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Jul 03 00:11:16 <peteru-home> NAiL: no prob. Hope you get a solution.
Jul 03 00:11:46 <NAiL> Yeah, I've been trying to get openntpd to run for a few days :P
Jul 03 00:12:36 <NAiL> Since it's ~1/8th of the size of ntpd, and takes ~1/4th of the memory I find it much more suitable for the slug :D
Jul 03 01:16:52 <CHAOSiTEC-away> openslug fails to compile? it errs in bluez-utils-nodbus...
Jul 03 01:17:22 <NAiL> CHAOSiTEC-away: What's the error?
Jul 03 01:18:51 <CHAOSiTEC-away> glib-ectomy.c 22: 'LONG_MAX' undeclared
Jul 03 01:19:03 <CHAOSiTEC-away> first error
Jul 03 01:19:03 <NAiL> hmm
Jul 03 01:23:01 <CHAOSiTEC-away> so either i patch it up with a bogus declare or ?
Jul 03 01:24:14 <NAiL> No idea how to fix that, actually. Recent sync?
Jul 03 01:24:40 <CHAOSiTEC-away> i did a make like 5 hours ago, so yes
Jul 03 01:25:02 <NAiL> Then I expect my build to fail soon
Jul 03 01:25:54 <CHAOSiTEC-away> (im building on my gentoo system
Jul 03 01:26:21 <NAiL> I'm building on a box somewhat similar to nudi, the official build box. Debian Etch
Jul 03 01:26:57 <CHAOSiTEC-away> ahh ok :-)
Jul 03 01:27:55 <CHAOSiTEC-away> i had a few problems on emerging boost & monotone, but i unmasking it all worked out
Jul 03 01:28:03 <CHAOSiTEC-away> i=by
Jul 03 01:28:30 <NAiL> Gonna try building just bluez-utils
Jul 03 01:28:36 <CHAOSiTEC-away> ok
Jul 03 01:30:58 <NAiL> hmm
Jul 03 01:31:16 <CHAOSiTEC> failed?
Jul 03 01:31:58 <NAiL> I had already built it. Cleaning and rebuilding
Jul 03 01:32:06 <CHAOSiTEC> ok
Jul 03 01:32:47 <NAiL> NOTE: package bluez-utils-nodbus-2.17: completed
Jul 03 01:32:47 <NAiL> NOTE: build 200507031030: completed
Jul 03 01:33:12 <CHAOSiTEC> ok, thats strange
Jul 03 01:33:17 <NAiL> yeah
Jul 03 01:33:35 <CHAOSiTEC> hang on, ill do a resync and rebuild of it too
Jul 03 01:33:42 <NAiL> I'm not the one to track down that type of errors though. My C-fu is weak.
Jul 03 01:35:59 <CHAOSiTEC> so is mine lol
Jul 03 01:36:17 <CHAOSiTEC> hmm is there an easy way to do a clean?
Jul 03 01:36:29 <NAiL> clean a specific package?
Jul 03 01:36:33 <NAiL> bb -cclean package-name
Jul 03 01:36:35 <CHAOSiTEC> or all
Jul 03 01:36:42 <CHAOSiTEC> ok thanks
Jul 03 01:36:45 <NAiL> I think that's make clobber, check the Makefile
Jul 03 01:37:01 <NAiL> or, rm -rf tmp ;)
Jul 03 01:37:16 <NAiL> That'll put the build back to start. 
Jul 03 01:39:25 <CHAOSiTEC> im extremely green when it comes to oe lol
Jul 03 01:39:43 <CHAOSiTEC> but yeah it was clobber
Jul 03 01:40:21 <NAiL> I'm not that non-green on oe either :P
Jul 03 01:40:30 <CHAOSiTEC> how do i build a specific package?
Jul 03 01:40:37 <NAiL> bb packagename
Jul 03 01:40:41 <CHAOSiTEC> ok thanks
Jul 03 01:40:45 <NAiL> That'll build the deps and the package
Jul 03 01:42:52 <CHAOSiTEC> lol, bb bluez-utils-nodbus tells me nothing to build
Jul 03 01:43:26 <NAiL> bb -cclean bluez-utils-nodbus && bb blues-utils-nodbus
Jul 03 01:45:06 <CHAOSiTEC> bb -cclean bluez-utils-nodbus <--- err: nothing provides bluez-utils-nodbus
Jul 03 01:45:36 <NAiL> uh
Jul 03 01:45:44 <NAiL> That confuses me a tad.
Jul 03 01:45:50 <CHAOSiTEC> yeah me too
Jul 03 01:45:57 <NAiL> eh.. hang on
Jul 03 01:47:50 <CHAOSiTEC> the .bb file is there
Jul 03 01:47:55 <NAiL> go to /home/nslu2 and do "make update"
Jul 03 01:49:49 <CHAOSiTEC> didnt help
Jul 03 01:51:03 <CHAOSiTEC> if i just do a make it will compile, but it wont let me build a single package??
Jul 03 01:51:19 <NAiL> hmm
Jul 03 01:51:21 <NAiL> strange
Jul 03 01:51:52 <CHAOSiTEC> i tried bb nano as well
Jul 03 01:52:54 <CHAOSiTEC> same with bb bash
Jul 03 01:53:19 <NAiL> strange
Jul 03 01:53:27 <NAiL> I seem to be repeating myself
Jul 03 01:53:31 <CHAOSiTEC> so it must be my setup somehow
Jul 03 01:53:44 <CHAOSiTEC> thats the only logical conclusion
Jul 03 01:54:11 <CHAOSiTEC> (i did follow the step by step)
Jul 03 01:56:23 <CHAOSiTEC> (ohh might be a good idea to add the wget for the makefile in the step by step, since i had to roam about, and finally found it in an irc log
Jul 03 02:00:52 <CHAOSiTEC> ill clean out /home/slug and begin anew again tomorrow (work duty closing in)
Jul 03 09:02:08 <[cc]smart> the monotone server is down or has moved ?
Jul 03 09:03:51 <Tiersten> What are you trying to access?
Jul 03 09:27:01 <Tiersten> *shrug* Appears to be up for me.  I can't fix it unless you tell me whats wrong and what host you're trying to access exactly.
Jul 03 10:10:54 <jbowler-zzz> NAiL: if something needs NIS it won't work (at all) on uClibc - absolutely no NIS support (it has to be in the libc, and it's big and hacky at that level - uclibc don't want it.)
Jul 03 10:11:16 <jbowler-zzz> On the matter of things not building after hacking a previously failed 'make':
Jul 03 10:11:19 <jbowler-zzz> <CHAOSiTEC> jbowler i just created that dir my hand, and that seemed to fix it
Jul 03 10:11:26 <jbowler-zzz> Maybe not.
Jul 03 10:12:12 <jbowler-zzz> Either pull the Makefile I just checked in from monotone, or do an explicit 'make setup' right at the start.
Jul 03 10:25:30 <NAiL> jbowler-zzz: I don't think it actually uses nis. The problem seems to be elsewhere.
Jul 03 10:46:27 <jbowler-zzz> NAiL: yeah, it definately shouldn't require NIS, but if it links to the passwd libc APIs and nsswitch says to use NIS it will require the lib.
Jul 03 11:53:18 <[g2]> jacques, around ?
Jul 03 12:42:17 <[cc]smart> Tiersten: monotone: network exception: name resolution failure for mtn.nslu2-linux.org
Jul 03 12:43:57 <jbowler-zzz> [cc]smart: you are out of date, you need a new database
Jul 03 13:21:03 <[cc]smart> is there a way to migrate what is existing ?
Jul 03 15:29:04 <CHAOSiTEC> hmm my build invorment seems fucked... i can do a make and it will compile until a certain point, but i cannot do fx bb bash  ??
Jul 03 15:36:14 <CHAOSiTEC> i will try the step by step again... in setting up oe and monotone
Jul 03 15:36:34 <CHAOSiTEC> brb
Jul 03 16:48:58 <CHAOSiTEC> wb g2
Jul 03 16:49:06 <[g2]> thx
Jul 03 16:49:43 <CHAOSiTEC> sigh im trying to get oe up and running again lol seems like it doesnt like me
Jul 03 16:50:04 <[g2]> take three deep breaths and relax
Jul 03 16:50:22 <CHAOSiTEC> does that help my puter? rofl
Jul 03 16:50:42 <[g2]> has OE run in the past for you ?
Jul 03 16:50:54 <CHAOSiTEC> nope, only partially
Jul 03 16:51:05 <[g2]> ok are you using an x86 box ?
Jul 03 16:51:07 <CHAOSiTEC> i could do make, but it would fail aprox 1 hour into it
Jul 03 16:51:22 <CHAOSiTEC> yeah amd64
Jul 03 16:51:31 <[g2]> cool.
Jul 03 16:51:43 <[g2]> are you running linux on there ?
Jul 03 16:51:49 <CHAOSiTEC> yup, gentoo
Jul 03 16:52:13 <[g2]> well that's a whole story in an of itself
Jul 03 16:52:22 <[g2]> but I'll try to stay on track :)
Jul 03 16:52:28 <CHAOSiTEC> lol true, but im not unused to gentoo though lol
Jul 03 16:52:54 <[g2]> is the 64bit stuff worked out or are you running 32 bit mode
Jul 03 16:53:13 <CHAOSiTEC> 64 bit, with 32 bit emu libs installed
Jul 03 16:54:17 <CHAOSiTEC> and monotone is installed as well
Jul 03 16:57:05 <[g2]> CHAOSiTEC, you've got to pick how many battles you want to fight
Jul 03 16:57:22 <CHAOSiTEC> lol, but i won the gentoo war
Jul 03 16:57:41 <[g2]> you've won the gentoo *battle* :)
Jul 03 16:57:55 <[g2]> it's a never ending war with gentoo :)
Jul 03 16:58:14 <CHAOSiTEC> now i just need to get oe up and running lol, im hoping it will help that i rmed my slug dir and im now trying again, from scratch
Jul 03 16:58:40 <CHAOSiTEC> lol, i never have any extraordinare problems with gentoo though lol
Jul 03 16:59:03 <[g2]> good plan, but I'm now sure all the stuff has been aired out on in 64bit mode
Jul 03 16:59:33 <[g2]> if you want to find and solve all those issues, then it's a great place to go because it work on 32-bit on a bunch of platforms
Jul 03 16:59:51 <CHAOSiTEC> yeah 64 bit gentoo should be quite stable by now though
Jul 03 17:00:09 <[g2]> to me that's bs
Jul 03 17:00:12 <CHAOSiTEC> so its only oe probs lol
Jul 03 17:00:27 <[g2]> or just wishful thinking about the 64 bit platform
Jul 03 17:00:56 <[g2]> I tried running gentoo amd64 a month or two ago and it was still very green to me
Jul 03 17:01:04 <CHAOSiTEC> let me refrase it then, i dont have any problems on my current system )not mentioning oe)
Jul 03 17:01:10 <[g2]> example..  there was no 2005.0 livecd
Jul 03 17:02:15 <[g2]> I've been a daily user of gentoo for over 2 years
Jul 03 17:02:23 <[g2]> actually, 2.5 years
Jul 03 17:02:34 <CHAOSiTEC> paorx same timeframe for me ;-)
Jul 03 17:02:46 <CHAOSiTEC> aprox even
Jul 03 17:04:24 <CHAOSiTEC> but to be honest, i dont think gentoo was the reason for it
Jul 03 17:04:52 <[g2]> ok.. so what's your error after 1 hour
Jul 03 17:05:03 <CHAOSiTEC> looking.. one sec..
Jul 03 17:05:23 <[g2]> there are several of us here running gentoo as a dev system (me, jacques jacques NAiL ....)
Jul 03 17:05:30 <[g2]> so clearly it works on gentoo
Jul 03 17:06:06 <CHAOSiTEC> yeah i talked to NAiL about it as well
Jul 03 17:07:42 <CHAOSiTEC> lol, i deleted the log file when i deleted the slug dir
Jul 03 17:07:55 <[g2]> AND it builds fine on my knoppix bases amd64 nforce4 ultra
Jul 03 17:08:16 <[g2]> it's a journey right :)
Jul 03 17:08:48 <CHAOSiTEC> thats also why i figured i would try again, from scratch, so i deleted all and followed the stepbystep,
Jul 03 17:09:28 <CHAOSiTEC> lol, yeah its a journey... my aim was to add lvm2 support for my slug, lol, my new aim currently is more basic .. lol
Jul 03 17:09:30 <[g2]> that's a good plan
Jul 03 17:09:48 <[g2]> reality is a good teacher
Jul 03 17:10:04 <CHAOSiTEC> yeah, each day, you learn something new
Jul 03 17:10:12 <[g2]> I was gonna have gentoo running on the slug 10-11 months ago :)
Jul 03 17:10:40 <CHAOSiTEC> i read that somewhere..lol
Jul 03 17:11:18 <CHAOSiTEC> but i guess you either hit a wall, or found oe 
Jul 03 17:11:25 <CHAOSiTEC> (or both)
Jul 03 17:12:29 <[g2]> I've got tremendous respect for solar and vaiper but oe is way ahead of gentoo-embedded in the non-hardened areas
Jul 03 17:12:48 <[g2]> I worked with solar for months on gentoo-embedded
Jul 03 17:13:08 <[g2]> and I'd like to get gentoo-embedded on OpenSlug in the not to distant future
Jul 03 17:13:28 <CHAOSiTEC> how far have they come by now? (never realized there was an gentoo-embedded)
Jul 03 17:13:29 <[g2]> it's really pretty ready to go
Jul 03 17:13:50 <[g2]> they've come a very long way
Jul 03 17:14:01 <[g2]> the past several months have been very good for them
Jul 03 17:14:13 <[g2]> you should definetly check out GNAP
Jul 03 17:14:24 <[g2]> and #gentoo-embedded and the ml
Jul 03 17:14:27 <CHAOSiTEC> sounds like its time for consideration in regards to gentoo-embedded this year (i am thinking of getting a second slug, might be a good move 
Jul 03 17:15:45 <[g2]> I think in the next several weeks it's be pretty straight forward to setup gentoo on OpenSlug
Jul 03 17:16:01 <[g2]> I think the timing for that is very good right now
Jul 03 17:16:37 <[g2]> can you follow me to #gentoo-embedded ?
Jul 03 17:16:38 <CHAOSiTEC> seems to me that im def. getting me a second slug
Jul 03 17:17:09 <CHAOSiTEC> (i want the first one just to act as fileserver with lvm on several discs and backup of same
Jul 03 17:17:48 <CHAOSiTEC> actually, nslu2-linux.org was the reason i bought the first one
Jul 03 17:17:59 <[g2]> cool
Jul 03 17:18:16 <[g2]> I think the communities are more similar than not
Jul 03 17:18:29 <CHAOSiTEC> yeah
Jul 03 17:18:37 <[g2]> are you coming to #gentoo-embedded ?
Jul 03 17:18:56 <CHAOSiTEC> yup
Jul 03 19:22:40 <eno> any1 knows whether wiley is big-endian or little?
Jul 03 19:39:17 <ka6sox> eno: did you get your question answered?
Jul 03 19:39:56 <ka6sox> Wiley is LE
Jul 03 19:49:22 <eno> thx ka6sox
Jul 03 19:49:51 <ka6sox> np...good nite...waay too late here.
Jul 03 19:53:53 <eno> there was an endian problem for cross compiled crypto++ which monotone uses, i just solved the problem. And i just did a "monotone db init" successfully on slug
Jul 03 19:55:12 <ka6sox> sweet.
Jul 03 19:55:39 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/monotone.mk: corrected crypto++ endian cross compilation problem
Jul 03 20:25:48 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/Makefile: monotone ready for cross testing
Jul 03 21:39:25 <peteru-home> trying to build gives monotone errors:
Jul 03 21:39:28 <peteru-home> monotone: [source] ae6fbd3f4f93f8e0906759e4400adf3931497034
Jul 03 21:39:28 <peteru-home> monotone: [source] e0471b414921ae62c648ae5e1fad7517dcef3dea
Jul 03 21:39:28 <peteru-home> monotone: common ancestor fadb32b0ce33197c0da4d7a22499a08a75ba9a89 found
Jul 03 21:39:28 <peteru-home> monotone: trying 3-way merge
Jul 03 21:39:28 <peteru-home> monotone: misuse: no unique private key for cert construction
Jul 03 21:39:52 <peteru-home> this only appeared sometime in the last 30 hours or so.
Jul 03 21:40:40 <peteru-home> any clues as to what this means in terms of fixing the problem?
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