**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 09 02:59:56 2005
Oct 09 03:02:57 <eFfeM> cheef_daniel, or do a modprobe in rc.5 or so
Oct 09 03:03:51 <cheef_daniel> I did yesterday a modprobe in rc.3 but it didn't work
Oct 09 03:04:07 <dwery> strange
Oct 09 03:04:57 <cheef_daniel> but when I do the modprobe manually the modules get loaded, but it did't do anything more, only when I replug the devices
Oct 09 03:08:46 <eFfeM> cheef_daniel,  this might depend on what you want to insert.
Oct 09 03:09:21 <cheef_daniel> snd-* modules and pl2303-module
Oct 09 03:09:27 <eFfeM> I haven't really explored this much but I have a usb tv card. if it is plugged when I boot, it is not recognised, but after modprobing it, i can use it immediately
Oct 09 03:10:33 <eFfeM> you might be able to do something with ivman
Oct 09 03:10:48 <eFfeM> I have not used this before, but I am now building it on the slug
Oct 09 03:11:12 <eFfeM> what I want to do is automatically copy data from cd when one is inserted in my usb cdrom drive
Oct 09 03:13:34 <dwery> eFfeM: use hotplug then :)
Oct 09 03:13:53 <eFfeM> dwery, I have used hotplug, but that did not really do what I wanted to
Oct 09 03:14:09 <eFfeM> I can detect that the device is inserted, but not when a disc is inserted
Oct 09 03:14:19 <eFfeM> ivman seems to be able to support this
Oct 09 03:15:32 <eFfeM> i've also been looking for some code on top of hotplug that could detect the capabilities of the device being plugged (eg. is it a disk, memory stick, cdrom drive, cd writer or  a camera).
Oct 09 03:15:41 <eFfeM> These are all mass storage devices
Oct 09 03:15:59 <dwery> on my laptop
Oct 09 03:16:26 <dwery> it works quite fine and an insertion is detected correctly. but probably the usb/usb-storage doesn=t react the same way
Oct 09 03:17:48 <eFfeM> yeah, my FC pc has the same. It does automount. That will do most of it. However, I want to trigger a user app when the device is inserted (to automatically copy contents to the hd)
Oct 09 03:23:51 <eFfeM> don't think your laptop will do that
Oct 09 03:24:03 <eFfeM> (at least i did not find it in FC)
Oct 09 03:24:25 <dwery> well, it opens a window on gnome
Oct 09 03:24:30 <dwery> :)
Oct 09 03:25:11 <eFfeM> for me when I insert a cd i get an icon on my desktop (gnome)
Oct 09 04:24:50 <cheef_daniel> dwery: I think hotplug is enabled at default, so why are some modules not loaded during boot?
Oct 09 04:26:01 <dwery> cheef_daniel: quite strange. on mine it seems all the required modules are loaded. but i use debian. you'll have to check for hot plug configuration maybe
Oct 09 04:26:41 <cheef_daniel> when I replug the devices the modules load automatically
Oct 09 04:26:53 <cheef_daniel> only during reboot they dont get loaded
Oct 09 04:27:47 <dwery> .... I dont really know.. it-s quite strange indeed
Oct 09 04:28:49 <cheef_daniel> I can't find any hotplug-configuration script on my nslu2, there is only /ets/hotplug.d/... but there are only binarys in it
Oct 09 04:29:07 <eFfeM> cheef_daniel, what os are you using. I seem to recall that unslung and probably also openslug 2.5 did not do hotslug by default
Oct 09 04:29:18 <cheef_daniel> openslug 2.7beta
Oct 09 04:29:36 <eFfeM> that should do the trick
Oct 09 04:30:20 <eFfeM> you should have a /etc/hotplug.d/usb/module_usb.hotplug
Oct 09 04:30:32 <cheef_daniel> yes its a binary
Oct 09 04:30:59 <eFfeM> i suspect that should do the trick, but I don't know details.
Oct 09 04:31:40 <cheef_daniel> when I call it from console: Segmentation fault
Oct 09 04:31:57 <eFfeM> what you can do is create a file usb.hotplug in the same dir with contents
Oct 09 04:32:07 <eFfeM> #!/bin/sh
Oct 09 04:32:07 <eFfeM> date >>/LOG2
Oct 09 04:32:07 <eFfeM> set >>/LOG2
Oct 09 04:32:31 <eFfeM> that will give you info on which devices are recognised when you reboot 
Oct 09 04:32:48 <eFfeM> (there is a product env var that contains all vendor id and manuf id
Oct 09 04:35:44 <eFfeM> if I call the module-usb.hotplug directly I also get a seg fault
Oct 09 04:35:53 <eFfeM> but i see that devices are added in the log
Oct 09 04:36:10 <eFfeM> btw alternately you can make a dir /etc/hotplug.d/default and make a file default.hotplug
Oct 09 04:36:18 <eFfeM> that will also show you all other devices
Oct 09 04:55:45 <cheef_daniel> do you have a folder /etc/hotplug?
Oct 09 04:57:00 <eFfeM> no
Oct 09 04:57:30 <cheef_daniel> it looks like no USB devices are recognized during boot
Oct 09 04:58:24 <eFfeM> if you make the default/default.hotplug file you definitely see devices
Oct 09 04:58:39 <cheef_daniel> http://pastebin.com/387966
Oct 09 04:59:05 <cheef_daniel> thats the contents of LOG2
Oct 09 05:00:37 <cheef_daniel> only the files in the /etc.hotplug/default folder get parsed, when I do the usb.hotplug file in /etc/hotplug.d/usb/ it's not get parsed
Oct 09 05:00:38 <eFfeM> hmm, looks good
Oct 09 05:00:51 <eFfeM> I see nothing odd, but also no new files
Oct 09 05:01:12 <eFfeM> mine contains also
Oct 09 05:01:14 <eFfeM> ACTION='add'
Oct 09 05:01:14 <eFfeM> DEVPATH='/module/pvrusb2'
Oct 09 05:01:24 <eFfeM> which is for my hw pvr
Oct 09 05:01:31 <eFfeM> did you do depmod -a ?
Oct 09 05:01:36 <cheef_daniel> yes
Oct 09 05:02:05 <cheef_daniel> but I could not see differnce after that
Oct 09 05:02:14 <eFfeM> hm, then I am out of ideas
Oct 09 05:02:32 <eFfeM> gotta go now, back later
Oct 09 08:14:19 <cheef_daniel> somebody in who could help me with hotplug?
Oct 09 08:46:19 <eFfeM> hi anyone an idea why libtool on nslu2 native would try to include /home/repvik/nslu2/releases/OpenSlug-2.5-beta/tmp/cross/armeb-linux/lib/libstdc++.la
Oct 09 08:46:36 <cheef_daniel> hi eFfeM
Oct 09 08:47:04 <eFfeM> hi cheef_daniel 
Oct 09 08:47:27 <cheef_daniel> I think here is nobody else 'physical' in channel
Oct 09 08:47:35 <eFfeM> i'm still trying to get this ivman compiling, I'm now sidetracked in updating libusb
Oct 09 08:47:58 <eFfeM> nope. sunday is often a more popular day though
Oct 09 08:48:16 <eFfeM> then again for the us people (esp. west coast) it is still quite early
Oct 09 08:48:51 <eFfeM> I'm in europe (GMT+2)
Oct 09 08:49:04 <cheef_daniel> me to
Oct 09 08:49:08 <cheef_daniel> hallo
Oct 09 08:49:47 <cheef_daniel> ciao?
Oct 09 08:50:06 <eFfeM> cheef_daniel, you're talking to me?
Oct 09 08:50:25 <cheef_daniel> trying to find out which country ;-)
Oct 09 08:50:38 <eFfeM> NL
Oct 09 08:51:43 <cheef_daniel> I never been there, but it's nice there
Oct 09 08:51:59 <eFfeM> where are u from?
Oct 09 08:52:12 <cheef_daniel> germany
Oct 09 08:52:19 <Tiersten> uh guys.  you can use /whois you know...
Oct 09 08:52:23 <bullet> hint: /whois ...
Oct 09 08:52:27 <cheef_daniel> yeah I know
Oct 09 08:52:29 <Tiersten> heh
Oct 09 08:52:56 <eFfeM> hi Tiersten 
Oct 09 08:53:02 <Tiersten> Hi
Oct 09 08:54:58 <eFfeM> do you happen to have any idea on libtool and /home/repvik ?
Oct 09 08:55:40 <Tiersten> Sounds like the package is broken or not configured properly in your system
Oct 09 08:55:48 <Tiersten> repvik = NAiL
Oct 09 08:56:27 <eFfeM> oh sh*t he went away half an hour before I reported the problem
Oct 09 08:56:40 <eFfeM> configure uses the output of gcc -v </dev/null
Oct 09 08:56:54 <cheef_daniel> could it be that is apache for openslug is broken too?
Oct 09 08:57:31 <eFfeM> well, my apache is still running. I think I installed the 2.5 package before I moved to the head
Oct 09 08:59:18 <cheef_daniel> hm I tryed it to build it with bb, natively on nslu2, but after the configure_task i got one error (openslug 2.7beta)
Oct 09 09:00:05 <eFfeM> i definitely did not build native, could have build cross. however I did build php native 
Oct 09 09:01:02 <cheef_daniel> when I tryed to build it via crossbuild and bb I get some message that apache can only build natively
Oct 09 09:01:36 <eFfeM> hmm very odd
Oct 09 09:01:55 <cheef_daniel> I think my native build env is for trash
Oct 09 09:04:45 <eFfeM> just start again from the master makefile in a fresh dir
Oct 09 09:09:24 <eFfeM> can't get libusb to compile natively, but just discovered the version I need is already in oe, so now did a crossbuild
Oct 09 09:15:24 <cheef_daniel> I think I do a native compile on unslung for libusb
Oct 09 09:15:35 <cheef_daniel> it worked fine
Oct 09 09:16:09 <eFfeM> well for me with libusb0.1.10a I get this error from libtool, so I now got a cross compiled version
Oct 09 09:16:43 <eFfeM> if it is already in oe this is easy for me. if not, I am kinda stuck. Don't know how to craft my own bb file or call the cross tools
Oct 09 09:18:33 <Tiersten> I've never tried so don't bother asking me :)
Oct 09 09:19:08 <cheef_daniel> eFfeM I think my module problem is gone
Oct 09 09:19:33 <cheef_daniel> I entered the module names in /etc/modules and they get now loaded at boot
Oct 09 09:20:09 <Tiersten> Your best bet is to read other package .bb's and see how they're written.  I don't think it's that complicated
Oct 09 09:20:16 <eFfeM> Tiersten, for the moment I am a happy camper with the native dev env
Oct 09 09:20:38 <eFfeM> i've been peeking at it, but never bothered to give it a real try
Oct 09 09:20:42 <eFfeM> lazy ....
Oct 09 09:21:13 <Tiersten> heh
Oct 09 09:21:28 <eFfeM> cheef_daniel, I never did that
Oct 09 09:21:40 <eFfeM> actually your msg triggered me to peek into my copy and it says:
Oct 09 09:21:59 <eFfeM> slug@NSLU2:/etc$ more modules
Oct 09 09:21:59 <eFfeM> ### This file is automatically generated by update-modules"
Oct 09 09:21:59 <eFfeM> #
Oct 09 09:21:59 <eFfeM> # Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add
Oct 09 09:21:59 <eFfeM> # anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read
Oct 09 09:22:00 <eFfeM> # the manpage for update-modules.
Oct 09 09:22:14 <eFfeM> that's all there is in my copy!
Oct 09 09:23:19 <cheef_daniel> in my too
Oct 09 09:23:40 <cheef_daniel>  but sometimes you must ignore such messages
Oct 09 09:24:28 <eFfeM> have you tried running update-modules (not that I did that ever)
Oct 09 09:24:44 <cheef_daniel> the commandd did not exists
Oct 09 09:24:51 <cheef_daniel> I tryed it first
Oct 09 09:25:55 <eFfeM> slug@NSLU2:/usr/public/tmp/hal-0.5.4$ whereis update-modules
Oct 09 09:25:55 <eFfeM> update-modules: /usr/sbin/update-modules
Oct 09 09:26:00 <eFfeM> so on my system it is ...
Oct 09 09:26:35 <Tiersten> it's a package you can install
Oct 09 09:26:51 <cheef_daniel> oh you're right, but it did'nt do anything whats usefull for me
Oct 09 09:29:01 <Tiersten> It's not hugely important that you didn't use it.  It just does some admin tasks for you automatically
Oct 09 09:31:10 <cheef_daniel> hm after using this tool, my /etc/modules is now empty
Oct 09 09:31:36 <Tiersten> That's because it recreates it
Oct 09 09:31:46 <Tiersten> If you added anything in manually then you'd lose it which is the reason for the warning
Oct 09 09:32:27 <cheef_daniel> but where could I add the modules so they are loading during boot?
Oct 09 09:32:47 <cheef_daniel> modprobe snd in init.d didn'T work too
Oct 09 09:33:12 <eFfeM> did you do insmod and depmod?
Oct 09 09:33:34 <cheef_daniel> no, I do modprobe and then depmod -a
Oct 09 09:34:16 <Tiersten> Look in /etc/modutils
Oct 09 09:34:41 <eFfeM> i always insert new modules with insmod
Oct 09 09:35:18 <cheef_daniel> and they are loaded automatic when you next time reboot?
Oct 09 09:35:34 <Tiersten> You have to then run update-modules
Oct 09 09:36:38 <cheef_daniel> is it normal that I must specify the path when doing insmod?
Oct 09 09:37:31 <cheef_daniel> eg. insmod pl2303 didnt work but modprobw pl2303 works
Oct 09 09:38:23 <eFfeM> yes
Oct 09 09:39:16 <eFfeM> i always cd to the dir with the .ko file and then say insmod pvrusb.ko (or whatever the name of your module is)
Oct 09 09:39:41 <Tiersten> Use depmod to generate the dependancies list and after that use modprobe
Oct 09 09:39:42 <cheef_daniel> hm, ok thats the same
Oct 09 09:46:58 <cheef_daniel> ok I am doing it this: 1. insmod /lib/modules.../usbserial.ko 2. insmod /lib/modules.../pl2303.ko 3.depmod 4. modprobe usbserial 5. modprobe pl2303 but after reboot the modules are loaded
Oct 09 09:47:18 <Tiersten> Why are you still doing insmod?
Oct 09 09:47:28 <cheef_daniel> want to say are not loaded
Oct 09 09:47:49 <Tiersten> It should tell you why it's not loading a module
Oct 09 10:00:01 <cheef_daniel> ok I have searched the whole /var/log/messages but can't find something what there should not be
Oct 09 10:00:20 <cheef_daniel> and the usb-devices are recognized well at boottime
Oct 09 10:10:09 <cheef_daniel> when I execute /etc/init.d/modutils.sh manually I  an empty message: "Loading modules:" but noting more
Oct 09 10:51:33 <cheef_daniel> okay, I tryed now loading the modules from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
Oct 09 10:52:52 <cheef_daniel> the modules load at startup, but the programs can't access the device. for example alsamixer: No such device
Oct 09 11:49:15 <Jacmet> FYI - I've added a page about serial-less installation of little endian Debian (using netconsole) - see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/SerialLessInstallation
Oct 09 15:57:06 <CIA-8> 03dlubinski * 10unslung/sources/knock/rc.knockd: rc.knockd: Fixed a typo
Oct 09 16:00:13 <CIA-8> 03dlubinski * 10unslung/make/knock.mk: knock.mk: Removed wrong libpcap dep;added man pages
Oct 09 16:04:45 <CIA-8> 03dlubinski * 10unslung/Makefile: knock: remove libpcap dep;add man pages
Oct 09 17:50:59 <cheef_daniel> is there somewhere a mirror for nslu2-linux.db.gz?
Oct 09 17:54:34 <rwhitby-away> cheef_daniel: something wrong with http://sources.nslu2-linux.org/monotone/nslu2-linux.db.gz ?
Oct 09 17:55:47 <cheef_daniel> mh, now where you are here not, but before I have a speed around 2-10 kb/s
Oct 09 17:56:00 <cheef_daniel> now I have fullspeed
Oct 09 17:56:25 <rwhitby-away> more likely at your end - sources.nslu2-linux.org has three very big links onto the backbone
Oct 09 17:57:09 <cheef_daniel> maybe
Oct 09 17:57:30 * rwhitby-away shrugs
Oct 09 17:58:48 <cheef_daniel> I tryed on in different times, on other servers I had/have fullspeed
Oct 09 17:59:09 <rwhitby-away> that's the beauty of the internet ...
Oct 09 17:59:15 <cheef_daniel> but it's finished already
Oct 09 18:00:09 <cheef_daniel> palm is working with terminal for input
Oct 09 19:08:11 <cheef_daniel> is monotone.nslu2-linux.org down? I am getting: connection refused
Oct 09 19:09:59 <rwhitby-away> try now
Oct 09 19:11:15 <cheef_daniel> ok now its there, what happens?
Oct 09 19:11:35 <rwhitby-away> I fixed it
Oct 09 19:12:56 <cheef_daniel> thanks
Oct 09 19:13:18 <rwhitby-away> np
Oct 09 19:13:48 <cheef_daniel> I heared that my provider has today a few connection/traffic troubles, I think thats why it is sometimes slow
Oct 09 19:15:47 <cheef_daniel> are there differences between natively and crossbuild packages?
Oct 09 19:16:42 <rwhitby-away> default is to cross-compile (due to the compile time).  some packages cannot be easily cross-compiled, and are there compiled natively.
Oct 09 19:17:14 <cheef_daniel> ...for example Apache
Oct 09 19:17:15 <[g2-nta]> hey rwhitby-away 
Oct 09 19:18:23 <cheef_daniel> he won't talk with you? ;)
Oct 09 19:18:45 <[g2-nta]> hhe
Oct 09 19:19:07 <[g2-nta]> rwhitby-away wb
Oct 09 19:20:19 <[g2-nta]> well off to do a little reading
Oct 09 19:20:36 <cheef_daniel> I don't know if its a bug or a linux-feature: some usb-related modules wont load at boot
Oct 09 19:21:03 <[g2-nta]> cheef_daniel theres a difference between coldplug and hotplug
Oct 09 19:21:09 <CIA-8> 03koen 07org.openembedded.dev * rfc687636... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: preferred-gpe-versions-2.7: prefer gpe-login-0.83
Oct 09 19:21:11 <[g2-nta]> coldpulg being startup
Oct 09 19:21:26 <cheef_daniel> yes but coldplug is a part tof hotplug
Oct 09 19:21:56 <cheef_daniel> I read about it today on the web
Oct 09 19:22:06 <[g2-nta]> well I don't think all the issues are sorted out with it
Oct 09 19:22:37 <[g2-nta]> for openslug last I checked we used hotplug-ng which iis different and way faster than the old hotpug scripts
Oct 09 19:23:14 <cheef_daniel> I have some kernel-modules like the snd-* or pl2303 modules which are only loaded when I replug my devices when the nslu2 is up
Oct 09 19:23:21 <[g2-nta]> hotplug-ng took like 30-40 seconds off the booting times
Oct 09 19:23:24 <cheef_daniel> (openslug 2.7 beta)
Oct 09 19:24:25 <[g2-nta]> theres a file in  /etc/ I think it's modules you can just add them there and they'll be loaded at boot
Oct 09 19:24:29 <cheef_daniel> I have added modprobe ... to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
Oct 09 19:25:00 <[g2-nta]> I'm no modules wizard, but I think the modules files is the proper place
Oct 09 19:25:02 <cheef_daniel> no /etc/modules is a auto-generated file
Oct 09 19:25:18 <[g2-nta]> there's another one
Oct 09 19:25:27 <cheef_daniel> has to with update-modules
Oct 09 19:25:37 <cheef_daniel> all autogenerated
Oct 09 19:25:52 <cheef_daniel> but it works in bootmisc.sh
Oct 09 19:25:54 <[g2-nta]> there's yet another
Oct 09 19:26:03 <cheef_daniel> modprobe.conf
Oct 09 19:26:13 <[g2-nta]> that may be it
Oct 09 19:26:31 <cheef_daniel> I testet all but nothing happens at boot
Oct 09 19:26:36 <[g2-nta]> Is there an aliias in there for eth0 ixp425_eth ?
Oct 09 19:26:58 <cheef_daniel> thats in modprobe.conf or modules
Oct 09 19:27:20 <cheef_daniel> its in modprobe.conf
Oct 09 19:27:40 <[g2-nta]> I think you can just add the module name inthere
Oct 09 19:27:59 <cheef_daniel> I tryed it but  didn't work for me
Oct 09 19:28:39 <cheef_daniel> but my palm only works with this modprobe in bootmisc.sh
Oct 09 19:28:59 <cheef_daniel> (it is on a USB2serial converter)
Oct 09 19:29:18 <[g2-nta]> I'd have to double check and the only slug I've got running is the webserver
Oct 09 19:29:32 <[g2-nta]> hmm and that's running ODS
Oct 09 19:30:00 <[g2-nta]> I've got a slug or two around, but I'm running Loft's these days
Oct 09 19:30:21 <[g2-nta]> and this new thin-client turned debian box 
Oct 09 19:31:24 <cheef_daniel> which webserver do you have?
Oct 09 19:31:40 <[g2-nta]> thttpd for now well this thing is probably gonna run 24/7 
Oct 09 19:31:49 <cheef_daniel> on openslug?
Oct 09 19:31:50 <bullet> cheef_daniel: do you know lighttpd?
Oct 09 19:31:50 <[g2-nta]> oops...
Oct 09 19:31:52 <[g2-nta]> ODS
Oct 09 19:32:00 <bullet> small, fast webserver...
Oct 09 19:32:00 <cheef_daniel> bullet: no
Oct 09 19:32:02 <[g2-nta]> open debian slug
Oct 09 19:32:09 <cheef_daniel> but I will look for it
Oct 09 19:32:33 <[g2-nta]> I'm just running some simple CSS and it's fast
Oct 09 19:32:56 <[g2-nta]> the little slug (turbo'ed iirc) serves up full T1 rates
Oct 09 19:33:05 <[g2-nta]> and doesn't breath hard
Oct 09 19:33:25 <cheef_daniel> does it have php?
Oct 09 19:33:28 <[g2-nta]> but that's no PHP,MySQL,Perl, dynamic pages etc.
Oct 09 19:33:50 <cheef_daniel> I need one with it
Oct 09 19:33:56 <[g2-nta]> I'll be switching over to a Loft soon
Oct 09 19:34:01 <cheef_daniel> I can't get apache to compile
Oct 09 19:34:14 <[g2-nta]> Apache compiles natively well
Oct 09 19:34:14 <bullet> lighttpd does php, through fastcgi or cgi
Oct 09 19:34:40 <cheef_daniel> i try it
Oct 09 19:34:46 <[g2-nta]> I had Apache2/php/openssl all built on openslug
Oct 09 19:35:02 <cheef_daniel> do you build it natively?
Oct 09 19:35:08 <[g2-nta]> yes
Oct 09 19:35:44 <cheef_daniel> im trying to run the 'make setup' from Master Makefile
Oct 09 19:35:45 <[g2-nta]> I think it's all in the unofficial debian BE repo too
Oct 09 19:36:45 <cheef_daniel> but afer it installs monotone I get this error:
Oct 09 19:36:47 <cheef_daniel> monotone: read from fd 4 (peer monotone.nslu2-linux.org) closed OK after goodbye
Oct 09 19:36:48 <cheef_daniel> [ -e MT/revision ] || ( monotone -d monotone/nslu2-linux.db co -b org.nslu2-linux.dev . )
Oct 09 19:36:48 <cheef_daniel> touch MT/.configured
Oct 09 19:36:48 <cheef_daniel> [ -e bitbake/bin/bitbake ] || monotone co -b org.nslu2-linux.bitbake bitbake
Oct 09 19:36:48 <cheef_daniel> touch bitbake/.configured
Oct 09 19:36:48 <cheef_daniel> [ -e openembedded/conf/machine/nslu2.conf ] || monotone co -b org.openembedded.dev openembedded
Oct 09 19:36:50 <cheef_daniel> Killed
Oct 09 19:36:52 <cheef_daniel> make: *** [setup-openembedded] Error 137
Oct 09 19:37:33 <cheef_daniel> so I can't get the native build env to work
Oct 09 19:37:51 <jbowler> Got swap?
Oct 09 19:38:07 <cheef_daniel> yes I should have
Oct 09 19:38:54 <cheef_daniel> how big it should be?
Oct 09 19:39:50 <jbowler> Big enough not to get error 137?  (What is that? - 128+9?, what's 9?)
Oct 09 19:41:32 <[g2-nta]> nite all
Oct 09 19:41:48 <cheef_daniel> gn8
Oct 09 19:44:04 <jbowler> 9 is SIGKILL, that doesn't help a lot - look in the log (i.e. logread or /var/log/messages or dmesg), that will say.
Oct 09 19:44:33 <cheef_daniel> ok you are right
Oct 09 19:44:39 <cheef_daniel> its the swap
Oct 09 21:39:19 <rwhitby-away> Jacmet: ping
Oct 09 21:40:55 <cheef_daniel> I think there are some ipkg packages not with ipkg downloadble, when I use wget it works (openssl stuff, openslug 2.7)
Oct 09 21:41:21 <rwhitby-away> cross or native feed?
Oct 09 21:41:30 <cheef_daniel> native
Oct 09 21:41:47 <rwhitby-away> are they in the Packages file?
Oct 09 21:44:40 <cheef_daniel> ipkg trys to get them from the native feed, i think the files dosn't exist on server, so I loaded the crossbuild instead
Oct 09 21:44:57 <cheef_daniel> with wget and installed them after that with ipkg
Oct 09 21:45:21 <rwhitby-away> are the packages in the native feed Packages file?
Oct 09 21:45:34 <cheef_daniel> where is that file?
Oct 09 21:45:50 <rwhitby-away> same directory as the ipks
Oct 09 21:48:22 <rwhitby-away> hmm - yep there's something wrong with the 2.7 native feed - let NAiLzZz know when you see him
Oct 09 21:48:37 <cheef_daniel> ok
Oct 09 22:01:49 <cheef_daniel> n8
Oct 09 22:13:33 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: yes?
Oct 09 22:40:22 <rwhitby-away> Jacmet: how do you get your usb ethernet dongle recognised by the debian LE kernel?
Oct 09 22:41:12 <rwhitby-away> I have an SMC EZUSB ethernet dongle (pegasus driver) and the dongle doesn't do anything until the kernel module is loaded
Oct 09 22:41:37 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: ehh, like always by compiling in usbnet support
Oct 09 22:41:53 <rwhitby-away> Jacmet: I was using the kernel image from your web page
Oct 09 22:41:53 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: I just compile in usbnet i the kernel instead of as a module
Oct 09 22:42:14 <rwhitby-away> does the kernel on your web page have pegasus compiled in?
Oct 09 22:42:26 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: it could be that I didn't compile in pegasus support - I have a dlink dub-e100
Oct 09 22:42:27 <rwhitby-away> (I'm trying to try out your netconsole image)
Oct 09 22:43:17 <rwhitby-away> I want to try and put the kernel and netconsole image together as a flashable image
Oct 09 22:44:34 <rwhitby-away> Jacmet: can you check whether it has pegasus support in there?
Oct 09 22:46:58 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away:  CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS=m
Oct 09 22:47:04 <Jacmet> so no, not in the kernel
Oct 09 22:47:44 <rwhitby-away> any chance you could do me a kernel with it in there?
Oct 09 22:48:00 <rwhitby-away> (I'm not set up for LE compilation)
Oct 09 22:48:07 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: regarding combining them - that should work - that's also how I imagined we would do it
Oct 09 22:48:32 <rwhitby-away> I want to take the latest d-i source, add an nslu2 configuration (le) and package it up
Oct 09 22:48:34 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: that doesn't matter - I use the same toolchain as the BE people (crosstool)
Oct 09 22:49:07 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: I can do it for you, but I have to leave for work now, so it won't be before tonighy
Oct 09 22:49:22 <rwhitby-away> Jacmet: I would appreciate it, thanks.
Oct 09 22:49:36 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: ok, I'll do it tonight then
Oct 09 22:50:10 <rwhitby-away> since we don't have enough unstable packages built BE for me to progress with the installer or kernel packages, I figure I can continue with LE and get that done.
Oct 09 22:50:51 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: sounds good, and it should be easy to move to armeb afterwards
Oct 09 22:51:34 <rwhitby-away> yep - maybe if I can get some of the changes into debian though the debian-arm guys, then it will be ready to just compile when armeb has enough unstable packages compiled
Oct 09 22:52:11 <rwhitby-away> Jacmet: do you have a name for the LE debian on slug distro (like OpenDebianSlug for the BE distro)?
Oct 10 00:33:14 <giel> hey
Oct 10 00:33:22 <giel> what's the status of the clock-problem on openslug?
Oct 10 00:33:38 <giel> iow, i'm running openslug 2.5, how do i fix my clock skew?
Oct 10 00:34:16 <giel> i don't mind running a more recent version, i already have an oe dev branch in which i compile software
Oct 10 00:40:48 <jelle> I'd switch to 2.7 anyway. I thought the clock was fixed, but I'm not sure. Can't you synch the clock with an ntp server?
Oct 10 00:41:19 <giel> yeah ofcourse, but it annoys me that the clock skews like 20 mins every 24 hours :)
Oct 10 00:41:55 <jelle> the wiki says it has been fixed... http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FixTheClockUsingAdjtimexAndNtpclient
Oct 10 00:42:06 <jelle> it is annoying indeed
Oct 10 00:42:21 <giel> hm, okay, but i never know how up to date it is
Oct 10 00:42:26 <giel> let me rephrase my question
Oct 10 00:42:40 <giel> in the wiki it says that the clock skew is fixed in the HEAD branch
Oct 10 00:42:44 <giel> what exactly was the fix?
Oct 10 00:42:45 <giel> :)
Oct 10 00:43:45 <giel> i nm, i've found the bugzilla report
Oct 10 00:48:04 <giel> okay, thanks, i've got all the info i wanted for now
Oct 10 01:01:12 <CIA-8> 03hrw 07org.openembedded.dev * rc7e95435... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files): 
Oct 10 01:01:12 <CIA-8> openzaurus-sa, openzaurus-pxa, opensimpad-2.4.xx: fix SRC_URI of openswan kernel patch
Oct 10 01:01:13 <CIA-8> - upstream released 2.4.0 but we did not tested it yet
Oct 10 01:51:10 <CIA-8> 03koen 07org.openembedded.dev * r6215b40a... 10/packages/abiword/ (10 files in 6 dirs): abiword: add 2.4.1, move patch to files/ and remove 2.0.14, 2.2.7, 2.3.5, 2.3.99 and 2.4.0
Oct 10 02:11:12 <CIA-8> 03koen 07org.openembedded.dev * ra522734e... 10/packages/gnome/goffice_0.0.4.bb: goffice: add 0.0.4
Oct 10 02:16:11 <CIA-8> 03koen 07org.openembedded.dev * r8c270d58... 10/packages/gnumeric/ (files/remove-docs.patch gnumeric_1.5.90.bb): gnumeric: add 1.5.90 + patch
Oct 10 02:29:58 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: no, not really - debian/arm or DebianSlug ?
Oct 10 02:30:07 <Jacmet> rwhitby-away: it doesn't really matter to me
Oct 10 02:49:28 <rwhitby-away> Jacmet: fair enough
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