**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 11 10:59:56 2006 Mar 11 11:07:48 03repvik * 10unslung/Makefile: Remove a \ Mar 11 13:22:56 Hi. How do i recompile busybox using master makefile to enable dc support? i added CONFIG_DC=y to ~/slug/openembedded/packages/busybox/busybox-1.01/slugos/defconfig, rm -rf ~/slug/openslug/tmp/{work,stamps}/busybox* and did a make openslug-image, but the busybox is still built w/o dc support Mar 11 13:24:51 the defconfig in ~/slug/openslug/tmp/work//busybox-1.01-r9/ is fine (CONFIG_DC=y), but the .config in ~/slug/openslug/tmp/work/busybox-1.01-r9/busybox-1.01 doesn't have CONFIG_DC set ... Mar 11 13:26:24 what's am i doing wrong? Mar 11 15:14:43 odd Mar 11 15:15:09 I've got a 2.5" hdd connected on one of the USB-ports on the slug. lsusb -v claims that it is self-powered and uses max 100mA... Mar 11 15:15:25 It isn't self-powered, so something is wrong :9 Mar 11 15:15:40 (It works just fine though) Mar 11 15:16:27 iManufacturer 56 Cypress Semiconductor Mar 11 15:16:27 iProduct 78 USB2.0 Storage Device Mar 11 15:16:33 bmAttributes 0xc0 Mar 11 15:16:33 Self Powered Mar 11 15:16:33 MaxPower 0mA Mar 11 15:17:11 bmAttributes 0xc0 Mar 11 15:17:11 Self Powered Mar 11 15:17:11 MaxPower 100mA Mar 11 15:17:29 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 067b:2507 Prolific Technology, Inc. Mar 11 15:17:46 iProduct 2 Mass Storage Device Mar 11 15:17:52 iManufacturer 1 ALCOR Mar 11 15:17:52 iProduct 2 Generic USB Hub Mar 11 15:18:00 bmAttributes 0xe0 Mar 11 15:18:00 Self Powered Mar 11 15:18:00 Remote Wakeup Mar 11 15:18:00 MaxPower 100mA Mar 11 15:18:11 hmmm... that one is *not* selfpowered Mar 11 15:18:16 you have the disk connected to a self-powered usb-hub? Mar 11 15:18:22 heh Mar 11 15:18:24 aha Mar 11 15:18:25 my 2,5" hdd means selfpowered too , but it is NOT self-powered Mar 11 15:18:53 my disk is in a enclosure with remote power, connect to port 1 Mar 11 15:19:14 got an USB powered minihun on port two (that is the second one) Mar 11 15:19:18 mine is in a 2.5" enclosure without external power Mar 11 15:19:22 maybe it just means, that it is capable of being self-powered? Mar 11 15:19:33 pepijn: hey, did you do an install yesterday? Mar 11 15:20:12 tbm: not yet... will effect my network during the install, so i need to turn off the Windows PC of my wife ;) Mar 11 15:20:30 i'll report result to debian-boot Mar 11 15:20:40 pepijn: ok. I don't want to cause marital problems :-P Mar 11 15:20:45 hehe Mar 11 15:21:02 philpem: still going strong? (read you mail) Mar 11 15:21:37 EvilDevil: yes it looks like that is what it means... capability Mar 11 15:22:51 tbm: given the result of philpem, and my own experience, i'll not be running any kernel pre-2.6.16 again ;) Mar 11 15:23:22 I compiled 2.6.16-rc5 yesterday, fwiw Mar 11 15:26:00 I think my speedtouch isn't quite... healthy Mar 11 15:26:01 Uptime: 751 days, 1:53:20 Mar 11 15:26:26 hehe, when was it produced? Mar 11 15:26:39 well, it's older than that ;) Mar 11 15:27:29 Uptime: 752 days, 17:47:00 Mar 11 15:27:41 I'd say it's racing quite fast :) Mar 11 15:28:29 any temporary anomalies up in trondheim? Mar 11 15:29:25 perform a scan for tachions, i'd say Mar 11 15:30:58 You might like to check which parallel dimension your NTP server exists in... Mar 11 15:31:42 Well, it's in Oslo Mar 11 15:31:49 soooooo Mar 11 15:31:58 it's probably screwy, like the rest of that city ;) Mar 11 15:32:03 no, space-time continuum effects notable here Mar 11 15:32:15 but i sync my servers to startum 1 in amsterdam ;) Mar 11 15:32:25 s/startum/startum/ Mar 11 15:32:28 Info.WhatPeopleAreReallyUsingTheirSlugsFor: Nail: Time-machine ;-) Mar 11 15:32:31 errr Mar 11 15:32:50 hehe Mar 11 15:32:51 replacing typo with same typo Mar 11 15:33:24 Consistency is Good, pepijn! Mar 11 16:00:01 hi, a non nslu2-related question: got my new PC today, and was wondering what is considered the best linux distro (on my previous system I am running FC4, but I am not *that* happy about it) Mar 11 16:00:35 dangegeous question Mar 11 16:00:38 debian / ubuntu / gentoo ;) Mar 11 16:00:52 or suse if you *really* want to use rpm Mar 11 16:01:09 * NAiL uses Ubuntu Mar 11 16:01:12 why gentoo, evildevil ? Mar 11 16:01:17 pepijn, i know this is a dangerous q that could trigger religious wars Mar 11 16:01:26 Among the NSLU fans, methinks you will only hear the word: DEBIAN. I run Fedora Core 3, waiting a few weeks until I upgrade to Fedora Core 5 (maybe) Mar 11 16:01:30 * pepijn uses debian on server, ubuntu on desktop Mar 11 16:01:56 it's pretty recent pepijn and is teaching you lots of stuff about linux Mar 11 16:02:03 i consider debian rock-solid, but slow in releasing newest functionality Mar 11 16:02:20 actually I already reduced my choices between FC4 (because I know that one), ubuntu (seems pretty popular) and debian (more up to date?) Mar 11 16:02:21 ubuntu is less solid, but faster release schedule Mar 11 16:02:29 than debian? Mar 11 16:02:34 yes Mar 11 16:02:40 ubuntu is based on debian Mar 11 16:02:44 thought ubuntu was debian-based so I expected it to lag behind Mar 11 16:02:50 lots of same developers Mar 11 16:02:55 also debian seems to have a shorter release schedule Mar 11 16:03:07 ubuntu is sort of a testbed for debian ;) Mar 11 16:04:08 just look at the kernel version in debian stable vs. ubuntu stable Mar 11 16:04:21 2.4.27 / 2.6.8 for debian Mar 11 16:04:25 2.6.12 for ubuntu Mar 11 16:04:43 uh Mar 11 16:04:47 ubuntu has 2.6.15 Mar 11 16:04:48 i seem to recall my fc4 is at 2.6.14 Mar 11 16:04:57 ok Mar 11 16:04:59 oh, nm, I'm running dapper drake Mar 11 16:05:03 stable? Mar 11 16:05:05 hehe Mar 11 16:05:08 dapper drake? Mar 11 16:05:20 stable = breezy, testing = dapper Mar 11 16:05:37 at the moment Mar 11 16:06:02 can't say anything about gentoo, except that it exists ,) Mar 11 16:06:19 I liked gentoo Mar 11 16:06:29 but I got tired of waiting for compiles all the time Mar 11 16:06:51 oh yes, gentoo is a 'compile it all for yourself' distro, isn't it? Mar 11 16:07:20 yeah. Except that it's very automated Mar 11 16:07:38 I liked it. It's easy to tune the box for good performance Mar 11 16:08:47 so the compiling thing was the reason to switch to ubuntu ? Mar 11 16:08:52 let me add a complication to my question: i have a dual core intel system Mar 11 16:08:58 woohoo, the server's stable :) Mar 11 16:09:13 when it comes to the NSLU2 you can't use Ubuntu since it does not provide an arm (LE) feed Mar 11 16:09:13 23 hours and no crashes :) Mar 11 16:09:26 nive one, philpem Mar 11 16:09:32 s/nive/nice/ Mar 11 16:09:32 pepijn meant: nice one, philpem Mar 11 16:09:45 23 hours? That's not long, really... Mar 11 16:09:48 he, jbot is awake Mar 11 16:09:57 more than 10 hours, mwester Mar 11 16:10:03 I mean, this isn't windows ;) Mar 11 16:10:07 Linux wolf.philpem.me.uk 2.6.16 #1 Wed Mar 8 05:03:29 GMT 2006 armv5teb GNU/Linux up 22:56 as of 16:13:18, 1 user, load average: 1.97, 1.97, 1.95 Mar 11 16:10:22 mwester: beats three hours :) Mar 11 16:10:28 Well, that's true! Mar 11 16:10:39 i wonder why we (philpem and i) had those kinds of problems with pre 2.6.16 kernels Mar 11 16:10:43 might try torrenting tonight. see if it can handle BitTorrent slamming it into the ground. Mar 11 16:10:55 pepijn: yeah, I changed from gentoo to ubuntu to save compile-time Mar 11 16:10:57 modem connected to slug again, philpem? Mar 11 16:11:00 yup Mar 11 16:11:16 eciadsl 0.11 rock stable Mar 11 16:11:19 and you are running BE, right? Mar 11 16:11:28 that's what the uname output says :) Mar 11 16:11:40 oh yeah, lol Mar 11 16:12:05 17:16:20 up 3 days, 17:30, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.01, 1.02 Mar 11 16:12:13 just need to make my modem hotplug scripts work, and maybe add a cronjob that sets the LEDs depending on the state of the DSL Mar 11 16:12:17 Linux chapel 2.6.16 #1 Sun Feb 26 20:27:00 CET 2006 armv5tel GNU/Linux Mar 11 16:12:24 an external status LCD (on the USB) would be nice too Mar 11 16:13:18 I was looking at those; prices are reasonable for surplus units anyway. Mar 11 16:13:44 i have an older Palm that i plan to do something like that with Mar 11 16:13:56 * NAiL has a LCD-display on his DS101 Mar 11 16:14:18 mwester: HD44780 LCD + PIC18F4550 + USB connector + 12MHz crystal Mar 11 16:14:28 "i'm a maker, not a buyer!" Mar 11 16:14:46 be damned if i'm going to spend Ł40 on something i can make for Ł10 Mar 11 16:15:03 even if it takes hours? Mar 11 16:15:05 :-P Mar 11 16:15:13 tnx for your answers! I think I'll settle for ubuntu Mar 11 16:15:38 pepijn: yeah, i'm weird like that Mar 11 16:15:40 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/DS101-hardware-mods/img_1983?full=1 Mar 11 16:16:05 That's in a neat little package though :) Mar 11 16:16:15 still need to write up that wiki article on installing 2.6.16rc4 on opendebianslug Mar 11 16:16:42 but i've got two uni assignments due in about 42 hours and i have a load of work to do on them... Mar 11 16:25:53 Truly, Java is the devil's own programming language. Mar 11 16:26:47 Words of truth, philpem. Mar 11 16:26:55 * pepijn thought that was C# Mar 11 16:28:20 btw wrt the lcd discussion: I was planning to hack something for my nokia cell phone to connect to the slug with BT Mar 11 16:29:04 (and eFfeM already thought C++ was the devil's programming language; (eFfeM likes plain C) Mar 11 16:29:37 eFfeM: "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows away your entire leg." (Bjarne Stroustrup iirc) Mar 11 16:30:26 The big problem with Java is it's a total memory hog... 70MB of RAM for a text editor?! Mar 11 16:30:48 I know, but I am programming C now for 20+ years, so I know how to aim with C (and I dislike the additional inefficiency and memory consumption of C++, I do a lot of embedded systems programming) Mar 11 16:31:04 actually I even try to avoid malloc, always a pain on embedded Mar 11 16:32:01 I've done C since about '01.. it's not a bad language in itself, you just have to be careful :) Mar 11 16:32:08 yup Mar 11 16:32:38 and the big problem you have is VB weenies thinking they can code just 'cos they can use VB :) Mar 11 16:32:55 thedailywtf.com is often enlightening :) Mar 11 16:33:52 VB is programming language! (So is "command.com") :D Mar 11 16:34:41 didn't know about thedailywtf.com ; thanks for mentioning it, it gave me my first good laugh in 1.5 week Mar 11 16:35:03 That's a real site? I'll have to go check it out... Mar 11 16:35:10 yes, it is fun Mar 11 16:35:17 dinnertime, back lager Mar 11 16:35:21 s/g/t/ Mar 11 16:35:22 eFfeM meant: dinnertime, back later Mar 11 16:38:37 * pepijn wonders if jbot catched up with his weather reports Mar 11 16:38:46 ~weather enfb Mar 11 16:39:40 Oslo / Fornebu, Norway; (ENFB) 59-54N 010-38E 17M; last updated: 2002.10.26 0550 UTC Mar 11 16:40:01 guess not Mar 11 16:40:39 ~weather ord Mar 11 16:40:43 I can't find station code "ORD" (see http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/site.shtml or http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml for ICAO locations codes). Mar 11 16:41:59 ~weather kord Mar 11 16:42:02 Chicago, Chicago-O'Hare International Airport, IL, United States; (KORD) 41-58-47N 087-54-16W 200M; last updated: 2006.03.11 1556 UTC; Dew Point: 43.0 F (6.1 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.89 in. Hg (1012 hPa); Relative Humidity: 61%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 55.9 F (13.3 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: from the SE (140 degrees) at 15 MPH (13 KT) Mar 11 16:42:57 ~weather engm Mar 11 16:43:03 Oslo / Gardermoen, Norway; (ENGM) 60-12N 011-05E 204M; last updated: 2006.03.11 1620 UTC; Dew Point: 19 F (-7 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.18 in. Hg (1022 hPa); Relative Humidity: 68%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 28 F (-2 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the N (010 degrees) at 16 MPH (14 KT); Windchill: 15 F (-9 C) Mar 11 16:43:28 that looks more accurate ;) Mar 11 16:43:43 ~weather 03347 Mar 11 16:43:48 I can't find station code "03347" (see http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/site.shtml or http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml for ICAO locations codes). Mar 11 16:43:56 ~weather EGNM Mar 11 16:44:01 Leeds And Bradford, United Kingdom; (EGNM) 53-52N 001-39W; last updated: 2006.03.11 1620 UTC; Dew Point: 32 F (0 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.21 in. Hg (1023 hPa); Relative Humidity: 100%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 32 F (0 C); Visibility: 4 mile(s); Wind: from the E (090 degrees) at 14 MPH (12 KT); Windchill: 21 F (-6 C) Mar 11 16:44:11 cute :) Mar 11 16:44:22 saves me looking out the window, anyway :P Mar 11 17:13:19 ~weather eheh Mar 11 17:13:22 Eindhoven, Netherlands; (EHEH) 51-27N 005-25E 28M; last updated: 2006.03.11 1625 UTC; Dew Point: 23 F (-5 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.03 in. Hg (1017 hPa); Relative Humidity: 69%; Sky conditions: partly cloudy; Visibility: 5 mile(s); Weather: 32 F (0 C); Wind: from the N (010 degrees) at 21 MPH (18 KT); Windchill: 19 F (-7 C) Mar 11 17:13:50 hm better stay inside Mar 11 17:13:52 so, PSV has any change tonite? :-P Mar 11 17:14:03 chance Mar 11 17:14:25 pepijn, according to my son on the other PC this is a silly question Mar 11 17:14:36 i don't care about soccer Mar 11 17:14:43 ~nick eFfeM Mar 11 17:14:56 oops Mar 11 17:15:17 just to be clean about it, i am *not* rooting for Ajakkus Mar 11 17:15:24 clear Mar 11 17:15:56 * pepijn starts humming 'hand in hand, de kamaraden' ;) Mar 11 17:16:04 ok ok Mar 11 17:16:19 k, enough for now Mar 11 17:17:46 pepijn, interesting address: pepijn@195.159.157.158 Mar 11 17:17:51 woo! 24 hours uptime! break out the champagne :) Mar 11 17:17:58 17:21:47 up 1 day, 4 min, 1 user, load average: 1.94, 1.97, 1.97 Mar 11 17:22:41 if you do a DNS lookup, you get powertech-gw.pip.gan.no Mar 11 17:22:49 ah Mar 11 17:23:08 powertech being the provider, pip being my norwegian 'nick' and gan being me employee ;) Mar 11 17:23:49 pepijn is too hard for non-dutchmen to pronounce (when reading) Mar 11 17:24:03 way to go, philpem Mar 11 17:24:32 * pepijn is now convinced there is some pre 2.6.16 problem causing the lockups Mar 11 17:29:04 me too Mar 11 17:29:27 i'd diff the two source trees, but i'm not quite that bored yet :) Mar 11 17:31:12 hehe Mar 11 17:31:26 "Java is, in many ways, C++--" (Michael Feldman). so true... Mar 11 17:32:26 maybe i should install openntpd again and see if the system remains stable Mar 11 17:33:03 why not - you can always disable its init.d entry if it starts falling over. Mar 11 17:33:32 i have a sneaking suspicion that there was some task-switching heisenbug deep in the kernel that got fixed in 2.6.16... Mar 11 17:38:16 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/ (18 files): use --root & --prefix for setup.py, bump IPK_VERSION Mar 11 17:42:59 if i enable it and it locks up again, i'll be removing it on the next reboot Mar 11 17:43:34 better have the lockup happen tomorrow, then sometime during the week (when i can't reach the powerjack) Mar 11 17:46:39 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/py-clips.mk: use --root & --prefix for setup.py, bump IPK_VERSION Mar 11 17:58:28 mmm Mar 11 17:58:52 which is why i've just installed bittornado. better having it crash while i'm sitting next to the powerjack. Mar 11 17:59:09 and Bt is great at provoking crashes on slugs :) Mar 11 17:59:18 haha Mar 11 18:00:00 no officer, i was not downloading anything illegal, just trying to crash my slug ;) Mar 11 18:00:39 "Naruto-175.torrent? No officer, that's not illegal, that's a Linux ISO! And linux is free to copy! Just look at www.kernel.org and www.linux.org!" Mar 11 18:01:12 but sir, it end in .torrent ! Mar 11 18:01:17 s/end/ends/ Mar 11 18:01:17 pepijn meant: but sir, it ends in .torrent ! Mar 11 18:01:55 "It's a torrent for a Linux ISO! This program here, Bit Torrent, it uses the torrent file to tell it where to find the Linux ISOs!" Mar 11 18:02:43 and you think any police officer will understand more than four words of that sentence? ;) Mar 11 18:03:48 it's a for a this here it uses the to tell it where to find the *gg* Mar 11 18:05:58 :P Mar 11 18:06:56 "What's this? A TORRENT FILE! You stealing music, sunshine?" / "No officer, I'm downloading the latest version of Linux!" / "OH! SO YOU'RE STEALING SOFTWARE THEN! Come with me, chummy, we're going to 'ave a little talk down at the station..." Mar 11 18:13:01 03bzhou * 10unslung/ (Makefile make/py-urwid.mk): py-urwid ready for testing Mar 11 18:23:27 heh Mar 11 18:23:49 IIRC, it's perfectly legal to download Naruto. Atleast here in Norway :) Mar 11 18:24:24 NAiL we were just making fun of the law Mar 11 18:24:58 yeah Mar 11 18:26:07 Hello NAiL! Do you, perchance, have write access to the openslug svn repo? Or do you know who is in charge of that repo? (Unslung depends on that svn repo!) Mar 11 18:26:48 the svn repos? I've got write-access, yes. It's basically only me doing work on those. Mar 11 18:27:12 why does unslung depend on that repo? Doesn't it use OE? Mar 11 18:28:54 The "openembedded" tree in Unslung is an extern: openembedded svn://svn.berlios.de/openslug/trunk/openslug/openembedded Mar 11 18:29:15 oh.. Mar 11 18:29:24 * NAiL bets that hasn't been updated in *ages* Mar 11 18:29:56 This extern doesn't even resolve anymore: nslu2-linux svn://svn.berlios.de/openslug/trunk/openslug/nslu2-linux Mar 11 18:31:06 So, needless to say, unslung 6.7 isn't in the Unslung repo (which contains a Makefile, a configuration file, and three extern references!) Mar 11 18:40:44 new project.. set up a bridge on one of the slugs Mar 11 18:41:40 so that when I insert the zaurus, it ads usb0 to the bridge and the zaurus gets online Mar 11 18:54:34 NAil: Any suggestions on how to proceed with the svn problem? Mar 11 19:20:58 not really Mar 11 19:21:48 I think you should ask ByronT when he's around. I think he might know a bit more about that than me. Mar 11 19:33:38 * mwester goes off to put svn on one of his slugs... Mar 11 19:53:20 * philpem scurries off to get Cherokee compiled for armeb.. hope someone's made a controlfile for it... Mar 11 19:54:01 philpem? isn't there a bb file? Mar 11 19:54:28 em, that would build an ipk for openslug. i'm running opendebianslug. Mar 11 19:54:38 as in, big-endian debian with the openslug kernel Mar 11 19:55:12 they should be compatible. just test it ;) Mar 11 19:55:20 um... Mar 11 19:55:33 dpkg -i whatever.ipk IIRC Mar 11 19:55:52 ok then, but if it breaks... Mar 11 19:56:01 yes, blame EvilDevil ;) Mar 11 19:56:09 philpem ar -x blabla.ipk Mar 11 19:56:21 tar -xvzf data.tar.gz Mar 11 19:56:46 EvilDevil: nah, the file format is the same Mar 11 19:56:54 so you shouldn't need to do that Mar 11 19:56:56 test it and if it works, do a tar -xvzf data.tar.gz -C / Mar 11 19:57:07 well, that is a good idea Mar 11 19:57:09 :) Mar 11 19:57:17 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cherokee: Mar 11 19:57:17 cherokee depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.5+cvs20050627); however: Mar 11 19:57:17 Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-22. Mar 11 19:57:17 cherokee depends on libpcre0 (>= 4.4); however: Mar 11 19:57:18 Package libpcre0 is not installed. Mar 11 20:00:52 i don't mind compiling it from source, it's just rather tedious (can't copy-paste into a vmware window) Mar 11 20:01:41 philpem install putty on your windows machine and openssh-server on vmware Mar 11 20:02:21 this should work if you use vmware's NAT networking Mar 11 20:02:28 at least it works for me ;) Mar 11 20:02:44 * philpem is hit with a sudden shot of DuuuuhWhyDidn'tIThinkOfThat... Mar 11 20:02:57 ;-) Mar 11 20:07:36 let's see... do i build cherokee or appweb, or do i go on a total madness-fest and install apache... :D Mar 11 20:08:04 stay with cherokee if possible :) Mar 11 20:08:22 * philpem builds cherokee Mar 11 20:23:17 philpem: installing ipk through dpkg is certainly possible Mar 11 20:23:30 just use dpkg --force-all --install *.ipk Mar 11 20:23:41 as long as they are compatible (as said) Mar 11 20:29:39 (binary compatible) Mar 11 20:31:12 or lighttpd Mar 11 20:45:28 03bzhou * 10unslung/make/w3m.mk: mv host-w3m-mktable-build before cross-w3m-configure, this avoids host libssl-dev Mar 11 20:45:36 nick eno Mar 11 20:46:32 any pros/cons for cherokee vs lighttpd ? Mar 11 20:47:37 currently cherokee's support for fastcgi and scgi is still in beta Mar 11 20:51:30 almost back in business with my new ubuntu system Mar 11 20:51:47 but need info on how to set things up to get the right libboost stuff Mar 11 20:51:50 anyone an idea? Mar 11 20:51:51 how did the install go? Mar 11 20:51:59 tough Mar 11 20:52:32 the gigabit network adapter was not recognized (the driver seems to be crap, got a new e1000.ko from the web) Mar 11 20:52:50 and I had to hack the xorg.conf file to support my X600 display adapter Mar 11 20:52:55 but I'm in business now Mar 11 20:53:07 what release did you install? Mar 11 20:53:10 wanted to see how fast this baby is in building a kernel Mar 11 20:53:18 breezy badger Mar 11 20:53:24 5.10 Mar 11 20:53:29 whatever Mar 11 20:53:41 k, when it comes to newer drivers you might have more luck with dapper Mar 11 20:54:02 how/where/what way can I upgrade? I also still need smp support Mar 11 20:54:48 change /etc/apt/sources.list and add the lines for dapper Mar 11 20:55:22 you can have both breezy and dapper there Mar 11 20:55:42 the system will use the newest versions from both available repositories Mar 11 20:56:21 ok, let's see if I can find those lines Mar 11 20:56:32 backing off in a few minutes for tv anyway Mar 11 20:56:45 what's on? Mar 11 20:57:17 eno: lighttpd on debian pulls in php4 and php5 Mar 11 20:57:44 from dusk till dawn, veronica Mar 11 20:57:51 og wait, just recommded Mar 11 20:57:53 horror i think Mar 11 20:57:57 yes Mar 11 20:58:04 anyway it started already Mar 11 20:58:06 isn't that tarantino Mar 11 20:58:12 ? Mar 11 20:58:21 yes with george clooney Mar 11 20:58:21 and ... Mar 11 20:58:29 later Mar 11 20:58:36 hva fun Mar 11 20:59:03 s/hva/have/ Mar 11 20:59:03 pepijn meant: have fun Mar 11 21:30:36 commercial break ... Mar 11 21:30:45 pepijn, are you going to this: http://www.nllgg.nl/bijeenkomsten_2006_slugdag ? Mar 11 21:36:15 grr. "undefined reference to `rpl_malloc'" Mar 11 21:36:35 hehe, bit to far away for me ;) Mar 11 21:37:06 * pepijn lives in oslo Mar 11 21:37:28 ik praat nederlands Mar 11 21:37:32 jeg snakker norsk Mar 11 21:37:36 i speak english Mar 11 21:37:52 (and can read danish, swedish and some german, lol) Mar 11 21:37:57 ah ok Mar 11 21:38:24 eFfeM: i am dutch, but my wife (and son) are norwegians Mar 11 21:38:32 your name looks very dutch and since you mentioned psv i figured you were dutch Mar 11 21:38:41 well, there Mar 11 21:38:51 ah ok, that's indeed too far Mar 11 21:39:05 and i actually watched AJX/PSV, it was live on norwegian television Mar 11 21:39:05 added dapper, i'm now trying to build, Mar 11 21:39:17 still need to figure out how to install smp Mar 11 21:39:20 but i do also get Veronica (through satellite) Mar 11 21:39:28 another embedded device in use there ;) Mar 11 21:39:30 lots of choices then Mar 11 21:39:34 (Dreambox 500) Mar 11 21:39:47 been in norway once. liked it, still planning to go back once Mar 11 21:39:49 SMP, or SNMP Mar 11 21:40:09 smp (multiprocessor support) Mar 11 21:40:14 at he moment it is too much snow around here, even the norwegians complain, hehe Mar 11 21:40:25 this new baby is dual core Mar 11 21:40:34 k SMP then Mar 11 21:40:47 just select one of the linux-image packages Mar 11 21:40:55 there is quite some of them Mar 11 21:41:04 hm. build failed, multiple heads, and I haven't installed the keys on this one so I cannot merge. Any volunteers? Mar 11 21:41:14 you should go with linux-image-686-smp, or something similar Mar 11 21:41:24 that automatically pulls in the actual kernel Mar 11 21:41:51 I merged, but: Mar 11 21:41:53 cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sf.net: M PserverBackend::PserverBackend() Connect (Connection refused) Mar 11 21:41:55 make: *** [update-optware] Error 1 Mar 11 21:42:02 arghh Mar 11 21:42:10 sourceforge and its cvs ... Mar 11 21:42:23 Been like that since this morning --- er, I mean several hours ago. Mar 11 21:42:39 i had a succesfull update from sf earlier Mar 11 21:42:42 (I morning and evening don't mean much here) Mar 11 21:42:45 yeah, had that yesterday as well. try a lot of times and sometimes it works. Also this is the last cmd in the makefile if i am not mistaken Mar 11 21:42:51 must be earlier than several hours ago ;) Mar 11 21:42:52 s/I/I forget/ Mar 11 21:42:53 mwester meant: (I forget morning and evening don't mean much here) Mar 11 21:43:19 pepijn is this what I want: Mar 11 21:43:19 linux-image-2.6.15-18-686 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.15 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP/UP Mar 11 21:43:50 hmmmm, Mar 11 21:43:51 Linux kirk 2.6.12-10-686-smp #1 SMP Mon Feb 13 12:23:58 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux Mar 11 21:44:00 that is what i have one a breezy SMP machine Mar 11 21:44:08 s/one/on/ Mar 11 21:44:08 pepijn meant: that is what i have on a breezy SMP machine Mar 11 21:44:25 note the -smp behind the 686 Mar 11 21:44:42 yeah, thought I'd kick in the dapper stuff Mar 11 21:45:15 kernel version looks ok, but looks like it is not a SMP kernel Mar 11 21:45:24 what does /proc/cpuinfo say ? Mar 11 21:45:40 haven't installed it yet, but the commetn says it is a kernel for smp/up Mar 11 21:45:58 fedora (which I had before) also installed both smp and nonsmp Mar 11 21:46:06 I'll just give it a try, it cannot harm that much Mar 11 21:46:13 nope, it cant Mar 11 21:46:20 just check cpuinfo afterwards Mar 11 21:46:24 back to the movie Mar 11 21:46:28 will do Mar 11 21:46:29 later Mar 11 21:46:32 hehe, commercials huh? Mar 11 21:46:34 later Mar 11 21:49:08 http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/linux-image-686 Mar 11 21:49:21 looks like the -smp version has been dropped Mar 11 21:56:02 cherokee is one of those weird apps that, no matter how hard you try, you just can't make it cross compile. Mar 11 21:56:10 * philpem gives up and installs gcc on the slug Mar 11 21:56:22 philpem: just try the ipk Mar 11 21:56:26 i did. Mar 11 21:56:39 use --force-all to make dpkg install it Mar 11 21:56:41 it wants a newer version of glibc, and a different version of libpcre Mar 11 21:56:56 err... Mar 11 21:56:57 k Mar 11 21:56:59 got ya Mar 11 21:57:12 and opendebianslug mirrors sarge, not etcg Mar 11 21:57:19 s/etcg/etch/ Mar 11 21:57:20 pepijn meant: and opendebianslug mirrors sarge, not etch Mar 11 21:58:18 philpem, see optware, cherokee is x-built Mar 11 22:00:23 which httpd server would you guys recommed for running simple website and viewcvs ? Mar 11 22:00:39 not public, just on the internal network Mar 11 22:01:32 thttpd should work ok Mar 11 22:01:56 but its a little basic. cherokee or appweb might be a better option (i'm biased towards cherokee) Mar 11 22:11:29 can't find appweb in the debian repository Mar 11 22:13:21 try cherokee Mar 11 22:13:38 or there's always aolserver :P Mar 11 22:14:10 * philpem wonders if Roxen HTTPD (aka Challenger) runs on ARM... Mar 11 22:30:26 pepijn, no luck, upgrading to this new version caused an odd display when booting and errors when booting the old kernel Mar 11 22:30:49 i'll try to install dapper from scratch from the flight5 iso Mar 11 22:33:32 k, i'm off to bed Mar 11 22:53:29 Hi Mar 11 23:22:48 hmm Mar 11 23:24:08