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Apr 12 05:19:44 <rwhitby> RobNC: congrats!
Apr 12 05:21:50 <RobNC> hey thanks... dunno how or why it didn't work!
Apr 12 05:22:22 <RobNC> those darned (incorrect) wiki pages.  I used single-quote and that didn't work - double quotes I am not sure if they are needed but no quotes worked!
Apr 12 05:23:35 <RobNC> now just to find some program that will stress test the memory before I trust it
Apr 12 05:23:41 <rwhitby> yep
Apr 12 05:23:47 <jacques> what was the problem a couple of weeks ago with the really slow ram performance?
Apr 12 05:24:59 <RobNC> dunno, that may have been the debian installer.  I haven't actually done any kind of speed test now (performance).  I notice with 32MiB NSLU2, it runs a very lean installer (low memory mode) but it didn't do that with 256M.  Maybe it was trying to start up an X server :-)
Apr 12 05:26:38 <jacques> yeah true
Apr 12 05:26:38 <RobNC> This page is what hosed me up:  http://wiki.buici.com/wiki/NSLU2_Memory_Expansion_--_Fat_Slug  It uses single-quotes and I assumed that apex-env and I assumed that it had the same arguments as Apex at the actual boot prompt.
Apr 12 05:27:07 <jacques> I like lmbench
Apr 12 05:27:20 <jacques> hdparm -T is quicker and dirtier
Apr 12 05:27:23 <RobNC> maybe some kind of folding app.  
Apr 12 05:27:32 <RobNC> yeah lemme try that hdparm
Apr 12 05:28:11 <RobNC> what other params for "hdparm -T"?
Apr 12 05:28:27 <RobNC> like /dev/yada/yada
Apr 12 05:29:04 <RobNC> sdparm != hdparm
Apr 12 05:30:09 <RobNC>  Timing cached reads:    92 MB in  2.03 seconds =  45.25 MB/sec
Apr 12 05:30:23 <RobNC> that was with "hdparm -T /dev/sda"
Apr 12 05:30:25 <jacques> ok that's decent
Apr 12 05:31:14 <RobNC> doesn't use 256MiB yet tho... only 92MiB
Apr 12 05:31:20 <jacques> I always forget - but depending on your libc and its patches, I think you get either right at 50MB/s or right at 100MB/s
Apr 12 05:31:30 <jacques> well hdparm is kinda silly
Apr 12 05:31:44 <jacques> it does what it can in as close to 2 seconds as it can get
Apr 12 05:31:54 <RobNC> true but ppl still use it even though PATA is on its way out ...
Apr 12 05:32:09 <jacques> different versions of hdparm behave very differently too, so cannot be compared
Apr 12 05:32:12 <RobNC> Oh I see so it is a timed benchmark, not based on size
Apr 12 05:32:30 <jacques> which version is that?
Apr 12 05:32:45 <RobNC> 6.9
Apr 12 05:32:54 <RobNC> from D-I Etch
Apr 12 05:33:27 <RobNC> Holy smokes... atp-get update took like 2 seconds!  Used to take like at least 30 seconds
Apr 12 05:33:39 <jacques> heh
Apr 12 05:33:49 * jacques starts to get envious.
Apr 12 05:34:11 <RobNC>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Apr 12 05:34:20 <RobNC> Mem:        257392      35924     221468          0       2752      20576
Apr 12 05:34:29 <ka6sox-laptop> RobNC, we have 2 slugs (Bob and Wendy) which have been trying to build Sid for about a Year...they are struggling because they only have 32MB of ram (swapping all the time)
Apr 12 05:34:44 <RobNC> Swap:       257024          0     257024
Apr 12 05:34:47 <RobNC> swap not even touched 
Apr 12 05:34:51 <ka6sox-laptop> this is for the armeb port of Debian (official)
Apr 12 05:35:30 <ka6sox-laptop> we turned them off because there was no hope of keeping up with all the swapping.
Apr 12 05:36:04 <RobNC> ka6sox yeah I can see that.  My purpose of FatSLUG is because I run rsync nfs mount off my linux server, and rsync is a memory hog (when you are rsync'ing over 100000 files)
Apr 12 05:36:40 <ka6sox-laptop> the traces are soo small that even with my hot air rework I've been having trouble
Apr 12 05:37:05 <ka6sox-laptop> I've toasted 2 Slugs :(
Apr 12 05:37:46 <RobNC> wow how is that?
Apr 12 05:37:49 <ka6sox-laptop> anything doing cc1plus is d00med.
Apr 12 05:37:49 <jacques> where is RobNC located?
Apr 12 05:38:03 <jacques> heh, RobNC where are you located?
Apr 12 05:38:09 <RobNC> could always do a traceroute to my IP :-)
Apr 12 05:38:14 <ka6sox-laptop> he he
Apr 12 05:38:43 <RobNC> Raleigh-Durham NC
Apr 12 05:38:48 <RobNC> USA
Apr 12 05:38:53 <ka6sox-laptop> My sister in law lives there.
Apr 12 05:39:08 <jacques> I'm in Texas
Apr 12 05:39:16 <ka6sox-laptop> I was looking for a job at UNC-Chapel Hill
Apr 12 05:39:42 <ka6sox-laptop> (when we were looking to buy something to live in)
Apr 12 05:39:58 <RobNC> cool...  UNC is in Chapel Hill area
Apr 12 05:40:05 <ka6sox-laptop> pretty area
Apr 12 05:53:59 <rwhitby> all we need is dyoung, and we'd have the original founders all here ...
Apr 12 05:54:41 <jacques> yeah, I miss dyoung
Apr 12 05:55:07 <rwhitby> you make him sound like he's passed away or something.
Apr 12 05:55:26 <rwhitby> is he still out on a boat? or just busy?
Apr 12 05:56:42 <ka6sox-laptop> very very buys
Apr 12 05:56:45 <ka6sox-laptop> er busy
Apr 12 05:56:55 * [g2] had a bunch of the founder feelings the last couple weeks
Apr 12 05:57:13 <[g2]>  hacking the Apple Tvs
Apr 12 05:59:29 <rwhitby> [g2]: you been hacking AppleTV?
Apr 12 05:59:44 <jacques> didn't mean to make it sound like it
Apr 12 05:59:46 <[g2]> rwhitby, for several weeks
Apr 12 05:59:47 <jacques> like that
Apr 12 06:00:51 <[g2]> rwhitby, there are about half a dozen ppl in the channel running Linux on it
Apr 12 06:02:18 <[g2]> there's an issue with the usb 2.0 support, but the most everything works
Apr 12 06:02:33 <rwhitby> [g2]: which channel?
Apr 12 06:03:17 <jacques> I saw something about a bounty for usb support
Apr 12 06:03:26 <[g2]> rwhitby,  http://www.awkwardtv.org/ see the "IRC" link
Apr 12 06:03:33 <[g2]> jacques, it's a $1K bounty iirc
Apr 12 06:03:57 <[g2]> that's for a boot on usb without opening the case
Apr 12 06:04:00 <jacques> shouldn't be long then
Apr 12 06:04:12 <jacques> hmm, is that for OSX or linux?
Apr 12 06:04:17 <[g2]> actually, it'll probably be a while
Apr 12 06:04:27 <[g2]> jacques, it doesn't matter really
Apr 12 06:04:40 <jacques> oh, some efi thing?
Apr 12 06:04:55 <[g2]> jacques, my understanding of the issue is there's a checksum on the efi image
Apr 12 06:05:08 <RobNC> ttyl guys, gonna do some fat rsync'ing and get some zzz...
Apr 12 06:05:16 <[g2]> so it doesn't just load and run any image, just the one that comes with the box
Apr 12 06:05:18 <jacques> later RobNC 
Apr 12 06:05:27 <ka6sox-laptop> nn RobNC 
Apr 12 06:05:27 <[g2]> RobNC, going to trilug tomorrow ?
Apr 12 06:06:36 <RobNC> Haven't been in about a year - my 5yr old son would be in bed by the time I got home.  I have wanted to go but it seems that $BOSS always comes by 6PM and stays until 6:45 then too late for TriLUG
Apr 12 06:07:34 <RobNC> I have wanted to go - it's in RedHat now right?
Apr 12 06:07:41 <[g2]> yeah
Apr 12 06:07:47 <[g2]> RH HQ
Apr 12 06:08:19 <RobNC> yeah haven't been there - isn't that near NCState or?
Apr 12 06:09:03 <[g2]> yeah I think it's in the campus
Apr 12 06:09:18 <ka6sox-laptop> we almost bought a duplex about 1mi south of State.
Apr 12 06:09:21 <ka6sox-laptop> NC State
Apr 12 06:09:34 <RobNC> gotcha.  I avoid downtown nearly as much as I avoid Crabtree mall
Apr 12 06:09:57 <ka6sox-laptop> my sister in law calls it Crabgrass
Apr 12 06:10:04 <RobNC> supposed to be cheaper than CAL
Apr 12 06:10:13 <ka6sox-laptop> it is
Apr 12 06:10:27 <ka6sox-laptop> but we found a place here so we aren't going anywhere 
Apr 12 06:10:48 <RobNC> floods there all the time.  Yeah I understand.  Bolted down.  :-)
Apr 12 06:11:10 <RobNC> g2 are you TriLUGer?
Apr 12 06:11:25 <[g2]> RobNC, pretty often
Apr 12 06:12:09 <RobNC> I might try to get back into that.  Then again, I went when my son was crawling (man how time flies!)
Apr 12 06:12:46 <[g2]> RobNC, ain't that the truth... make sure you get home early to play with him
Apr 12 06:13:19 <RobNC> yeah this month is bad b/c too many work projects.
Apr 12 06:14:04 <RobNC> Sure glad I can look forward to putting my SLUG back together now.  Wife will be ecstatic!
Apr 12 06:15:39 <RobNC> wanted to make some more USB ports.  That way, I can maybe spin dwn the 3.5" Seagates and have a laptop 2.5" HDD with the OS
Apr 12 06:16:07 <[g2]> rwhitby, so the channel went from like 0 to 130 in a few days
Apr 12 06:16:23 <[g2]> my how things have changed the last few years
Apr 12 06:17:07 <RobNC> g2: need to work at SAS to get home early.  Those guys don't even work 40hrs week :-)
Apr 12 06:17:20 <[g2]> heh
Apr 12 06:19:51 <RobNC> Oh rwhitby I did modify the Debian FatSlug instructions to remove the quote (to "fix" the instructions).  Dunno why I never thought of that before.  Documentation is always done last :-)
Apr 12 06:22:50 <[g2]> cheers all
Apr 12 06:23:17 <RobNC> take it easy guys g2 ka6 rwhitby jacques
Apr 12 06:24:00 <rwhitby> RobNC: cheers
Apr 12 07:27:43 <rwhitby> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320014 <- same specs as a slug (different processor) with wireless to boot, for USD$80.
Apr 12 10:02:53 <McMadd> I know this is a dev-chan and I'm not a developer but maybe I can drop this here..
Apr 12 10:04:02 <McMadd> I was wondering if an attempt could be made to combine these two projects: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter and http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/X11
Apr 12 17:51:27 <CIA-5> 03bzhou * r5922 10optware/trunk/make/py-pastescript.mk: py-pastescript: 1.3.2 -> 1.3.3
Apr 12 18:47:03 <CIA-5> 03oleo * r5923 10optware/trunk/make/firmware-oleg.mk: firmware-oleg: 1.9.2.7-7f->1.9.2.7-7g
Apr 12 19:03:29 <CIA-5> 03bzhou * r5924 10optware/trunk/make/py-beaker.mk: py-beaker: 0.6.2 -> 0.6.3
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