**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 27 23:59:56 2005
May 28 04:54:19 <[g2]> Jacmet, if you've got serial you should and are trying to run LE I'd get a copy of APEX and build it for LE mode and have it set everything in LE.
May 28 05:26:56 <CIA-1> 03sjmelhuish * 10unslung/make/oww.mk: 
May 28 05:26:57 <CIA-1> Added oww.mk for oww-0.81.4
May 28 05:26:59 <CIA-1> See http://oww.sf.net/
May 28 05:27:26 <dyoung-zzzz> oww!
May 28 05:27:27 <dyoung-zzzz> :-)
May 28 05:37:50 <CIA-1> 03sjmelhuish * 10unslung/Makefile: libghttp and oww ready for cross testing
May 28 06:55:34 <mr_claus> hi
May 28 06:56:02 <mr_claus> i upgraded to 4.20, could i delete the stuff of /share/hdd/conf?
May 28 06:56:17 <dyoung-zzzz> define "stuff" .
May 28 06:56:24 <mr_claus> it seems that all additional configuration stuff is stored at /shared/hdd/data
May 28 06:56:53 <mr_claus> i installed additional packages with 3.18 which were in /share/hdd/conf
May 28 06:57:23 <mr_claus> is /share/hdd/conf is needed anymore?
May 28 06:58:00 <dyoung-zzzz> here is stuff there outside of /share/hdd/conf that is required for linksys functionality.
May 28 06:58:16 <dyoung-zzzz> *there is stuff....
May 28 07:00:37 <mr_claus> before version 4 additional things are installed to /share/hdd/conf i think
May 28 07:01:00 <mr_claus> now it will be stored at /share/hdd/data if i understand the docs
May 28 07:01:55 <mr_claus> but in the docs there is an information that the passwd is stored at /share/hdd/conf, why it was be splitted?
May 28 07:02:06 <mr_claus> which things are on conf and which are on data?
May 28 07:05:36 <dyoung-zzzz> what did yu upgrade from?
May 28 07:05:53 <dyoung-zzzz> in 3.x only opt would be the unslung stuff.
May 28 07:06:13 <mr_claus> i upgraded from 3.18beta
May 28 07:06:28 <dyoung-zzzz> and that passwd file is for linksys compatibility.
May 28 07:06:31 <mr_claus> was /opt not linked to /share/hdd/....?
May 28 07:06:38 <odoc> hi
May 28 07:06:44 <mr_claus> hi odoc 
May 28 07:06:58 <dyoung-zzzz> /opt -> /share/hdd/conf/opt usually.
May 28 07:07:58 <odoc> dyoung-zzzz, you heard something from VoodooZ ?
May 28 07:08:14 <dyoung-zzzz> Nope, I've been kind of out of it lately.
May 28 07:08:18 <odoc> didn't manage to write him an email till now
May 28 07:08:33 <dyoung-zzzz> I think he did decide to get a PWC camera.
May 28 07:08:38 <dyoung-zzzz> from the UK
May 28 07:08:42 <odoc> im out of everything atm ... work ... work ... work
May 28 07:08:49 <dyoung-zzzz> the only USB2 camera AFAHK.
May 28 07:08:58 <mr_claus> ok, so all things were in /share/hdd/conf before, now it's splitted into data and conf right?
May 28 07:09:08 <mr_claus> data contains the things from /opt
May 28 07:09:24 <[g2]> Jacmet, did you see my note earlier about LE ?
May 28 07:10:07 <rwhitby> mr_claus: /share/hdd/conf contains whatever Linksys decides to put in there.  Unslung 4.x puts all it's stuff in /share/hdd/data
May 28 07:10:07 <dyoung-zzzz> mr_claus, yes.
May 28 07:10:27 <mr_claus> so /opt is not needed anymore?
May 28 07:10:32 <dyoung-zzzz> sigh
May 28 07:11:04 <Jacmet> [g2]: yes, but for now I'll just stick to the std redboot - that works fine as well
May 28 07:11:06 <dyoung-zzzz> under 4.x, /opt is on /share/hdd/data by default unless youve done something weird.
May 28 07:11:31 <[g2]> Jacmet, ok, just FYI
May 28 07:11:59 <[g2]> I'd like to play with LE at some point so I may bug you later
May 28 07:12:04 <dyoung-zzzz> if you have no /opt, you have no unslung packages installed.
May 28 07:12:45 <mr_claus> ok, i have run /sbin/slingover disk1 to copy the /opt things into data, but i.e. dropbear was not copied
May 28 07:13:05 <Jacmet> [g2]: no problem - I basically have it working now
May 28 07:13:30 <[g2]> Jacmet, are you running IXP ethernet with the 1.5 libs ?
May 28 07:13:51 <Jacmet> [g2]: E.G. I get to where it tries to mount the root fs
May 28 07:14:00 <Jacmet> [g2]: No, I haven't played with that yet
May 28 07:14:26 <[g2]> Jacmet, OK. I saw that earlier. 
May 28 07:14:31 <mr_claus> hmm, it was copied, it's on /share/hdd/data/opt/etc/dropbear which means it's on /opt/etc/dropbear too
May 28 07:15:03 <[g2]> Jacmet, so you basically have the kernel running in LE mode until mounting the root fs
May 28 07:15:15 <mr_claus> but /share/hdd/data contains bin,home,mnt,initrd,..... too, should it not be in /share/hdd/data/opt?
May 28 07:15:26 <[g2]> I'm just trying to make sure we're using the same terminology
May 28 07:18:21 <rwhitby> mr_claus: no
May 28 07:19:37 <mr_claus> ok, i would like to understand which things should be on what tree stored, is there a doc where it is described?
May 28 07:19:56 <mr_claus> because i.e. i can telnet into my box, but i cannot login with ssh
May 28 07:20:23 <dyoung-zzzz> inspect the unsling and slingover scripts.
May 28 07:20:30 <Jacmet> [g2]: yes
May 28 07:21:07 <[g2]> Jacmet, did you use OE to build or did you roll your own toolchain ?
May 28 07:22:58 <Jacmet> [g2]: I just did used the crosstool one from unslung
May 28 07:23:03 <Jacmet> Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
May 28 07:23:03 <Jacmet> usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
May 28 07:23:03 <Jacmet> usb 1-1: no configurations                                     
May 28 07:23:03 <Jacmet> usb 1-1: can't read configurations, error -22
May 28 07:23:24 <Jacmet> hmm, is there an issue with booting directly from usb without the initrd?
May 28 07:25:35 <mr_claus> dyoung-logger, ok i will do that, thx
May 28 07:25:50 <[g2]> Jacmet, we haven't booted directly to the usb device
May 28 07:26:22 <[g2]> I'd imagine there's a timing issue depending on whether it's disk or flash based
May 28 07:27:10 <[g2]> a year or two ago I booted a P4 off a custom gentoo flash stick and I need to put a wait in there
May 28 07:27:32 <[g2]> it took me several days to hunt the issue down
May 28 07:27:52 <Jacmet> [g2]: ok
May 28 07:28:09 <[g2]> it was a classic timing issue :)  When I ran the commands by hand from the cmdline they worked
May 28 07:28:10 <Jacmet> [g2]: I'll create an initrd then
May 28 07:29:29 <[g2]> Jacmet, so I'm a little confused how you get the box into LE mode from Redboot
May 28 07:29:49 <[g2]> do you have a custom routine that switches from BE to LE ?
May 28 07:31:05 <[g2]> and other than some usb routines I can't imagine why you'd want to run in LE other than LE testing and fun
May 28 07:31:27 <Jacmet> [g2]: well, yes - but it's a oneliner - just like there's an arch/arm/boot/compressed/big-endian.S to set the big endian bit I created a little-endian.S to clear it
May 28 07:31:43 <Jacmet> [g2]: I basically just want to run debian on it ;)
May 28 07:32:13 <[g2]> are you a debian guy ?
May 28 07:32:57 <Jacmet> [g2]: I'm not a debian developer - but I have been using debian for the last 6 years
May 28 07:33:01 <[g2]> and you'll probably be interested in some of the boxes I'm modifying
May 28 07:33:20 <[g2]> I think being a dev is a little overrated :)
May 28 07:33:36 <Jacmet> ;)
May 28 07:33:59 <Jacmet> [g2]: what boxes?
May 28 07:34:00 <[g2]> The RV082 mods will be an IXP425 @533 with 128 or 256 MB
May 28 07:34:32 <Jacmet> neat
May 28 07:34:45 <[g2]> Early next week I'll get 1st articles of modded NSLU2's with 64MB
May 28 07:34:56 <[g2]> plus serial header and jtag header
May 28 07:35:15 <Jacmet> sounds nice
May 28 07:35:30 <[g2]> Then I'll try bumping the memory to 128MB
May 28 07:35:46 <[g2]> The 64MB is pretty should be pretty much a gimme
May 28 07:36:01 <[g2]> I'm running 64MB on an IXP422 OEM board
May 28 07:36:32 <Jacmet> [g2]: Yes, 64MB should be pretty easy to get going
May 28 07:55:21 <mr_claus> i tried to login with ssh and have two problems
May 28 07:55:38 <mr_claus> 1. the password which is asked is not the same as the telnet password
May 28 07:56:05 <mr_claus> i changed the root password in my telnet session but the ssh connection is validating uNSLUng as root password
May 28 07:56:24 <mr_claus> 2. [803] May 28 16:01:01 syslogin_perform_logout: logout(ttyp1) returned an error: No such file or directory
May 28 08:02:37 <CIA-1> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Fixed typo in gift-opennap for wl500g.
May 28 08:04:35 <CIA-1> 03sjmelhuish * 10unslung/make/rrdtool.mk: RRDtool - native build only. Issue with install names.
May 28 08:05:52 <CIA-1> 03sjmelhuish * 10unslung/make/libart.mk: libart - RRDtool dependency. Native build only.
May 28 08:23:11 <mr_claus> anybody is using nslu2 with pam and pam_ldap?
May 28 08:23:18 <sjmelhuish> Hi. Could anyone help me out with an issue on rrdtool, please?
May 28 08:23:18 <sjmelhuish> It's prefixing the binaries with "armv5b-softfloat-linux-" when it builds the ipk.
May 28 08:23:18 <sjmelhuish> I can't see where this is coming in. (This is with a native build)
May 28 08:24:23 <sjmelhuish> Build output at: http://oww.sourceforge.net/rrdtool_build_log.txt
May 28 08:47:39 <[BioK]> hi
May 28 08:47:43 <[BioK]> someone can help me ?
May 28 08:47:55 <[BioK]> i have unslugged but and does unslig but i should missed something
May 28 08:48:03 <[BioK]> when nothing attached i can login as root
May 28 08:48:10 <[BioK]> when something attached i can't
May 28 08:48:22 <[BioK]> look like is not normal what i should do wrong ?
May 28 09:10:50 <[BioK]> ipkg: Couldnt write
May 28 09:10:50 <[BioK]> #
May 28 09:10:57 <[BioK]> someone can help with that ? now im root it owkr
May 28 09:10:59 <[BioK]> work
May 28 09:26:57 <jp30> sjmelhuish, ping?
May 28 09:29:09 <CIA-1> 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (make/libart.mk sources/libart/art_config.h): fix libart for cross-compilation
May 28 09:40:06 <sjmelhuish> Hi jp30
May 28 09:40:28 <[g2]> sjmelhuish, I'm very interested in what your are doing with rddtool
May 28 09:40:48 <sjmelhuish> It's a useful tool
May 28 09:40:49 <[g2]> I"m planning on doing something quite similar on OpenSlug 
May 28 09:41:23 <[g2]> I've been working with jbowler and dyoung to get the NTP kinks worked out first
May 28 09:41:24 <[BioK]> geez ipkg: write: No space left on device i have 80 gigs left
May 28 09:41:28 <[BioK]> what the problem ! ;?
May 28 09:41:49 <[g2]> I was thinking about running cacti on the other end
May 28 09:42:10 <[g2]> [BioK], probably on the wrong device :)
May 28 09:42:25 <[BioK]> [g2] im cd /share/hdd/opt
May 28 09:43:08 <[g2]> [BioK], I'm an OpenSlug guys so I'm not super familiar with Unslung
May 28 09:43:15 <[BioK]> ok
May 28 09:43:17 <jp30> hi, sjmelhuish, i think it should be possible to get rrdtool to cross-compile
May 28 09:43:26 <[g2]> but "df" is your friend
May 28 09:43:44 <sjmelhuish> Yes, cacti looks good. But I've not got into it yet. I've done my own php for rrdtool stuff so far.
May 28 09:43:57 <[g2]> [BioK], and see with "dest" is pointing in /etc/ipkg.conf
May 28 09:44:15 <[g2]> sjmelhuish, are you a php guy ?
May 28 09:44:31 <sjmelhuish> Ok Josh. Just getting your libart update
May 28 09:44:40 <[BioK]> ok gonna take a look on that cause /sda1 is really mounted at good place
May 28 09:45:14 <sjmelhuish> g2 - not much of one. Just crude hacks to make some pages that plot stuff for the students at work
May 28 09:45:27 <jp30> sjm, libart was trivial to get to cross compile - though its author does need to be boxed on the ears for not using autoconf properly
May 28 09:45:54 <jp30> ...it was just a matter of storing a pre-generated art_config.h
May 28 09:46:37 <[BioK]> [g2] there is not ipkg.conf in /etc/ipkg/ i have arch.conf       cross-feed.conf native-feed.conf oe-feed.conf
May 28 09:46:43 <[BioK]> but none of em point elsewhere
May 28 09:46:58 <jp30> rrdtool looks like it should just need to have some ac cache variables put in the environment
May 28 09:48:11 <sjmelhuish> Ok - so you just re-generate art_config.h natively, as and when there's likely to be some change?
May 28 09:51:21 <jp30> yes - do you have a reason to think it likely to change in future versions?
May 28 09:52:09 <[BioK]> even ipkg update give me ipkg: Couldnt write
May 28 09:53:17 <jp30> sjm, i have trouble building oww. the official build machine doesn't have XML::Parser
May 28 09:53:29 <jp30> ...is there any way you can build oww without it?
May 28 09:54:51 <sjmelhuish> looks at art_config.h - no I guess it's pretty trivial. I'll commit that.
May 28 09:56:31 <sjmelhuish> XML::Parser - that's odd. I'll try to see where that's coming from. I'm surprised it wants it.
May 28 09:58:25 <jp30> seems to be to do with intltool
May 28 10:01:51 <sjmelhuish> Ok Josh, I'll look at that.
May 28 10:02:13 <sjmelhuish> Just got called away for dinner! Catch you all later.
May 28 10:02:22 <jp30> bfn
May 28 10:02:26 <[g2]> sjmelhuish, THX for stopping by :)
May 28 10:02:40 <sjmelhuish> Bye
May 28 10:06:44 <[BioK]> argg damnnit
May 28 10:13:33 <caplink811_away> [BioK]: so we shpuld step over to #nslu2-general, where you're question is on topic
May 28 10:13:54 <caplink811_away> s/shpuld/should
May 28 10:55:29 <jp30> macsat, can you give me some advice on setting up unslung on my wiley?
May 28 10:56:52 <CIA-1> 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/rrdtool.mk: fix rrdtool for cross-compilation (hopefully)
May 28 11:05:53 <copperbeech> anyone got 2 secs to answer a basic shell scripting question?
May 28 11:06:27 <copperbeech> I have a fie full of urls separated by new lines and I want to use wget to download each of them one by one.
May 28 11:06:40 <copperbeech> I guess it should be something like:
May 28 11:06:56 <copperbeech> wget < urls.list
May 28 11:07:14 <copperbeech> but I'm not sure I should be looking at a << instead.
May 28 11:07:21 <copperbeech> the above certainly doesn't work.
May 28 11:08:17 <jp30> have you tried the --input-file / -i option to wget
May 28 11:08:43 <jp30> ...info wget for details
May 28 11:09:43 <CIA-1> 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote libghttp, demote oww (pending attention from its author)
May 28 11:10:18 <glc> while read URL
May 28 11:10:19 <glc> do
May 28 11:10:25 <copperbeech> bonus! Could I have done it with the input file redirection function - just out of interest?
May 28 11:10:29 <glc>   wget $USL
May 28 11:10:46 <copperbeech> (the -i option is great job)
May 28 11:10:49 <glc> done < theurlfile
May 28 11:24:48 <llagendijk> jp30, what do you want to know about setting up wiley?
May 28 11:26:04 <llagendijk> jp30, I have it running here, and I am doing some dev work for it too (quagga)
May 28 11:28:03 <jp30> hi, llagendijk. i'm having trouble getting my flash key to be mounted on /opt at boot
May 28 11:28:30 <jp30> ... let me just try rebooting the wiley and look at what is going wrong with it
May 28 11:30:54 <jp30> ok, here's what's happening: i followed macsat's instructions to make a post-boot script, but my flash key always ends up mounted on /tmp/harddisk, rather than /opt
May 28 11:31:15 <llagendijk> jp30, have you made post-boot executable?
May 28 11:31:51 <jp30> doh! i was sure i did, but it's not. let's see if that helps
May 28 11:32:16 <llagendijk> and did you save it? (flashfs save; flashfs commit; flashfs enable)
May 28 11:33:02 <jp30> ok, trying another reboot
May 28 11:33:43 <jp30> glorious, it's working
May 28 11:33:53 <jp30> thanks, llagendijk
May 28 11:34:21 <llagendijk> jp30, I found the problem on your own machine with quagga, am now working on correctly determining whether IPv6 is enabled in (uc)libc
May 28 11:34:55 <jp30> good, that sounds promising
May 28 11:35:12 <llagendijk> I will only check the changes in when I'm done (have been on a short holiday this week, so it may take a bit more time)
May 28 11:35:28 <llagendijk> jp30, talk to you later
May 28 11:35:58 <jp30> ok, i'll look forward to seeing them.  bye for now
May 28 15:52:24 <CIA-8> 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote oww, py-clips
May 28 15:56:03 <rwhitby-asleep> jp30: is that "clips" or "py-clips" ?
May 28 15:58:09 <rwhitby-asleep> cause the mk file is py-clips, but there seems to be a sources/clips dir - the latter should be sources/py-clips
May 28 16:03:10 <jp30> hi, rwhitby
May 28 16:03:16 <jp30> hmm... will look at that
May 28 16:03:30 <rwhitby-asleep> jp30: never mind - seems there is a normal clips.mk too
May 28 16:03:33 <rwhitby-asleep> false alarm
May 28 16:04:52 <jp30> ah good, i suspected as much when i saw that py-clips.mk doesn't reference source/clips
May 28 16:05:17 <jp30> also it is by eno, who knows what he's doing
May 28 16:09:48 <rwhitby-asleep> indeed - eno is a package generating MACHINE!
May 28 16:11:31 <CIA-8> 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/libart.mk: libart cross-compilation take 2
May 28 16:39:57 <eno> hi, i saw you guys are discussing clips & py-clips
May 28 16:40:17 <eno> ideally, we should have py-clips depends on clips
May 28 16:40:48 <eno> but py-clips references clips source right now, and clips is not ready for testing yet
May 28 16:41:01 <rwhitby> eno: apologies for jumping to the wrong conclusion - I saw py-clips.mk updated and something happen in sources/clips, and jumped to a wrong conclusion ....
May 28 16:41:25 <eno> i'm working on clips.mk
May 28 16:41:35 <eno> it compiles and builds just fine
May 28 16:41:49 <eno> just not using shared lib
May 28 16:42:04 <jp30> hi, eno, sounds like you have it under control - need any help with the shared lib issue?
May 28 16:43:02 <eno> i'm looking at debian's packaging as a reference, should not be big problem making it shared lib based
May 28 16:43:22 <eno> i may also submit a monolithic version for testing first
May 28 16:43:56 <eno> since it's working fine
May 28 16:44:25 <eno> i ordered my 2nd slug yesterday
May 28 16:44:52 <jp30> i just received a wl500gx. unfortunately it's got the bad bootloader bug
May 28 16:45:10 <rwhitby> jp30: you know how to update the bootloader?
May 28 16:45:17 <rwhitby> I did so when I got mine
May 28 16:45:33 <jp30> you need a windows box, right?
May 28 16:46:21 <jp30> no proprietary software in my house
May 28 16:46:49 <rwhitby> do it at work ? ;-)
May 28 16:47:38 <rwhitby-away> back later
May 28 16:47:44 <jp30> bfn
May 28 16:48:46 <eno> jp30, have you tried to get xvnc working on nslu2?
May 28 16:49:09 <jp30> no, i'd like to see it done, though
May 28 16:49:23 <dyoung-zzzz> is there a reference and symptom for this bad bootloader bug?
May 28 16:51:14 <jp30> one symptom is the gx doesn't know it has 32MB RAM; another problem is that it brings up the ethernet ports in an insecure state at boot. will find a url for you...
May 28 16:51:36 <dzlabing> i've installed asterisk on the slug: works, but how powerfull is that device for that pbx - strong enough as a home-pbx, or it just a "proof of concept"?
May 28 16:53:03 <jp30> dyoung, http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=1704
May 28 16:53:07 <dyoung-zzzz> so if cat /proc/meminfo shows me 30M, its okay?
May 28 16:53:44 <jp30> dyoung, no, some wileys have one problem but not the other
May 28 16:54:36 <dyoung-zzzz> I see, apparently I have the WAN port proble,
May 28 16:57:18 <jp30> dzlabing, cdoban@users.sf.net might be able to tell you more about asterisk, he contributed it
May 28 16:59:34 <[g2]> dzlabing, you've got asterisk running on the slug ?
May 28 17:03:25 <dzlabing> g2, installed, started, moved the sample configs from the sample folder to /etc/asterisk, restarted, and it seemed to work, but i did not intensive testing, nor did i put "my" asterisk-configuration onto the box to compare it with my normal asterisk-server which is a via ezra running at 800 mhz
May 28 17:04:06 <[g2]> dzlabing, so you are familiar with asterisk then :)
May 28 17:05:40 <rwhitby-away> shouldn't that be /opt/etc/asterisk?
May 28 17:05:50 <dzlabing> g2, i am playing with it, but the software is rather complex, and there are so many things which could be done
May 28 17:05:58 <rwhitby-away> dyoung-zzzz: the bootloader update is pretty painless
May 28 17:06:26 * rwhitby-away is amazed at the number of sluggers who now have wileys too ...
May 28 17:06:28 <dzlabing> sorry, /opt/etc/asterisk
May 28 17:06:51 <rwhitby-away> np, just checking
May 28 17:07:20 * [g2] thinks this is only the beginning :)
May 28 17:07:48 <[g2]> rwhitby-away, how big is the wiley contingent  ?
May 28 17:09:07 <rwhitby-away> dunno - they have no tracking of downloads like us
May 28 17:09:28 <rwhitby-away> I guess you could look at the number of members on wl500g.info forums ...
May 28 17:10:01 <rwhitby-away> but not all of them would be using custom firmware
May 28 17:10:28 <dzlabing> gcc-3.3.5/gcc/fold-const.c --bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; is this just my problem with the crosschain, or is this something more serious (i used the unslung CVS for the script)
May 28 17:10:52 <rwhitby-away> sounds like your download was truncated
May 28 17:11:33 <rwhitby-away> 2557 members of wl500g.info
May 28 17:13:24 <rwhitby-away> seems that the combination of a wl500gx and a slug is a good combination for developers ...
May 28 17:14:09 <dzlabing> any idea where the temporary file could be, at least no in the current tree, because i removed it and got it from cvs again.
May 28 20:45:35 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/clips.mk sources/clips/makefile.patch): clips ready for cross testing
May 28 20:46:00 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ccxstream.mk: Fixed the download location.
May 28 21:42:35 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/eaccelerator.mk: Fixed the download location.
May 28 21:44:36 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/freetype.mk: Fixed the download location.
May 28 21:45:42 <rwhitby-away> Package developers: you should be using http://download.sourceforge.net/<package> for sourceforge download locations, not region-specific download locations (which often go offline).
May 28 21:54:39 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/abook.mk: Fixed the download location
May 28 23:13:16 <eno> nite all
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