**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 04 10:59:57 2006 Feb 04 11:35:52 hi marceln Feb 04 11:36:24 we still need to exchange some info for april 1 Feb 04 11:37:00 marceln: you were looking for me? Feb 04 11:38:53 need to know what will be available and what I have to bring myself Feb 04 11:39:12 also i'll probably bring 2 more people with me Feb 04 11:41:36 Yes and Yes Feb 04 11:42:00 rwhitby, is it possible that S40networking stalls if there is no cable connected? I tried to make a S41pegasus to fire up my usb-to-ethernet, but this one only started working after I connected the ethernet cable to the slug. also other scripts did not start Feb 04 11:42:13 eFfeM: We have a alv this month. After that i will work on the slug meeting. Feb 04 11:43:17 rwhitby: I gave a small lecture about nslu2-linux to a clossed group of people. Feb 04 11:43:44 marceln: dunno about the networking stall Feb 04 11:43:54 marceln: can you send me any slides you presented? Feb 04 11:43:54 This was a group of ex colleges. Feb 04 11:44:21 After that lectures i noticed about 10 downloads from cisco. Feb 04 11:44:22 marceln, good; when you are there it might be good to check out which of the following can be made available Feb 04 11:44:41 internet connection, tv signal, beamer, tv Feb 04 11:44:54 depending on what is there, I can prepare a demo Feb 04 11:45:07 The slides are on "http://pion.xs4all.nl/lezingen/nslu2-xi2006.pdf" but the are in "dutch". Feb 04 11:46:44 eFfeM: We have internet and a beamer. But probably i need a second one. But probably i can use the beamer from my work. Feb 04 11:48:39 heh Feb 04 11:48:52 * NAiL can kinda understand dutch :-P Feb 04 11:50:03 marceln, if you can't get a 2nd beamer, let me know and I'll try to borrow one Feb 04 11:50:30 if there is antenna signal I can show that the thing actually records Feb 04 11:51:13 I am not sure about that. I will have a look on the next meeting in februari Feb 04 11:51:14 and with a tv I can show playback fron the slug using twonkyvision. I can bring a digital media adapter. Feb 04 11:51:46 marceln, that's why I was putting the question now Feb 04 11:54:06 marceln, nice presentation. promised to tell something to a bunch of Origin guys about my setup. Probably I'll use it as a rehearsel for april 1 (or the other way around :-) ) Feb 04 11:56:36 I just post a other message about the meeting on the mailinglist. Feb 04 11:56:39 anyone knowldegeable about serial? is max232cpe what I need ? Feb 04 11:57:06 marceln, great Feb 04 11:57:27 You mean serial access to the console? Feb 04 11:58:01 yes Feb 04 11:58:40 max3232 - it has to be 3.3V Feb 04 11:58:45 i acquired a small pcb with this chip, some elco's and an rs232 plug Feb 04 11:59:26 marceln, did you post on nslu2-general? can't see it yet Feb 04 12:00:00 Well. I used MAX232N and it works. Feb 04 12:00:56 But you need to get the power directly from the power line and not from the first pin. Feb 04 12:01:43 I used "nslu2-linux@yahoogroups.com" is there also a nslu2-general? Feb 04 12:02:40 yes Feb 04 12:02:58 NAIL: yes? what. Feb 04 12:03:13 nslu2-general Feb 04 12:05:33 max3232 has two drivers in it (I'm browsing the datasheet right now) Feb 04 12:06:41 if you use a max232 *AND* power it with 5V, you are sure to blow up the IXP eventually. Putting 5V TTL into a LVTTL devices is asking for trouble. Feb 04 12:06:59 Using a 3232 is the best. Feb 04 12:08:15 effem yep theres 2 in there, in case you have something that needs hardware handshaking. so in theory you could use one 3232 for 2 slugs. :-) Feb 04 12:08:28 Duct Tape 'em together. Feb 04 12:10:14 dyoung, no need to have two of these. actually just wanted to know if the 232 i had is any good Feb 04 12:10:40 If you power it with 3.3V you wonto be in danger of blowing up your IXP; but it will be flaky. Feb 04 12:11:19 My original serial adapter was a 232' but it was kinda flaky so I buffered it with a extra 'LV244 Feb 04 12:12:25 http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/UBESSA/IMG_0338 Feb 04 12:13:00 it is ineed a 5v device i could not find anything about Vmin, but on the pcb I see that they also bring vcc to the rs232 connector Feb 04 12:14:04 probably better to try to find something else, don't want to mess with this board Feb 04 12:14:26 we've had good luck with phone cables. Feb 04 12:14:52 http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/RS1700787 is the one I'm u sually using these days Feb 04 12:15:53 yeah, i think i saw that before Feb 04 12:18:19 heh heh. I like the program for Slug Day Feb 04 12:19:28 dyoung, good reason to come over to NL ? Feb 04 12:20:06 Hmm. Feb 04 12:20:36 I barely can read dutch. Feb 04 12:20:47 hearing it will make my brain break. Feb 04 12:21:10 Although it would be a nice trip. Feb 04 12:21:34 well marceln wrote in the nslu2-linux message: Feb 04 12:21:34 The language will be dutch unless we get request to switch to Feb 04 12:21:34 English. Feb 04 12:21:48 Oh yeah that reminds me.. Lennert was supposed to send me a mp3 of his name so i dont mangle it next week. Feb 04 12:22:58 dyoung, his first name is easy; it sounds quite similar to Leonard (as in Leonard Cohen, the singer) Feb 04 12:23:06 but his last name will break your tongue ... Feb 04 12:23:12 heh heh. thats what he said. Feb 04 12:23:20 I can say Lennert just fine. :-) Feb 04 12:23:38 its that buy part that will give problems Feb 04 12:23:52 He said he doesnt care; but I still dont like mangling peoples names. Feb 04 12:24:48 well, with a name like that you'll probably get used to it. I'm getting used to mine being mangled Feb 04 12:25:39 heh. I still wish to put forth my best effort. :-) Feb 04 12:25:45 imagine the following scenario: order cab in hotel, hotel calls cab company, that needs to pass the name to the driver. by the time they get there it is completely different Feb 04 12:26:12 if a cabbie pops in and asks for a name an no-one reacts I normally take it if it sounds only a little bit familiar :-) Feb 04 12:27:04 dyoung, you mentioned the serial cable. Are these the ones for e.g. nokia 3310 etc Feb 04 12:27:35 saw this one at ebay: http://cgi.ebay.nl/NOKIA-3310-3315-3330-3410-SERIAL-PORT-DATA-CABLE_W0QQitemZ5860871852QQcategoryZ20366QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Feb 04 12:27:54 only 3 pounds so roughly 5 euro/ $6 Feb 04 12:28:07 Theyre the ones with a USB on one side, with a lump in the middle. the phone side will be cut off so is not relevent. Feb 04 12:28:42 Hmm, its hard to tell if that one has a USB/Serial thingo in it. It might have a Serial thingo in it. Feb 04 12:29:20 If you need a USB/Serial cable, we might be able to help.... Feb 04 12:29:26 dyoung, why would I want usb/serial? I just need a level converter isn't it Feb 04 12:29:44 what I currently have is a small board with the 232 that I borrowed from work Feb 04 12:29:46 Dunno, I like the USB Serial ones because I dont have serial ports on the laptop Feb 04 12:29:55 but as that is the 5v thing it is probably no good Feb 04 12:30:03 and you can plug it into your control slug or asus router Feb 04 12:30:15 oh yeah that too. :-) Feb 04 12:30:22 ah, that is interesting Feb 04 12:30:45 my laptop still has serial Feb 04 12:31:05 ssh wirelessly to router, run microcom to talk to RedBoot on slug Feb 04 12:31:21 dyoung, the cable you are using, for which phone was that originally? Feb 04 12:36:08 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddASerialPort has some models. Feb 04 12:36:18 mine was for the Nokia 3285 and 585 Feb 04 12:36:20 5185 Feb 04 12:37:02 tnx Feb 04 12:38:11 forgot about this wiki page, might also try to get a siemens cable, as i'm close to DE these might be more easy to get Feb 04 12:39:05 s/forgot/I forgot/ Feb 04 12:39:05 eFfeM meant: I forgot about this wiki page, might also try to get a siemens cable, as i'm close to DE these might be more easy to get Feb 04 12:39:21 (not: forget about :-) :-) ) Feb 04 12:39:53 Good Plan Feb 04 13:13:34 ~emulate rwhitby Feb 04 13:13:37 Another Satisfied Customer! Feb 04 13:13:45 not that one Feb 04 13:13:49 ~emulate rwhitby Feb 04 13:13:51 Another Satisfied Customer! Feb 04 13:13:55 ~emulate rwhitby Feb 04 13:14:04 ~emulate rwhitby Feb 04 13:14:06 Another Satisfied Customer! Feb 04 13:14:15 hmm Feb 04 13:14:19 maybe jobot forgot Feb 04 13:14:39 ~emulate rwhitby Feb 04 13:14:40 Another Satisfied Customer! Feb 04 13:14:48 Yep, guess he forgot. Feb 04 13:15:06 "My work here is done." Feb 04 15:12:24 Is there someone here from the build farm? Feb 04 15:15:11 wget-ssl isn't in the package list after my upgrade to 1.10.2 Feb 04 15:16:14 unslung/openslug? Feb 04 15:16:30 unslung Feb 04 15:17:00 I fear that the build on the farm failed. Feb 04 15:17:53 I did a update: Feb 04 15:18:21 CVS> revision 1.5 Feb 04 15:18:21 CVS> date: 2006/01/30 22:38:41; author: marceln; state: Exp; lines: +5 -3 Feb 04 15:18:21 CVS> Newer upstream version with a security fix. Feb 04 15:19:28 yeah, the autobuilds are failing right now. I'm looking into it. Feb 04 15:20:40 All or just the wget-ssl? Feb 04 15:21:29 *** Errors during autobuild: openslug debianslug ucslugc unslung optware/wl500g *** Feb 04 15:30:15 this is why it fails: Feb 04 15:30:15 ERROR: Nothing provides dependency file-native Feb 04 15:30:16 ERROR: dependency file-native (for unslung-packages) not satisfied Feb 04 15:36:25 ~emulate rwhitby Feb 04 15:36:28 Well, my work here is done. Feb 04 16:46:07 oh... the autobuilds aren't running at all. I guess it's the transition to the new server that is the reason. Feb 04 17:17:33 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/py-roundup.mk: roundup upgraded to 1.0.1 Feb 04 21:59:39 nslu2-linux.org just has the default apache2 index.html. Perhaps a virtual host with www.nslu2-linux.org should be added? Feb 04 22:01:38 yup Feb 04 22:02:07 i have tried building the intel ipp-samples on the slug. After creating links to the gcc/g++ compiler it runs buildxscale_be.sh. But compiling fails with "[: ==: binary operator expected". What is the difference between the cross-compiler and the native on-slug gcc ? Feb 04 22:02:17 philips, any progress on your audio? I gave up on mine and am awaiting an el-cheapo dongle from ebay (HK) Feb 04 22:03:54 eFfeM: Just got a chance to work on it today Feb 04 22:04:11 eFfeM: Monotone repo seems broken ATM however, monotone: misuse: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads Feb 04 22:04:37 eFfeM: need to figure out how to work around that... Feb 04 22:05:43 As soon as I get monotone up and running on my box I could fix that. Or if I had the darn laptop PSU handy :-P Feb 04 22:06:12 oh... eFfeM... You've got write-access, don't you? Feb 04 22:07:56 philips: which server are you syncing agains? Feb 04 22:07:58 against? Feb 04 22:08:40 monotone.nslu2-linux.org, using MasterMakefile Feb 04 22:09:44 sorry was away for a moment Feb 04 22:10:15 NAiL, I indeed have write access Feb 04 22:10:31 Could you merge the heads? Feb 04 22:10:35 let me check (or help me out with the right cmd) Feb 04 22:10:48 monotone pull && monotone merge Feb 04 22:11:05 then monotone update, IIRC Feb 04 22:11:06 :) Feb 04 22:11:20 mt head says: Feb 04 22:11:21 monotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged: Feb 04 22:11:21 8fb0e135d3da67bc1fa37bd6ad67902d8cf02bcb eFfeM@openembedded.org 2006-02-04T14:07:40 Feb 04 22:11:35 but let me try the pull Feb 04 22:13:08 philips, when did you try this? Feb 04 22:13:23 eFfeM: I just did a clean checkout about 10 minutes ago Feb 04 22:13:31 philips, thinking of it, this can also happen if you made local chagnes Feb 04 22:13:50 i'm doing a new pull as we write Feb 04 22:13:59 brand new build directory... Feb 04 22:14:53 ok Feb 04 22:15:21 btw if someone here is looking for serial and does not want to have much hassle. check this out: http://cgi.ebay.nl/RS232-to-3-3-5v-TTL-Converter-Cable-Max3232-inside_W0QQitemZ7558506293QQcategoryZ50915QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Feb 04 22:18:47 ok, the head is indeed not merged, merging it right now (actually my change had some delay propagating to oe and that caused the problem) Feb 04 22:22:36 philips, please try again, I did a merge so things should be ok now Feb 04 22:26:46 eFfeM: that fixed it, thanks. Feb 04 22:35:07 np Feb 04 23:10:56 good evening ... got a question about the build results of debianslug-image target Feb 04 23:30:36 Shareman: what's the q? Feb 04 23:31:18 hmm ... debianslug-image produces a complete flashable LE image right?! Feb 04 23:33:06 we also overwrite the bootloader this way which reside on top of flash.? Feb 04 23:33:29 no, it doesn't overwrite the bootloader unless you specify that it should. Feb 04 23:33:35 (very unwise) Feb 04 23:33:53 It does produce a complete flashable LE image. The bootloader is BE though. Feb 04 23:34:02 ;) but the generated image has a size of 8M .. is this a option of UpSlug? Feb 04 23:34:10 The contents are (AFAIK) the same as OpenSlug. Feb 04 23:34:30 yeah, it's an option of Upslug Feb 04 23:35:21 i'm a little irritated *g* Feb 04 23:35:29 why? Feb 04 23:36:10 i thought about compiling the kernel, downloading it using serial into redboot and make a testrun Feb 04 23:36:18 and? Feb 04 23:37:04 the descs of the howtos let this step out completely ... delivering a direct way to target Feb 04 23:37:36 but without letting me understand the things which one are done more than that... Feb 04 23:38:20 What do you need to know? Feb 04 23:38:34 Say me please: the partitioning of the flash Feb 04 23:38:41 where is this defined? Feb 04 23:45:59 NAiL: the zImage is already LE in any case in /tmp/deploy/images Feb 04 23:46:12 so i can do this what i want Feb 04 23:47:20 taking zImage-nslu2le would be the right Feb 04 23:49:00 yes Feb 04 23:50:29 so kernel will boot, missing rootfs after .. or what to expect? Feb 04 23:51:24 could one provide rootfs via USB-disk already on this state? Feb 04 23:55:12 only if USB is compiled into the kernel. Which I think it is Feb 04 23:55:19 but then you have to change the commandline Feb 04 23:55:45 you mean the kernel args Feb 04 23:57:05 yes Feb 04 23:59:54 okay ;) so if i flash debianslug-image, there's a flashrootfs in the flash-image... Feb 05 00:00:08 yes Feb 05 00:00:13 This is exactly the same as on openslug Feb 05 00:01:07 resp. represents an initial openembedded environment Feb 05 00:01:10 ? Feb 05 00:01:38 Exactly the same AFAIK. Except the BE/LE bit. Feb 05 00:02:09 so `simply` swapped... Feb 05 00:02:20 I'm going to flash my slug with the latest&greatest OpenSlug in a while. Feb 05 00:03:12 okay, so running the kernel, loading openslug root, later on booting into debian bootstrap .. to summarize Feb 05 00:06:00 OR: is this debian bootstrap a complete replacement for the openslug rootfs? Feb 05 00:06:22 no, not yet Feb 05 00:06:23 i don't understand the exact consequences of executing "turnup disk /dev/sda1 -t ext3" Feb 05 00:06:36 Basically, turnup just copies the rootfs to the hdd Feb 05 00:06:49 and makes the slug boot from that partition later on Feb 05 00:08:14 copying the rootfs (with turnup) after debootstrap setup?! Feb 05 00:08:48 no Feb 05 00:08:56 after debootstrapping, you don't need turnup Feb 05 00:09:07 this is written in http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/Bootstrap Feb 05 00:09:48 may you check this out for me .-) Feb 05 00:10:05 there's no mention of turnup on that page Feb 05 00:10:21 it's written: Feb 05 00:10:21 Make the external drive with Debian on it your boot device: Feb 05 00:10:21 turnup disk /dev/sda1 -t ext3 Feb 05 00:10:55 near the end of page Feb 05 00:12:26 ah Feb 05 00:12:38 ok, that just marks the partition from which it will boot Feb 05 00:12:38 ;-) Feb 05 00:12:44 it does not copy anything Feb 05 00:13:03 you mean: marking it bootable in partitiontable or what? Feb 05 00:13:51 no, it makes /linuxrc in the flash root fs Feb 05 00:15:33 okay.. so this makes the debian bootstrap environment "appended" on the boot process of openslug.. Feb 05 00:24:39 * NAiL just flashed OpenSlug 3.2-alpha Feb 05 00:24:59 yeah, kinda Feb 05 00:25:17 you use Debianslug (LE OpenSlug) to bootstrap to debian. Feb 05 00:26:45 ;-) you see ... some deficit on my education Feb 05 00:27:29 If the Boostrap page on the wiki didn't make it sufficiently clear, feel free to clarify it :) Feb 05 00:28:25 I'm going to do this - right when i understand it :) Feb 05 00:28:30 good :) Feb 05 00:28:35 (and did it for my own...) Feb 05 00:29:01 About this upgrade mode ... this one is provided by RedBoot .. right? Feb 05 00:29:12 yes Feb 05 00:29:39 i never read this, (and wasn't looking at serial output on this stage) Feb 05 00:29:42 One very good reason not to touch RedBoot is that. If you bork the upgrade, you will have to use JTAG to reflash. Feb 05 00:30:07 yes i know very well and i never would touch redboot if possible Feb 05 00:30:19 but wanted to understand that these tools also don't do it ;;)) Feb 05 00:32:41 my last topic (before already spoken): which instance define the flash geometry (mtd devices / partitioning?) Feb 05 00:33:20 There is a RedBoot FIS partition on the end of the flash. I do not know if that is actually read by RedBoot or not. Feb 05 00:33:27 It might be hard-coded in the kernel. Feb 05 00:34:09 oh ... so redboot knows the arch already ... Feb 05 00:34:50 interesting :) Feb 05 00:34:55 It doesn't really need to know anything about the layout. It can just start reading from mtdblock2 Feb 05 00:35:12 actually, I think that's where the 1mb limit comes from Feb 05 00:35:26 RedBoot doesn't read the partition list, and just blindly reads 1 mb from flash Feb 05 00:36:07 Redboot resides at 0x0 ... flash is representing a continues address space Feb 05 00:36:20 where does RedBoot knows mtdblock2? Feb 05 00:36:38 isn't this part of "partitioning"? Feb 05 00:36:53 The address space is divided into blocks of 128(?)kb Feb 05 00:37:16 i read about 128kb Feb 05 00:37:23 Redboot takes 3(4?) of those. It just starts reading from directly after itself. Feb 05 00:37:56 next aligned block, you mean Feb 05 00:38:05 yes Feb 05 00:38:14 okay that's great ... Feb 05 00:38:28 you make me happy understanding this platform a little :) Feb 05 00:38:37 np Feb 05 00:41:24 i made a dump if this talk ... going to discuss this topic further with my friends .) in some days i'll extend the docs with the results [where reasonable] Feb 05 00:41:54 Really many Thanks for your detailed infos - cu soon Feb 05 00:42:16 np Feb 05 00:42:27 oh cool Feb 05 00:42:30 groff actually works now Feb 05 00:42:38 which means man works :-D Feb 05 00:44:12 where it didn't work? Feb 05 00:44:49 It just failed with an error Feb 05 00:44:58 either when compiling it, or when trying to view a man-page Feb 05 00:45:22 in debianslug using the dist packages? (sarge? sig? testing?) Feb 05 00:45:33 no, plain openslug Feb 05 00:45:38 It works in debianslug Feb 05 00:46:08 what's your preferred env? Feb 05 00:46:13 BE openslug? Feb 05 00:47:54 I have one slug running BE OpenSlug (As I maintain the openslug feed) and one running LE debian Feb 05 00:48:59 When (if) I get my third slug back to life, it'll be running BE OpenSlug too Feb 05 00:49:08 Makes it easier for me to keep track of two feeds. Feb 05 00:49:29 how did you killed it? Feb 05 00:50:08 Well, it had bad ram, so I tried replacing the ram ;) Feb 05 00:50:50 ;) which one was first? trying to fat it up ... or having bad ram? ;) Feb 05 00:51:16 The bad ram Feb 05 00:51:41 Linksys - Hardware warranty ;-) Feb 05 00:51:42 I think it's just my soldering that is a tad off. I'm going to try once more and see if I can do it better. Feb 05 00:51:47 Too late ;) Feb 05 00:52:22 where did you take the ram from? Feb 05 00:52:24 It's got serial, the ram is ripped out. I don't think they'd enjoy getting that returned :-P Feb 05 00:52:31 I got it from a DIMM Feb 05 00:52:50 This is SDRAM architecture, right? Feb 05 00:53:09 yes Feb 05 00:53:15 any std PC133 SDRAM should fit the needs, i expect Feb 05 00:53:51 since i wanted to try to extend it too ... needing some challenge ;-) Feb 05 00:54:33 but as (i think you) told, this would result in the need of replacing the bootloader ... so i'm trying to work with 32M for now ;-) Feb 05 00:54:45 not any std sdram, no Feb 05 00:55:03 not std? Feb 05 00:55:17 Well, some of them work. Look at the info on fatslug on the wiki Feb 05 00:55:23 it has to be a certain type Feb 05 00:55:43 (which, I might add, you are most likely to find on S0DIMMS) Feb 05 00:56:50 i can't see any specification of "special" ones... Feb 05 00:57:12 lines like: Feb 05 00:57:14 Comment from Joschi: I just bought a 256MB PC133? module consisting of 4 512Mbit 32Mx16 chips at www.fscomputer.de. Found this by googling for "32Mx16" AND "PC133?". Feb 05 00:57:14 32M8, 64M8 etc.. IIRC Feb 05 00:57:21 aha Feb 05 00:57:30 ok, XXMx16 Feb 05 00:57:54 make me think being able to use std-rams Feb 05 00:58:25 If you have any of that kind lying around, yes Feb 05 00:58:49 It's a *serious* pain in the ass to solder though ;) Feb 05 00:59:25 yes ... i tryed to do this on a "test-environment" ;) Feb 05 01:00:30 i had a great idea (thought so): Feb 05 01:00:34 eFfeM-log: Awhile back didn't someone say they got an iMic working (previously unworking) Feb 05 01:01:12 NAiL you have any mechanical BG? Feb 05 01:01:18 philips: yes, someone did. Feb 05 01:01:37 Shareman: BG? Feb 05 01:02:02 background Feb 05 01:02:03 NAiL: The Wiki was never updateded with how he did it or that the iMic works. Do you have the conversation logged? Or know what his ircname was? Feb 05 01:02:25 there exist a tool having different small foils on it (0.1, 0.2, ... mm) Feb 05 01:02:29 philips: hmm... not at hand, no. Hang on a while. Feb 05 01:03:07 you may be able to bush this foil between the memory and the pcb Feb 05 01:04:07 and simply contacting the leg with the soldering and moving the foil in direction of the leg ... this interrupts the tin-contact Feb 05 01:04:50 doing this for each leg would result in a nice unsoldering since any soldering contact is could be done much below 1s per leg Feb 05 01:05:16 what do you think about? ;;) Feb 05 01:05:26 hmm Feb 05 01:05:41 I'm not sure I understand you. Isn't that kinda like solderwick? Feb 05 01:06:01 don't know *g* Feb 05 01:06:39 i didn't see any appropriate tool in electronics section ;) Feb 05 01:07:30 this one foil is used for mechanical part-adjustment to adjust part-tolerances ;) Feb 05 01:08:05 oh, hmm Feb 05 01:08:10 I think I get the idea Feb 05 01:08:23 .-) Feb 05 01:08:36 It would be hard to get it beneath the chips though.. They're glued to the board. Feb 05 01:08:52 not all of them Feb 05 01:09:17 i tryed it on a memory and it worked Feb 05 01:09:43 (could push it `through` the chip) Feb 05 01:13:26 i found a SD from Corsair with VS512MB133 PC133 512MB 64Mx64 16 168 DIMM ... what do you think about? Feb 05 01:13:59 Won't work, I think Feb 05 01:14:17 because of the x64? Feb 05 01:14:40 d** ;-) Feb 05 01:14:44 yeah Feb 05 01:14:47 they have to be x16 Feb 05 01:15:02 i thought this x64 may be the chip-alignment on the pcb Feb 05 01:15:05 Try finding a S0DIMM Feb 05 01:15:12 ie, ram for laptop Feb 05 01:15:35 yes thanks ... got some here ... Feb 05 01:16:24 I've only got DDR S0DIMMS. But I've got a couple of SDRAM DIMMS I can use. Feb 05 01:16:44 fatter ones? Feb 05 01:17:15 my d* SODIMMs here have 32x8 ;-( Feb 05 01:17:18 Can't remember the size right now Feb 05 01:20:08 eFfeM-log: I am going to try and use debug_fs and usbmon Feb 05 01:21:48 philips: snowbike Feb 05 01:21:53 (got it working) Feb 05 01:22:35 NAiL: thanks Feb 05 01:22:58 Jan 29 12:59:21 I found that I got it working with alsa Feb 05 01:23:24 Jan 29 13:01:11 I had installed the audio as I found on the wiki, but in the end I had to "rmmod audio" Feb 05 01:23:27 Jan 29 13:01:20 and then "modprobe snd_usb_audio" Feb 05 01:24:04 He's using stock OpenSlug 2.7-beta Feb 05 01:32:37 64Mx16 seems nearly unavailable Feb 05 01:33:52 oh this would be too big *g* Feb 05 01:43:29 03bzhou * 10unslung/sources/perl/Cross/ (5 files): perl cross compiled for slug Feb 05 01:45:07 found a 256MB SDR FSB133 MDT 32Mx16 Feb 05 01:45:19 NAiL You would expect it to run? :) Feb 05 01:46:48 NAiL - I've just gotten back to my USB thermometer project and have a question Feb 05 01:47:04 Shareman: yes :) Feb 05 01:47:20 Circlotron: Ummkay? I don't know anything about thermometers ;-) Feb 05 01:48:21 I was trying to build a kernel module for the thermometer and you suggested I look at zd1211-r51 Feb 05 01:49:30 Anyway I've downloaded zd1211-r51 but can't figure out how to get the related .bb file Feb 05 01:50:02 Circlotron: what type of range do you need on the thermometer? Because there are a few $20 USB ones that have drivers already in the kernel Feb 05 01:50:53 Just room temperature and below Feb 05 01:51:30 I'm hooked and want to figure out the kernel module thing anyway :-) Feb 05 01:52:12 Circlotron: developing the driver first on the NSLU isn't going to be fun Feb 05 01:52:37 Circlotron: you would be better off doing an out of tree build on your desktop and then porting it to nslu Feb 05 01:52:54 I've got a working x86 version - I just need to cross compile it for the NSLU Feb 05 01:54:08 Circlotron: ahh, well just make a kernel patch against the openembedded ixp4xx-kernel that adds in your driver Feb 05 01:55:46 Can you be more specific about which files need to be modified to add the module to the kernel? Feb 05 01:58:35 Circlotron: Make a patch against 2.6.15 and add it to openembedded/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.15, make *-image for slug will automatically patch the kernel with your code when you build an image Feb 05 01:59:55 Circlotron: you will also need to modify openembedded/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.15/defconfig with any configuration options that need to be applied to the .config to build your module Feb 05 02:00:38 Circlotron: Then you should send your patch to the linux kernel mailing list for inclusion (you will want to carefully read the submitters guide however) :-) Feb 05 02:00:46 Thanks - you had mentioned a couple of weeks ago I should look at the .bb file for zd1211-r51 is this still relavant? Feb 05 02:01:19 That's the way I build a single module which isn't in the mainstream sources. Feb 05 02:01:36 Circlotron: Are you the author of the module? Feb 05 02:03:20 No - Greg Kroah Hartman wrote it - it's supposed to end up in the kernel eventually Feb 05 02:03:42 Circlotron: eh- is this the gotemp driver? Feb 05 02:03:51 yes Feb 05 02:04:07 Circlotron: There is a driver already in the kernel IIRC Feb 05 02:05:22 I didn't think the NSLU had it though.... Feb 05 02:05:52 That can easily be fixed Feb 05 02:06:01 (if it's in the mainstream kernel) Feb 05 02:06:04 OK Feb 05 02:14:49 Circlotron: ldusb Feb 05 02:14:57 How to I add the gotemp module to the kernel build if it's there? Feb 05 02:15:21 I also have the gotemp module as a 2.6 patch Feb 05 02:18:24 Circlotron: editing openembedded/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.15/defconfig and changing "# CONFIG_USB_LD is not set" to "CONFIG_USB_LD=y" should generate a package for the ld driver Feb 05 02:18:36 err "CONFIG_USB_LD=m" Feb 05 02:19:08 Circlotron: Which version of openslug do you run? Feb 05 02:19:28 I'm running 2.7 beta Feb 05 02:19:40 ok, I'll make the change so it ends up in the feed Feb 05 02:20:16 oh Feb 05 02:20:17 heh Feb 05 02:20:29 that module isn't available for the 2.6.12.2 keel Feb 05 02:20:34 s/keel/kernel Feb 05 02:20:55 ah, oops Feb 05 02:21:42 I think it may be 2.6.14 Feb 05 02:22:31