**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 17 23:59:57 2005
Jul 18 01:17:56 <Tuborg> Hi;)
Jul 18 01:19:14 <Tuborg> I did a pull from source, but the patching of gnu-config fails. Is it me or can I force the patch?
Jul 18 01:19:43 <Tuborg> NOTE: package gnu-config-0.1cvs20050715-r3: task do_patch: started
Jul 18 01:19:52 <Tuborg> NOTE: Applying patch 'config-guess-uclibc.patch'
Jul 18 01:20:02 <Tuborg> ERROR: function do_patchcmd failed
Jul 18 01:20:19 <Tuborg> 1 out of 7 hunks FAILED -- rejects in file config.guess
Jul 18 01:20:47 <Tuborg> ?
Jul 18 01:24:34 <Tuborg> Everyone is sleeping;)
Jul 18 01:25:36 <NAiL> nah
Jul 18 01:25:55 <NAiL> I thought that the cvsdate on gnu-config was fixed by now
Jul 18 01:27:57 <Tuborg> Hei NAil, what date should the cvs pull be?
Jul 18 01:28:03 <dyoung> what did you pull
Jul 18 01:28:20 <Tuborg> cvs20050715
Jul 18 01:28:32 <Tuborg> NOTE: package gnu-config-0.1cvs20050715-r3
Jul 18 01:28:42 <dyoung> what did you pull from?
Jul 18 01:28:48 <dyoung> ie: what are you working with?
Jul 18 01:28:57 <NAiL> 0713 works
Jul 18 01:29:18 <NAiL> And I thought that was locked in a config file two days ago or so
Jul 18 01:29:52 <Tuborg> monotone: connecting to monotone.nslu2-linux.org
Jul 18 01:30:35 <Tuborg> I also get this from monotone.nslu2-linux.org: monotone: warning: caught bad_decode exception decoding input from peer monotone.nslu2-linux.org: 'protocol version mismatch: wanted '4' got '5''
Jul 18 01:30:44 <Tuborg> I'm running 0.19
Jul 18 01:30:46 <dyoung> Oh, thats probably the root cause
Jul 18 01:30:51 <Tuborg> monotone
Jul 18 01:30:55 <dyoung> you need to be running 0.20 or higher.
Jul 18 01:31:27 <dyoung> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/7488
Jul 18 01:32:06 <Tuborg> brr, last friday it was: You need to run 0.19.... (ö)
Jul 18 01:34:46 <dyoung> sorry for the sudden changes, monotone is very dynamic right now.
Jul 18 01:35:11 <dyoung> upstream changed to 0.20 last friday so we had to also.
Jul 18 01:38:30 <Tuborg> No prop. Not cause of your action => upstream. I'm just started to hack on the nslug, so I'm happy for whatever help I can get here;)
Jul 18 01:39:36 <Tuborg> There is 0.20 working. Now lets se if I can build this slug...
Jul 18 01:43:28 <Tuborg> Now the monotone does not complain, but I still get the gnu-config patch error.....
Jul 18 01:50:26 <NAiL> openembedded/conf/machine/nslu2.conf:CVSDATE_gnu-config ?= "20050713"
Jul 18 01:50:41 <NAiL> Do you have that one?
Jul 18 01:52:19 <Tuborg> CVSDATE_gnu-config-native ?= "20050616"
Jul 18 01:56:10 <Tuborg> Der ja!
Jul 18 01:56:21 <Tuborg> Now its compilin;)
Jul 18 02:06:25 <Tuborg> NOTE: package gnu-config-0.1cvs20050718-r3: task do_patch: started
Jul 18 02:06:43 <Tuborg> Same shit new date..
Jul 18 02:07:47 <NAiL> yup, same fix new wrapping :-P
Jul 18 02:08:03 <NAiL> set it to 0707 instead then
Jul 18 02:08:10 <Tuborg> k
Jul 18 02:09:34 <NAiL> ah
Jul 18 02:09:40 <NAiL> first one was native
Jul 18 02:09:56 <NAiL> CVSDATE_gnu-config-native and CVSDATE_gnu-config
Jul 18 02:10:57 <Tuborg> damn I missed that detail...:D
Jul 18 02:20:44 <Tuborg> NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_4.75.tar.bz2
Jul 18 02:20:56 <Tuborg> Error in server greeting
Jul 18 02:21:17 <Tuborg> Is it possible to speciify a mirror?
Jul 18 02:23:43 <NAiL> hmm
Jul 18 02:23:47 <NAiL> I'm getting that one just fine
Jul 18 02:24:11 <NAiL> what version of wget do you havE?
Jul 18 02:24:52 <Tuborg> GNU Wget 1.9+cvs-stable (Red Hat modified)
Jul 18 02:25:41 <Tuborg> hmm
Jul 18 02:26:23 <NAiL> GNU Wget 1.10
Jul 18 02:29:08 <kolla_> (Red Hat crippled)  :)
Jul 18 02:33:32 <Tuborg> hehe
Jul 18 02:34:12 <Tuborg> same shit with 1.10. Is it possible to download manually?
Jul 18 02:34:50 <NAiL> http://osx.kynisk.com/lsof_4.75.tar.bz2
Jul 18 02:38:40 <NAiL> You should be able to get it from there and put it in your download dir
Jul 18 02:42:24 <Tuborg> yupp I figured out that one..trying
Jul 18 02:55:35 <Tuborg> lsof.itap.purdue.edu uses reverse DNS lookups. Thats why it fails for me..
Jul 18 03:14:56 <CIA-8> 03dyoung 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r7ee0a4b1... 10/Makefile: Add misc other developer related targets
Jul 18 03:15:01 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * refd8c005... 10/packages/monotone/ (4 files in 2 dirs): monotone 0.21 and associated patches
Jul 18 03:17:31 <dyoung> ciabot database migrated.
Jul 18 04:20:05 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ftpd-topfield.mk: Removed the turbo patch at the upstream package author's request.
Jul 18 04:29:01 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * ra0622c3b... 10/packages/ftpd-topfield/ (files/init ftpd-topfield_0.5.1.bb): Updated the ftpd-topfield init script to match the Optware version
Jul 18 04:59:52 <CIA-8> 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * re74c7357... 10/packages/ftpd-topfield/ (ftpd-topfield_0.5.1.bb ftpd-topfield_0.5.2.bb): Updated ftpd-topfield to version 0.5.2
Jul 18 05:33:40 <VoodooZ> damn proxy died on me. That mean I have no logs.
Jul 18 05:37:07 <hanjo> is there a way to extract the current log from jbot or whatever bot is used for the web archives?
Jul 18 05:39:22 <VoodooZ> There are logs kept online but they usually don't have access to the last 12 hours or so.
Jul 18 05:39:30 <VoodooZ> Until the next day that is.
Jul 18 05:40:36 <VoodooZ> jbowler, do you still get merge issues with monotone 0.21? It's complaining about packages/install/files/install-sh. Just wondering...
Jul 18 06:03:53 <Tuborg> NOTE: build 200507181506: completed
Jul 18 06:04:00 <Tuborg> At last;)
Jul 18 07:38:09 <jbowler> VoodooZ_Work: the install-sh change was earlier (a day? before the monotone one).  Probably you are seeing the same issues as before - I believe I'm the only person to have touched install-sh or montone 0.21 (but mickely touched the other monotone stuff).
Jul 18 07:39:38 <VoodooZ_Work> ok. thanks.
Jul 18 07:40:00 <VoodooZ_Work> I did merge it as good as I could and a few other ones and everything appear fines now. 
Jul 18 07:40:10 * VoodooZ_Work crosses his fingers (and toes!)
Jul 18 07:48:51 <jbowler> monotone will now invoke kdiff3 by default (as of 0.20) - that is a lot easier to use.
Jul 18 07:54:47 <VoodooZ_Work> cool. 
Jul 18 07:55:12 <VoodooZ_Work> unfortunately I can't seem to find it for fedora core4.
Jul 18 08:19:14 <kitno455> re all
Jul 18 08:19:26 <kitno455> DaKa2, ping
Jul 18 08:20:25 <DaKa2> kitno455: pong
Jul 18 08:21:03 <kitno455> ran sane on openslug last night for first time
Jul 18 08:21:21 <DaKa2> :)
Jul 18 08:21:24 <DaKa2> it worked?
Jul 18 08:21:24 <kitno455> seems to work ok for fujitsu
Jul 18 08:21:37 <kitno455> i was using an unsupported scanner, but it did talk to it
Jul 18 08:22:13 <kitno455> did not have any others to try at the time
Jul 18 08:24:46 <VoodooZ_Work> anybody know of a cheap USB sound card (I mean basic mic/output not 5.1!) supported under linux?
Jul 18 08:25:32 <kitno455> your robot gonna talk now?
Jul 18 08:28:23 <VoodooZ_Work> maybe!
Jul 18 08:28:42 <VoodooZ_Work> although I was looking at using the mic in more.
Jul 18 08:30:30 <kolla_> hehe.. activate speak console
Jul 18 08:31:33 <VoodooZ_Work> hehehe. I can't really do speech recognition though. The poor slug wouldn't be too happy! :)
Jul 18 08:32:26 <VoodooZ_Work> but basic sound output would be cool. I already use the piezo buzzer for basic sound though.
Jul 18 08:32:58 <kitno455> it could play neat sound clips before it rushes into the burning building....
Jul 18 08:33:10 <kitno455> 'dont jump, ill save you'
Jul 18 08:38:05 <VoodooZ_Work> hehehe.
Jul 18 08:38:14 <VoodooZ_Work> You have way more imagination than i do! :)
Jul 18 08:38:37 <VoodooZ_Work> or mimic a firetruck's siren!
Jul 18 08:40:02 <kitno455> it could call out instructions to crawl, block bottom of doors, etc
Jul 18 08:40:10 <VoodooZ_Work> hehehe
Jul 18 08:40:33 <kitno455> you could even use sound to find victims, though a fire is a noisy thing
Jul 18 08:40:58 <VoodooZ_Work> well, the competition is not that advanced quite yet!
Jul 18 08:41:24 <VoodooZ_Work> but it would be nice to call out when the robot has found the rescued doll.
Jul 18 08:41:31 <kitno455> you said you did not compete this year?
Jul 18 08:42:04 <VoodooZ_Work> no, because I didn't planned the whole slug thing so I "wasted" too much time to get it working. All fun though.
Jul 18 08:42:12 <VoodooZ_Work> I'm better in the long run.
Jul 18 08:42:47 <kitno455> perhaps more applicable to 'real life' work.
Jul 18 08:43:08 <kitno455> oh, and your idea about a page on folks that have burned slugs- i got you beat :)
Jul 18 08:43:47 <VoodooZ_Work> really? How?
Jul 18 08:43:54 <VoodooZ_Work> You burned a whole slug?
Jul 18 08:44:04 <kitno455> with a torch :)
Jul 18 08:44:07 <VoodooZ_Work> hehehe
Jul 18 08:44:13 <kitno455> salted slug
Jul 18 08:44:33 <VoodooZ_Work> damn! I can't win! ;)
Jul 18 08:45:11 <kitno455> i guess the openjtag guys were able to follow some of the traces and unlock the speed using my scans
Jul 18 08:45:29 <VoodooZ_Work> oh yeah! I remember who you are now! :)
Jul 18 08:45:32 <kitno455> hahah
Jul 18 08:45:41 <VoodooZ_Work> thanks again for burning that thing! 
Jul 18 08:45:49 <kitno455> no biggy
Jul 18 08:45:59 <kitno455> solder does not stick to pergo fortunately
Jul 18 08:46:54 <kitno455> i cant seem to build montone .20
Jul 18 08:47:13 <VoodooZ_Work> I think we moved to 0.21 anyways.
Jul 18 08:47:18 <kitno455> shit
Jul 18 08:47:26 <kitno455> your kidding?
Jul 18 08:47:29 <kitno455> you're
Jul 18 08:47:30 <VoodooZ_Work> I took the binary on their page as fedora core4 didn't have a package for it yet
Jul 18 08:47:33 <VoodooZ_Work> nope.
Jul 18 08:47:40 <kitno455> i am using fc2
Jul 18 08:47:46 <VoodooZ_Work> cool
Jul 18 08:47:55 <kitno455> i built .18 from source ok
Jul 18 08:48:09 <kitno455> i wonder if it needs a later version of boost
Jul 18 08:48:14 <VoodooZ_Work> I didn't bother because I have yum! 
Jul 18 08:48:19 * VoodooZ_Work hugs his yum
Jul 18 08:48:26 <VoodooZ_Work> no idea.
Jul 18 08:48:37 <kitno455> could not find fc2 rpm anywhere
Jul 18 08:48:38 <VoodooZ_Work> thus why I take binary.
Jul 18 08:48:52 <VoodooZ_Work> shouldn't be that different than fc3 or 4 no?
Jul 18 08:49:14 <kitno455> dont know. monotone 0.18 rpm segfaults
Jul 18 08:50:01 <VoodooZ_Work> I think i had similar problems so I decided not to bother anymore.
Jul 18 08:50:08 <VoodooZ_Work> Just download the 0.21 binary on the monotone page.
Jul 18 08:50:20 <kitno455> you used binary, not prm?
Jul 18 08:50:39 <VoodooZ_Work> yep.
Jul 18 08:50:59 <VoodooZ_Work> I don't usually do that but It's a single executable file so it's not too bad.
Jul 18 08:51:24 <VoodooZ_Work> this way once newer versions come out in package it will simply be overwritten.
Jul 18 08:52:00 <kitno455> weird, it is a single file
Jul 18 08:52:12 <VoodooZ_Work> I like it. easier
Jul 18 08:52:42 <VoodooZ_Work> Don't forget to migrate your DB though. check the yahoo group for message that explains how.
Jul 18 08:52:48 <kitno455> what do i have to do to my monotone db?
Jul 18 08:52:53 <kitno455> hahah 
Jul 18 08:52:57 <kitno455> we think alike
Jul 18 08:53:02 <VoodooZ_Work> check nslu2-linux yahoo group.
Jul 18 08:53:09 <kitno455> i saved mail
Jul 18 08:53:49 <VoodooZ_Work> hehe
Jul 18 08:54:18 <kitno455> i have way too much slug stuff in my inbox....
Jul 18 08:55:14 <kitno455> nope- instructions dont work
Jul 18 08:55:42 <kitno455> "try migrating database"
Jul 18 09:00:26 <VoodooZ_Work> lunch time for me. I'm dying of hunger.
Jul 18 09:00:27 <VoodooZ_Work> later
Jul 18 09:00:35 <kitno455> right
Jul 18 09:34:23 <macsat> Hi
Jul 18 09:34:57 <kitno455> hi
Jul 18 09:35:12 <NAiL> hei ;)
Jul 18 09:35:52 <kitno455> that is hello in .dk?
Jul 18 09:36:21 <NAiL> Not quite sure if .dk uses "j" or "i", but it's close enough anyway
Jul 18 09:37:10 <kitno455> NAiL, you write the .bb for libsane?
Jul 18 09:37:33 <NAiL> kitno455: no, DaKa2 did, IIRC
Jul 18 09:37:52 <kitno455> ok. has your name at top. thats what i was trying to figure out.
Jul 18 09:38:11 <NAiL> yeah, I committed it
Jul 18 09:38:40 <macsat> .dk uses "j" :-)
Jul 18 09:38:42 <NAiL> DaKa declined to be maintainer, so I put myself in
Jul 18 09:38:46 <macsat> hei sounds Norwegian
Jul 18 09:39:04 <NAiL> That might be because I am norwegian perhaps :-P
Jul 18 09:42:15 <macsat> might be :)
Jul 18 09:44:11 <DaKa2> kitno455: any problems with the libsane bb?
Jul 18 10:01:40 <kitno455> DaKa2, no probs, just wondering if you were getting credit
Jul 18 10:01:51 <kitno455> sane has alot of config files, huh :)
Jul 18 10:12:18 <DaKa2> :)
Jul 18 10:12:49 <DaKa2> I never feelt like actually beeing maintainer for it
Jul 18 10:13:41 <DaKa2> there must be a better way for CONFIGFILES, maybe /etc/sane.d would have worked
Jul 18 10:28:03 <jp30> hi, everyone.  is bernhard walle here by any chance?
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Jul 18 11:22:17 <jp30> hi, bwalle, did you get my email?
Jul 18 11:22:23 <bwalle> Yes
Jul 18 11:22:56 <jp30> good! well, welcome to the wonderful world of unslung development.
Jul 18 11:23:05 <bwalle> Thanks
Jul 18 11:26:58 <CIA-8> 03bwalle * 10unslung/make/ficy.mk: Added $(STAGING_LDFLAGS) to LDFLAGS and stip the binaries.
Jul 18 11:27:02 <bwalle> jp30: Can you check?
Jul 18 11:27:16 <jp30> yes, hang on...
Jul 18 11:28:00 <bwalle> hang on?
Jul 18 11:28:21 <bwalle> Sorry, my English ;)
Jul 18 11:29:18 <jp30> i mean "wait while i check".... done. it's fine, i'll promote it and put it in the feed soon
Jul 18 11:29:33 <bwalle> cool
Jul 18 11:31:06 <bwalle> thanks
Jul 18 11:31:17 <jp30> no problem
Jul 18 11:34:57 <jp30> bwalle, did you intend to commit your make/%.mk: rule to the root Makefile?
Jul 18 11:35:39 <jp30> ...it's a nice idea, but i'd prefer developers to check with me, jf, or rwhitby before making infrastructural changes to build system
Jul 18 11:37:31 <bwalle> I didn't change something in the Makefile beside adding my package for testing
Jul 18 11:38:09 <jp30> well, perhaps by accident: make/%.mk:
Jul 18 11:38:10 <jp30> 	PKG_UP=$$(echo $* | tr [a-z\-] [A-Z_]);			\
Jul 18 11:38:10 <jp30> 	sed -e "s/<foo>/$*/g" -e "s/<FOO>/$${PKG_UP}/g"		\
Jul 18 11:38:10 <jp30> 		 -e '5a#' -e '5a# $$Header: /cvsroot/nslu/unslung/Makefile,v 1.628 2005/07/17 23:06:29 bwalle Exp $$'			\
Jul 18 11:38:10 <jp30> 		 -e '6,11d' make/template.mk > $@
Jul 18 11:38:25 <jp30> at line 430
Jul 18 11:40:23 <bwalle> Could this be because I forgot "cvs update" before committing or something in this direction?
Jul 18 11:40:53 <bwalle> In any case it was an accident. Sorry!
Jul 18 11:41:58 <jp30> no probs. if you ever added those lines to Makefile, they'll stay there until you remove them (even if you cvs update in the intervening time). i always do a cvs diff -u before commiting, so i can see what effect my commit is about to have
Jul 18 11:42:03 <bwalle> But $$Header is replaced by CVS
Jul 18 11:42:45 <bwalle> We should disable $-substitution for the Makefile in that case
Jul 18 11:43:39 <bwalle> (I mean -kk)
Jul 18 11:44:59 <jp30> $-substitution is a feature of cvs i'm not too strong on. what exactly is the problem here?
Jul 18 11:45:28 <bwalle> CVS replaces that sed line by itself
Jul 18 11:45:59 <bwalle> It doesn't notice that this is inside '' and it shouldn't be replaced here.
Jul 18 11:46:54 <bwalle> Of course you can revert this manually each time (I think, but I'm not sure)
Jul 18 11:48:51 <bwalle> I'm not so good in Makefiles. Can you explain what the target does?
Jul 18 11:50:09 <jp30> i'm confused - you mean the make/%.mk target? i thought that you added it?
Jul 18 11:50:25 <bwalle> I'm confused, too
Jul 18 11:50:29 <jp30> time to look at the cvs logs...
Jul 18 11:50:37 <bwalle> Yes ;)
Jul 18 11:52:08 <jp30> my apologies, it was marceln who added it, and I guess due to the $-subst'n mixup, it ends up with the name of the last person to edit the file in it
Jul 18 11:52:55 <bwalle> Right
Jul 18 11:53:31 <bwalle> This CVS repository seems to be quite slow, isn't it?
Jul 18 11:54:36 <jp30> i'll have words with marceln, then. sorry for the mixup. sourceforge is a big system; cvs there seems to have speeded up recently as far as i can tell. it used to be dreadful
Jul 18 12:02:53 <CIA-8> 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote ficy, remove broken substitution from the make/%.mk target
Jul 18 12:07:37 <CIA-8> 03jp30 * 10unslung/Makefile: promote ipkg-web, imap
Jul 18 12:25:07 <kitno455> openslug 2.2 seems to use a 'quiet' kernel. i am not seeing any bootup messages before init starts, how can i change this?
Jul 18 12:27:08 <jbowler-away> It's a bug, build the latest
Jul 18 12:41:53 <Jacmet> fyi, I have just finished my 'Installing Debian Sarge on a Linksys NSLU2' howto if anyone are interested - see http://peter.korsgaard.com/articles/debian-nslu2.php
Jul 18 12:48:47 <kolla_> cool
Jul 18 12:51:44 <Jacmet> kolla_: it's basically an alternative to openslug - it's a bit more tricky to setup and you need serial + usb ethernet - but then you get a "real" Debian box with all the packages only being an apt-get away
Jul 18 12:52:34 <kolla_> Jacmet: oh.. litle endianarm
Jul 18 12:52:39 <kolla_> litle endian
Jul 18 12:56:05 <Jacmet> kolla_: yes, most arm systems are little endian and Debian only supports little endian on ARM
Jul 18 12:56:36 <kolla_> and here I thought you had made a armeb debian port :)
Jul 18 12:57:01 <kolla_> till I saw the need for USB-ethernet :)
Jul 18 12:58:17 <Jacmet> nopes, that would have been quite a lot of work, and then you wouldn't be able to use all the nice precompiled packages anyway
Jul 18 12:59:13 <kolla_> mm
Jul 18 12:59:26 <kolla_> personally I dont like debian and prefer to build myself, so.. gentoo :)
Jul 18 12:59:45 <kolla_> but that's a choice, it's cool that one can run debian on it too
Jul 18 13:04:31 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r5a0d81f9... 10/packages/openslug-init/ (openslug-init-0.10/functions openslug-init_0.10.bb): 
Jul 18 13:04:31 <CIA-8> Fix for slugbug 197. This no longer runs udhcp to get the network address
Jul 18 13:04:31 <CIA-8> if /etc/default/sysconf has bootproto=static This affects network boot
Jul 18 13:04:31 <CIA-8> (nfs) only - previously a DHCP address would be used in preference to the
Jul 18 13:04:31 <CIA-8> specified static one.
Jul 18 13:04:33 <CIA-8> All NFS root users please test this - the number of failure cases are large
Jul 18 13:04:35 <CIA-8> and a failure may leave the system unbootable.
Jul 18 13:04:37 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r74d18dbd... 10/packages/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb: 
Jul 18 13:04:40 <CIA-8> slugbug 205
Jul 18 13:04:42 <CIA-8> Ensure that /home/root still exists, even though the root home directory
Jul 18 13:04:44 <CIA-8> is /root because install passwd files are not typically overwritten on
Jul 18 13:04:46 <CIA-8> upgrade and, without this, it may be impossible to log in to the system.
Jul 18 13:04:48 <CIA-8> PR bumped, but this only affects openslug
Jul 18 13:04:50 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r0c0e42d7... 10/packages/ (14 files in 11 dirs): 
Jul 18 13:04:52 <CIA-8> propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 951c0c24b5755e15cac36ec6f6306473638e2522)
Jul 18 13:04:54 <CIA-8>  to branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' (head 74d18dbd158697cd1cb8d18007643b794b7ef977)
Jul 18 13:05:31 <DaKa2> ahh, nice
Jul 18 13:05:55 <DaKa2> have to test the fix for bug 197 next time I drop by work
Jul 18 13:08:20 * Jacmet likes Debian .. 
Jul 18 13:08:24 * DaKa2 too
Jul 18 13:08:44 <DaKa2> but i would need the builtin ethernet
Jul 18 13:08:57 <Jacmet> kolla_: well, you're welcome to port gentoo to it ;) I wouldn't want to wait for the system to recompile though ;)
Jul 18 13:09:12 <kolla_> Jacmet: way ahead of you ;)
Jul 18 13:09:25 <DaKa2> and there is something nice about openslug and the whole community around it
Jul 18 13:09:54 <Jacmet> DaKa2: certainly, but having 16K packages available for you to apt-get is also nice ;)
Jul 18 13:10:02 <Jacmet> kolla_: oh?
Jul 18 13:10:17 <kolla_> Jacmet: till some silly package decides to pull down X11 and whatnot :)
Jul 18 13:10:29 <DaKa2> well, yes.. :) but I wont need them all on the slug
Jul 18 13:10:37 <DaKa2> its nice on my desktop and servers though
Jul 18 13:10:56 <Jacmet> kolla_: well, you'll get notified by that anyway - and with a USB disk it doesn't really matter
Jul 18 13:11:44 <kolla_> have to use debian at work, I dont wont it on my own stuff :)
Jul 18 13:11:57 <DaKa2> ...
Jul 18 13:12:29 <Jacmet> afk ..
Jul 18 13:12:47 <DaKa2> have to use windows at work, I dont want it on my own stuff :)
Jul 18 13:12:53 <kolla_> hehe
Jul 18 13:13:27 <DaKa2> except all the servers, I have controll over them, so, Debian :-)
Jul 18 13:14:18 <DaKa2> but really, who cares what distro it is, just its linux (or something similar)
Jul 18 13:14:36 <kolla_> like... aix or irix? :)
Jul 18 13:14:38 <kolla_> hehe
Jul 18 13:14:44 <DaKa2> ok.. maybe no..
Jul 18 13:15:13 <DaKa2> linux or bsd
Jul 18 13:15:53 <kolla_> Jacmet: we're doing gentoo/armeb-uClibc these weeks/months :)
Jul 18 13:17:27 <kolla_> I earlier had a very much working armeb-glibc setup till I got back from holidays, found openslug with 2.6 kernel, managed to mix mips and armeb in my head (tht's what 5 weeks away from computers does) and wiped it, believing I could just install from scratch from stage-tarball :)
Jul 18 13:18:34 <kolla_> however, there was no stage-tarball anywhere
Jul 18 14:29:17 <jaylee7877> I'm using openslug 2 beta and getting errors with configure (when doing the configure, make, make install shuffle).  The errors point to trouble with /usr/lib/libc.so.  Any ideas?
Jul 18 14:30:34 <jaylee7877> Here are the errors:
Jul 18 14:30:34 <jaylee7877> /usr/lib/gcc/armeb-linux/3.4.4/../../../../armeb-linux/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/armeb-linux/3.4.4/../../../libc.so: file format not recognized; treating as linker scrip
Jul 18 14:31:23 <jaylee7877> and /usr/lib/gcc/armeb-linux/3.4.4/../../../../armeb-linux/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/armeb-linux/3.4.4/../../../libc.so:4: parse error
Jul 18 14:31:46 <jbowler> What platform was that run on?
Jul 18 14:32:05 <jaylee7877> NSLU2 with latest openslug firmware
Jul 18 14:32:37 <jaylee7877> 2.0 Beta (2005-06-22)
Jul 18 14:33:03 <jbowler> Did you follow the instructions on the wiki for the native development environment?
Jul 18 14:34:17 <jaylee7877> I was previously using unslung.  I did not see instructions for openslug though.
Jul 18 14:35:33 <jbowler> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OpenSlugNativeCompileEnvironment
Jul 18 14:41:59 <jaylee7877> hmmm... looks like that little bit at the bottom of OpenSLugDevInst may be relevant to my issue.  Will run the whole script just to be sure but most of the packages are already installed.  Thanks bunches.
Jul 18 14:43:41 <jaylee7877> I did the "de-underclock" hack today to, it was quite easy and the slug seems to be a bit snappier now.
Jul 18 14:58:59 <bwalle> bob_tm-toandfrom, are you here?
Jul 18 14:59:14 <bob_tm-toandfrom> bwalle: Yes indeed.
Jul 18 15:00:04 <bwalle> I tested switching streamripper to 1.61.10 and adding compiling in ogg support. 
Jul 18 15:00:15 <bob_tm-toandfrom>  Yes?
Jul 18 15:00:39 <bwalle> What do you think about it.
Jul 18 15:00:44 <bob_tm-toandfrom> (btw. ficy.mk builds nicely)
Jul 18 15:01:01 <bob_tm-toandfrom> It sounds great, but you're the one who tested it - how did it work out?
Jul 18 15:01:30 <bwalle> It works. (I had compiled 1.61.10 with ogg support before natively.)
Jul 18 15:01:49 <bob_tm-toandfrom> Should I upgrade the current version (.5) to .10?
Jul 18 15:01:52 <bwalle> In the mailing list there was somebody who wanted an old version of streamripper?
Jul 18 15:02:02 <bwalle> I think that should be an extra package
Jul 18 15:02:03 <bob_tm-toandfrom> Yes, but we heard nothing more from him
Jul 18 15:02:24 <bob_tm-toandfrom> It sounded a bit underspecified.
Jul 18 15:02:28 <bwalle> I can send you the patch (because of Ogg support)
Jul 18 15:02:53 <bob_tm-toandfrom> Cool - please do. I won't be doing it before tomorrow, though - on my way to bed.
Jul 18 15:03:08 <bwalle> (Ogg support is not really complete, but that's an upstream problem. But better than nothing.)
Jul 18 15:03:36 <bwalle> Ok, I'll send you an email. 
Jul 18 15:03:45 <bwalle> No problem, it has time.
Jul 18 15:03:48 <bob_tm-toandfrom> A good start. I don't use ogg much, but I will try it out with a station. They are usually low bitrate when using OGG?
Jul 18 15:04:18 <bwalle> You can only record one large file, that's the problem. No splitting yet
Jul 18 15:04:21 <ByronT> bob_tm!
Jul 18 15:04:30 <ByronT> where the heck have you been?
Jul 18 15:04:39 <bwalle> Don't know the bitrate
Jul 18 15:04:45 <bob_tm-toandfrom> With OGG, I guess - with mp3 it should be as before
Jul 18 15:05:03 <bob_tm-toandfrom> ByronT: Hey! Been to Spain, Portugal and The Netherlands.
Jul 18 15:05:06 <bwalle> of course
Jul 18 15:05:18 <bwalle> no big change in mp3
Jul 18 15:05:28 <ByronT> we were wondering if you had fallen off the map or something
Jul 18 15:05:42 <bwalle> The only advantage in mp3 is that it supports rulefiles (automatically dropping some "songs" [advertising] and so on)
Jul 18 15:05:43 <bob_tm-toandfrom> Nah, I should guess. I will be a good tester of that !
Jul 18 15:05:46 <bwalle> That's a big plus of that version
Jul 18 15:05:52 <bob_tm-toandfrom> ByronT: I'm even turbo now.
Jul 18 15:05:58 <ByronT> :)
Jul 18 15:06:34 <ByronT> good to hear...
Jul 18 15:06:35 <bob_tm-toandfrom> bwalle: That's nice - can you also trigger on size?
Jul 18 15:06:47 <ByronT> was that a sabbatical or just an extended vacation?
Jul 18 15:07:06 <bwalle> don't know
Jul 18 15:07:09 <bob_tm-toandfrom> ByronT: I've been on vacation for more or less a year now...
Jul 18 15:07:27 <ByronT> ah... so maybe just a vacation from us PITAs
Jul 18 15:07:28 <ByronT> ?
Jul 18 15:08:06 <bob_tm-toandfrom> ByronT: Now I will stay in Norway for 4 weeks! Thanks to DaKa2 my favorite apps are started compiling on OpenEmbedded
Jul 18 15:08:14 <bob_tm-toandfrom> s/are/have/
Jul 18 15:08:58 <bob_tm-toandfrom> ByronT: Been in Norway since December, but every month a week in Amsterdam. Was this girl, you see....
Jul 18 15:09:14 <ByronT> heh
Jul 18 15:09:25 <bob_tm-toandfrom> Since June on a _real_ vacation
Jul 18 15:09:37 <bob_tm-toandfrom> ByronT: Note the "was"
Jul 18 15:10:11 <ByronT> oh... end bad?
Jul 18 15:10:28 <ByronT> and make us PITAs seem like ok guys?
Jul 18 15:10:47 <bob_tm-toandfrom> ByronT: Not really bad - a bit sad, but more like the ending of a festival. We all know it's time to go home.
Jul 18 15:11:07 <bob_tm-toandfrom> ByronT: Don't feel hurt - you're all great guys!
Jul 18 15:12:22 <bob_tm-toandfrom> The new make system is awesom - it is like weaving together so much stuff and it just works!
Jul 18 15:13:18 <ByronT> :)
Jul 18 15:13:59 <bob_tm-toandfrom> The OpenEmbedded package make system is very neat, though _slightly_ underdocumented. 
Jul 18 15:30:40 <[g2]> Jacmet, hey congrats on the howto for debian LE !
Jul 18 15:30:52 <[g2]> beewoolie-afk, just pointed that out
Jul 18 15:34:26 <[g2]> kolla_, hey what's up with your gentoo port
Jul 18 16:01:04 <giel> hi
Jul 18 16:01:07 * giel at ols now
Jul 18 16:01:10 <giel> that is, ottawa
Jul 18 16:08:31 <kolla_> [g2]: not really mine as much as solar and vapier :)
Jul 18 16:08:37 <kolla_> 's
Jul 18 16:09:49 <[g2]> kolla_, yeah are you running their build stuff ?  I'm in gentoo-embedded now
Jul 18 16:10:42 <kolla_> [g2]: earlier there was this fedora-toolchain that I buildt gentoo from, but now I'm building on an image I got from solan.. on friday or something
Jul 18 16:10:52 <kolla_> uclibc this time
Jul 18 16:11:05 <[g2]> solar ?
Jul 18 16:11:18 <kolla_> yes, solar
Jul 18 16:58:43 <CIA-8> 03jp30 * 10unslung/ (make/crosstool.mk sources/crosstool/armv5b-softfloat.dat): add --disable-libunwind-exceptions to GCC_EXTRA_CONFIG
Jul 18 17:03:52 <jp30-work> bwalle, can you check whether the change to crosstool i just checked in will enable correct building on systems with libunwind?
Jul 18 17:29:37 <bwalle> jp30: Sorry, didn't read the chat window
Jul 18 17:30:09 <bwalle> Yes, I can check, but "tomorrow" since the build takes about 1 h
Jul 18 17:32:34 <bwalle> I meant jp30-work, of course
Jul 18 17:33:35 <CIA-8> 03bwalle * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/taged.mk sources/taged/configure.ac.patch): Added taged (MP3 ID3 tag editing tool) for testing
Jul 18 17:36:47 <jp30-work> bwalle, good, let me know if it works by editing the slugbug entry
Jul 18 17:37:01 <bwalle> ok, of course
Jul 18 19:04:02 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r0d839000... 10/packages/pcre/pcre_4.4.bb: 
Jul 18 19:04:02 <CIA-8> Remove timestamp issues caused by the compilation of dftables external
Jul 18 19:04:02 <CIA-8> to the makefile (doesn't work when using ccache on a fast system because
Jul 18 19:04:02 <CIA-8> it attempts to rebuild dftables within the makefile). The change fixes
Jul 18 19:04:02 <CIA-8> the original problem that dftables was compiled by default with the target
Jul 18 19:04:03 <CIA-8> compiler.
Jul 18 19:13:42 <rwhitby-web> nice work jbowler!
Jul 18 19:54:01 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * re1dc92aa... 10/packages/ (libgpelaunch/libgpelaunch_0.12.bb pcre/pcre_4.4.bb): 
Jul 18 19:54:01 <CIA-8> propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' (head 0d839000a930b9f5aa897d3cfa5fb5f62ef9f266)
Jul 18 19:54:01 <CIA-8>  to branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head a4fe60013282ffacb156a2b7a396e2346c3914fe)
Jul 18 20:23:55 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r94d9b95f... 10/packages/bind/bind-9.3.1/lib_dns_Makefile.in.patch: 
Jul 18 20:23:55 <CIA-8> Makefile.in was patched to change ${CC} to cc for something which needed
Jul 18 20:23:55 <CIA-8> BUILD_CC, but the target CFLAGS were still there, preventing the target
Jul 18 20:23:55 <CIA-8> cflags containing anything which only works with TARGET_CC. Fixed to use
Jul 18 20:23:55 <CIA-8> BUILD_CC, BUILD_CFLAGS and BULD_LDFLAGS - still a hack because these come
Jul 18 20:23:57 <CIA-8> in 'by magic' from the environment, but that's fine in OE builds because
Jul 18 20:23:59 <CIA-8> they are always set by the do_compile script.
Jul 18 21:03:53 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/erlang.mk: slugbug#178 fix to reduce build host dependency on ncurses-dev
Jul 18 22:29:57 <Jacmet> [g2]: thanks!
Jul 18 22:38:48 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/py-clips.mk: upstream upgrade from 1.0_R2 to 1.0_R3
Jul 18 22:44:36 <eno> nite all
Jul 18 23:08:51 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rca6fa63e... 10/conf/machine/nslu2.conf: Modified FULL_OPTIMIZATION for NSLU2
Jul 18 23:33:51 <CIA-8> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r3ee680bb... 10/packages/openslug-init/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
Jul 18 23:33:51 <CIA-8> slugbug 206: fix the tmpfs directories in NFS
Jul 18 23:33:51 <CIA-8> slugbug 207: fix the flashdisk mount so that it works in the presence of
Jul 18 23:33:51 <CIA-8> an existing readonly mount (turnup, like reflash, now removes all existing
Jul 18 23:33:51 <CIA-8> flashdisk mounts)
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