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Jun 12 00:00:24 <jacques> :-D
Jun 12 00:57:51 <kared> jacques: alot of headers in /usr/include make reference to headers in /usr/include/asm and /usr/include/linux that don't exist on my instalation. Do you have any idea what packages might supply these headers?
Jun 12 00:58:30 <jacques> no packages do
Jun 12 00:59:06 <jacques> look about 4.5 hours ago in this channel - [g2] and I were talking about those include files
Jun 12 01:00:56 <kared> does openslug have a bug tracking system?
Jun 12 01:03:11 <jacques> I think we're using slugbug for openslug too
Jun 12 01:03:20 <jacques> there's an openslug selection
Jun 12 01:03:50 <jacques> under projects
Jun 12 01:04:21 <jacques> kared, if you look in the backlog of this channel 4.5 hours, I tell where to get the include files
Jun 12 01:18:51 <kared> thanks heaps jacques works now
Jun 12 01:20:29 <jacques> great :-)
Jun 12 01:22:03 <kared> hrmm compiling perl then i get Killed and in my other terminal sshd is killed
Jun 12 01:22:36 <kared> out of memory is my guess
Jun 12 01:22:47 <kared> Total swap = 0kB
Jun 12 01:22:48 <kared> Out of Memory: Killed process 9773 (cc1).
Jun 12 01:22:51 <kared> yup
Jun 12 01:25:39 <jacques> you need swap
Jun 12 01:26:15 <jacques> 64MB is enough to build just about anything, 32MB is too little for big things, I currently have 128MB just to be sure
Jun 12 01:27:15 <NAiL> jacques: I used ~140mb swap when building samba on the slug IIRC
Jun 12 01:28:00 <jacques> is that one of those insane c++ apps?
Jun 12 01:28:17 <jacques> I just put those in the "unbuildable" category
Jun 12 01:28:26 <NAiL> hehe
Jun 12 01:28:28 <jacques> how long did it take?
Jun 12 01:28:30 <NAiL> mysql is worse
Jun 12 01:28:35 <jacques> must have been thrashing all to hell
Jun 12 01:28:39 <NAiL> samba took overnight
Jun 12 01:28:51 <kared> lol
Jun 12 01:29:11 <kared> i had 40meg swap making a 100 meg swap file temporarily for perl build
Jun 12 01:30:37 <jacques> kared, did it die on toke.c ?
Jun 12 01:30:42 <kared> yep
Jun 12 01:31:28 <jacques> that seems to be the big one in perl
Jun 12 03:40:30 <macsat> hi
Jun 12 03:47:31 <rwhitby-away> ok, no objections, so Unslung 5.4-beta packaging will begin in an hour or so, with the only difference from 5.3-alpha being the disabling of the download executable by a comment in the rc file.
Jun 12 04:20:36 <kared> jacques: trying to get perl to pass some basic tests now that its compiled, did you have any problems?
Jun 12 04:21:28 <kared> primarily the lex test honouring single quotes and doing some maths with large numbers
Jun 12 04:22:00 <jacques> kared, only test that failed for me was hostname, and that'e because it wants the hostname in /etc/hosts
Jun 12 04:22:43 <jacques> (this was the perl testsuite - make test)
Jun 12 04:23:09 <kared> perhaps its because i configured it with the files in /usr/include/linux|asm missing then added them and built without reconfiguring
Jun 12 04:23:17 <kared> and its using strange limits etc
Jun 12 04:23:40 <jacques> yeah, that's probably not a great idea
Jun 12 04:23:45 <kared> which means, building again oh man, that was like 5 hours
Jun 12 04:23:55 <kared> my swap space is on a usb flash disk
Jun 12 04:24:01 <jacques> oooh :-(
Jun 12 04:24:19 <jacques> I was gonna say, not counting configuration, my perl build took 75 minutes I think
Jun 12 04:24:34 <jacques> and the make test took 93 minutes, or it was the other way around
Jun 12 04:25:22 <kared> make clean :)
Jun 12 04:25:54 <jacques> personally I would delete the whole perl dir and start from a fresh untar
Jun 12 04:26:09 <jacques> unless you're sure it cleans out the config.cache and everything
Jun 12 04:26:31 <jacques> how are you doing the perl configure ?
Jun 12 04:26:39 <kared> ./configure.gnu
Jun 12 04:27:02 <jacques> hmm, that's new to me - I do ./Configure -d
Jun 12 04:28:06 <kared> ok i will do that
Jun 12 04:28:50 <kared> time ./Configure -d && make
Jun 12 04:28:55 <kared> let the fun begin :)
Jun 12 04:29:21 <jacques> you might have to press return at the end of the Configure  :-\
Jun 12 04:29:33 <jacques> there is probably an arg to avoid that
Jun 12 04:33:24 <rwhitby-away> ok, I lied, there are lots more changes between 5.3-alpha and 5.4-alpha now.  I removed all the support for rootfs on jffs2 and packages on external disk (since we are removing ipkg link from jffs2)
Jun 12 05:04:53 <rwhitby> So should we also disable the call which generates the telnet password (which is very insecure).
Jun 12 05:09:42 <CIA-12> 03ingeba * 10unslung/Makefile: Added hpijs - HP Inkjet drivers (from Barry) to cross-ready-for-testing target
Jun 12 05:18:17 <jacques> rwhitby, because it's based on the MAC address?
Jun 12 05:19:00 <rwhitby> yeah, the algorithm is known, and the user and password are not used for anything.
Jun 12 05:19:01 <CIA-12> 03aabaker * 10unslung/Makefile: 
Jun 12 05:19:01 <CIA-12> Inge has removed whois from inetutils so I've moved whois to ready for
Jun 12 05:19:01 <CIA-12> testing.
Jun 12 05:19:22 <rwhitby> so it's just a useless security hole
Jun 12 05:19:29 <jacques> rwhitby, agreed here
Jun 12 05:19:38 <rwhitby> it's gone
Jun 12 05:19:48 <rwhitby> (well, just commented out in the rc.1 file)
Jun 12 05:29:51 <rwhitby> So does usbutils build an ipk for anyone (Unslung packages)?
Jun 12 05:30:31 <rwhitby> "  /usr/bin/install -c -s lsusb /home/rwhitby/unslung/packages/builds/usbutils-0.11-ipk/opt/sbin/lsusb
Jun 12 05:30:31 <rwhitby> strip: Unable to recognise the format of the input file /home/rwhitby/unslung/packages/builds/usbutils-0.11-ipk/opt/sbin/lsusb"
Jun 12 05:31:27 <jacques> crap not another one
Jun 12 05:31:38 <jacques> must be trying install --strip like procps
Jun 12 05:32:00 <jacques> oh unslung packages, procps is in oe
Jun 12 05:34:04 <jacques> every time I see "Lost in Translation" I like it more
Jun 12 05:48:50 <jacques> looks like pb's second attempt at an environ patch to ifupdown works OK for us
Jun 12 05:51:21 <jacques> ignore that last
Jun 12 05:51:26 <jacques> dammit
Jun 12 05:58:40 <CIA-12> 03sjmelhuish * 10unslung/make/oww.mk: Updated to version 0.81.5
Jun 12 06:09:41 <jacques> ok, looks like patch is OK
Jun 12 06:22:24 <rwhitby> "Where can I download 5.x" - sheesh!
Jun 12 06:22:51 <jacques> yeah I saw that :-\
Jun 12 06:30:13 <rwhitby> gotta love that auto-wait countdown for the disks.  Good one glc!
Jun 12 06:30:42 <jacques> is that a new unslung thing? I haven't seen it yet
Jun 12 06:32:37 <rwhitby> wait for it .......
Jun 12 06:32:42 <CIA-12> 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3505 10openembedded/ (36 files in 4 dirs): 
Jun 12 06:32:42 <CIA-12> Unslung 5.4-alpha: Removed all trace of maintenance mode, and also removed
Jun 12 06:32:42 <CIA-12> support for rootfs on jffs2 but packages on external disk. Disabled download,
Jun 12 06:32:42 <CIA-12> and ourtelnetrescue user generation. Added disk auto-wait countdown (courtesy
Jun 12 06:32:42 <CIA-12> of glc).
Jun 12 06:33:00 <rwhitby> Another alpha - too many changes to make it a beta ...
Jun 12 06:36:44 <jacques> now that I'm not doing unslung native development, it really frees that slug to be a openslug/unslung test mule
Jun 12 06:47:09 <bob_tm> A snag when building Unlung-image (any tips?):
Jun 12 06:47:11 <bob_tm> ERROR: Nothing provides devio
Jun 12 06:47:12 <bob_tm> ERROR: dependency devio (for unslung-image) not satisfied
Jun 12 06:47:43 <bob_tm> (pulled abt. 90 mins ago)
Jun 12 06:52:15 <caplink811_log> pulled just 5 minutes ago, now the build finished without any problems
Jun 12 06:53:31 <rwhitby> bob_tm: package symlinks?
Jun 12 06:53:43 <bob_tm> Yes
Jun 12 06:54:07 <rwhitby> bk pulled the symlinks repo lately?
Jun 12 06:54:18 <bob_tm> rwhitby: Ah...
Jun 12 06:54:50 <rwhitby> Anytime you get a "Nothing provides ..." it's a package symlink missing
Jun 12 06:55:00 <bob_tm> rwhitby: Thanks!
Jun 12 06:56:01 <bob_tm> rwhitby: Yes - now all is well :-)
Jun 12 07:57:36 <rwhitby> ok, I can't think of anything else to change in 5.4-alpha
Jun 12 07:58:34 <rwhitby> let's test this for 24 hours, and package up 5.5-beta tomorrow ...
Jun 12 07:59:07 <rwhitby> night all
Jun 12 08:05:05 <CIA-12> 03caplink811 * 10unslung/make/sysstat.mk: sysstat.mk now builds cross and native
Jun 12 08:08:00 <CIA-12> 03caplink811 * 10unslung/Makefile: add sysstat to the section cross_ready_for_testing
Jun 12 08:22:32 <[g2]> kared, 
Jun 12 08:22:34 <[g2]> ping
Jun 12 08:47:59 <CIA-12> 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/tightvnc.mk: got x86 version built with as little dependency as possible
Jun 12 13:08:28 <evolve> anybody there willing to help me getting twonky running on ma slug???? pls
Jun 12 13:11:35 <Tiersten> I don't have the Twonky software.  Posting to the mailing list may be a better idea.
Jun 12 13:12:01 <evolve> how do i do that?
Jun 12 13:12:06 <Tiersten> Do what?
Jun 12 13:12:20 <evolve> post to mailing list
Jun 12 13:12:45 <Tiersten> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux
Jun 12 13:13:37 <evolve> thanks, i'm hopefully looking for some to talk me through it
Jun 12 13:14:34 <Tiersten> The instructions to install the TwonkyVision software are on the wiki already - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheTwonkyVisionUPnPMediaServer
Jun 12 13:43:51 <evolve> yeah but i'm very very basic have no knowledge of linux.....also got fail samba info message
Jun 12 14:30:47 <CIA-12> 03jeanfabrice * 10unslung/Makefile: Promote whois, sysstat for wiley
Jun 12 15:37:17 <[g2]> jacques, I've kicked off the python testsuite
Jun 12 15:37:29 <[g2]> I'll let you know when it finishes
Jun 12 15:38:09 <[g2]> I' build libxml2, php5 and apached natively today and was playing with Apache on the fatslug some
Jun 12 15:56:30 <AdamBaker> Hi all, I see that my whois package is in the feed already. The wiki says to mail Inge to ask for an account on slug bug and to get a package added but slug bug. I mailed Inge yesterday asking for an account but I see that slug bug has a create new account option, should I just create an account or is it best to just wait. Looking at the package list in slug bug it looks quite incomplete anyway although as it is unsorted it is hard to tell. I p
Jun 12 15:57:21 <ka6sox> adambaker: go ahead and create an account for yourself.
Jun 12 15:58:22 <ka6sox> did you make a control file with you information so that people can get ahold of you with questions?
Jun 12 16:04:02 <AdamBaker> ka6sox - I didn't create a control file myself but I did put my details in the .mk which seems to have created a file called control in builds/whois-4.7.5-ipk/CONTROL. Should I have done anything else?
Jun 12 16:05:25 <ka6sox> AdamBaker, please checkin a control file for the package with your information.
Jun 12 16:05:44 <rwhitby> ka6sox: it's in the makefile now
Jun 12 16:05:52 <ka6sox> ah...okay
Jun 12 16:07:12 <ka6sox> I wonder if that information shows up in the ipkgfind listings.
Jun 12 16:27:58 <rwhitby> looks like someone is really getting the wrt54g support in OE sorted out - lots of changesets related to it in the last couple of days
Jun 12 16:28:11 <CIA-12> 03rwhitby 07 * r1.3506.1.1 10openembedded/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Unlsung 5.5-beta: no change from 5.4-alpha, ready for work to begin on the binary release.
Jun 12 16:34:17 <CIA-12> 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (4 files in 2 dirs): tightvnc cross built
Jun 12 16:42:17 <CIA-12> 03rwhitby 07Unslung-5.5-beta * r1.3510 10openembedded/: 
Jun 12 16:42:17 <CIA-12> Merge bk://nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.bkbits.net/openembedded
Jun 12 16:42:17 <CIA-12> into home.(none):/home/bitkeeper/openembedded
Jun 12 16:42:40 <rwhitby> ok, bk repo is tagged for Unslung-5.5-beta
Jun 12 16:53:34 <ka6sox> cool
Jun 12 17:46:01 <CIA-12> 03rwhitby * r46 10/trunk/openslug/nslu2-linux/packages/ (9 files): Added latest package symlinks
Jun 12 17:49:35 <rwhitby> if I have a set of lines like "? foo", how (in a shell pipeline) do I remove the "? " from the front so I can pipe the list of files into another command?
Jun 12 17:52:07 <kergoth> cat blah | awk "{print $2}" | blah would be easiest.  or if you know its always exactly "? " you could use sed.  but for an obvious set of columns like that, awk's automatic column splitting is your friend
Jun 12 17:52:56 <rwhitby> kergoth: thx
Jun 12 17:53:00 <kergoth> np
Jun 12 17:53:12 <[g2]> kergoth, hey!
Jun 12 17:53:41 <kergoth> hey
Jun 12 17:53:50 <[g2]> how are the new digs ?
Jun 12 17:54:04 <[g2]> and change of scenario
Jun 12 18:13:48 <CIA-12> 03rwhitby * r47 10/trunk/openslug/openembedded/ (956 files in 310 dirs): Updated from bitkeeper repo for Unslung 5.5-beta
Jun 12 18:16:03 <rwhitby> ok, can someone do an svn co from trunk and see if that builds for Unslung 5.5-beta?
Jun 12 18:16:21 <rwhitby> once I get confirmation of that, then I will do the svn release
Jun 12 18:19:36 <ka6sox> :)
Jun 12 18:41:26 <CIA-12> 03rwhitby * r15 10/releases/Unslung-5.5-beta/: Unslung-5.5-beta
Jun 12 18:42:23 <rwhitby> ka6sox: hold off a sec - I have to update the svn:externals property
Jun 12 18:45:27 <ka6sox> no problem...waiting on you.
Jun 12 18:47:27 <rwhitby> unfortunately, doing a propset requires checking out the release
Jun 12 18:49:05 <ka6sox> ah
Jun 12 18:51:28 <rwhitby> back in 15 or so
Jun 12 18:51:37 <ka6sox> k
Jun 12 18:53:53 <CIA-12> 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/py-pil.mk sources/py-pil/setup.py.patch): py-pil (Python Imaging Lib) ready for cross testing
Jun 12 19:15:23 <ka6sox> okay I'm pulling 
Jun 12 19:23:08 <rwhitby> ka6sox: go for it now.
Jun 12 19:23:14 <ka6sox> pulling now
Jun 12 19:23:38 <ka6sox> and I'm pulling and getting 5.5
Jun 12 19:26:41 <rwhitby> oops - pull svn again when that one is finished (it will update bitbake)
Jun 12 19:27:10 <ka6sox> k
Jun 12 19:27:12 <rwhitby> you should end up with bitbake version 250, openembedded and nslu2-linux versions 47, and unlsung version 15.
Jun 12 19:27:18 <ka6sox> k
Jun 12 19:27:39 <ka6sox> svn update?
Jun 12 19:28:18 <rwhitby> yep
Jun 12 19:31:29 <ka6sox> Fetching external item into 'bitbake'
Jun 12 19:31:29 <ka6sox> External at revision 154.
Jun 12 19:34:41 <rwhitby> that should change to 250 after another svn update
Jun 12 19:35:01 <ka6sox> I just pulled again
Jun 12 19:35:07 <ka6sox> and bb was at 154
Jun 12 19:35:45 <rwhitby> ah, must be a anonymous svn delay then
Jun 12 19:36:06 <ka6sox> okay let me pull as a registered user.
Jun 12 19:37:05 <ka6sox> I was trying to be a "normal" anonymous user to verify.
Jun 12 19:41:41 <rwhitby> you should be able to do "svn propget svn:externals ." and see the 250 for bitbake
Jun 12 19:42:57 <rwhitby> ok, just thought of something
Jun 12 19:44:30 <ka6sox> k
Jun 12 19:44:40 <CIA-12> 03rwhitby * r16 10/releases/Unslung-5.5-beta/: Updated svn:externals
Jun 12 19:45:10 <rwhitby> ka6sox: try an update now
Jun 12 19:45:17 <rwhitby> anonymous
Jun 12 19:45:41 <ka6sox> still anonymous and its fetching
Jun 12 19:45:43 <rwhitby> I forgot that a propset still requires a commit
Jun 12 19:45:52 <ka6sox> got it
Jun 12 19:45:56 <ka6sox> okay its 250 now
Jun 12 19:46:56 <CIA-12> 03rwhitby * r48 10/trunk/openslug/: Updated svn:externals
Jun 12 19:49:31 <ka6sox>  U bitbake
Jun 12 19:49:32 <ka6sox> Updated external to revision 250.
Jun 12 19:49:40 <[g2]> nite all !
Jun 12 19:49:46 <ka6sox> nite [g2] 
Jun 12 19:50:23 <rwhitby> ka6sox: so we're set?
Jun 12 19:50:54 <ka6sox> as far as I can tell..but we have had build issues with different things recently...
Jun 12 19:51:02 <ka6sox> (breakage)
Jun 12 19:51:12 <rwhitby> ok, I'm out for at least 4 hours now.
Jun 12 19:51:28 <rwhitby> (maybe up to 7 hours)
Jun 12 19:51:35 <ka6sox> I'll work with Jacques.
Jun 12 19:51:47 <ka6sox> thanks.
Jun 12 19:52:00 <rwhitby-away> someone should compare the svn co and the bk tagged co to make sure they are the same
Jun 12 19:52:09 <ka6sox> k
Jun 12 19:52:17 <rwhitby-away> the bk tagged one is on nudi in /home/openslug/openembedded
Jun 12 19:52:30 <ka6sox> okay I can do a diff.
Jun 12 19:52:49 <rwhitby-away> copy that somewhere, remove all SCCS dirs and the BitBake dir, and then diff against the svn checkout
Jun 12 19:53:02 <ka6sox> k
Jun 12 19:56:16 <rwhitby-away> have fun!
Jun 12 19:56:21 <rwhitby-away> (and thanks!)
Jun 12 19:56:30 <rwhitby-away> ~praise ka6sox
Jun 12 19:56:32 <jbot> All hail ka6sox!
Jun 12 19:58:50 <wojtek> hi - does someone know if it is possible to use a scanner with nslu2?
Jun 12 20:22:30 <ka6sox> heh
Jun 12 20:23:28 <ka6sox> :)
Jun 12 20:35:36 <dyoung-zzzz> Its absolutely possible to use a scanner with a nslu2!
Jun 12 20:35:49 <ka6sox> he didn't wait around
Jun 12 20:36:07 <dyoung-zzzz> too bad for him. :-P
Jun 12 20:36:14 <ka6sox> yepper
Jun 12 20:36:23 <ka6sox> all of 13 minutes
Jun 12 20:37:00 <ka6sox> building Unslung-5.5-beta
Jun 12 20:46:50 <kared> i need a powered by nslu2 little banner for my webserver
Jun 12 20:48:11 <ka6sox> I think that byterd has one on his site.
Jun 12 20:48:16 <ka6sox> byterd.com
Jun 12 20:48:32 <ka6sox> this one always leaves me laughing
Jun 12 20:48:33 <ka6sox> NOTE: Applying patch 'fixchicken.patch'
Jun 12 20:49:08 <ka6sox> would that be fried or baked?
Jun 12 21:28:04 <CIA-12> 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (make/gdchart.mk sources/gdchart/Makefile.patch): added gdchart.mk (static lib)
Jun 12 21:28:41 <CIA-12> 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (make/py-gdchart2.mk sources/py-gdchart2/setup.py.patch): added py-gdchart.mk
Jun 12 21:29:10 <CIA-12> 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (make/py-gd.mk sources/py-gd/setup.py.patch): added py-gd.mk
Jun 12 21:30:04 <CIA-12> 03bzhou * 10unslung/Makefile: gdchart, py-gdchart2, py-gd ready for cross testing
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