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Dec 16 04:45:46 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r4704 10optware/trunk/make/ffmpeg.mk: ffmpeg: --enable-gpl --enable-pp
Dec 16 04:46:27 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r4705 10optware/trunk/make/bind.mk: bind: 9.3.2 -> 9.3.3
Dec 16 04:59:44 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r4706 10optware/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): bsdmainutils: 6.1.4 -> 6.1.5; cal-weekstart-on-sunday.patch
Dec 16 07:13:06 <placid_> anyone added a serial port to their slug?
Dec 16 07:20:10 <mwester> Most certainly.  Serial port as in a USB attached serial port, or as a console device?
Dec 16 07:20:31 <placid_> via the header on the board
Dec 16 07:20:54 <placid_> looking for a suitable phone cable on ebay and there is a bewildering array of choices
Dec 16 07:21:25 <placid_> am I safe with pretty much any usb type cable with a dongle?
Dec 16 07:21:52 <placid_> or should I aim for a cable that specifically supports on of the pages on the wiki?
Dec 16 07:21:56 <mwester> Not in my experience -- I don't know how to tell what's in the dongles, but not all of them have a USB->serial chip.
Dec 16 07:22:02 <placid_> ah
Dec 16 07:23:39 <mwester> Stick with the ones on the wiki to be sure.  When I guessed, I got one with a promising-looking "bump" in the cable -- but when I opened the plastic, the circuit board inside had what appeared to be traces for the mounting of a chip, but no chip present -- just jumpers and a small switch for that model of cable.
Dec 16 07:23:56 <placid_> ah
Dec 16 07:24:31 <placid_> yeah I have enough badly guessed gear lieing around already
Dec 16 07:24:56 <placid_> such as my netgear wg511 v2 which is poorly supported under linux
Dec 16 07:25:22 <mwester> Google the phone itself to see what you can find about the phone that the cable is intended for -- had I done that, I would have discovered that the phone mathcing the cable I purchased had a native USB interface instead of 3.3v serial.
Dec 16 07:27:23 <mwester> I have a very old Windows laptop with a 54Mb WiFi miniPCI in it -- because I guessed wrong and bought one with a Broadcom chipset for my main Linux laptop.  It didn't work, so the tired old Windows laptop got a brand-new card.
Dec 16 07:28:36 <placid_> turns out the v2 used a different chipset from v1 and v3 but I don't run windows on any of my machines so it just fills a slot
Dec 16 07:49:30 <placid_> based on compatibility with old nokia 3100 I am bidding on a compatible ca-42 cable for 99 cents
Dec 16 08:41:23 <rand> what kind of USB enclosures are compatibly with Unslung?
Dec 16 08:41:35 <rand> I couldn't find a hardware compatibility chart anywhere
Dec 16 08:41:43 <rwhitby> look in the nslu2-general yahoo group
Dec 16 08:41:51 <rwhitby> there is a database there,
Dec 16 08:41:58 <rwhitby> just about all are compatible
Dec 16 08:42:10 <rwhitby> (unless you're expecting spin-down)
Dec 16 08:42:44 <rand> great, thanks, I'll go look it up.
Dec 16 08:45:55 <rand> do you have to be a member of the group to see the database?
Dec 16 08:48:38 <rwhitby> probably
Dec 16 08:49:11 <rand> Unslung won't do spin-down?  or it depends on the enclosure?
Dec 16 08:50:19 <rwhitby> depends on enclosure.  In general, it won't unless you have the right enclosure.  There is plenty of stuff on the wiki about that.
Dec 16 08:50:53 <rand> should I be asking this kind of question in #nslu2-general instead?
Dec 16 08:58:57 <rwhitby> rand: probably
Dec 16 09:07:37 <rand> okay, I will come back when I learn more
Dec 16 09:30:13 <CIA-8> 03blaster8 * r623 10kernel/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix 2.6.20-rc1 ARM compile warnings
Dec 16 11:08:49 <NAiL> Anyone got any thoughts on whether or not it's a good idea to use UIO (http://www.kroah.com/log/2006/12/13/) for stuff like extra buttons (usbcopy) and stuff like that on various devices?
Dec 16 15:23:56 <oleo> I need to rename uclibc to a) opt-uclibc b) uclibc-opt . What would you suggest? Currently I have opt-uclibc but uclibc-opt seems better.
Dec 16 15:33:41 <mwester> NAiL: Yes, sounds like a perfect application for it.  I also wonder if there might be a way to integrate the LED subsystem -- i.e. provide a means to designate an LED as UIO using the appropriate command, and give over control of it to the UIO driver.
Dec 16 15:34:45 <mwester> oleo: option (b) has the advantage that when sorting, uclibc variants will all be grouped.  I vote for (b) as well.
Dec 16 15:35:41 <NAiL> mwester: LEDs would be nice too
Dec 16 15:35:58 <NAiL> Someone with C knowledge needs to look at it though :-P
Dec 16 15:36:57 <NAiL> I couldn't get "other" buttons to work the way I wanted it in kernel-space
Dec 16 15:37:11 <NAiL> since I basically wanted it to exec a shellscript
Dec 16 15:37:25 <NAiL> which can't be done in an interrupt context
Dec 16 15:38:41 <NAiL> but with UOI, I assume that would be rather easy, seeing as we're already in user-space
Dec 16 15:39:53 <mwester> That appears to be the idea; I think one would merely write a small C-program that would be the user-space driver, and said program could execute the correct shell script when the correct events come from UIO.
Dec 16 15:40:42 <NAiL> I'm not sure about the inner workings of this, but this could support several devices right?
Dec 16 15:41:20 <NAiL> eg. nslu2, fsg-3, dsmg600, ts-101, n2100, nas100d etc? :)
Dec 16 15:47:40 <oleo> mwester tnx. will change to b)
Dec 16 18:39:33 <adarof> hi! ANyone could help me on debugging my NSLU? Suddenly the boot procedure seems to hold somewhere with blinking LEDs, no sysupdate no changes :-/ 
Dec 16 18:40:59 <adarof> It seems to boot (accesses the HDD) and than ...nothing. No ssh login, and nothing to fin within the /var/log/messages
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