**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 28 23:59:56 2005 May 29 02:02:11 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/hdparm.mk: New version released. May 29 02:03:06 Hmm - the Unslung gtk package doesn't build for me May 29 02:23:49 macsat: your tutorial collection just keeps getting bigger and better .... May 29 02:24:41 we need to get people to donate enough money so we can send you a slug so that you can write tutorials for the slug too :-) May 29 02:29:21 Unslung iptables package doesn't build either May 29 02:29:48 looks like it needs to be built on a 2.4 kernel host maybe ... it found my 2.6 /usr/src/linux and barfed on it May 29 02:45:03 thanks rwhitby-away :) May 29 02:45:07 Working on adding even more May 29 02:45:44 feel free to send me one m8, and I'll happily adapt some for the NSLU2 as well ;-) May 29 03:00:02 macsat, what tutorial are you responsible for? May 29 03:02:02 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/jikes.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 03:03:00 dzlabing, http://www.macsat.com/wlguide contains my tutorials, but they apply to the ASUS WL-500g, not to the slug May 29 03:03:13 ~google macsat May 29 03:03:16 Google says macsat is at http://www.macsat.com/ or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2927/ or http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/macsat.htm or http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/macsat-1.htm or http://directory.eoportal.org/info_MACSatRazakSat.html May 29 03:03:36 I'd go for the first google hit ;-) May 29 03:03:51 the others is some satellite May 29 03:03:56 just so you can see the picture on the homepage :-) May 29 03:04:38 i see, marvell chipset hacking ;-) May 29 03:05:42 hehe....you are thinking of Tux getting fucked ? ;-) May 29 03:06:16 macsat: this is a PG13 channel ... ;-) May 29 03:06:34 we dont use pg classifications here in denmark, Im sorry ;-) May 29 03:07:00 Actuately the page was originally a site about european satellite hacking, until the European Union made that kind of stuff illegal some years back :) May 29 03:10:45 hmm, why openldap packages without pam_ldap? or is pam_ldap integrated in another package? May 29 03:15:26 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libid3tag.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 03:16:38 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libmad.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 03:17:25 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/madplay.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 03:18:00 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/metalog.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 03:18:37 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/openvpn.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 03:18:51 which nfs server are the best one? there are three available, nfs-server or nfs-utils or unfs3 May 29 03:19:12 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/streamripper.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 03:19:39 nfs-utils is the kernel nfs server May 29 03:19:54 ok, that's all the belnet.dl.sourceforge.net's eradicated May 29 03:20:06 yes, i see in the description May 29 03:20:56 but perhaps you know the advantages of the servers, perhaps one is using less memory, other one have more functions or perhaps oen of them is not stable May 29 03:21:37 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/unfs3.mk: Deprecated it in the description. May 29 03:22:40 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/nfs-server.mk: Deprecated it in the description. May 29 03:23:05 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/nfs-server/control: Deprecated it in the description. May 29 03:29:00 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/lsof.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 03:43:57 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/UnslungFeatures has been updated for Unslung 4.x - comments welcome. May 29 03:44:13 The http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/NewUsersGuide has also been updated. May 29 03:53:54 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/HomePage has now been updated to recommend Unslung 4.x - Unslung 3.x is now deprecated. May 29 04:03:36 is there a ready to use cross-compilation-environment available? May 29 04:05:08 check it out from cvs, and it builds itself. May 29 04:05:15 ok May 29 04:05:41 before i start, nobody is using the nslu2 with libnss-ldap? May 29 04:06:12 on my P4 it takes at least 45min to build the toolchain, so dont panic. May 29 04:09:56 11 hours so far building Optware packages from scratch, and it's only just got to MySQL ... May 29 04:12:30 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded/GettingStarted is up2date? i need bitkeeper right? May 29 04:13:03 are you looking for build firmware or packages, for Unslung or OpenSlug ? May 29 04:13:16 s/looking for/looking to/ May 29 04:13:34 i use unslung and want to build a libnss-ldap package May 29 04:14:10 then that is not the right page May 29 04:14:33 ok, i see May 29 04:14:49 svn checkout svn://svn.berlios.de/unslung/trunk is the right one? May 29 04:15:15 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/Packages -> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/AddAPackageToUnslung May 29 04:16:21 ok, thx May 29 04:20:23 ah, the buildsystems looks like the buildroot of uclibc May 29 04:21:10 uclibc -> openwrt -> unslung packages May 29 04:23:47 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/lsof/control: Fixed the version. May 29 04:25:56 http://www. May 29 04:26:06 i need crosstool to build the cross compiler? May 29 04:26:16 where does it say that? May 29 04:26:27 1) To do a complete build with packages, you will need to get the May 29 04:26:27 crosstool-0.28-rc32 toolchain working. See the wiki for details: May 29 04:26:27 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/CompileCrossTool May 29 04:26:46 which pages is the 1) on ? May 29 04:27:01 README of the unslung dir May 29 04:29:12 03rwhitby * 10unslung/README: Fixed the README. May 29 04:29:27 Fixed. Answer is no - the build system builds the cross-compiler itself. May 29 04:29:54 ok, cool, sometimes it's good to ask before starting :) May 29 04:31:52 and http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/CompileCrossTool has been updated May 29 04:33:47 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ncftp.mk: Fixed the download location (cause the version has been bumped) and removed the patch (it is not needed, cause the .mk file sets the variable before running configure). May 29 05:33:40 Can anyone get to http://www.egenix.com/ - two of the Unslung packages depend on it May 29 05:34:00 not I May 29 05:34:39 I guess not being able to build only 4 packages so far isn't a bad average ... May 29 05:35:43 (two with compile errors, two unable to get sources) May 29 05:36:32 As soon as I can figure out how to make bandwidth management work on the wiley, I can swap out the old WRT. May 29 05:37:46 dyoung-zzzz: did you get the deluxe? May 29 05:46:13 yeah, dlxz May 29 05:46:15 dlx May 29 05:46:40 debating how much space I need for optware packages. May 29 05:48:07 i should be able to free utilityslug for other stuff. May 29 05:51:16 03rwhitby * 10unslung/sources/jamvm/control: Added the zlib dependency. May 29 05:52:44 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/jamvm.mk: Added the zlib dependency and bumped the version. May 29 06:07:14 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/streamripper.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:08:04 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ccxstream.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:08:42 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ctags.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:09:25 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/eaccelerator.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:10:33 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/template.mk: Modified the _SITE template to indicate the preferred sourceforge download site. May 29 06:11:25 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/freetype.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:12:03 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/jikes.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:12:59 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libid3tag.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:13:31 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libmad.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:14:00 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libpng.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:14:36 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/madplay.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:14:49 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/metalog.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:15:13 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/openvpn.mk: Fixed the download location. May 29 06:16:13 phew! May 29 06:16:20 youre a machine. May 29 06:16:20 <[g2]> really ! May 29 06:16:57 <[g2]> dyoung-zzzz, did you just pb_'s comments in #oe about the icache bootload ? May 29 06:16:58 hello everyone! May 29 06:17:08 No, checking. May 29 06:18:13 should i have javac installed before compiling? May 29 06:18:29 i've got a small question about samba together with an usb disk... The windows computers in my network occasionaly "browse" the network, which causes samba to spin up my hdd... even when there's no file activity May 29 06:18:54 [g2] I guess thats someplace to go poking around eh. May 29 06:19:12 <[g2]> well it's cool that someone actually used that in production May 29 06:19:23 <[g2]> it makes total sense to me May 29 06:19:42 <[g2]> but nice to see someone actually got to do that May 29 06:20:03 to me its out of the box thinking. May 29 06:20:16 <[g2]> really ? May 29 06:20:18 but I never knew about private JTAG instructions until a few days ago May 29 06:20:46 I was basing my opinions on SAMPLE/PRELOAD only. May 29 06:20:48 can i prevent samba from accessing the disk when it doesn't need to read the files? cache the directories or something? May 29 06:22:09 but now that I know about them it all makes sense. May 29 06:22:35 LexDelani: are you sure it's not an nmbd thing? May 29 06:22:59 mr_claus: for the classpath package you need some sort of java compiler installed May 29 06:23:44 rwhitby: ok, i see, is there a way to build only the stuff i need to build additional packages? it's compiling a long time now :) May 29 06:24:31 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/syslog-ng.mk: Bumped the version. May 29 06:24:45 mr_claus: have you read the howto? May 29 06:25:15 rwhitby: i have read the readme May 29 06:25:23 rwhitby, it's not nmbd (i use that for intranet web purposes also), but it's the samba that makes the disk spin. After a killall smbd my disk never spins again May 29 06:26:15 mr_claus: the README in CVS which now says to read the howto ? May 29 06:27:47 rwhitby: no, i cannot find an information about reading the howto in the readme May 29 06:28:14 rwhitby: but, i didn't refreshed the last readme on my system May 29 06:29:03 mr_claus: [20:59] CIA-8: rwhitby * unslung/README: Fixed the README. May 29 06:29:22 that was the clue to update your CVS checkout to get the latest README May 29 06:29:56 which now points to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/AddAPackageToUnslung May 29 06:31:54 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/libol.mk: Bumped the version. May 29 06:34:52 rwhitby: looks like i dont have to do anything else to configure my new package and build it, it seems the toolchain will be built automaticly, but thats not exactly described or i missed to read it May 29 06:35:10 mr_claus: feel free to add clarifications to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/AddAPackageToUnslung May 29 06:35:36 you need to do the section entitled "Building the ipkg package" at least ... May 29 06:35:38 rwhitby: i can only add some things if i understand it :) May 29 06:35:56 mr_claus: that's never stopped us up to now .... May 29 06:46:55 <[g2]> rwhitby-asleep, good nite sunshine! May 29 07:37:28 if a Makefile.in contains NSS_LDAP_PATH_CONF = @NSS_LDAP_PATH_CONF@ how i could set the variable while using configure? May 29 11:04:54 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote clips May 29 11:14:10 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/unfs3.mk: make unfs3-ipk rule clean existing ipkg staging dir before proceeding May 29 13:40:32 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/py-sqlite.mk: upstream upgrade from 2.0.0 to 2.0.3 May 29 14:35:12 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/py-xml.mk): py-xml ready for cross testing May 29 14:51:34 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/py-xml.mk: should just use TARGET_CC, not TARGET_LD May 29 15:19:26 hi all May 29 15:20:45 evening May 29 15:21:16 who do I have to talk to if I found unresolved dependencies in the ppp-* kernel modules? May 29 15:22:24 what dependencies? May 29 15:23:12 kernel 2.4.22-xfs unslung version 4.20-beta May 29 15:23:27 insmod: unresolved symbol ppp_register_compressor May 29 15:23:28 insmod: unresolved symbol ppp_unregister_compressor May 29 15:23:44 insmod ppp_deflate May 29 15:24:05 some more with the other kernel-module packages May 29 15:28:07 re, sorry laptop power failure May 29 15:28:08 what did you insmod? May 29 15:28:29 all ppp-* modules May 29 15:29:25 so ppp, ppp_async, ppp_deflate ? May 29 15:29:52 right but without ppp May 29 15:30:26 ppp_async ppp_deflate ppp_generic ppp_mppe May 29 15:30:36 that are the modules I've tried May 29 15:31:43 in that order? May 29 15:32:08 um, yes. I'll try generic first May 29 15:32:57 insmod: unresolved symbol slhc_init May 29 15:33:01 insmod: unresolved symbol slhc_free May 29 15:33:09 ... May 29 15:33:48 I'll install ipkg this kernelmodule May 29 15:34:16 but it may be usefull if someone puts the slhc module in the dependency list May 29 15:35:30 insmod ppp_mppe May 29 15:35:30 Using /lib/modules/2.4.22-xfs/kernel/drivers/net/ppp_mppe.o May 29 15:35:30 insmod: unresolved symbol __floatsidf May 29 15:35:31 insmod: unresolved symbol __adddf3 May 29 15:35:37 thats the last error remaining May 29 15:36:03 also I don't know if I really nead this module :) May 29 15:36:53 bofh_omega: ipkg kernel module dependencies are automatically generated by OE, so we can't update them. May 29 15:37:54 well, what are you planning to use these PPP modules for? May 29 15:38:12 kernel-module-slhc <- this is needed by the ppp kernel modules. rwhitby sry I'm not very familar with the unslung build process. May 29 15:38:44 no need to be sorry - just laying out what we can and can't do May 29 15:38:52 dyoung-zzzz: I'll try to get my box working as firewall between my adsl modem (with rj45 jacket) and my intranet May 29 15:39:16 is your provider using pppoe? May 29 15:39:28 bofh_omega: I'm running pppd (as a dial-in solution, not dial-out), but I'm doing so on OpenSlug, not Unslung. May 29 15:39:30 and youre trying to use th enslu2 as a pppoe device? May 29 15:40:03 dyoung-zzzz: jep, at the moment there is a floppy router (PII 200MHz) pretty big and overkill May 29 15:40:39 bofh_omega: do you need the Linksys functionality? May 29 15:41:34 on this one no I don't really need it. I tried an openslug build (success) but after flashing my nslu2 it wasn't usable anymore ;) May 29 15:42:00 so I failed back to unslung :\ May 29 15:42:37 did you try the 1.12-beta binary? May 29 15:42:43 (OpenSlug) May 29 15:42:46 no, build it from source May 29 15:42:54 I'll give it a try May 29 15:43:39 bofh_omega, you will probably need the pppod moduleas too then, it is not currently being built for unslung. May 29 15:43:56 and rwhitby is right, you should probably be using openslug for this. May 29 15:45:20 k, so i'll have to get it going May 29 15:46:50 getting the 1.12-beta release going should be easy May 29 15:48:20 I'm getting it and upslugging it May 29 15:52:25 Hid = 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 <- pretty unusual isn't it? May 29 15:56:37 um, now I've got a unbootable slug again (1.12-beta) May 29 15:57:24 red light blinking permanently May 29 15:57:34 ok, what installation guide did you follow? May 29 15:57:55 /dev/brain :( May 29 15:57:58 ("none" is not the right answer :-) May 29 15:58:20 unplug everything (nothing was connected) May 29 15:58:25 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugTurnUp May 29 15:58:26 booted slug May 29 15:58:40 upslug -u openslug-1.12-beta.bin May 29 15:59:20 the network is statically configured May 29 15:59:27 gateway is/was set May 29 16:00:19 designed to be run from an external hard drive or flash stick. <- first sentence *ouch* May 29 16:00:28 there is no harddisk/flash May 29 16:00:38 do I have a problem? May 29 16:00:51 not until you start installing packages May 29 16:01:41 gotta go - 170 other people have installed that binary with no problems, but of course that doesn't help your current situation :-) May 29 16:02:00 hehe ;) May 29 16:02:10 * rwhitby-away whistles "Hi ho, hi ho, ....." May 29 16:02:44 k, as it seems I'm better of building the needed packages for my working unslung image May 29 16:03:17 I wouldn't be 100% confident that you could get the pppd modules working on Unslung, but you're welcome to try. May 29 16:03:41 _that_ doesn't sound good :( May 29 16:03:43 I remember I had some problems, and that was why I switched to OpenSlug for that box. May 29 16:04:13 and the problems were obscure enough that I couldn't be bothered looking into them further May 29 16:05:32 k, but without a booting openslug box I'm pretty stuck debugging it :\ May 29 16:05:53 hmm, perhaps I should try my second box May 29 16:13:29 do you have serial? May 29 16:15:15 not yet May 29 16:15:33 but planed for the future for a oneway syslog May 29 16:16:42 Sounds like you flashed it with jffs mounted. May 29 16:18:27 um maybe if jffs is mounted per default on a unslung system. May 29 16:23:18 this time I'll try it with the hd instructions on my flash (mount noatime) May 29 16:23:45 can I ask a basic question here regarding nfs-utils May 29 16:23:54 no one ansers in general May 29 16:24:12 try :) May 29 16:24:44 ok I have installed nfs-utils May 29 16:24:58 and it seems to make the nslu2 lockup May 29 16:25:22 can I transfers files with nfs-utils installed and use winxp May 29 16:25:52 how can I tell nfs-utils is running correctly May 29 16:27:22 the winxp part seems strange to me May 29 16:27:34 why use nfs and not samba May 29 16:27:49 well wen I start the nslu2 I can see it with my winxp box May 29 16:28:03 I heard its faster May 29 16:28:18 I want to stream high def files May 29 16:28:33 lol just stay with samba if you've a win net May 29 16:28:54 so nfs doesnt work with winxp May 29 16:29:02 not native May 29 16:29:12 anyway to make it work May 29 16:29:14 and I don't know a way to make it work May 29 16:29:22 okay May 29 16:29:32 is there away to speed up samba May 29 16:30:03 what bandwidth do you have? May 29 16:30:06 I can stream from a winxp box but the audio studders on the nslu2 May 29 16:30:15 100 May 29 16:30:24 if you mean a router May 29 16:30:30 10/100 May 29 16:30:42 um I mean how fast can you really transfer files May 29 16:31:00 how can you tell May 29 16:31:12 (make a 100MB file and tell us how long it takes to transfer it) May 29 16:31:17 like copyimg 17 gig files takes 2 hrs May 29 16:31:30 something like that yes May 29 16:31:30 to the nslu2 it takes like 8 May 29 16:32:22 same file being copied to the nslu2 and my other pc but the nslu2 cant stream it back quick enough May 29 16:35:47 is this comman May 29 16:36:44 nslu isn't that fast. but to tell if yours is slower as normal I need a MB/s value May 29 16:37:03 okay what is normal May 29 16:37:05 there is a table with performance values in the wiki May 29 16:37:15 ok May 29 16:37:31 I will go back and convert back to samba May 29 16:52:49 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote py-xml May 29 17:11:08 hmm, strange if I flash the nslu2 with an flashdisk attached it's working... May 29 17:11:18 so now I've got a working openslug May 29 17:41:17 hmm, if I install the ppp-* modules on openslug the slhc kernel modul is installed as a dependency May 29 17:41:22 strange May 29 18:03:18 is there a ready ax8817x package for openslug? May 29 20:59:53 03jp30 * 10unslung/sources/svn/ (NEWS NOTES control svn.patch.gz): clean up old svn patches May 29 21:57:41 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (make/ipkg.mk sources/ipkg/update-alternatives.patch): fix hardwritten path to /usr/lib in update-alternatives, bump ipk version May 29 22:14:12 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/libxml2.mk: strip libxml2, don't build a static lib and don't install programmer's documentation May 29 22:20:32 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/libxslt.mk: strip, remove docs, remove static lib May 29 22:45:52 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/fetchmail.mk: strip, ignore host hesiod libs May 29 22:55:27 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/audiofile.mk: strip, remove static lib May 29 23:30:23 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/bzip2.mk: remove static lib May 29 23:56:15 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/freeradius.mk: build freeradius correctly in the presence of mysql and postgresql **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 29 23:59:56 2005