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May 27 06:00:34 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6078 10optware/trunk/scripts/optware-check-package.pl: added gumstix1151
May 27 06:12:15 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6079 10optware/trunk/platforms/ (packages-gumstix1151.mk toolchain-gumstix1151.mk): added platforms/*-gumstix1151.mk
May 27 06:39:41 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6080 10optware/trunk/sources/perl/Cross/config.sh-arm-linux: perl: added config.sh-arm-linux for gumstix1151
May 27 09:48:22 <xkr47> morning
May 27 09:48:40 <rwhitby> morning
May 27 09:48:50 <rwhitby> anyone interesting in testing OpenWRT on the NSLU2?
May 27 09:50:12 <xkr47> if I weren't so busy, I would sign up :/
May 27 10:06:36 <rwhitby> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenWRT/HomePage
May 27 10:29:11 <xkr47> rwhitby, I guess this page should be updated also.. http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/NSLU2
May 27 10:29:30 <rwhitby> yeah, after testing
May 27 13:38:25 <osas> rwhitby: what are the pros and cons of openwrt over other nslu distributions (like unslung and slugosbe)?
May 27 13:44:42 <DrJ> none
May 27 13:44:47 <DrJ> openwrt is crap
May 27 13:46:38 <DrJ> openwrt is for a router though
May 27 13:46:40 <DrJ> not the nslu2
May 27 13:46:54 <DrJ> and all I had with it was problems
May 27 13:47:04 <DrJ> multidaily lockups
May 27 13:47:08 <DrJ> it was great
May 27 13:54:49 <osas> I have dd-wrt running on my router
May 27 13:55:06 <osas> with optware packages
May 27 13:55:12 <osas> it works great :-)
May 27 13:56:35 <osas> but I don't see what openwrt could bring to nslu ... that is not already provided by one of the other distributions ...
May 27 13:57:48 <osas> unless you want to use your nslu as a router (by adding an USB eth/wireless port )
May 27 15:37:27 <mwester> osas: WRT is what you would run if you wanted a firmware-only distro
May 27 15:37:56 <osas> I see
May 27 15:39:05 <hrw> mwester: especially when you look at how openwrt team handle upgrades..
May 27 15:41:27 <hrw> in short: not at all. need to reflash each time
May 27 15:43:57 <mwester> :) Think of it as an opportunity to clean up!
May 27 15:45:29 <hrw> mwester: I prefer to think of it as crappy way
May 27 15:45:47 <hrw> I have openwrt on my wrt54gs and prefer to not use it on other machines
May 27 15:47:55 <mwester> I use dd-wrt on a wrt54gs.  The lack of an upgrade can be considered a "feature" on a security-sensitive device such as a router, I suppose.
May 27 15:48:51 <hrw> I upgraded few parts and regullary update web interface but nothing more
May 27 15:49:04 <hrw> "if it works dont fix it" rule ;)
May 27 15:49:19 <mwester> I'm considering the use of an NSLU2 as a remote data-collection device, and WRT firmware would mean I have no need for external storage.
May 27 15:49:50 <osas> I use dd-wrt with optware on my router
May 27 15:49:55 <hrw> my nslu req hdd ;)
May 27 15:50:14 <osas> I prefer flash
May 27 15:50:29 <osas> w/ ramfs
May 27 15:50:42 <osas> and one slug per application
May 27 15:50:51 <osas> so I don't need to swap
May 27 15:51:47 <osas> btw, I got asterisk 1.4 up and running on openslug
May 27 15:58:07 <osas> unslung seems to be less memory hungry then openslug
May 27 15:58:59 <osas> after I kill all linksys stuff on unslung I have way more free memory then openslug without any extra packages
May 27 16:07:05 <osas> hmm .. actually that's not true.  After installing procps I got the right output on free
May 27 16:14:00 <xkr47> hehe
May 27 16:14:16 <xkr47> so what was the result according to free :)
May 27 16:16:36 <osas> one sec
May 27 16:19:42 <osas> http://pastebin.ca/514179
May 27 16:20:10 <osas> unslung has all the linksys stuff off, but I have asterisk in slim mode running
May 27 16:20:27 <osas> so it should be pretty much the same :)
May 27 17:22:51 <CIA-8> 03blaster8 * r851 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.22/ (15 files): Update SVN to 2.6.22-rc3 with new patches
May 27 17:31:56 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6081 10optware/trunk/ (8 files in 3 dirs): oleo: added and promoted
May 27 18:19:12 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6082 10optware/trunk/platforms/packages-ts72xx.mk: oleo: demoted on ts72xx
May 27 19:58:21 <CIA-8> 03blaster8 * r852 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.22/ (14-eeprom-new-notifier.patch 44-ixp4xx-net-eth.patch): Refresh patches
May 27 19:59:52 <CIA-8> 03blaster8 * r853 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.22/ (4 files): Add mac_plat_info patches for other ixp4xx
May 27 20:29:50 <CIA-8> 03blaster8 * r854 10kernel/trunk/patches/2.6.22/ (3 files): One moreixp4xx cleanup
May 27 22:53:01 <rwhitby> osas: the main reason for openwrt ixp4xx support is for devices like the nas100d, dsmg600, fsg3.  It is also the distro which provides the most space for in-flash packages.
May 27 23:17:23 <xkr47> is the internal flash faster/slower than typical usb sticks?
May 27 23:19:05 <rwhitby> xkr47: hmm - dunno.
May 27 23:19:47 <xkr47> I guess dd if=... will reveal
May 27 23:19:55 <xkr47> ofc they also use different filesystems..
May 27 23:31:13 <osas> rwhitby: I see. k
May 27 23:45:48 <rwhitby> In essence, if I want a device that works for wireless stuff, I will go for openwrt rather than try and roll my own with SlugOS or Debian, cause I know that there are lots of wireless experts working on openwrt firmware and packages, but very few working on SlugOS or Debian arm for consumer devices.
May 28 00:44:04 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6083 10optware/trunk/ (make/slang.mk sources/slang/ sources/slang/uclibc.patch): slang: added and promoted
May 28 00:44:11 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6084 10optware/trunk/Makefile: slang: added and promoted
May 28 01:27:07 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6085 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/jed.mk): jed: added and promoted
May 28 01:44:53 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6086 10optware/trunk/ (Makefile make/most.mk): most: added and promoted
May 28 02:42:44 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6087 10optware/trunk/make/slang.mk: slang: staged and suggest pcre & libpng
May 28 02:51:25 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6088 10optware/trunk/make/slang.mk: slang: no-builtin-math on ts101
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