**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 18 02:59:57 2007 Feb 18 04:57:32 03bzhou * r5525 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/netatalk.mk): added and promoted netatalk Feb 18 05:49:01 03bzhou * r5526 10optware/trunk/make/pcre.mk: pcre: s/prefix/STAGING_PREFIX/ $(STAGING_PREFIX)/bin/pcre-config Feb 18 07:00:55 03bzhou * r5527 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/dansguardian.mk): added and promoted dansguardian Feb 18 15:03:27 rwhitby: I need to wait for the serial cable to continue w/ altboot. I hope I get the parts this week Feb 18 15:51:27 03gda * r5528 10optware/trunk/make/clamav.mk: clamav: 0.88.7 -> 0.90 Feb 18 15:51:36 CoreDump|home: I got ntpclient working Feb 18 15:51:40 pretty cool Feb 18 15:51:56 does some good stuff with regard to clock drift adjustment Feb 18 15:53:39 CoreDump|home: what's the story with story with timezones on the slug? hardware clock is set to UTC but where to I set the software clock timezone? Feb 18 16:14:07 03gda * r5529 10optware/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): clamav: fixed *.conf files Feb 18 16:15:28 hi, where must i chance the kernel-config for building additional kernel-modules in mastermake-environment? /.config is overwritten everytime starting make Feb 18 16:19:53 presumably in the related .bb file Feb 18 16:20:04 * hillct is not certain in the case of the kernel Feb 18 16:20:29 openembedded/packages/linux/ixp4xx-something/2.6.20/defconfig Feb 18 16:21:18 ok, i try this , tnx Feb 18 16:21:27 VoodooZ: any idea why uname -a output doesn't properly report the OS name? Feb 18 16:21:57 ixp4xx-kernel actually.. Feb 18 16:22:10 not sure. never noticed. Feb 18 16:23:31 yeah, mine doesn't say it either... I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to implement Feb 18 16:25:35 hillct: actually, /etc/issue contains the string in question but uname probably doesn't refer to it. Feb 18 16:27:01 and that file is obsolete I read. Feb 18 16:27:08 yeah, I think uname pulls it from the kernel itself Feb 18 16:28:13 as far as I know, issue is still used for login greeting messages (prior to login) Feb 18 16:28:34 ok Feb 18 16:28:53 perhaps the "elders" would know more... :) Feb 18 16:28:56 in that almost no deployed servers report platform information prior to login, for security reasons) it is obsolete Feb 18 16:29:09 logicxal Feb 18 16:29:17 and I believe it's only used for telnet, not SSH Feb 18 16:44:13 hi guys, is there any NAS solution that supports rsync off-the-shelf ? Feb 18 16:46:01 dwery: rsync can be used across any two mounted filesystems Feb 18 16:46:19 if you want to use it across the network, you need something that supports sftp Feb 18 16:46:44 I know, but I prefer not to remote mount the volumes. so , as most NAS uses linux, I was wondering if any of them has the rsync daemon active Feb 18 16:46:51 a buddy of mine uses rsync with SimpleShare Feb 18 16:47:59 I'll give it a look, ty Feb 18 16:53:17 they're more expensive than slugs Feb 18 16:53:27 but a little faster as they're not USB based Feb 18 16:54:01 there's aparently some open firmware for the SimpleShare though I don't know anyone who's tried it Feb 18 16:54:24 if you want simple, you can go with UnSlung Feb 18 16:54:58 openssh and rsync are both available as optware Feb 18 16:55:11 as is rmirrror, which comes in handy Feb 18 16:55:44 I'll be moving rmirror to OE next Feb 18 17:14:02 hillct. simpleshare is pretty much same as asus wl700ge. someone posted necessary patches to run openwrt on simpleshare to dev.openwrt.org about week ago. Feb 18 17:16:01 there's one other distro for it Feb 18 17:16:06 checking Feb 18 17:17:17 http://www.openfsg.org Feb 18 17:19:38 dwery: if you want one that'll run the backup job locally (pulling across the network) rather th remotely mounting the filesystem and running the backup job on the client box, you'll need one that supports SFTP out of the box, and that's hard to come by in the consumer level nas devices Feb 18 17:20:12 hillct: nod. thank you. Feb 18 17:20:44 hillct. openfsg is for freecom fsg3. it's completely different architechture (broadcom mipsel vs. intel xscale arm) Feb 18 17:21:17 yeah Feb 18 17:21:46 the simpleshare boxes I've seen are broadcom based Feb 18 17:22:13 maybe there are some models that are ARM based. I don't know Feb 18 17:23:27 the build is based on a maxtor device that uses the same CPU Feb 18 17:23:27 ok Feb 18 17:23:27 no, I'm an idiot Feb 18 17:24:03 wrong URL Feb 18 17:24:07 http://www.openmss.org Feb 18 17:24:07 THAT is the one meant Feb 18 17:25:33 the proper URL makes all the difference Feb 18 17:26:20 yes, older maxtors used same broadcom stuff as wl700ge and simpleshare does. new ones are arm (but not xscale) Feb 18 17:37:26 hmm Feb 18 17:38:00 my new package of ntpclient, wants an ntp server, where would be the best place to get and set such a value? Feb 18 17:38:44 on fedora boxes, it would be /etc/sysconfig/time or some such file that would simply set the variable and be sourced in the init script Feb 18 17:38:57 is there a standard for such things for OpenSlug? Feb 18 17:39:54 in version 1 of the package, I think I'll just hardcode it Feb 18 18:14:01 hello.. I'm trying to build a new image for my NSLU2. I wonder, what endianess will give the best performance? (is there a difference?) and also, of all the images built by the MasterMakefile, will they use the opensource network driver? cause i've had problems with my network using Debian Installer RC1 (network stalls etc) Feb 18 18:16:15 BE Feb 18 18:16:24 Yes Feb 18 18:16:32 ;) Feb 18 18:17:03 BigEndian gives you the best performance. The performance loss using LE (with the old driver, dunno with the new driver) was ~30% Feb 18 18:17:16 cool, is the network stalling issues resolved in the repository version? Feb 18 18:17:26 New builds using the master makefile will use the new driver Feb 18 18:17:35 I'm not sure, but I *think* it has been resolved Feb 18 18:17:42 which one are you using? Feb 18 18:17:54 the older revisions of the open driver was prone to hanging apparently. Feb 18 18:18:05 I'm still on 3.10-beta, which uses the old driver. Feb 18 18:18:41 the old, as in the linksys driver, or the first rev of the opensource? Feb 18 18:21:27 i used to run the 3.10-beta aswell, and it seems to work well... but then again, i don't have much outgoing traffic from my nslu2 since it only acts as a backup unit. My friend however, had massive issues with the 3.10-beta, getting network packet corruption etc when transmitting packets (while running it as a ftp server).. after some googling, i found out that others have experienced the same issues Feb 18 18:26:46 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/SlugosbeDevel has just been updated with some more detail regarding minimum toolchain builds. I mention this only because I don't know if I broke any formatting conventions or other policies used on this particular wiki Feb 18 18:29:05 NAiL: my new ntpclient package is looking pretty good. Seems like it shouldn't replace openntpd though as it's only a client, might be valuable in the alternative Feb 18 18:29:36 currently it has a dependency on cron, but I'm going to do away with the dependency before submitting it Feb 18 18:32:59 It would be neat to be able to have a mechanism that runs optionally for te first 24 hours after Turnup is run, to collect clock skew data and come up with a value for adjtimex Feb 18 18:33:16 although I havn't worked out the best mechanism for accomplishing that as yet Feb 18 18:37:05 hillct: a shellscript with "sleep 3600 ; ntpclient"? ;) Feb 18 18:38:25 hillct: wiki page looks good Feb 18 18:38:37 haven't read all the contents, just skimmed, but it looks ok Feb 18 18:38:59 * NAiL just got an up-to-date u-boot running on the TS-101 Feb 18 18:39:09 with tftp/ide support Feb 18 18:39:12 ntpclient itself supports a daemon mode Feb 18 18:39:33 yeah, but it doesn't support a time-limited daemon mode, does it? ;) Feb 18 18:39:44 it does Feb 18 18:39:46 actually Feb 18 18:39:56 oh Feb 18 18:39:57 cool Feb 18 18:39:59 and Feb 18 18:41:01 a daemon mode where it will continue to check an ntp server at an interval until it gets a time within a certain (definable) acceptable skew Feb 18 18:41:08 then it will exit Feb 18 18:41:13 it's pretty cool stuff Feb 18 18:42:31 but in terms of data gathering for adjtimex, it would need ot be run from cron, redirecting output to a log file, repeatedly, perhaps every 5 minutes, for 24 hours Feb 18 18:43:10 then that data would need to be parsed using an included awk script, and the returned value, used to add a call to adjtimex, in rc.local or some such thing Feb 18 18:46:41 hmm Feb 18 18:46:44 kinda advanced Feb 18 18:46:50 yay Feb 18 18:46:55 * NAiL got ipkg working on the TS-101 Feb 18 18:49:50 which? time skew adjustment? possibly, but not if it can be automated in a reasonable way Feb 18 18:53:39 perhaps, enable two cron jobs, the first running every 5 minutes, gathering skew data, the second setup to run in 24 hours after the job was setup (presumably by a script). This second job would evaluate the data from the first, make the appropriate adjtimex entry in /etc/rc.local or wherever, and update /etc/crontab to remove the two jobs Feb 18 18:54:56 the setup script could be run at any time, including from within turnup, such that clock skew could be appropriately handled with a minimum of hastles Feb 18 18:55:02 "at"? Feb 18 18:55:37 instead of the second crontab Feb 18 18:56:12 possibly Feb 18 18:56:18 is it included in busybox? Feb 18 18:56:26 we don't want to create another dependency Feb 18 18:57:14 nope. it's not Feb 18 18:58:08 perhaps it's a busybox compile-time option but I don't think it's generally useful enough to justify including 'at' just to handle this case Feb 18 19:02:46 nah Feb 18 19:29:59 03bzhou * r5530 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/snort.mk): upgraded snort to 2.6.1.2 and promoted Feb 18 19:41:01 oleo: ping? Feb 18 21:13:01 03bzhou * r5531 10optware/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): added and promoted icecast Feb 18 22:11:55 03bzhou * r5532 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/pure-ftpd.mk): pure-ftpd: added and promoted as native package right now Feb 18 22:48:04 I'm having problems passing arguments to the executable being run using start-stop-daemon in my init script Feb 18 22:48:37 I gather it's documented somewhere on busybox.net but I haven't found it Feb 18 22:50:59 03bzhou * r5533 10optware/trunk/ (make/clamav.mk sources/clamav/uclibc-shared-output.c.patch): clamav: patch to noop gettext if uclibc Feb 18 22:55:57 this command works fine outside of an init script Feb 18 22:55:59 start-stop-daemon --start --background --make-pidfile --pidfile /var/run/ntpclient.pid --exec /sbin/ntpclient -- -i 600 -h pool.ntp.org Feb 18 22:56:30 but in the script, it fails to parse the items after -- as args to ntpclient Feb 19 00:14:39 ok. got it squared away Feb 19 00:27:07 NAiL: would you like to mess with my initial ntpclient package or do you think it'd be more valuable with the adjtimex stuff in place? Feb 19 01:16:37 Running debian slug, but running into safe_sync problems w/ rtorrent, is it possible to upgrade/downgrade the kernel? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Feb 19 03:00:00 2007