OpenSlug 1.11 beta release. May 13 03:28:20 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/Makefile: Promote python for wiley May 13 05:44:17 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/ (Makefile sources/libbt/random.c.patch make/libbt.mk): Trying seed48 patch on libbt to have it compile/run on wiley. Promote libbt and torrent for Wiley May 13 08:05:20 bbl (from work) May 13 09:02:07 Hi May 13 09:02:18 :-) May 13 11:21:14 anyone in here awake ? May 13 11:21:28 ...anyone with cross-compile experience ? :-) May 13 11:22:53 would one eye open qualify? May 13 11:23:52 I hope so ;-) May 13 11:23:56 moment May 13 11:24:23 I get something like : May 13 11:24:28 nu rule to make target May 13 11:24:31 nu=no May 13 11:24:53 on a package I tried to compile once, where it failed...I changed the .mk file, and now this... May 13 11:27:06 didn't get the whole problem but you makefile is buggy ;) /me thinks you knew this already *smile* May 13 11:27:52 hmm...yeah May 13 11:28:24 Just not a lot of debugging info: make: *** No rule to make target `hpijs-ipk'. Stop. May 13 11:29:06 there should be something like hpijs-ipk: *.c May 13 11:29:12 in your makefile May 13 11:29:25 at the beginning of the new line May 13 11:29:41 if not you've tweaked too much May 13 11:29:49 or made a type anywhere May 13 11:30:01 type/typo May 13 11:32:19 I'd like to compile ppp-dsl for my unslung image. (the image was created with openembedded) but I can't figure out how to do this (too much automatism for poor /me) May 13 11:33:09 anyone any idea/link/flames? May 13 11:35:12 you mean if I know the basics on how to compile a package ? May 13 11:35:22 I think so, but am on very early stages here :) May 13 11:39:30 bofh_omega, i think i can help answer some of the questions re: cross compiling May 13 11:47:33 anyway, seems you're gone May 13 11:49:42 bye eno-away May 13 11:53:16 eno-away: sry have to do some rl work May 13 11:53:24 brb May 13 11:56:05 rl work gets in the way. May 13 12:22:15 anyone: what's the standard way for adding automatic mounting of extra drives (e.g. FAT32 drives) at boot time for unslung? May 13 12:22:42 should I be creating an rc.local in /unsling or should I put a script in /opt/etc/init.d ? May 13 12:23:02 I'm still on Unslung 3.1x May 13 12:23:42 looking...I always get fstab,mtab,mounttab confused May 13 12:23:53 I think its mounttab though. May 13 12:24:43 its in fstab. May 13 12:25:01 and you can mount it auto and it will mount May 13 12:26:31 hmmm but the unslung build won't pick that up will it? May 13 12:26:53 ah..for unslung.. May 13 12:27:06 been spending too much time with openslug. May 13 12:27:09 yeah ... :-) May 13 12:33:06 is the unslung init that broken? May 13 12:33:58 if it is I'd prefer rc.local (quick) or init.d/SXXmountvfat (clean) May 13 12:37:27 * bofh_omega is back with some time and 'll try the ppp-dsl compilation again May 13 12:46:51 do we need an optware start-stop-demon : http://www.annodex.net/cgi-bin/man/man2html?start-stop-daemon+8 ? May 13 12:48:59 hi May 13 12:49:54 jeanfabrice: isn't it better (smaller) to do such tasks with a bit of shell scripting? May 13 12:50:10 Hi pTweety May 13 12:50:36 !seen NAiL May 13 12:50:37 the answer to your question is I've no use for it but it may be nice to have one ;) May 13 12:50:47 and hi pTweety May 13 12:50:51 I was off for some days. Any news about unslung 4.xx? May 13 12:51:08 RSN.... May 13 12:51:23 putting final touches on it. May 13 12:51:28 bofh_omega: what type off shell scripting ? May 13 12:52:01 ka6sox: do we have 20 alpha tester? May 13 12:52:05 (coz my scripting skill level is pretty low) May 13 12:52:31 pidof xxx > file ; kill `cat file` May 13 12:52:36 something like that May 13 12:52:44 pTweety, I think so..but its 20 current (or close to current ones May 13 12:53:04 first is start-daemon second is stop daemon May 13 12:54:11 urgs May 13 12:54:16 ka6sox: the new feed, oe, only has kernel-module-* inside but the Packages file list a lot more. Is that already known? May 13 12:54:34 have to leave again / need a file system check on a baaaad HD :\ May 13 12:54:38 see you later May 13 12:55:03 are you looking at ipkgfind? May 13 12:55:16 ipkg upgrade May 13 12:55:36 oh... May 13 12:55:38 that gives some packages that are not provided by the feed May 13 12:55:41 thats a "dunno May 13 12:55:43 " May 13 12:56:00 that is a jp30 question. May 13 12:56:22 ahh, he's already maintaining the oe-feed? May 13 12:56:37 pTweety, you are refering to unslung packages or the unslung ones? May 13 12:56:57 oops May 13 12:57:01 that was clear as mud May 13 12:57:08 unslung or openslug. May 13 12:57:20 unslung packages in the feeds/unslung/oe folder May 13 12:57:22 mud! mud? did someone call me by my wife's name for me? May 13 12:57:38 ByronT, :-) May 13 12:57:46 only if you don't get that grass cut! May 13 13:04:30 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Promote ipkg for wiley May 13 13:06:48 does nohup command exist on slug ? I don't have it on wiley. May 13 13:07:22 It seems that we already have a unslung-4.20-beta on sf (but only the README and source atm) May 13 13:11:37 we're getting close... ;) ;) May 13 13:13:05 jeanfabrice: yes, package coreutils May 13 13:13:30 caplink811: do you mean start-stop daemons is in coreutils ? May 13 13:14:15 jeanfabrice: [root@linus bin]$ ls -la no* May 13 13:14:15 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13908 May 7 20:57 nohup May 13 13:14:24 oh, sorry ;) ty May 13 13:20:38 ptweety, I think you are confused about the ipkg directory structure. May 13 13:21:01 yes May 13 13:21:14 feeds/unslung/oe refers to things that are built using oe (as opposed to optware), therefore those are ONLY kernel modules. May 13 13:21:49 that's fine. But the Packages file in this feed seems to include all oe packages May 13 13:21:56 feeds/unslung/cross are cross packages comp[iled using the unslung bulid system. May 13 13:22:17 feeds/unslung/native are packages compiled native because they have to be. May 13 13:23:26 jeanfabrice: according to http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/result.php?query=nohup&searchtype=file§ion= May 13 13:23:53 nohup is in coreutils and gets installed to /usr/bin May 13 13:23:57 pTweety, I just looked at it right now, it includes all oe the oe packages that are used for the creation of the unslung image. May 13 13:24:30 some are for "internal use only" but still end up in the Packages file. Thats a feature not a bug. May 13 13:25:33 ;-) May 13 13:25:33 jstueve: I did not think about searching in ipkgfind. ty. torrent package should depends on coreutils as it calls nohup May 13 13:25:41 re May 13 13:26:38 dyoung, have you already tried an `ipkg upgrade`with unslung 4.xx? That is looking strange. May 13 13:28:02 it gives you several errors like this one: May 13 13:28:03 ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-ewdba2 http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/oe/findutils_4.1.20-r1_armeb.ipk' May 13 13:28:53 does anyone have an wrt54G? I just bought one to replace/add on to my belkin router, and wondered if/how well it works. May 13 13:29:15 pTweety: try a ping www.google.com please May 13 13:29:45 PING www.l.google.com (66.249.85.104): 56 data bytes May 13 13:29:45 64 bytes from 66.249.85.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=39.6 ms May 13 13:29:55 k, next please May 13 13:29:57 pTweety: yeah, i can verifiy this behaviour May 13 13:30:28 caplink811, to be honest I would call it a bug May 13 13:30:33 --22:15:55-- http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/oe/findutils_4.1.20-r1_armeb.ipk May 13 13:30:36 => `findutils_4.1.20-r1_armeb.ipk' May 13 13:30:39 Verbindungsaufbau zu 127.0.0.1:3128... verbunden. May 13 13:30:41 Proxy Anforderung gesendet, warte auf Antwort... 404 Not Found May 13 13:30:44 22:15:56 FEHLER 404: Not Found. May 13 13:30:50 bofh_omega: unslung or oe? May 13 13:30:50 is this only in 4.20 or in what versions? May 13 13:31:02 my workstation May 13 13:31:05 ka6sox, I still on 4.19 May 13 13:31:08 ka6sox: unslung 4.19 alpha May 13 13:31:22 just pasted you url and tried to get it with wget May 13 13:31:31 typo or host is down May 13 13:31:37 okay so this might be 4.19 related. May 13 13:32:06 there are sources for 4.20 up on sf.net can you please build those? May 13 13:32:36 we are working on a binary release (beta) and if this is a bug we sure wouldn't want to put that out. May 13 13:32:59 ka6sox, what do I need to build the sources, oe build system? May 13 13:33:10 pTweety: your part, i have no build environment May 13 13:33:24 oe build system. May 13 13:33:27 and bitbake May 13 13:33:48 ups, this is what I do not have yet May 13 13:35:08 its in the wiki. May 13 13:35:31 I'm already looking for it ;-) May 13 13:35:43 k May 13 13:37:32 ka6sox: sorry, first I have to get ppp-dsl working. But it's not a bug. The file is just not where it belongs. May 13 13:40:03 bofh_omega: no, I think that the file should not be in this feed and therefore the Packages file should be recreated to fit the current contents May 13 13:42:18 pTweety: agree, cause in the native list findutils refers to version 4.1.20-3 and in the oe list to 4.1.20-r1, and so an uodate should take 4.1.20-3 imho May 13 13:42:54 k, got it May 13 13:43:24 sigh. May 13 13:43:42 don't panic ;) May 13 13:43:47 a 404 is NOT a firmware problem. May 13 13:45:58 that obvious ;)= May 13 13:46:04 +'s May 13 13:49:20 ok, you guys should have just said that in the first place. May 13 13:49:31 someone will look at it later. May 13 13:49:43 Right now your package release manager is on travel. May 13 13:51:48 dyoung, right. But unfortunately my english is not the best :-(( May 13 13:52:11 we'll forgive you... *this* time May 13 13:52:16 ;) May 13 13:53:04 pew May 13 13:54:22 where can I define which packages are build if I type bitbake unslung-image? May 13 13:54:43 ah well, thisll do for now May 13 13:54:53 * dyoung hides May 13 13:55:04 (I'd like to add ppp-dsl but don't find the right file) May 13 13:55:05 kergoth, I'd hand ya a beer, but I'm all out May 13 13:55:09 bofh_omega: you just did. typing bitbake unslung-image is telling bitbake to build the unslung-image package. May 13 13:55:21 if you're asking how to add something _to the image_, that's different. May 13 13:55:58 hmm, would be good if it's in the image right from the start. May 13 13:56:03 but I didn' May 13 13:56:18 * kergoth kicks the gaim irc client May 13 13:56:43 t get that I can build every package on its own and transfer it as ipkg May 13 13:57:03 that'll do it for now May 13 13:58:19 but just to be curious. How would I add this package directly to the image file? May 13 14:00:41 kergoth, how are those zecke bitbake patches looking? May 13 14:01:24 hi llagendiijk ;) May 13 14:01:51 hi, that's really much quicker reaction then I expected :-) May 13 14:01:51 dyoung: i haven't had a chance to review them. been occupied with preparing for my much delayed move May 13 14:02:00 dyoung: but the response from others who've played with it is quite good May 13 14:02:01 llagendiijk is our quagga optware creator, from chupa forum. May 13 14:02:04 dyoung: hoping to review them tonight May 13 14:02:48 Cool. I hope your move goes smooth this time. May 13 14:03:38 well, the moving company actually sent me the damn paperwork this time, so thats a start. missed the last truck since they didnt send it May 13 14:03:41 heh May 13 14:03:59 I read bits of that in #oe. That was pretty messed up. May 13 14:05:27 jeanfabrice, I just started looking at your changes to quagga. Is required to use /opt/var for /var/run? May 13 14:07:26 llagendiijk: things aren't really clear on this point . looking at other package, it seems this is the convention yes. Is that because it's easier to have them under /var and then flushed at each reboot ? May 13 14:07:57 is it possible to use both CPUs on a SMP machine with bitbake? May 13 14:08:26 (anywhere a possiblity to add an -j3 to the make options) May 13 14:09:27 hmmm, personal preference: I like to separate stable filesystems that are normally not written to and the true var type that DOES get written. May 13 14:10:18 good practice if you use flash as storage medium May 13 14:11:43 good argument bofh_omega, not a problem for me, as I have a hd mounted there, I was considering using a flash stich May 13 14:16:01 !ping May 13 14:16:05 !pong May 13 14:18:42 llagendiijk: agree, for production server ;) as far as partitionning on wiley is pretty simple, why not mount /opt/var on a thrid partition if you want to monitor growing file system ? May 13 14:19:36 * McTails is fiddling w/ QEMU and OE May 13 14:20:20 when did OpenSlug reach beta? May 13 14:20:36 beta source...binary RSN May 13 14:21:27 Ah May 13 14:21:57 Does OE use uclibc or glibc? May 13 14:22:23 (I want to use Kannel on the slug, but it will not build against uclibc - something about the threads causes it fail misrability) May 13 14:22:24 whichever you want. May 13 14:22:35 ok, no problem. Logging can be done through syslog, so that is not a problem and can be left out completely. /var/run should really be on /var for the reasons bofh_omega mentioned May 13 14:23:03 kergoth: Nice to see you again. I've been trying OE working for two days now May 13 14:23:30 I'm now trying it in QEMU-PPC because I can't install Linux, and it keeps choking on Mac OS X (I have the errors somewhere) May 13 14:26:10 wow, thats really "straight" forward. MAC --> QEMU (Linux) --> CrossCompiler --> Build OE Distri ;) May 13 14:26:28 McTails, I know those errors well. May 13 14:26:47 You can fool it by overriding the arch type (or something) to something same. May 13 14:26:49 bofh_omega: WHen QEMU is used on the same hardware, it acts more as a virtual machine May 13 14:26:49 sane. May 13 14:26:58 dyoung: I got that far May 13 14:27:03 llagendiijk: looking at the other package, it seems that most of them use /opt/var. It appears that optware layout was primary made for slug which have harddrive partition mounted /opt May 13 14:27:03 Mac OS X 10.4 blew it sky high May 13 14:27:21 llagendiijk: and I have also /opt on a harddrive using wileyhdd May 13 14:28:51 llagendiijk: So I guess having /opt/var on a flash stick has not been investigating before May 13 14:29:23 dyoung: Now that I have some free time again (:-)) do you want a co-editor for that news editor of yours? May 13 14:31:24 * McTails prays that he doesn't kernel panic May 13 14:32:17 jeanfabrice: ok, well, let's leave it for now. May 13 14:33:21 Ugh ... May 13 14:33:25 *can't backup it seems* May 13 14:33:53 jeanfabrice: I did find a small problem with the path used: zebra is now trying to set /var/run, and NOT /opt/var/run/quagga. May 13 14:36:07 jeanfabrice: I will send you a patch when I find out what is going on (path is set correctly in the makefile) May 13 14:36:18 llagendiijk: it doesn't follow configure's localstatedir set as /opt/var/run/quagga ? May 13 14:37:18 jeanfabrice: will check (am compiling quagga right now) May 13 14:45:05 * McTails is getting ready for erase and reflash May 13 14:51:11 in package ppp-dsl there is a configure missing befor calling make install (else build fails) I just don't know how to add this to the ppp-dsl.bb file *sigh* May 13 14:51:44 (manual ./configure seems to work...) May 13 14:54:44 jeanfabrice: your package seems to be incorrectly compiled: when I recompile it, it works well May 13 15:04:35 * bofh_omega is tired out gdn8 all May 13 15:28:29 Screw it, trying to build OS isn't worth it May 13 15:34:03 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/make/quagga.mk: dos2unix conversion May 13 15:45:57 what is the quickest way to setup to build a program for the NSLU@? May 13 15:46:32 I had read the wiki about setting up cross compile, but my computer is on gcc 4.0 and the table shows that fails for NSLU CPU May 13 15:47:07 If the cross-compiler itself is GCC 4.0 May 13 15:47:18 YOu can build 3.3 Cross-compiiler w/ a 4.0 native compiler May 13 15:47:45 Failing that, GCC3.3/3.4 can be installed alongside 4.0 May 13 15:47:59 okay...wasn't sure how to interpret that table May 13 15:48:24 I have all of those installed, but not that good at switching between them..first attempt to cross compile anything May 13 15:48:35 Ok, assuming you have the crosscompiler in your path May 13 15:48:47 armv5b-softfloat-linux-gcc is the usual name of it May 13 15:48:58 (it can vary, but it will always start w/ arm) May 13 15:50:05 Your lucky, aleast you can crosscompile easily May 13 15:50:14 Mac OS X + OpenEmbedded = boom May 13 15:50:23 I'm tweaking it w/ QEMu to try and getting it to work May 13 15:50:40 I have that from linksys using the information in Jim Buzbee's first articles...but the compile is failing when I cross and working when I don't May 13 15:51:16 sigh. May 13 15:51:26 Why dont you just use the Unslung build enviornment? May 13 15:51:39 because it's too easy? May 13 15:51:41 it knows to build the crosstool compiler. May 13 15:51:46 * dyoung shrug May 13 15:52:11 I downloaded that, but I couldn't get the makefile edited correctly May 13 15:53:43 there is no configure for the program and I couldn't seem to get the correct lines commented out May 13 15:54:13 so you have the crosstool made. May 13 15:55:01 'nite May 13 15:55:19 so you can go /home/whatever/unslung/toolchain/armv5b-softfloat-linux/gcc-3.3.5-glibc-2.2.5/bin/armv5b-softfloat-linux-gcc someprogram.c ? May 13 15:55:36 I was following the directions from the wiki adding a package...is that not the place to start? May 13 15:55:49 what program is this? May 13 15:55:58 I'll read about it later in the logs. May 13 15:57:48 it is wizd...used to stream files to the IO-DATA Avel Link Player May 13 15:58:37 http://www.geocities.com/flipflop7146/wizd.html May 13 16:32:39 p3pilot: yes, the adding a package to unslung page is correct May 13 16:33:18 you just need to create a wizd.mk May 13 16:33:35 look at other packages that don't have configure for clues May 13 16:37:25 if you have specific questions about creating a wizd.mk, then this is the right place to ask May 13 16:38:18 if you start with something other than the build system we provide, then the first answer to any question is likely to be "Use the build system" :-) May 13 16:38:39 rwhitby-away, thanks. I am make crosstool right now..that should be first right? May 13 16:38:53 yep May 13 16:39:34 I will look for a .mk that doesn't configure then too....it is a little strange setup since a zip file and not a tar, but I think I had that part May 13 16:39:36 and I will be interested in helping you get wizd.mk running :-) May 13 16:40:03 there are other packages using zip I think May 13 16:40:29 great..I just bought this IO-DATA player and I want to run from my NSLU2..I can build on my linux system and run from there,..but not what I want :) May 13 16:40:33 just do a grep of unzip (lower case) in the make directory May 13 16:40:48 I have a Neuston MC 500 May 13 16:41:14 I wanted the KISS DP600, but looks like they will not ship to US May 13 16:42:30 I'll be back in about 4 hours May 13 16:42:42 maybe by then the crosstool will be build :) May 13 16:50:00 make crosstool fails because I have gcc 4.0 installed as my main gcc...I also have 3.4 under /opt...but need to tell it that May 13 16:50:43 ouch lol May 13 16:51:06 4.0 as main is gonna cause you more problems than just that May 13 16:51:40 speaking generaly or nslu2 land? generaly it is working pretty good for me May 13 16:51:50 generally May 13 16:53:41 few programs that have problems, but I switch them to use 3.4....just don't know how to tell crosstool.mk to use 3.4 May 13 16:54:24 what dist you running? May 13 16:54:38 http://www.sourcemage.org May 13 16:54:52 ah May 13 16:55:04 if gentoo I was going to say gcc-config May 13 16:56:10 seems like I should be able to change the Makefile under unslung from gcc to /opt/gcc/bin/gcc May 13 16:56:16 that is what I do for other programs May 13 16:57:44 yeah there are probaqbly several ways to do it May 13 16:57:55 probably some env var in local.conf May 13 16:58:28 trying the unsling/Makefile first...seems the simplest May 13 20:14:27 question: how do you change the IP address in sysconf for openslug? May 13 20:19:47 <[g2]-away> jstueve, after you've booted just change /etc/network/interfaces May 13 20:20:04 <[g2]-away> that's just a 1-shot (after flashing) May 13 22:40:08 03rwhitby * r41 10/trunk/openslug/openembedded/conf/distro/openslug.conf: Bumped the version. May 13 23:08:44 03rwhitby * r42 10/releases/OpenSlug-1.12-beta/: OpenSlug 1.12 beta release **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 13 23:59:56 2005