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Jun 04 03:37:24 <bofh_omega> hi all
Jun 04 03:51:53 <rwhitby> dyoung: it would certainly save a lot of hassle about keeping track of maintenance mode and all the different altroot choices
Jun 04 03:54:15 <copperbeech> rwhitby: I've actually got a cross build environment running now.
Jun 04 03:54:21 <rwhitby> congrats!
Jun 04 03:54:47 <copperbeech> yeah - got there in the end... back to appweb builds after a 3 month detour
Jun 04 03:55:45 <rwhitby> good to hear - now everyone else can benefit from your efforts too
Jun 04 04:02:54 <copperbeech> my automake is too old to build freetype...
Jun 04 04:04:26 <copperbeech> does anyone know if it is rash to do an apt-get upgrade ?
Jun 04 04:12:35 <rwhitby-away> apt-get install automake-1.9
Jun 04 04:26:20 <dzlabing> i have installed a crosscompiler (x86) and i also compile natively on the slug, the later is great especially for smaller things (i wouldn't dare to compile the kernel on the slug...)
Jun 04 04:31:51 <copperbeech> says couldn't find package automake-1.9
Jun 04 04:32:03 <copperbeech> I think I have automake 1.7 installed
Jun 04 04:33:08 <copperbeech> ok - its automake1.9 (without the dash)
Jun 04 04:33:32 <copperbeech> dzlabing: I am a veteran native builder - even built mysql natively.
Jun 04 04:33:37 <copperbeech> took a day or so
Jun 04 04:37:17 <dzlabing> how long did mysql take to compile? 
Jun 04 04:41:34 <copperbeech> about a day 
Jun 04 04:42:51 <copperbeech> I had a list on the wiki of the packages I compiled natively - you should add yours to it... http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/NativelyCompileUnslungPackages
Jun 04 04:43:33 <copperbeech> with mysql I had to add a configure flag --with-low-memory to enable yacc components to build.
Jun 04 04:45:55 <dzlabing> ok, i will do so, but i have to say, i just comiled small utils (like the latest version of tar), nothing spectecular. an of course: hello.c ;-)
Jun 04 05:55:07 <llagendijk> jf-work, hi
Jun 04 05:59:10 <copperbeech> ~jbot, seen jp30
Jun 04 05:59:25 <jbot> jp30 <~josh@jp30.nslu2-linux> was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-linux, 1d 7h 44m 53s ago, saying: 'emacs takes a long time to compile and it's x11 support needs work, so it would be useful to have it cross-compiling'.
Jun 04 06:47:41 <llagendijk> jf-work, are you around?
Jun 04 07:44:49 <glc> rwhitby-away: Or make maintmode a oneshot deal, entered only from jffs.
Jun 04 07:46:08 <glc> Boot with n drives, enter maint mode. On reboot, flag is removed before ramdisk is built.
Jun 04 07:47:00 <glc> Now either you upgrade or reboot normally.
Jun 04 07:47:38 <glc> s/n drives/no drives/
Jun 04 07:48:31 <glc> No exit maint mode needed.
Jun 04 07:50:23 <glc> Unsling copies the normal screen, not the 'Enter Maint Mode' screen.
Jun 04 09:28:31 <eno> morning jp30
Jun 04 09:43:59 <jp30> morning eno
Jun 04 09:45:49 <jp30> giel, ping?
Jun 04 09:46:58 <eno> jp30, i'm wondering if native packages are built automatically or manually?
Jun 04 09:47:23 <jp30> manually - i have to log into the build slug and "cvs update ; make autoclean ; make"
Jun 04 09:47:44 <eno> i'm about to check in erlang cross mk, i don't want that automatically trigger a native build
Jun 04 09:47:48 <eno> ok
Jun 04 09:48:13 <jp30> pls go ahead
Jun 04 09:49:36 <eno> how about cross packages, automatic build?
Jun 04 09:52:19 <jp30> no, i log and build manually
Jun 04 09:52:54 <jp30> in any case, nothing gets built unless it is listed in one of the _PACKAGES lines in the root makefile
Jun 04 09:53:27 <eno> alright
Jun 04 11:41:45 <bofh_omega> hi there.
Jun 04 11:42:14 <bofh_omega> urgs white letters on white background aren't very nice :( brb
Jun 04 11:43:13 <bofh_omega> re
Jun 04 11:43:59 <bofh_omega> does anyone of you use pppoe? (the openslug ipkg version?)
Jun 04 11:44:15 <bofh_omega> pppd: /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.3/rp-pppoe.so: ELF file data encoding not big-endian <- error I get loading the module
Jun 04 12:47:59 <bofh_omega> passpromt plugin has the same problem with openslug 1.12
Jun 04 13:47:16 <dyoung> bofh_omega, that error means its not compiled Big Endian.  Where did it come from?
Jun 04 13:50:46 <bofh_omega> the openslug package server mentioned in the wiki (url follows)
Jun 04 13:51:09 <bofh_omega> http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openslug/oe
Jun 04 13:53:54 <bofh_omega> I compiled rp-pppoe.so native (chroot dev environment on my slug) It's now recognised correct. Same with the pass* modules
Jun 04 13:54:10 <bofh_omega> but would be nice to have working packages with ipkg ;)
Jun 04 13:55:32 <bofh_omega> the adsl link isn't working up to now. But that may be because it's the first time I configure ppp(oe) and don't use a floppy distro for this job :\
Jun 04 13:56:11 <bofh_omega> someone in here having a working config for me? (username and pw masked ;)
Jun 04 14:15:09 <bofh_omega> tcflush failed: Bad file descriptor <- one nice error I get
Jun 04 14:15:38 <bofh_omega> seems pppd trys to use a serial connection or is tcflush used for other connections too?
Jun 04 14:22:21 <dyoung> Nope, I dont have pppoe OR ADSL available to me.
Jun 04 14:25:36 <bofh_omega> pppoe: socket: Session 0: Address family not supported by protocol <- next error on my way to a working adsl gateway ;)
Jun 04 14:47:35 <copperbeech> jp30:ping
Jun 04 14:55:01 <jp30> hi, copperbeech
Jun 04 15:43:29 <dzlabing> just failed on linking "top" - it would need the curses library to link, is it correct that this library has not been portet yet?
Jun 04 15:44:04 <dzlabing> s/curses/lcurses
Jun 04 15:45:57 <bofh_omega> hmm, I use top from busybox (openslug) doesn't that suite your needs?
Jun 04 15:47:21 <bofh_omega> btw. is lcurses a knock out  dependecy? I thought this would/should be optional
Jun 04 15:56:22 <dzlabing> i still use unslung and didn't know that the newer busybox already has top included. TERMCAP is defined the Makefile, screen.o and display.o depend on it, mh..
Jun 04 16:01:29 <dzlabing> s/the/in the
Jun 04 16:05:03 <dzlabing> crosscompiled busybox, downloaded, linked to to top, works great, thank you!
Jun 04 16:09:14 <dzlabing> and now found to have /opt/bin/top already installed - it seems ipkg upgrade added some applications... good night
Jun 04 21:06:01 <rwhitby-away> anyone else having grief with gcc 3.4.4 building unslung or openslug from bitkeeper repo?
Jun 04 21:07:50 <ka6sox-away> does anyone have experience with upslug on Mac OSX?
Jun 04 21:08:52 <jacques> rwhitby-away, what are you seeing? I have't tried it yet
Jun 04 21:09:39 <rwhitby-away> jacques: I put it back to 3.4.3 and all is well
Jun 04 21:10:00 <rwhitby-away> PREFERRED_VERSION for gcc, gcc-cross and gcc-cross-initial
Jun 04 21:10:02 <rwhitby-away> back later
Jun 04 21:30:39 <garpinc> Hi people... It's been a long time... I've just been trying to upgrade firmware to 4.x
Jun 04 21:31:04 <garpinc> When I unplug drives and reboot I can't appear to access web interface...
Jun 04 21:31:07 <garpinc> Any ideas?
Jun 04 21:34:12 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/erlang.mk: fixed ROOTDIR of /opt/lib/erlang/bin/{erl,start}, bumped IPK_VERSION
Jun 04 21:36:36 <garpinc> WIth the drives in no problem but with the drives out no response at all???
Jun 04 21:37:28 <garpinc> Seems like ip must be different with drives out...
Jun 04 21:39:35 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/erlang.mk: shorten description
Jun 04 21:44:57 <garpinc> Can anyone help?
Jun 04 21:51:44 <garpinc> GUess I'll try tommorow...
Jun 04 21:58:17 <jacques> rwhitby-away, yeah gcc 3.4.4 build aborts
Jun 04 22:16:04 <ka6sox-away> lets NOT update Nudi to that.
Jun 04 22:23:53 <jacques> we should probably do what rwhitby-away did - specify the known good preferred versions until 3.4.4 builds properly
Jun 04 22:25:37 <jacques> looks like it's trying to build javac or something
Jun 04 22:42:26 <jacques> the oe files for gcc 3.4.3 and 3.4.4 are practically identical
Jun 04 22:42:40 <jacques> same patches, .bb files differ only in -r versions
Jun 04 22:44:08 <jacques> only patch which changed size is gcc34-arm-ldm-peephole.patch
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