**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 18 02:59:56 2006 Nov 18 06:29:03 03bzhou * r4498 10optware/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): rlfe: native -> cross Nov 18 09:14:44 03rwhitby * r4499 10optware/trunk/Makefile: rlfe: demoted from wl500g and uclibc Nov 18 12:12:17 ~seen dwery Nov 18 12:12:48 dwery was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-linux, 3d 1h 33m 6s ago, saying: 'np'. Nov 18 14:42:16 hi Nov 18 14:43:31 i installed debianslug a long time ago, at that time the installation was splitted into two parts, 1. install the installer image and install, 2. install a boot image to boot from the disk Nov 18 14:43:53 does the installation works the same today? Nov 18 14:44:59 and if yes, how i can be sure that the boot image start from the harddisk? Nov 18 15:18:57 ~seen rwhitby Nov 18 15:19:14 rwhitby was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-linux, 12h 54m 13s ago, saying: 'morning'. Nov 18 16:58:11 03bzhou * r4500 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/rlfe.mk): rlfe: works for uclibc now Nov 18 18:28:00 eno: ping? You were familiar with buildroot, no? Nov 18 18:30:06 or was that oleo? Nov 18 18:57:58 likewise: looks like I figured out why the uclibc build failed Nov 18 18:58:15 it compiled when I set CROSS=powerpc-linux-uclibc- in Rules.mak in the uClibc dif. Nov 18 18:58:20 s/dif/dir/ Nov 18 18:58:20 NAiL meant: it compiled when I set CROSS=powerpc-linux-uclibc- in Rules.mak in the uClibc dir. Nov 18 18:59:15 So I think it's just getting everything to work with the optware makefile' Nov 18 19:18:07 uh, can anyone connect to www.kynisk.com and tell me what they see? Nov 18 19:18:24 Something strange is happening Nov 18 19:22:29 an apparently german site with a flash animation Nov 18 19:25:29 yeah... somehow my hosting service has given my IP to some other server Nov 18 19:25:58 kynisk.com shows an almost empty page with kynisk.com default page Nov 18 19:26:11 yeah Nov 18 19:33:59 NAiL: sorry, I am a few minutes busy still, will read into your uclibc stuff, looks interesting. Nov 18 19:34:19 like|busy: no worries, I'm in no hurry exactly ;) Nov 18 19:38:24 kfm82: pong Nov 18 19:39:36 NAiL: ok, but what did the CROSS variable in uClibc Rules.mak look like before you made this change? Nov 18 19:40:16 likewise: CROSS= Nov 18 19:40:26 I just hacked around the problem Nov 18 19:41:07 NAiL: ok, then optware completely build and/or worked from there on? Nov 18 19:41:36 I haven't gotten to optware yet Nov 18 19:41:39 I just build crosstool Nov 18 19:41:55 s/d/t/ Nov 18 19:41:56 NAiL meant: I just built crosstool Nov 18 19:42:22 I'm working on getting it into optware now Nov 18 19:43:02 There's quite a few patches and stuff that probably won't work when building the ts101 toolchain Nov 18 19:43:13 it appears that the patches are all based on .28 and mips Nov 18 19:43:31 NAiL: just to make sure: crosstool? not buildroot? Nov 18 19:43:38 oh, sorry, buildroot Nov 18 19:43:46 :-) Nov 18 19:45:01 NAiL: so buildroot worked allright up to building some packages, all with uClibc? Nov 18 19:45:25 I didn't test building any packages actually, just the toolchain Nov 18 19:45:36 but it would appear to be correct Nov 18 19:46:35 NAiL: OK. For *yet* another toolchain for PPC: Steve @ freescale released the SRC RPM for the Freescale supported toolchain: http://www.bitshrine.org/ Nov 18 19:47:00 * nbd thinks the optware stuff should be ported to the new openwrt build system someday Nov 18 19:47:12 nbd: Feel free :-P Nov 18 19:47:15 j/k Nov 18 19:47:25 if i had the time ... Nov 18 19:47:31 openwrt seems to have a lot more packages available Nov 18 19:47:37 so I wouldn't really mind Nov 18 19:48:12 the build system has really evolved a lot since the old uclibc buildroot2 days Nov 18 19:48:19 yeah Nov 18 19:48:31 but there's no powerpc targets in openwrt, is there? Nov 18 19:48:42 there is one Nov 18 19:49:04 'magicbox', which is a small embedded ppc access point Nov 18 19:49:52 aha Nov 18 19:50:08 well, then I probably should just use buildroot-ng Nov 18 19:50:19 and make a target similar to magicbox Nov 18 19:50:55 I'm just interested in getting a build system working and setting up a feed Nov 18 19:51:45 NAiL: how about working from OE instead? Nov 18 19:52:51 I've got no idea how to get that working. Of course, if I could easily make a toolchain and package feed in OE, that'd be the best by far. Nov 18 19:53:04 * nbd thinks openwrt is easier to deal with than oe Nov 18 19:53:22 yeah, but I'm familiar with a bunch of packages in OE already ;-) Nov 18 19:53:31 ah Nov 18 19:54:34 I'm not opposed to using buildroot-ng Nov 18 19:54:47 it looks like a nice system Nov 18 19:56:42 nbd: is there a list of FEATURES for buildroot-ng? (eg. jffs2 pci) Nov 18 19:57:45 not yet Nov 18 19:57:54 i plan to add it to the documentation soon Nov 18 19:58:47 nbd: NAiL means configuration of the rootfs by a list of macro "features" to include, based on the hw capabilities. Nov 18 19:59:35 FEATURES:=pci jffs2 usb ext2 Nov 18 19:59:55 is there eg. "ide"? Nov 18 20:01:58 not yet Nov 18 20:02:42 these keywords are usually only for hard dependencies in the menuconfig system Nov 18 20:02:46 and for the suggested rootfs types Nov 18 20:03:37 you could achieve the same result with menuconfig depends Nov 18 20:04:07 i.e. chose a ts-101 and the Kconfigs automatically include ide support Nov 18 20:04:21 openwrt generates the menuconfig code Nov 18 20:04:22 s/chose/choose/ Nov 18 20:04:22 rwhitby-treo meant: i.e. choose a ts-101 and the Kconfigs automatically include ide support Nov 18 20:04:26 and these keywords are used for that Nov 18 20:05:26 all the config code for packages is autogenerated as well Nov 18 20:06:40 all the target specific metadata is in target/linux//Makefile and all the package specific metadata is in package//Makefile Nov 18 20:06:50 to get rid of all the redundancy Nov 18 20:09:21 can buildroot-ng build uclibc 0.9.27 without problems? :) Nov 18 20:09:28 what for? Nov 18 20:09:36 for an existing firmware Nov 18 20:10:48 or do I have to hack buildroot-ng just the same way I had to hack buildroot? Nov 18 20:10:54 you could edit the config to make 0.9.28 backwards compatible Nov 18 20:11:06 iirc there's an option for that Nov 18 21:06:29 03gda * r4501 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/mp3blaster.mk): new ipk mp3blaster: console mp3 player, couldn't test, because of lack of audio hardware Nov 18 22:31:21 oleo: ping? I've got a diff for buildroot.mk to add support for TS-101 (hopefully). Could you look at it? Nov 18 22:32:54 http://pastebin.com/827698 Nov 18 23:19:43 NAiL: so, you already brought your changes from buildroot into buildroot-ng? Nice piece of work! Nov 19 00:33:25 morning Nov 19 00:35:34 rwhitby: morning Nov 19 00:56:30 good nite, cu Nov 19 00:57:09 hi Nov 19 01:20:14 hey rwhitby Nov 19 01:20:42 hey HopsNBarley Nov 19 01:26:55 hji Nov 19 01:26:56 hi* Nov 19 01:29:54 ive been trying to get openslug beta 4.1 to work, but every time i get this error: FATAL: Module ixp4xx_mac not found. This casuese the mac adress to not be set and the network interface to not work. I cannot find this in the rootfs directory on the build root, any ideas why that is (is it a but in 4.1 or in my setup?) Nov 19 01:32:03 Also, when I look at the config file for the kernel, it shows it as compiled in directly, not as a module Nov 19 01:35:08 I seem to remember the 3.1 needing some "magick" hex number in a file for some MAC adress during bootup. Nov 19 01:35:34 Last time I skipped it and spent loads of time troubleshooting a none booting slug. Nov 19 01:35:51 I know that the 3.1 firmware works (a prebuilt version) Nov 19 01:36:06 But 4.1 is out? Need to have a try of that then. Youre boulding from cvs or? Nov 19 01:36:25 its svn, but yes, im building it form that Nov 19 01:37:02 Oh, svn sorry. Old words die slowly. Nov 19 01:37:33 the kernl is supposed ot have the module built in, but ist also trying to load it. So i would think that since its already ther it should take care of the mac address, but it hasent Nov 19 01:39:17 i might see if there is a way to set the mac addres in the /sys filesystem Nov 19 02:24:44 I seem to have read something about open sourced drivers for the network card in the nslu2. Any pointers to exsisting code, I cant seem to find any. Nov 19 02:25:34 I knw this may be utterly new and horribly broken, but I just wanted to take a look. Appreciate a pointer/url/whatnot. Nov 19 02:39:32 meklort: the mac module problem has been fixed in monotone head now Nov 19 02:40:01 widrone: latest monotone head builds slugos 4.1 with open source driver Nov 19 02:40:09 mac address and microcode load from flash Nov 19 02:40:14 apex is second stage bootloader Nov 19 02:40:23 * rwhitby goes out Nov 19 02:40:40 rwhitby: Ill give a looong hauled "MOOOO" to that, thanks for the info. Nov 19 02:41:00 Guess he just made us both happy and left. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Nov 19 02:59:56 2006