**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 31 23:59:56 2005
Aug 01 00:02:11 <[cc]smart> Ivanmarcus: yes, kindly. i would like to know in which order position imapd is started on your machine
Aug 01 00:02:20 <[cc]smart> i assum it sits in runlevel3
Aug 01 00:02:44 <[cc]smart> so i would like to know which number Sxxcyrus (i guess cyrus) xx is on your box
Aug 01 00:02:57 <[cc]smart> inside /etc/rc3.d
Aug 01 00:12:07 <ivanmarcus-away> oops
Aug 01 00:12:20 <ivanmarcus-away> sorry [cc]smart
Aug 01 00:12:26 <ivanmarcus-away> was on another channel
Aug 01 00:12:37 <ivanmarcus-away> let me log in & have a look
Aug 01 00:13:27 <ivanmarcus-away> s65
Aug 01 00:16:02 <ivanmarcus-away> [cc]smart: hope you got that info, sorry I've got to move it here - will be back later if there's anything else I can help with :-)
Aug 01 00:27:31 <[cc]smart> thx, this helps me already.
Aug 01 00:29:59 <[cc]smart> NAiL: i'm not sure but i think your TZ is wrong. when you switch your time fom normal time to DST there should just be one hour difference, and IIRC this should be reflected by the difference in between the two values you have in TZ
Aug 01 00:31:00 <[cc]smart> one of the devils in TZ is to not get confused with forward and backward and heck. like when answering the question "would it be one hor later or earlier now if it was wintertime" just in severeal steps at the same time
Aug 01 00:31:51 <[cc]smart> IIRC, one thing you need to take care is that at the point of time you try to find correct TZ you should ensure, that hardware clock runs wintertime which prolly right now isn't hte case with your slug
Aug 01 00:33:11 <[cc]smart> all free of liability :)
Aug 01 00:35:53 <[cc]smart> and with respect to /etc/TZ i still have the feeling that uclibc users could run in trouble if the machine setting i snot in /etc/TZ. this might end up in a mixture of parts of the system running UTC and other part in localtime. possibly resulting in /var/log/messages entries where different time stamps follow each other and similar effects.
Aug 01 00:36:22 <[cc]smart> more troublesome for things that rely on file access time stamps for part of their communication to see if there was a change or not
Aug 01 00:37:29 <[cc]smart> i don't want to convince you guys of any principle usage pattern for your systems or openslug, i just would like to help to make your nstallations run ok.
Aug 01 00:37:43 <[cc]smart> so don't feel attacked or sth. along the lines of that
Aug 01 00:38:20 <[cc]smart> server admins have this kind of behaviour in their ROM firmware
Aug 01 00:38:28 <[cc]smart> no way to get around :)
Aug 01 00:47:49 <rwhitby> [cc]smart: I don't think anyone is feeling attacked :-)
Aug 01 00:51:35 <ka6sox> rm -rf *apache2*
Aug 01 00:59:53 <peteru-home> [cc]smart: Every sysadmin must be able to take on the role of a dictator every now and then, otherwise things end up in a heap ;)
Aug 01 01:05:35 <ka6sox> amen
Aug 01 01:06:25 <landslide> i've ran master make now and have an openslug build.. do they have apex tied in there too?
Aug 01 01:06:29 <landslide> for the build environment?
Aug 01 01:20:40 <Jacmet> hi, did anyone investigate why RedBoot doesn't seem to set up the ATAGs correctly?
Aug 01 01:43:22 <[cc]smart> i have the feeling i see the errormessage about irq 26 does not come up anymore
Aug 01 01:43:36 <[cc]smart> has there been a fix applied or is there a relation to turbomod ?
Aug 01 01:43:55 <rwhitby> fix applied I believe
Aug 01 01:44:00 <rwhitby> well, the fix was to ignore it :-)
Aug 01 01:44:21 <[cc]smart> ys, i applied that before, but it seems this fix is spurious now
Aug 01 01:44:23 <[cc]smart> :)
Aug 01 01:54:52 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r16ce7bdb... 10/Makefile: Fixed the openslug upload targets
Aug 01 01:54:55 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * rd539e81f... 10/Makefile: Removed the creation of home.
Aug 01 01:55:33 <Klendathu> morning
Aug 01 01:55:39 <[cc]smart> hi
Aug 01 01:59:28 <[cc]smart> how can one check what monotone did on a merge
Aug 01 02:05:49 <Klendathu> sorry, i don't know
Aug 01 02:11:11 <CIA-9> 03ccsmart 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r209b7382... 10/packages/cyrus-sasl/cyrus-sasl_2.1.19.bb: Initial ready to use changes.
Aug 01 02:11:14 <CIA-9> 03ccsmart 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r32a8152d... 10/packages/cyrus-imapd/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Adding configfiles and ready to use changes.
Aug 01 02:13:10 * desrt pat pat CIAbot
Aug 01 03:19:22 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * rbc672719... 10/Makefile: Re-enabled ucslugc builds
Aug 01 04:44:47 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * rb0f0d06c... 10/ (9 files in 5 dirs): Revamped the ucslugc setup process, file structure and Makefile.
Aug 01 04:49:23 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r438096ff... 10/ (Makefile common/openembedded.mk): Renamed common/setup-openembedded to common/setup-env due to makefile target conflict.
Aug 01 05:15:18 <CIA-9> 03repvik * r105 10/releases/OpenSlug-2.3-beta/openembedded/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Removed microcom, since the sources are unavailable
Aug 01 05:16:28 <odoc> dyoung, ping
Aug 01 05:17:01 <dyoung> Hi
Aug 01 05:17:01 <rwhitby> NAiL: microcom sources are available.  why are you removing it?
Aug 01 05:17:19 <odoc> hi
Aug 01 05:17:40 <odoc> cpu is: FWIXP420BL
Aug 01 05:17:52 <dyoung> Okay thanks
Aug 01 05:17:54 <odoc> got max2323 and will add a serial port
Aug 01 05:17:58 <NAiL> rwhitby: It can't resolve the host?
Aug 01 05:18:02 <odoc> i can do further investigations tomorrow
Aug 01 05:18:16 <rwhitby> NAiL: we have a sources mirror now at sources.nslu2-linux.org
Aug 01 05:18:18 <NAiL> microcom.port5.com
Aug 01 05:18:22 <dyoung> so far yours is the only report of flakyness.
Aug 01 05:18:35 <NAiL> rwhitby: how is that used?
Aug 01 05:18:55 <dyoung> rwhitby, NAiL: maybe we should add that mirror to the beta.
Aug 01 05:18:55 <odoc> you are using openslug or unslung ?
Aug 01 05:19:13 <dyoung> Me?  Openslug
Aug 01 05:19:19 <NAiL> dyoung: fair enough that
Aug 01 05:19:40 <odoc> i've put unslung 5.5 on it
Aug 01 05:19:45 <odoc> will trie openslug tomorrow
Aug 01 05:19:51 <dyoung> odoc: did it make a difference?
Aug 01 05:19:56 <dyoung> oh...
Aug 01 05:20:03 <dyoung> I thought youve been openslug the whole time
Aug 01 05:20:08 <odoc> somebody tried stock-fw with with turbo-mod ?
Aug 01 05:20:12 <NAiL> rwhitby: what'd the url be? sources.nslu2-linux.org/.../tarfile
Aug 01 05:20:21 <odoc> i have been on openslug on my old nslu
Aug 01 05:20:35 <rwhitby> NAiL: openembedded/classes/nslu2-mirrors.bbclass and INHERIT += nslu2-mirrors
Aug 01 05:20:40 <odoc> got a new one last week and had a look at unslung
Aug 01 05:20:46 <rwhitby> plus CVS STASH THINGO
Aug 01 05:20:52 <NAiL> rwhitby: ah
Aug 01 05:21:13 <rwhitby> check latest nslu2.conf
Aug 01 05:21:16 <dyoung> odoc: I know there are several unslung-5.5 folk that have done the turbo mod.  Seems to work.  So I can only assume that stock firmware would be okay too
Aug 01 05:21:36 <NAiL> rwhitby: nslu2-mirrors.bbclass isn't in 2.3-beta. Will it work if I just add it?
Aug 01 05:21:52 <rwhitby> yep
Aug 01 05:22:38 <odoc> i will check with serial console
Aug 01 05:22:49 <odoc> maybe i got some usefull info from it
Aug 01 05:22:58 <dyoung> Okay, I'm still curious whats going on there.
Aug 01 05:23:44 <dyoung> there have been a mix of BB and BL folk that have done the mod.  some folk have posited that the BL is really a "slow speed" version, but there is no intel documentation to support that suggestion.
Aug 01 05:24:18 <rwhitby> and in fact, the incrementing of the second letter for the rest of the IXP devices indicates an *increase* in speed
Aug 01 05:24:39 <rwhitby> but the conspiracy theory is the "L" is for "Linksys"
Aug 01 05:24:59 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r668a675b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Renamed setup-openembedded to setup-env
Aug 01 05:25:07 <NAiL> but someone reported that the "L" was also used by other companies
Aug 01 05:25:23 <rwhitby> really?  I didn't see that bit
Aug 01 05:26:03 <NAiL> I should really have a proper greppable log
Aug 01 05:26:10 <dyoung> odoc was telling me earlielr that his NAiL-Clipped TurboSlug is being flaky.
Aug 01 05:26:31 <CIA-9> 03repvik * r106 10/releases/OpenSlug-2.3-beta/openembedded/ (conf/machine/nslu2.conf packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb): Re-add microcom, add nslu2 mirrors
Aug 01 05:26:59 <rwhitby> NAiL: did you svn add the nslu2-mirrors.bbclass file?
Aug 01 05:27:34 <NAiL> duh
Aug 01 05:27:38 <dyoung> bah, hes going to do that as a separate transaction so he can maintain his high commit rate.
Aug 01 05:28:10 <NAiL> haha
Aug 01 05:28:12 <NAiL> yes :P
Aug 01 05:28:16 <CIA-9> 03repvik * r107 10/releases/OpenSlug-2.3-beta/openembedded/classes/nslu2-mirrors.bbclass: Add the nslu2-mirrors.bbclass, to get the mirrors to work ;-)
Aug 01 05:29:20 <rwhitby> still 17.5 hours cf 5 hours :-)
Aug 01 05:29:20 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r1038fbe1... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Migrated unslung and openslug to the new setup - type 'make setup-unslung setup-openslug' to upgrade.
Aug 01 05:29:32 <NAiL> dyoung: note that my commits to svn is as "repvik", not as "nail" - and thus doesn't count on the cia stats as one
Aug 01 05:30:24 <rwhitby> heh, "nail" is 3.8 hours - but of course you have to average them both :-)
Aug 01 05:30:50 <NAiL> noooh, I have fallen from the top 8 :-P
Aug 01 05:34:31 <NAiL> 30 ouf nslu2-linux's 40 messages were mine ;-)
Aug 01 05:34:38 <NAiL> duh, yesterdays
Aug 01 05:34:48 * NAiL needs to wake up
Aug 01 05:41:17 <NAiL> rwhitby: hmm... That didn't work. What could I be missing?
Aug 01 05:44:03 <rwhitby> NAiL: dunno.  didn't test it that much ;-)
Aug 01 05:51:36 <rwhitby> OK, the master makefile setup reorg is complete.
Aug 01 05:53:00 <rwhitby> you should be able to say "make update ; make setup" to upgrade to the new scheme.  Then retrieve any local.conf customisations you had from conf/local.conf.delete-me before you delete it.
Aug 01 05:53:58 <rwhitby> And for those who adore uClibc - you can now build "UcSlugC" with "make update ; make setup-ucslugc ; make build-ucslugc"
Aug 01 05:55:16 <NAiL> the ucslug targets work like my openslug-2.3-beta targets?
Aug 01 05:55:32 <rwhitby> no
Aug 01 05:55:45 <NAiL> ah, no, of course not
Aug 01 05:55:46 <NAiL> ignore me
Aug 01 05:55:53 <rwhitby> ucslugc is a new fully supported nslu2-linux firmware option
Aug 01 05:56:01 <NAiL> yeah
Aug 01 05:56:07 <rwhitby> thanks to jbowler
Aug 01 05:58:22 <rwhitby> NAiL: that svn up for 2.3 takes forever
Aug 01 05:58:32 <NAiL> hmm
Aug 01 05:58:41 <NAiL> is there any way to speed it up?
Aug 01 05:58:55 <NAiL> or just drop it from make update?
Aug 01 05:59:03 <dyoung-zzzz> send a turboslug to berlios?
Aug 01 05:59:33 <rwhitby> that's what I'm thinking. (dropping it from the normal update)
Aug 01 05:59:53 <NAiL> fair enough
Aug 01 06:00:30 <rwhitby> and leave it up to you to kick off a "make openslug-2.3-beta (to update, build, upload)" when you need to
Aug 01 06:01:11 <rwhitby> or maybe I just chill out and leave it there, cause it's not that long
Aug 01 06:01:36 <NAiL> It does take ages
Aug 01 06:01:46 <NAiL> I didn't think it'd take that long every time
Aug 01 06:02:01 <NAiL> frankly, it annoys the *** out of me :-P
Aug 01 06:02:24 * NAiL drops the update
Aug 01 06:03:25 <NAiL> The new setup looks brilliant
Aug 01 06:04:04 <NAiL> Before, I had to have four different repos to make things easy to handle
Aug 01 06:04:17 <NAiL> now it's one big happy family ;-)
Aug 01 06:04:28 <dyoung-zzzz> ~emulate rwhitby
Aug 01 06:04:28 <jbot> Well, my work here is done.
Aug 01 06:04:29 <CIA-9> 03nail 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r34d7d139... 10/Makefile: Dropped automatically updating OpenSlug-2.3-beta target
Aug 01 06:04:37 <dyoung-zzzz> ~emulate rwhitby
Aug 01 06:04:38 <jbot> Another Satisfied Customer!
Aug 01 06:04:43 <NAiL> ta-da :)
Aug 01 06:05:05 <rwhitby> in this case, both were appropriate
Aug 01 06:05:18 <dyoung-zzzz> nitey.
Aug 01 06:05:24 <NAiL> nite, guru :-)
Aug 01 06:05:46 <rwhitby-asleep> can someone else confirm an upgrade scenario on an existing master makefile area ?
Aug 01 06:05:59 <rwhitby-asleep> (I'll wait for that if someone can do it now)
Aug 01 06:06:13 <NAiL> just did make update && make seutp
Aug 01 06:06:14 <NAiL> setup
Aug 01 06:06:46 <dyoung-zzzz> me too
Aug 01 06:06:54 <rwhitby-asleep> and ....
Aug 01 06:07:06 <NAiL> it's ticking along
Aug 01 06:07:12 <NAiL> and it's done
Aug 01 06:07:42 <dyoung-zzzz> it worked, but havnt tried building yet
Aug 01 06:08:27 <dyoung-zzzz> make build-openslug fails saying theres nothing to do.  but that might be my proble,
Aug 01 06:08:47 <NAiL> Environment set up for OpenSlug development.
Aug 01 06:08:47 <NAiL> Nothing to do.  Use 'bitbake world' to build everything, or run 'bitbake --help'
Aug 01 06:08:51 <dyoung-zzzz> we;ll, make build-unslung fails too
Aug 01 06:09:01 <dyoung-zzzz> so now that I cant build for real, I'm going to sleep. ;-)
Aug 01 06:09:19 <dyoung-zzzz> (I got same message as nail)
Aug 01 06:09:26 <rwhitby-asleep> do you have openslug/conf/auto.conf ?
Aug 01 06:09:41 <rwhitby-asleep> and does it have "MAKE_TARGET" in it ?
Aug 01 06:09:49 <dyoung-zzzz> openslug-packages
Aug 01 06:10:01 <NAiL> MAKE_TARGET="openslug-packages"
Aug 01 06:10:22 <rwhitby-asleep> and what does setup-env have in it with regard to $${MAKE_TARGET}
Aug 01 06:10:52 <dyoung-zzzz> nothing
Aug 01 06:10:58 <rwhitby-asleep> rwhitby@linux:/home/slug$ make build-openslug
Aug 01 06:10:58 <rwhitby-asleep> ( cd openslug ; make )
Aug 01 06:10:58 <rwhitby-asleep> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/slug/openslug'
Aug 01 06:10:58 <rwhitby-asleep> . conf/topdir.conf && test "`pwd`" = "$TOPDIR" || echo "TOPDIR='`pwd`'" > conf/topdir.conf
Aug 01 06:10:59 <rwhitby-asleep> . ./setup-env; exec bitbake ${MAKE_TARGET}
Aug 01 06:11:01 <rwhitby-asleep> should do that
Aug 01 06:11:13 <NAiL> uh
Aug 01 06:11:18 <NAiL> my setup-env isn't there?
Aug 01 06:11:30 <NAiL> . ./setup-env; exec bitbake ${MAKE_TARGET}
Aug 01 06:11:30 <NAiL> /bin/sh: ./setup-env: No such file or directory
Aug 01 06:11:45 <dyoung-zzzz> NAiL: in openslug directory
Aug 01 06:11:46 <rwhitby-asleep> ah - "make setup-unslung setup-openslug setup-ucslugc"
Aug 01 06:11:48 <NAiL> duh
Aug 01 06:11:50 <NAiL> DUH
Aug 01 06:11:53 <NAiL> sorry, my bad
Aug 01 06:12:29 <dyoung-zzzz> ah, that made a bunch of foo-delete-me files
Aug 01 06:12:29 <NAiL> rwhitby-asleep: after setup-openslug it works
Aug 01 06:14:26 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r585b80ad... 10/Makefile: Added the additional setup dependencies to make setup
Aug 01 06:16:00 <rwhitby-asleep> ok, that should fix ti
Aug 01 06:16:47 <NAiL> hmm
Aug 01 06:16:48 <NAiL> odd
Aug 01 06:17:20 <NAiL> the openembedded dir in / is 118mb. releases/OpenSlug-2.3-beta/openembedded is 402mb
Aug 01 06:25:16 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r7ce9dc99... 10/Makefile: Changed the obselete file existence tests from '! -f' to '! -L' so that it doesn't do a second migration.
Aug 01 06:25:19 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r8280c4dd... 10/Makefile: Actually, it should be just -L for the existence tests.
Aug 01 06:47:14 <rwhitby> oh, that list posting has just reminded me to look at the R63 binary ...
Aug 01 07:08:11 <rwhitby> 2.3R63 has /etc/mt-daapd.conf in it !!
Aug 01 07:08:43 <rwhitby> and libiconv
Aug 01 07:10:58 <rwhitby> and an empty /usr/local/mt-daapd directory
Aug 01 07:14:42 <rwhitby> but curiously there is no mt-daapd executable ...
Aug 01 07:14:55 <NAiL> heh
Aug 01 07:15:08 <NAiL> That's for the NSLU2m!
Aug 01 07:15:18 <NAiL> NSLUM2, perhaps
Aug 01 07:16:45 <rwhitby> diff -r nslu2-linksys-ramdisk-2.3r29/etc/CGI_ds.conf nslu2-linksys-ramdisk-2.3r63/etc/CGI_ds.conf
Aug 01 07:16:54 <rwhitby> > [media]
Aug 01 07:16:54 <rwhitby> > itune=no
Aug 01 07:16:54 <rwhitby> > itune_share=
Aug 01 07:16:54 <rwhitby> > itune_path=
Aug 01 07:16:54 <rwhitby> > upnp_av=no
Aug 01 07:16:56 <rwhitby> > upnp_av_share=
Aug 01 07:16:56 <rwhitby> > upnp_av_path=
Aug 01 07:16:58 <rwhitby> > music_broad=
Aug 01 07:17:00 <rwhitby> > broad_share=
Aug 01 07:17:02 <rwhitby> > broad_path=
Aug 01 07:17:04 <rwhitby> > itune_name=
Aug 01 07:17:06 <rwhitby> > itune_port=
Aug 01 07:17:09 <rwhitby> > upnp_name=
Aug 01 07:17:11 <rwhitby> > broad_name=
Aug 01 07:17:13 <rwhitby> > broad_port=1234
Aug 01 07:17:15 <rwhitby> > play_method=shuffle
Aug 01 07:18:13 <rwhitby> diff -r nslu2-linksys-ramdisk-2.3r29/etc/rc.d/rc.halt nslu2-linksys-ramdisk-2.3r63/etc/rc.d/rc.halt
Aug 01 07:18:13 <rwhitby> 4a5,7
Aug 01 07:18:13 <rwhitby> > /bin/killall ample 2>/dev/null
Aug 01 07:18:13 <rwhitby> > /bin/killall mms 2>/dev/null
Aug 01 07:18:13 <rwhitby> > /bin/killall mt-daapd 2>/dev/null
Aug 01 07:18:23 <rwhitby> but none of those executables exist
Aug 01 07:19:18 <rwhitby> > insmod ufsd    2>/dev/null
Aug 01 07:20:06 <rwhitby> diff -r nslu2-linksys-ramdisk-2.3r29/etc/samba/smb.conf nslu2-linksys-ramdisk-2.3r63/etc/samba/smb.conf
Aug 01 07:20:16 <rwhitby> 23,24d22
Aug 01 07:20:16 <rwhitby> < username map = no
Aug 01 07:20:16 <rwhitby> < mangle case = yes
Aug 01 07:20:21 <rwhitby> they fixed the username map bux
Aug 01 07:20:22 <rwhitby> bug
Aug 01 07:21:20 <rwhitby> Only in nslu2-linksys-ramdisk-2.3r63/lib/modules: ufsd.o
Aug 01 07:21:46 <NAiL> ufsd? unionfs?
Aug 01 07:22:04 <rwhitby> Only in nslu2-linksys-ramdisk-2.3r63/usr/sbin: bftpd
Aug 01 07:28:22 <rwhitby> here's an interesting one:  strings /lib/modules/ufsd.o
Aug 01 07:28:48 <rwhitby> kernel_version=2.4.22-xfs
Aug 01 07:28:49 <rwhitby> description=Paragon ufsd driver
Aug 01 07:28:49 <rwhitby> author=Andrey Shedel
Aug 01 07:28:49 <rwhitby> license=Commertial product
Aug 01 07:28:58 <rwhitby> UFSD version 5.0 (Mar 25 2005, 19:11:46)
Aug 01 07:28:59 <rwhitby> New NTFS read/write support included
Aug 01 07:45:59 <VoodooZ> Anybody with libusb experience can tell me if there's major overhead using it? I'm reading 40bytes from a Low-speed device and it takes like 25ms!
Aug 01 07:53:16 <NAiL> ouch
Aug 01 07:53:21 <NAiL> really ouch
Aug 01 07:53:42 <NAiL> not nice for my aeroslug
Aug 01 07:56:28 <VoodooZ> yeah.
Aug 01 07:56:46 <VoodooZ> I was all excited to switch to USB and not I've hit a brick wall. :(
Aug 01 07:56:54 <NAiL> What kind of device are you reading from?
Aug 01 07:57:10 <VoodooZ> I tried connecting my test program to my P3-900 portable to see if the host was the issue but I got the same thing.
Aug 01 07:57:26 <VoodooZ> AVR mega8 running the AVRUSB stack.
Aug 01 07:57:56 <VoodooZ> It's only capable of Low Speed mode (1.5Mbit/s) but shouldn't be faster?
Aug 01 07:58:17 <NAiL> dunno how it's read and how much overhead there is
Aug 01 07:58:37 <NAiL> if it's 40 contiguous bytes, it should definitely be faster
Aug 01 07:58:55 <NAiL> but if it's 40 single reads, I'm not so sure
Aug 01 07:59:03 <VoodooZ> yes. I made sure to pack them in one big chunk to speed up accesses by the host
Aug 01 07:59:08 <rwhitby> USB_Detect in V2.3R63 says "Try to mount FAT/NTFS volumes" and has /proc/flash_sda and /proc/hdd_sda strings in it
Aug 01 07:59:27 <NAiL> oooh, neat
Aug 01 07:59:34 <NAiL> not that I'm using unslug :P
Aug 01 07:59:42 <VoodooZ> well, the low-speed USB devices can only transfer 8bytes at a time.
Aug 01 08:00:07 <VoodooZ> but still even then I estimated around 3ms max.
Aug 01 08:00:41 <VoodooZ> 40/8 = 5 packets + overhead.
Aug 01 08:01:18 <VoodooZ> I even counted the number of bits in every USB control transactions to see if It was normal!
Aug 01 08:01:55 <VoodooZ> I could try writing a kernel module driver instead of using libusb but I'm afraid I'll waste a few days on this just to realise it's not it.
Aug 01 08:02:00 <NAiL> ugh
Aug 01 08:02:01 <NAiL> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/repvik/nslu2/openslug/tmp/work/sysvinit-2.86-r16/sysvinit-2.85/src'
Aug 01 08:02:04 <NAiL> mv: cannot stat `/home/repvik/nslu2/openslug/tmp/work/sysvinit-2.86-r16/image/usr/bin/wall': No such file or directory
Aug 01 08:02:51 <VoodooZ> The only other way is for me to get a real USB transceiver chip and run at full-speed (12Mbits/s)
Aug 01 08:23:01 <peteru-home> [ -d ucslugc ]                   || ( mkdir -p ucslugc )
Aug 01 08:23:01 <peteru-home> [ -L ucslugc/Makefile ]          || ( cd ucslugc ; mv Makefile Makefile.delete-me)
Aug 01 08:23:01 <peteru-home> mv: cannot stat `Makefile': No such file or directory
Aug 01 08:23:21 <NAiL> make update && make setup
Aug 01 08:23:35 <peteru-home> It looks like that the new Makefile has not been tested on a "clean" system
Aug 01 08:23:42 <peteru-home> I did both update and setup
Aug 01 08:23:57 <NAiL> peteru-home: I'm compiling from a clean setup right now
Aug 01 08:24:02 <peteru-home> the two lines of tests make no sense
Aug 01 08:24:23 <NAiL> touch ucslugc/Makefile and retry ;)
Aug 01 08:24:25 <NAiL> or
Aug 01 08:24:30 <NAiL> hmm
Aug 01 08:24:42 <peteru-home> first you make a dir, then assume that if there's no link named Makefile, it must be a real file.
Aug 01 08:26:05 <NAiL> ah
Aug 01 08:26:09 <peteru-home> perhaps [ -f ucslugc/Makefile ] && ( cd ucslugc ; mv Makefile Makefile.delete-me)
Aug 01 08:26:18 <peteru-home> is more like what was really intended
Aug 01 08:26:27 <NAiL> 15:24 < CIA-9> rwhitby org.nslu2-linux.dev * r7ce9dc99... /Makefile: Changed the obselete file existence tests from '! -f' to '! -L' so that it doesn't do a
Aug 01 08:26:31 <NAiL>                second migration.
Aug 01 08:26:33 <NAiL> 15:24 < CIA-9> rwhitby org.nslu2-linux.dev * r8280c4dd... /Makefile: Actually, it should be just -L for the existence tests.
Aug 01 08:26:42 <NAiL> I assume those have something to do with this. They came in after I set up my build
Aug 01 08:28:40 <peteru-home> bummer, it's about 1 hour past rwhitby-asleep's bed time.
Aug 01 08:29:38 <peteru-home> he could shed some light on what he was really trying to achieve
Aug 01 08:50:30 <peteru-home> rwhitby-asleep: I think the proper tests in the top level Makefile should be like this:
Aug 01 08:50:55 <peteru-home> [ ucslugc/Makefile -ef common/openembedded.mk ] || ( cd ucslugc ; ln -s ../common/openembedded.mk Makefile )
Aug 01 08:51:34 <peteru-home> i.e. test explicitly to see if the Makefile is a link to the desired target.
Aug 01 09:08:24 <jbowler-zzz> All the -L tests are wrong -  the mv should only get executed if there is a file to mv
Aug 01 09:11:27 <jbowler-zzz> Which means -L foo -o ! -e foo
Aug 01 09:19:45 <CIA-9> 03jbowler 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r6964af4b... 10/Makefile: 
Aug 01 09:19:45 <CIA-9> Fix the renames of the obsolete files so that they no longer happen if the
Aug 01 09:19:45 <CIA-9> files do note exist.
Aug 01 09:25:18 <jbowler-zzz> The make 'clean' targets don't work - $${DISTRO} doesn't have any effect because there is nothing to set it in the environment.
Aug 01 09:25:48 <NAiL> jbowler-zzz: is this related to the discussion in #openslug?
Aug 01 10:55:55 <CIA-9> 03jbowler 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * re7454d42... 10/common/ (openembedded.mk setup-env): Prevent DISTRO, MAKE_TARGET and MACHINE getting into the environment.
Aug 01 11:17:17 <Jacmet> Did anyone investigate why RedBoot doesn't seem to set up the ATAGs correctly? E.G. setting the cmdline doesn't seem to have any effect
Aug 01 12:33:51 <CIA-9> 03marceln * 10unslung/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Package builds and installs. After installing i can login to imap.
Aug 01 13:08:09 <CIA-9> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r5f72a960... 10/packages/ccxstream/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ccxstream package from kolla
Aug 01 13:34:12 <Y99> hi
Aug 01 13:34:54 <ka6sox-office> lo
Aug 01 13:35:51 <Y99> i need help
Aug 01 13:37:24 <ka6sox-office> 42
Aug 01 13:37:40 <ka6sox-office> go ahead.
Aug 01 13:38:40 <Y99> i'm newbie, i install now unslung on my nslu2
Aug 01 13:39:36 <ka6sox-office> the best place for install questions is
Aug 01 13:39:52 <ka6sox-office> ~nslu2-wiki
Aug 01 13:39:52 <jbot> i heard nslu2-wiki is the short-hand way of saying "Have a look at the NSLU2-Linux Wiki at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/".
Aug 01 13:40:06 <ka6sox-office> or the #nslu2-general channel.
Aug 01 13:40:21 <Y99> ok, thanks
Aug 01 13:40:34 <ka6sox-office> about 90% of the questions are answered there...
Aug 01 13:40:37 <ka6sox-office> np...enjoy!
Aug 01 13:42:47 <rwhitby-asleep> jbowler-away: thx for fixing it up
Aug 01 13:42:52 <Y99> i read the questions on this site, but i try to install the package with ipkg, download it, but write: no space left.
Aug 01 13:43:06 <Y99> i attached usb dsk 80 gb
Aug 01 13:48:25 <ka6sox-office> and you did the unslinging process/
Aug 01 13:49:02 <Y99> yes, unsling disk1
Aug 01 13:50:01 <ka6sox-office> df gives what?
Aug 01 13:50:35 <Y99> Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
Aug 01 13:50:35 <Y99> rootfs                78604608     44488  77761532   0% /
Aug 01 13:50:59 <ka6sox-office> okay your HD isnt' attached now...
Aug 01 13:51:13 <ka6sox-office> so there is no room in the jffs2 section to ipkg install.
Aug 01 13:51:57 <Y99> ok, sorry
Aug 01 13:52:21 <ka6sox-office> you should reflash your slug since you have filled up the jffs2 section and re-sling
Aug 01 13:53:37 <Y99> dev/sda1                 6528      6492        36  99% /initrd
Aug 01 13:53:50 <Y99> dev/sda1             78604608     44488  77761532   0% /
Aug 01 13:54:04 <Y99> dev/sda1             78604608     44488  77761532   0% /share/hdd/data
Aug 01 13:54:21 <Y99> dev/sda2               116661      4154    111303   4% /share/hdd/conf
Aug 01 13:54:27 <Y99> this is ok?
Aug 01 13:54:34 <ka6sox-office> better...
Aug 01 13:55:05 <ka6sox-office> it still bothers me that you have a completely full jffs2 partition.
Aug 01 13:55:11 <ka6sox-office> but that maybe okay.
Aug 01 13:55:23 <Y99> ipkg download the package, but not install it
Aug 01 13:55:46 <Y99> can i resolve the issue?
Aug 01 13:55:56 <rwhitby-asleep> how did you run ipkg without the disk mounted anyway?
Aug 01 13:56:35 <Y99> no, the disk1 is mounted
Aug 01 13:56:51 <ka6sox-office> it should just fail as /opt/ provides the link
Aug 01 13:56:55 <ka6sox-office> to ipkg
Aug 01 13:57:15 <rwhitby> what version of unslung?
Aug 01 13:57:30 <Y99> 5.5 beta
Aug 01 13:58:09 <rwhitby> ok, see you in #nslu2-general, this is off-topic here
Aug 01 13:58:57 <Y99> ok, sorry, i post the question here
Aug 01 14:04:33 <[cc]smart> how can i find out what marceln's change up there contained ?
Aug 01 14:24:21 <CIA-9> 03ccsmart 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r10517186... 10/.mt-attrs: Committing executable flag for cyrus startup script.
Aug 01 14:24:24 <CIA-9> 03ccsmart 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rb1ad57ce... 10/packages/cyrus-sasl/cyrus-sasl_2.1.19.bb: Make call to saslpasswd2 more conformant to documentation (adding -p).
Aug 01 15:09:51 <CIA-9> 03repvik * r108 10/releases/OpenSlug-2.3-beta/openembedded/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Remove postfix from stable build until it builds reliably. Move strace back in
Aug 01 15:45:28 <rwhitby> http://www.maxstream.net/corporate/press/2005-07-28_zigbee-stand-alone-radios.php <- wonder if they will work with the slug ...
Aug 01 15:59:37 <CIA-9> 03repvik * r109 10/releases/OpenSlug-2.3-beta/openembedded/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Remove duplicate postfix line
Aug 01 16:01:03 <Ivanmarcus> rwhitby: cheap enuff, but methinks a WRT54 is easier :-)
Aug 01 16:03:26 <philipjohnson> rwhitby: CompX have sold ZigBee dongles for a while but for around $250 - linux drivers too if I recall...
Aug 01 17:05:29 <CIA-9> 03kolla 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r08db957f... 10/packages/ccxstream/ccxstream_1.0.15.bb: Fixed to use proper variables and install -d instead of mkdir
Aug 01 17:15:17 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r3b2d465c... 10/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Reinstated freyther's patch which I inadvertently reverted during a spurious monotone merge :-(
Aug 01 17:15:24 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r9ec15bcf... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Added more development packages to OpenSlug feed
Aug 01 17:15:26 <CIA-9> 03kolla 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rd5ca2d90... 10/packages/ccxstream/ccxstream_1.0.15.bb: Wasnt aware of PR... bear with me
Aug 01 17:39:24 <CIA-9> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * ra0c6e9d6... 10/classes/tinderclient.bbclass: 
Aug 01 17:39:24 <CIA-9> To avoid further errors this is a manual copy of the current
Aug 01 17:39:24 <CIA-9> classes/tinderclient.bbclass (which includes the de-reverted change) from
Aug 01 17:39:24 <CIA-9> org.openembedded.dev
Aug 01 17:59:57 <CIA-9> 03jbowler 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * re7290af9... 10/ (85 files in 60 dirs): 
Aug 01 17:59:57 <CIA-9> propagate from branch 'org.openembedded.dev' (head 47c2f7f436790105a8af32ec352907b8ff53aba1)
Aug 01 17:59:57 <CIA-9>  to branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' (head a69b542d88fdbf378cd19a8ef701895615c143f7)
Aug 01 18:00:17 <NAiL> urgh
Aug 01 18:00:22 * NAiL does make update
Aug 01 19:33:45 <NAiL> oh
Aug 01 19:35:55 <CIA-9> 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r7e76b182... 10/packages/bwmon/ (bwmon_1.3.bb files/makefile.patch): Added package bwmon (Linux bandwidth monitor)
Aug 01 19:35:58 <CIA-9> 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r224d1821... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Add bwmon
Aug 01 19:36:00 <CIA-9> 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r918d376e... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Add ccxstream and bwmon
Aug 01 19:39:24 <CIA-9> 03nail 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * r9ef371d5... 10/conf/distro/openslug-packages.conf: Added ccxstream
Aug 01 19:42:47 <NAiL> ~emulate rwhitby
Aug 01 19:42:47 <jbot> Another Satisfied Customer!
Aug 01 19:42:55 * NAiL goes to bed
Aug 01 20:26:56 * philj-sleepin ooooh, blootbot!
Aug 01 20:27:20 * philj-sleepin rubs hands together
Aug 01 20:49:22 <CIA-9> 03nslu2-linux 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r6810bf70... 10/Makefile: Added the clobber-master target
Aug 01 20:59:25 <CIA-9> 03nslu2-linux 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r04bb45f6... 10/unslung/Makefile: Removed the old unlsung Makefile
Aug 01 20:59:28 <CIA-9> 03nslu2-linux 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r4ea83ab4... 10/openslug/Makefile: Removed the old openslug Makefile
Aug 01 21:23:59 <desrt> ~emulate desrt
Aug 01 21:24:06 * desrt sobs quietly
Aug 01 22:01:43 <eno> ka6sox, i built a static linked monotone-0.21.deb for ubuntu
Aug 01 22:03:13 <ka6sox> amd64?
Aug 01 22:03:35 <ka6sox> or i386?
Aug 01 22:03:40 <eno> no, just regular i386
Aug 01 22:03:44 <ka6sox> cool
Aug 01 22:04:40 <eno> if you're interested, i can send you a link thru pm
Aug 01 22:17:27 <fontenot> hi ka6sox 
Aug 01 22:18:24 <ka6sox> hiya!
Aug 01 22:19:24 <CIA-9> 03nslu2-linux 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r9143db22... 10/Makefile: Added status commands for developers to determine their changed files.
Aug 01 22:21:20 <ka6sox> today was good....got monotone/apache/php running on nugabe.
Aug 01 22:21:30 <fontenot> nice
Aug 01 22:21:47 <ka6sox> good help at just the right time :)
Aug 01 22:23:10 <eno> ka6sox, i'm not that familar with irc pm, i can send the link to your email
Aug 01 22:23:12 <fontenot> excellent :-)
Aug 01 22:23:28 <ka6sox> eno: thanks.
Aug 01 22:24:54 <eno> i can even try build amd64 at cf.sf.net if you're willing to wait a bit
Aug 01 22:25:38 <ka6sox> I'm willing...
Aug 01 23:05:42 <CIA-9> 03rwhitby * 10unslung/.cvsignore: Added the .configured stamp file.
Aug 01 23:09:22 <CIA-9> 03nslu2-linux 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * rb81e43e7... 10/Makefile: Revamped the setup targets to use a .configured stamp file to indicate completion instead of a file that is touched on each pull and causes downstream dependencies to be out of date.
Aug 01 23:17:43 <jumpkick> In case anyone is interested in using a USB modem with Unslung, I've just released a bunch of code to foward caller id info to an SMS gateway... you can get it here: http://stacktrace.org/index_html/20050802-HPM-NSLU2-unslung-5.5
Aug 01 23:18:18 <rwhitby-web> jumpkick: interested in making it an Unslung package?
Aug 01 23:19:03 <rwhitby-web> and getting the ACM module into the official Unslung distro?
Aug 01 23:19:15 <jumpkick> rwhitby-web: it's quite hacky at this point and it has dependancies....
Aug 01 23:19:24 <jumpkick> but your welcome to take the acm.o module
Aug 01 23:19:51 <jumpkick> it's compiled and in there...  just need to set the kernel config to do ACM=m
Aug 01 23:20:50 <jumpkick> I had to break some packaging rules...  
Aug 01 23:21:32 <jumpkick> nohup without the rest of coreutils and microcom + patches --- in order to fit into the space of NSLU2 w/ no HDDs
Aug 01 23:23:35 <rwhitby-web> jumpkick: are the microcom patches general purpose fixes?
Aug 01 23:24:10 <jumpkick> fixed a bug and added a feature to enable logging from command line
Aug 01 23:24:15 <rwhitby-web> and I think a nohup package on it's own would be a useful addition to optware
Aug 01 23:24:31 <jumpkick> I agree...  
Aug 01 23:24:34 <rwhitby-web> jumpkick: are you an Optware (Unslung packages) developer yet?
Aug 01 23:25:06 <jumpkick> rwhitby-web: not yet... 
Aug 01 23:25:14 <rwhitby-web> and how much did you get your USB modem for (are you in AU?)
Aug 01 23:25:28 <rwhitby-web> If you've got an sf.net id, I can add you right now.
Aug 01 23:25:53 <jumpkick> was originally hoping I could get away with just scripting...  ended up having to do a lot more work compiling and patching then I'd hoped to...
Aug 01 23:26:06 <jumpkick> my sf id is ironstorm
Aug 01 23:26:14 <jumpkick> I'm in Canada
Aug 01 23:26:41 <jumpkick> the modem cost me about $20CAD (~ about the same in AUD)  it's a used USR
Aug 01 23:26:56 <rwhitby-web> what model?
Aug 01 23:27:48 <jumpkick> 5605 -- looks like this: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6786815656&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Aug 01 23:27:52 <jumpkick> it has serial + usb
Aug 01 23:28:06 <jumpkick> but only V.90 not 92
Aug 01 23:28:34 <jumpkick> you have to flash it over serial to make the USB work pnp, then you can use ACM or CDC-ACM
Aug 01 23:28:39 <rwhitby-web> jumpkick: You're now an Optware (Unslung packages) developer.
Aug 01 23:28:51 <jumpkick> lol...
Aug 01 23:29:13 <jumpkick> it's 2:30 am here... so I got to sleep for work tomorrow
Aug 01 23:29:20 <jumpkick> nite
Aug 01 23:29:25 <rwhitby-web> ok, when you get some time .... :-)
Aug 01 23:29:46 <rwhitby-web> look at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile, and type "make optware-nslu2"
Aug 01 23:39:30 <CIA-9> 03daka 07org.openembedded.nslu2-linux * rd24be3dd... 10/packages/perl/ (perl-5.8.7/config.sh-i386-linux perl_5.8.7.bb): Add untested i386 config.sh for perl for OE-Bug:#196
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