**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 25 02:59:57 2006 Jul 25 06:29:46 03oleo * r3649 10optware/trunk/ (make/torrent.mk sources/torrent/torrent_watchdog): torrent: add max active torrents check Jul 25 08:15:19 03oleo * r3650 10optware/trunk/make/cups.mk: cups: bump IPK version Jul 25 08:54:08 there is something about staging that prevents cups to build! Jul 25 08:57:00 03oleo * r3651 10optware/trunk/make/imagemagick.mk: imagemagick: include libtiff in wl500g build Jul 25 09:13:09 maybe there is old libbackend.a in staging dir? Jul 25 09:29:05 03marcusb * r51 10debian/ixp400-accesslib/trunk/ixp400-accesslib/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Fix module linking. Jul 25 09:32:49 03oleo * r3652 10optware/trunk/make/cups.mk: cups: enforce local libs search paths before staging - this will link libcups.a and libcupsimage.a from ../cups and ../filter and not from staging Jul 25 09:36:07 This commit should end optware bug squashing. Jul 25 10:40:05 does somebody tried ntfs-3g on debianslug? it *should* work... according to the developers' site it should work on 32bit Little Endian systems (-> DebianSlug), i compiled fuse + ntfs-3g but it doesn't seem to work :( Jul 25 10:42:29 hmm,no Jul 25 10:42:35 but I'd like it to work ;) Jul 25 10:46:20 aargh Jul 25 10:46:37 my fingers are totally fscked from playing too much guitar hero :-P Jul 25 10:47:34 http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=19322 Jul 25 10:55:59 hmm Jul 25 10:56:02 doesn't make much sense to me Jul 25 10:56:40 Is it correct that the volume wasn't cleanly unmounted? Jul 25 10:56:49 It looks like it can read bits Jul 25 10:56:58 Like "Daten" Jul 25 11:05:56 odd Jul 25 11:06:16 either my laptop battery is broken, or it's simply too warm in here to charge the battery Jul 25 11:15:54 hey people Jul 25 11:37:17 03marcusb * r52 10debian/ixp400-accesslib/trunk/ixp400-accesslib/debian/README.Debian: Improved build instructions. Jul 25 12:24:06 hi all Jul 25 12:24:44 have a question about forcing a flash based boot from within debian Jul 25 12:25:00 is there a recomended way to do this? Jul 25 12:25:18 we are using nfs mounted debian rootfs above debianslug Jul 25 12:25:32 .recovery is not working anymore as method to force flash boot Jul 25 12:26:04 I tried removing nslu2-utils hoping that this is the reason why .recovery is deleted blindly, but it still does not work Jul 25 12:26:48 maling /initrd rw, chroot there and using turnup flash also does not work, since turnup needs the /proc and /tmp to be there Jul 25 13:38:10 03gda * r3653 10optware/trunk/Makefile: postfix temporarily promoted Jul 25 13:52:05 i'm confused. How can the debian slug OS run in little endian if the CPU only does big endian? (according to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/CPUOverview it can only do Big Endian at least..) Jul 25 13:55:09 Hi. I'm trying to rebuild one of the NSLU kernels, but I'd like to enable QoS support before I build it. Can I run menuconfig against the config file without it reverting everything to x86, or am I stuck editing the config file manually? Jul 25 14:19:44 philpem, run ARCH=arm make menuconfig Jul 25 14:20:22 Blastur, the CPU can be switched to Little Endian mode by software Jul 25 14:21:31 so.. i got this slug, got it like 1 hour ago. i want to make it run debian, "as similar" to my normal debian box running on a standard PC.. can I use apt-get and all if I get debianSlug? Jul 25 14:22:45 Blastur, yes Jul 25 14:23:35 will it be installed on my external disk, or on some "internal" memory of the slug? Jul 25 14:24:31 on the external disk Jul 25 14:25:18 the internal flash rom will be used to boot from the disk (because the nslu2's redboot bootloader cannot boot from disk) Jul 25 14:25:55 okay Jul 25 14:26:07 will i still be able to reach the system from a webinterface to setup shares etc? Jul 25 14:26:22 with DebianSlug? no. Jul 25 14:26:28 only with Unslung Jul 25 14:31:20 hey you guys have an example of the dbtext file from SER/OpenSER? Jul 25 14:33:44 EvilDevil: what about unslung, is it stored in the internal memory only? Jul 25 14:34:49 Blastur, uhmm.. I'm not sure. i think the base system is in the internal memory and the additional packages are on a disk. Jul 25 14:35:15 cause the current system seems to be able to handle things with just the internal memory Jul 25 14:37:41 Blastur, yes.. it does what it does... it's pretty limited in its use IMHO. I use my nslu2 for NFS-serving for my linux boxes, syslogd server, dhcp / dns server, ... Jul 25 14:38:46 cause i'd like the system to not be on the main disk, so that the disk can go to sleep when not using it (i guess hosting the system on the main disk will cause it to spin up at logging etc?) Jul 25 14:39:41 i guess an alternative is to put in a flash memory stick and host the system on that? Jul 25 14:39:56 you could use a usb-memory stick as your main drive... and there are a lot of options to reduce the disk usage on your system disk Jul 25 14:40:28 so how much memory would the system require? if I were to purchase such memory stick Jul 25 14:41:13 minimum: 160 mb for the base debian system + xx mb for additional packages Jul 25 14:41:36 okay, so a 256 or 512 mb stick is required? Jul 25 14:41:47 err, recommended* Jul 25 14:52:58 512 sounds good Jul 25 18:16:43 does anyone know why the tail command doesn't work? Jul 25 18:16:53 i'm using unslung with busybox over ssh Jul 25 18:17:17 when i use: tail or even tail -n 10 ... Jul 25 18:18:10 i can see a loads of text flashing up (overwriting itself) as the system seems to read through the entire file Jul 25 18:32:31 03oleo * r3654 10optware/trunk/make/snownews.mk: snownews: remove linking with lintl - Problem with missing lib may show up again on other targets Jul 25 18:44:12 like this: http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tutorialvz2.swf Jul 25 18:45:43 just use more Jul 25 18:45:46 or less Jul 25 18:47:03 what if i have a 10mb file that i just want to see the last line of? Jul 25 19:25:08 Hi. I'd like to discuss a problem I'm having with the debootstrap command and procedures and see if others have come up with a workaround. Jul 25 19:26:00 The debootstrap instructions claim that the procedure should take at least 50 minutes, but it takes less than 5. Jul 25 19:26:30 Following this I am to 'chroot /mnt/debinst' but this fails because there is no /bin/sh. Jul 25 19:27:09 That would be '/mnt/debinst/bin/sh' prior to the 'chroot'. Jul 25 19:27:41 The error message I report is on the wiki but there is no solution to this problem. Jul 25 19:27:45 What to do? Jul 25 20:07:23 poo Jul 25 20:35:23 anyone know what to do if swapon says "device or resource busy" (swapon /dev/sda2) Jul 25 20:41:49 oh, it was already active :) Jul 25 20:41:56 i thought i had to add swapon to some startup stuff Jul 25 20:42:00 maybe the fstab stuff is enough Jul 25 22:21:38 03bzhou * r3655 10optware/trunk/make/py-kid.mk: py-kid: upstream upgrade to 0.9.3 Jul 25 22:22:08 03bzhou * r3656 10optware/trunk/make/py-paste.mk: py-paste: upstream upgrade to 0.9.5 Jul 25 22:22:43 03bzhou * r3657 10optware/trunk/make/py-sqlalchemy.mk: py-sqlalchemy: upstream upgrade to 0.2.6 Jul 25 22:23:13 03bzhou * r3658 10optware/trunk/make/py-routes.mk: py-routes: upstream upgrade to 1.4 Jul 26 00:27:58 How long will take this postfix testing? Jul 26 02:46:57 hmm, anyone here? Jul 26 02:48:48 sometimes ;) Jul 26 02:49:07 hmm, has anyone got lm-sensors to compile natively? Jul 26 02:49:35 slugos or unslung? Jul 26 02:49:46 unslung Jul 26 02:49:49 I got it to compile on openslug long ago IIRC Jul 26 02:50:10 hm, probably should just switch to openslung then Jul 26 02:51:35 you got *nix experience? :) Jul 26 02:51:49 enough to compile something... heh Jul 26 02:52:21 or get around Jul 26 02:52:51 all i really want is to get this temperature sensor i've connected via i2c to work Jul 26 02:53:23 well, it is a bit more likely you'll succeed with openslug/debianslug Jul 26 02:53:34 * NAiL goes to bed Jul 26 02:53:38 it's 05:15 :P Jul 26 02:54:00 lol, night Jul 26 02:54:10 er, morning **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 26 02:59:57 2006