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Jun 28 05:27:33 <pvh> Hello. I've been running Unslung for quite some time now, and I'd like to install debian slug. Is the transition relatively painless, or will I need to reconfigure everything?
Jun 28 05:28:03 <placid> good question. don't know the answer but I'm in the same situation
Jun 28 05:28:16 <placid> I assume the latter
Jun 28 05:28:22 <pvh> well, maybe we can help each other.
Jun 28 05:28:25 <placid> ie pretty much complete restart
Jun 28 05:28:40 <placid> imagine everything gone except /opt/media
Jun 28 05:29:03 <pvh> mm, sounds like throwing away all my hard work so far...
Jun 28 05:29:14 <pvh> i guess i can just back up /opt/ and /etc/
Jun 28 05:29:27 <placid> I just haven't established what openslug offers that I don't have with unslung
Jun 28 05:29:32 <pvh> rtorrent.
Jun 28 05:29:42 <placid> nfs, smb and daap pretty much covers it for me
Jun 28 05:29:53 <pvh> what do you use for automated backups?
Jun 28 05:30:05 <placid> rsync
Jun 28 05:30:17 <pvh> how do you have them configured?
Jun 28 05:30:23 <placid> which?
Jun 28 05:30:30 <pvh> rsync
Jun 28 05:30:58 <placid> I have a push setup in cron that pushs stuff I don't want to lose to other machines
Jun 28 05:31:26 <placid> I only have media on slug
Jun 28 05:32:21 <pvh> i see
Jun 28 05:34:36 <pvh> there's definitely something to be said for leaving it passive.
Jun 28 05:34:41 <pvh> i'll have to think about that
Jun 28 05:42:15 <placid> rtorrent is already available for unslung
Jun 28 05:46:25 <pvh> is it? i've had a hell of a time trying to get it working. i haven't looked in a few weeks, but i didn't see anything in the wiki or on the rtorrent site to suggest that it worked under unslung now.
Jun 28 05:46:47 <placid> easiest way is to do an ipkg list
Jun 28 05:47:06 <placid> I'm updating the package to the latest version as i type
Jun 28 05:47:09 <placid> so hold off
Jun 28 05:47:21 <placid> then you can do a $ ipkg update
Jun 28 05:47:28 <placid> $ipkg install rtorrent
Jun 28 05:49:23 <pvh> i love it when problems solve themselves while i'm working on something else
Jun 28 05:49:29 <placid> heh
Jun 28 05:49:47 <pvh> i had this really awful ctorrent script running before.
Jun 28 05:50:02 <placid> dunno I only use azureus
Jun 28 06:32:56 <pvh> placid: gah, it's 3.3 when 5.3 is out
Jun 28 06:33:12 <placid> that's why I said holdoff as I'm updating it
Jun 28 06:34:30 <pvh> placid: oh, i thought you meant you were getting the update
Jun 28 06:34:34 <pvh> and it was on a slow line or so
Jun 28 12:29:13 <CIA-5> 03marcusb * r23 10debian/ixp400-accesslib/ (18 files in 18 dirs): New repository layout, imported upstream tarball
Jun 28 13:23:20 <CIA-5> 03marcusb * r24 10debian/ixp400-accesslib/trunk/ixp400-accesslib/debian/svn-deblayout: Teach svn-buildpackage about the layout.
Jun 28 14:16:03 <CIA-5> 03marcusb * r25 10debian/ixp400-accesslib/ (8 files in 7 dirs): Release 2.1-1.
Jun 28 14:22:36 <CIA-5> 03marcusb * r26 10debian/ixp400-eth/ (31 files in 8 dirs): New repository layout, imported upstream tarball.
Jun 28 14:27:27 <CIA-5> 03marcusb * r27 10debian/ixp400-eth/trunk/ixp400-eth/debian/README.Debian: Correct build instructions.
Jun 28 14:28:58 <CIA-5> 03marcusb * r28 10debian/ixp400-eth/tags/1.5-1/ (10 files in 4 dirs): Release 1.5-1.
Jun 28 14:39:49 <CIA-5> 03marcusb * r29 10debian/ixp400-eth/README.devel: Added build instructions.
Jun 28 17:10:16 <pvh> placid: Are you updating rtorrent, or did I misunderstand you last night?
Jun 28 17:33:15 <CIA-5> 03oleo * r3517 10optware/trunk/ (make/vim.mk sources/vim/configure.in.patch): vim: upstream upgrade to 7.0
Jun 28 17:52:54 <CIA-5> 03gda * r3518 10optware/trunk/make/libmemcache.mk: libmemcache: added -D__linux to CPPFLAGS to allow build on ds101g
Jun 28 18:07:12 <CIA-5> 03oleo * r3519 10optware/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): torrent: add check for /opt/bin/date
Jun 28 18:32:54 <CIA-5> 03gda * r3520 10optware/trunk/make/lua.mk: lua: staging broke if pkgconfig dir didn't exist, fixed
Jun 28 18:45:35 <wam> hi, i use debianslug. My slug init 6's when I press the power button. How can I make it init 0 when the button is pressed?
Jun 28 18:49:05 <caplink811-log> wam, have a look in /etc/inittab, there should be a line with alt+ctrl+del, or something like that, there you can adjust the reboot behavior 
Jun 28 18:49:39 <wam> does the powerbutton simulate ctrlaltdel?
Jun 28 18:49:41 <wam> cool
Jun 28 18:51:07 <EvilDevil> inittab:ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -h now
Jun 28 18:51:49 <wam> that rocks. I'll try. Thanks anyone!
Jun 28 18:52:30 <wam> hmm - will I have to reset the slug once for this to work or will this work *now* ?
Jun 28 18:52:46 <wam> or should I just kill -HUP init?
Jun 28 18:54:33 <wam> ok - got it. I HUP'd and it works. ;)
Jun 28 19:13:54 <CIA-5> 03gda * r3521 10optware/trunk/make/lua.mk: lua: staging broke if pkgconfig dir didn't exist, fixed
Jun 28 19:14:14 <gandhijee> what version of GCC you guys use?
Jun 28 19:14:46 <CIA-5> 03gda * r3522 10optware/trunk/make/libmemcache.mk: libmemcache: added -D__linux to CPPFLAGS to allow build on ds101g
Jun 28 19:16:43 <gandhijee> ~gcc
Jun 28 19:16:45 <jbot> i heard gcc is the GNU Compiler Collection, http://gcc.gnu.org/
Jun 28 19:16:54 <gandhijee> ~version
Jun 28 19:16:56 <jbot> [version] sarge 3.1
Jun 28 19:17:00 <gandhijee> ~gcc version
Jun 28 19:24:55 <EvilDevil> ~version gcc
Jun 28 19:25:27 <EvilDevil> gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20060613 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-2ubuntu3)
Jun 28 19:27:24 <eFfeM> 4.1.2? gcc.gnu.org only lists 4.1.1 (released may 24) and 4.2.0 as active dev 
Jun 28 19:28:44 <gandhijee> evildevil: is everything compiled as little endian now?
Jun 28 19:29:48 <EvilDevil> eFfeM, dunno... it's the stock gcc-4.1 compiler on ubuntu edgy eft
Jun 28 19:30:00 <EvilDevil> gandhijee, ?
Jun 28 19:30:24 <gandhijee> for the nslu, are all the binaries and driver compiled in little endian?
Jun 28 19:30:40 <eFfeM> EvilDevil: now see it it lists ubuntu 4.1.1
Jun 28 19:30:49 <gandhijee> cuz i tried to build a toolchain around 4.x series, but it seems they are busted for big-endian ARM
Jun 28 19:32:29 <EvilDevil> gandhijee, AFAIK the MasterMakefile build-env is using gcc-4.1 right now and the slugos-lag (aka DebianSlug) compiles fine
Jun 28 19:34:52 <gandhijee> you happen to have readelf?
Jun 28 19:35:13 <gandhijee> you mind doing a readelf -h on one of the files in the /lib directory?
Jun 28 19:37:03 <EvilDevil> on the slug? i could do, but there's an older image (march 06) running on the slug
Jun 28 19:37:28 <gandhijee> thats fine
Jun 28 19:37:35 <gandhijee> what is built against a 4.x series?
Jun 28 19:38:18 <EvilDevil> http://paste.css-standards.org/1254
Jun 28 19:38:42 <EvilDevil> that image was built using gcc-3.4
Jun 28 19:40:44 <gandhijee> can you do it on the ixp400.ko too please?
Jun 28 19:41:04 <gandhijee> i am trying to figure out why mine locks my system
Jun 28 19:41:33 <EvilDevil> the ixp4xx.ko on the slug or the one which was built using gcc-4.1?
Jun 28 19:41:45 <CIA-5> 03gda * r3523 10optware/trunk/make/libpng.mk: libpng: Two potential buffer overflows and one out-of-bounds read were fixed
Jun 28 19:43:02 <EvilDevil> http://paste.css-standards.org/1255 (on the slug)
Jun 28 19:44:52 <EvilDevil> hmm.. how can I mount a .jffs2 filesystem (looped) ?
Jun 28 19:46:38 <gandhijee> should just be mount -o loop <file> <mnt point>
Jun 28 19:49:16 <EvilDevil> http://paste.css-standards.org/1256
Jun 28 19:49:21 <EvilDevil> doesn't work
Jun 28 19:50:07 <gandhijee> show the last 10 lines from dmesg
Jun 28 19:52:37 <EvilDevil> nevermind.. i found the ixp400.ko somewhere in the build-env: http://paste.css-standards.org/1257
Jun 28 19:54:16 <gandhijee> hmm
Jun 28 19:54:32 <gandhijee> maybe i should be targeting them as little endian then
Jun 28 19:54:43 <EvilDevil> btw... that module is for 2.6.17
Jun 28 19:54:50 <gandhijee> yea
Jun 28 19:55:04 <EvilDevil> while the one on my slug is for 2.6.16
Jun 28 19:55:21 <gandhijee> they are both target for little endian
Jun 28 19:55:36 <EvilDevil> yes
Jun 28 19:55:56 <eFfeM> backreadning
Jun 28 19:56:10 <eFfeM> gandhijee: EvilDevil, slugos 3.10 uses gcc 3.4.4
Jun 28 19:56:26 <EvilDevil> "ixp400_xscale_sw/lib/linuxle" 
Jun 28 19:56:30 <eFfeM> the monotone head uses gcc 4.1.1 (and gives a 2.6.17 kernel)
Jun 28 19:56:48 <EvilDevil> yup.
Jun 28 19:56:56 <gandhijee> yeah i was wondering if you guys were targeting little endian or big with the newer ones
Jun 28 19:56:58 <eFfeM> if you need an ixp4xx.ko for 3.10 (2.6.16) just get it from the 3.10 feed
Jun 28 19:57:17 <eFfeM> i'm using BE. it is faster wrt networking)
Jun 28 19:57:27 <gandhijee> yea
Jun 28 19:57:49 <gandhijee> i am working on an IXP46x platform right now
Jun 28 19:58:26 <gandhijee> you wouldn't happen to know why i get this error would you
Jun 28 19:58:28 <gandhijee> disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
Jun 28 19:58:42 <gandhijee> my kernel and modules are built with the same gcc
Jun 28 19:59:01 <EvilDevil> gandhijee, sounds like the module wasn't built for the kernel you're running
Jun 28 19:59:15 <gandhijee> ahh, but there in lies the problem
Jun 28 19:59:25 <gandhijee> because they were
Jun 28 20:00:48 <EvilDevil> [17186287.472000] dummy: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module  <- tried loading a module for 2.6.15 while running 2.6.17
Jun 28 20:01:20 <gandhijee> well i know for a fact that they are compiled for the kernel i am running
Jun 28 20:01:32 <gandhijee> only because i compiled the kernel myself and copied the modules over
Jun 28 20:01:35 <eFfeM> gandhijee: this might happen if your includes are wrong and your modules do not compile against your own build kernel but against the kernel of your dev sys
Jun 28 20:01:42 <eFfeM> what version is your dev sys?
Jun 28 20:01:51 <gandhijee> i'm building on gentoo
Jun 28 20:01:59 <EvilDevil> gandhijee, what does modinfo say about the module?
Jun 28 20:02:02 <gandhijee> thing is this just started yesterday
Jun 28 20:02:18 <gandhijee> one sec, i gotta compile that in to busybox
Jun 28 20:02:48 <gandhijee> 2.6.12 ARMv5 gcc-3.3
Jun 28 20:02:58 <gandhijee> and i used 3.3.6 to compile the whole thing
Jun 28 20:03:06 <EvilDevil> and the kernel ver?
Jun 28 20:03:11 <gandhijee> 2.6.12
Jun 28 20:03:58 <EvilDevil> armeb / armv5tel?
Jun 28 20:04:11 <gandhijee> armeb
Jun 28 20:04:21 <gandhijee> kernel is big endian too
Jun 28 20:04:49 <gandhijee> i had it working kinda yesterday. just the machine would lock when the ixp400_eth module was loaded
Jun 28 20:05:48 <EvilDevil> eFfeM, what does modinfo ixp400 | grep vermagic say for openslug?
Jun 28 20:05:53 <gandhijee> i am wondering if i should just blowaway my current install all together and start with a fresh env
Jun 28 20:06:08 <gandhijee> 2.6.12 ARMv5 gcc-3.3
Jun 28 20:06:15 <gandhijee> i'm not using open slug tho
Jun 28 20:06:32 <eFfeM> EvilDevil: vermagic:       2.6.17 preempt mod_unload ARMv5 gcc-4.1
Jun 28 20:06:43 <eFfeM> this is on the monotone head, not on 3.10 !
Jun 28 20:06:58 <gandhijee> eFfeM: you are using big-endian, right?
Jun 28 20:07:07 <eFfeM> gandhijee: I've done this on some occasions and it greatly helps
Jun 28 20:07:20 <eFfeM> you only need to blow the tmp dir (don't blow the downloads)
Jun 28 20:07:22 <EvilDevil> eFfeM, i was just wondering if there was some kind of note about the endianess
Jun 28 20:07:25 <eFfeM> gandhijee: yes BE
Jun 28 20:07:46 <gandhijee> eFfeM: i am using a custom linux. not the openslug stuff
Jun 28 20:08:19 <eFfeM> maybe file tells whether it is be or le:
Jun 28 20:08:19 <eFfeM> /lib/modules/2.6.17/kernel/drivers/ixp400/ixp400.ko: ELF 32-bit MSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (ARM), not stripped
Jun 28 20:08:29 <eFfeM> does the MSB say it is BE?
Jun 28 20:08:30 <gandhijee> eFfeM: readelf -h
Jun 28 20:09:42 <eFfeM> ah, learned a new command (but actually I already knew i was running BE
Jun 28 20:10:22 <eFfeM> gandhijee: with such a nick, are you by any chance from  india?
Jun 28 20:10:31 <gandhijee> my parents are.
Jun 28 20:10:36 <eFfeM> ah, ok
Jun 28 20:10:43 <gandhijee> unfortunatly i was born in the states
Jun 28 20:10:46 <eFfeM> i visit india regularly
Jun 28 20:10:50 <gandhijee> really?
Jun 28 20:10:52 <gandhijee> where abouts?
Jun 28 20:11:02 <eFfeM> yup, was there last week, 3rd time this year
Jun 28 20:11:04 <eFfeM> bangalore
Jun 28 20:11:07 <gandhijee> ahh
Jun 28 20:11:08 <eFfeM> (work)
Jun 28 20:11:14 <gandhijee> my buddy works there
Jun 28 20:11:31 <gandhijee> i plan on going again new years time
Jun 28 20:13:15 <eFfeM> nice
Jun 28 20:13:25 <eFfeM> not in nov for diwali ?
Jun 28 20:14:25 <gandhijee> i would love too. but i have to go back to college
Jun 28 20:14:30 <gandhijee> and finish that thing up
Jun 28 20:18:13 <eFfeM> ah ok
Jun 28 20:18:28 <eFfeM> btw eFfeM is from NL
Jun 28 20:20:34 <gandhijee> ahh
Jun 28 20:22:31 <pvh> placid_: are you around?
Jun 28 21:25:54 <CIA-5> 03gda * r3524 10optware/trunk/make/bison.mk: bison: this was a mess. not really tested
Jun 28 21:34:49 * gandhijee does a little dance
Jun 28 21:34:57 <gandhijee> i finally got the damn NPE's working!
Jun 28 21:55:16 <placid_> pvh: hi, still working on it. found a linking issue I need to resolve
Jun 28 21:55:29 <pvh> placid_: ah, thanks.
Jun 28 21:55:40 <pvh> placid_: if you let me know when it's available, i'll be happy to test it for you.
Jun 28 21:55:59 <placid_> well may take a bit of time. that pesky real life getting in the way
Jun 28 21:56:06 <placid_> will spend more time on it later today
Jun 28 21:56:16 <placid_> it's almost there
Jun 29 00:11:58 <placid_> gda: bison isn't in the makefile so I made the template more consistent but it didn't work previously either
Jun 29 00:14:33 <placid_> oleo: I backed off the vim upstream previously because your config hacks didn't address the problem of building for the wrong platform. it still builds non arm binary and the rpaths are screwed
Jun 29 00:15:33 <placid_> oleo: you should run scripts/optware-check-package.pl before updating the feed
Jun 29 00:17:36 <placid_> oleo: apologies! I hadn't pulled the latest updates down. it does indeed look clean
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