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Sep 11 06:21:21 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6832 10optware/trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): experimental iphone target
Sep 11 12:29:01 <likewise> hi all, is there any ixp4xx/openocd expertise around? I would like to access my CFI flash on a IXP4xx/BE w/ 16 -bit flash
Sep 11 12:29:35 <micha_mosk> hello, I am following the instructions on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/AddAPackageToOptware to setup a cross-compiling environment, but the instructions seem to work only for unslung and not slugos/be
Sep 11 12:29:40 <micha_mosk> can someone help me ?
Sep 11 12:43:47 <micha_mosk> more precisely, in the default configuration, running "make somepackage" builds the entire toolchain, but after setting OPTWARE_TARGET ?= slugosbe in the Makefile, running "make somepackage" only tries to build the package but not the toolchain
Sep 11 12:43:54 <micha_mosk> how can I build the toolchain ?
Sep 11 12:54:46 <rwhitby> micha_mosk: for slugosbe, it expects that the toolchain has already been built using the nslu2-linux Master Makefile
Sep 11 12:55:03 <rwhitby> (and exists in a sibling slugosbe openembedded build directory tree)
Sep 11 12:56:11 <micha_mosk> rwhitby: oh, ok. But on the wikipage about the Master Makefile it is written "The Master Makefile is for developing and building the latest and greatest HEAD! These instructions do not apply if all you want to do is build packages. Here are instructions for building Optware packages"
Sep 11 12:56:22 <micha_mosk> I guess it is wrong then
Sep 11 12:56:59 <rwhitby> yep, it's right for most of the optware targets, but not right for the slugosbe target (which was only recently added compared to all the other targets).  Feel free to clarify on that page.
Sep 11 12:57:21 <micha_mosk> ok, thank you
Sep 11 13:02:35 <micha_mosk> rwhitby: but I imagine if I only want to build packages, I don't have to checkout HEAD but a stable revision
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Sep 11 16:17:00 <toboz> hello everybody !
Sep 11 18:01:27 <leesiulung> hi everyone.... I'm looking for a similar device to nslu2, but with more processing power and low power requirement. Intended use is hosting of subversion and php/mysql-website for a small number of users. Any recommendation?
Sep 11 18:05:30 <leesiulung> if any1 have any suggestions, I would very much appreciate that.
Sep 11 18:19:45 <ch4os_> leesiulung maybe epia?
Sep 11 18:19:55 <ch4os_> but isn't so cheap
Sep 11 18:20:35 <leesiulung> yeah, I think they run $300-400 probably if not more.... negates the savings 
Sep 11 18:21:07 <leesiulung> I'm looking for a device around $100-200, low powered... maybe I should just get additional nslu2's?
Sep 11 18:21:30 <ch4os_> u can buy two or three nslu2 devices;)
Sep 11 18:22:29 <leesiulung> I currently have two nslu2's running at 133MHz. I wonder if doubling the processing speed will make a difference?
Sep 11 18:23:39 <ch4os_> it's make big difference;)
Sep 11 18:25:42 <leesiulung> Dan-it. I just bought my second one too around 2 months ago.... I didn't open it until last weekend. I hate to do the de-underclock myself.
Sep 11 18:26:52 <leesiulung> Do you think one nslu2 (266MHz) with apache/php/mysql + subversion would run for maximum 12 concurrent user without decent response time?
Sep 11 18:27:38 <ch4os_> uhm.. apache?
Sep 11 18:27:53 <ch4os_> lighttpd is better
Sep 11 18:28:04 <leesiulung> I think I need apache for subversion
Sep 11 18:29:01 <ch4os_> hmm so, apache + php + subversion on 1st slug and mysql on 2nd..
Sep 11 18:29:05 <ch4os_> and it should work
Sep 11 18:30:51 <leesiulung> I'm just suprised that they don't have anything with 2-4 the amount of RAM and twice the processing speed of a slug... should be able to make a decent profit at MSSRP of less than $200
Sep 11 18:32:04 <ch4os_> there is one device... someone mentioned it here, but i can't remember webpage...
Sep 11 18:34:30 <ch4os_> it was x86 device..,nice metal box, usb, 2xeth, no vga-out with linux preinstaled, but cheaper than epia
Sep 11 18:34:59 <leesiulung> sounds perfect if the power requirement is low
Sep 11 18:35:30 <ch4os_> ~30W
Sep 11 18:36:40 <leesiulung> When I tested the nslu2 I think I got like 7W... 
Sep 11 18:36:57 <leesiulung> I guess that is why the nslu2 is so popular
Sep 11 18:40:04 <leesiulung> ohhh.... I forgot I need to run openssl on that box too....
Sep 11 18:41:07 <ch4os_> i can't find it:/
Sep 11 18:43:49 <leesiulung> Yeah, I have been searching and found other NAS devices like the Mirra from Seagate...
Sep 11 18:44:28 <leesiulung> but nothing that would work so far....
Sep 11 18:45:41 <ch4os_> http://www.digitallogic.com/index.php?id=25&L=1
Sep 11 18:46:03 <ch4os_> specially look at MPC2x ;)
Sep 11 18:46:46 <ch4os_> it's isn't exactly what i was looking for
Sep 11 18:49:35 <leesiulung> check this out: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS8932620558.html
Sep 11 18:51:10 <leesiulung> that thing the linksys nas200 is slower than the nslu2... duh...
Sep 11 18:51:31 <ch4os_> hmmm
Sep 11 18:51:35 <ch4os_> risc processor...
Sep 11 18:51:43 <ch4os_> too bad
Sep 11 18:53:06 <leesiulung> that MPC2x, seems like it runs a wierd processor I never heard of... 
Sep 11 18:53:46 <ch4os_> it's AMD processor ;)
Sep 11 18:53:52 <leesiulung> does that mean I have to compile PHP, Apache, Subversion and MySQL to work on it?
Sep 11 18:53:56 <leesiulung> ohhh.....
Sep 11 18:53:58 <ch4os_> geode
Sep 11 18:54:03 <ch4os_> old good x86 ;)
Sep 11 18:54:25 <leesiulung> thank god... I was like... I can barely configure these things and it takes forever. Forget compiling from source.
Sep 11 18:55:02 <leesiulung> So basically it can run any linux distribution compatible with x86
Sep 11 18:55:35 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6833 10optware/trunk/make/slang.mk: slang: 2.1.1 -> 2.1.2
Sep 11 19:00:52 <CIA-8> 03bzhou * r6834 10optware/trunk/make/py-flup.mk: py-flup: 0.5+r2311 -> 1.0
Sep 11 20:45:00 <Reedy_Boy> does anyone know whoes got the copyrights to the images in the nslu2 gallery/who took some of the pics?
Sep 11 22:04:41 <rwhitby> Reedy_Boy: which pictures in particular?  Most would be copyright by someone on the nslu2-linux core team (myself, dyoung, ka6sox, NAiL)
Sep 11 22:05:27 <Reedy_Boy> rwhitby, im just after a decent quality motherboard picture that someone has the rights to, who will upload to wikimedia commons under a GPL type license
Sep 11 22:05:43 <Reedy_Boy> So it wont get deleted under fair use
Sep 11 22:07:26 <Reedy_Boy> rwhitby, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/nslu2_pcbs/NSLU2_board_front
Sep 11 22:07:29 <Reedy_Boy> Would be perfect
Sep 11 22:07:35 <rwhitby> leesiulung: re nas200 - I doubt you will find "any linux distribution" which runs in 32MB of ram.
Sep 11 22:09:52 <rwhitby> Reedy_Boy: I'll see if we can remember who took that photo - I doubt that anyone on the core team will have a problem, so if we can't remember who it was we will all just jointly declare the copyright so you can do it.
Sep 11 22:10:19 <Reedy_Boy> Brilliant, i didnt think anyone would, it was more just getting the permission :)
Sep 11 22:11:20 <rwhitby> get back to me in 24 hours to see if I have a response
Sep 11 22:11:43 <Reedy_Boy> Thanks :)
Sep 11 22:12:05 <Reedy_Boy> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/nslu2_pcbs/NSLU2_board_front_hires would be fine also - Something that can enlarge to a decent resolution so people can view it in detail if needs be
Sep 11 22:13:20 <rwhitby> hmm - I have a feeling it was g2 who took all those photos, due to the bare ones (he's the only one with a bare pcb)
Sep 11 22:14:25 <rwhitby> so those ones are definitely ok to redistribute freely.
Sep 11 22:14:42 <rwhitby> (anything on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/nslu2_pcbs)
Sep 11 22:14:49 <Reedy_Boy> Ah
Sep 11 22:15:18 <Reedy_Boy> It'd be useful if it was somewhere regarding the copyright if the commons licensing nazi's decide to be arkward
Sep 11 22:16:12 <rwhitby> can you give me a short text that I can use to do that?  I'll put it on the site.
Sep 11 22:16:40 <rwhitby> e.g. "All images on this site are licensed ...."
Sep 11 22:16:49 <rwhitby> what should the "..." be?
Sep 11 22:19:51 <rwhitby> Reedy_Boy: ?
Sep 11 22:19:55 <Reedy_Boy> Sorry
Sep 11 22:19:58 <Reedy_Boy> Was just checking
Sep 11 22:19:59 <Reedy_Boy> "I, XXX, author of the photos foobar.jpg, hereby aggre to licence it under the CC-by-sa licence"#
Sep 11 22:20:23 <Reedy_Boy> Or something to that affect would be great
Sep 11 22:21:15 <Reedy_Boy> Its just to link back for the source rwhitby 
Sep 11 22:21:28 <Reedy_Boy> "I, XXX, author of the photos foobar.jpg, hereby agree to licence it under the CC-by-sa licence"
Sep 11 22:23:33 <Reedy_Boy> "I, XXX, author of the photos foobar.jpg, hereby to licence it under the CC-by-sa licence"
Sep 11 22:23:51 <Reedy_Boy> "I, XXX, author of the photos foobar.jpg, hereby licence it under the CC-by-sa licence"
Sep 11 22:23:54 <Reedy_Boy> Thats better
Sep 11 22:24:19 <rwhitby> look on the site now
Sep 11 22:24:49 <Reedy_Boy> Perfect rwhitby :)
Sep 11 22:25:00 <Reedy_Boy> I'll sort out an image to upload to the WM commons tommorow
Sep 11 22:25:33 <Reedy_Boy> Thanks, im going to go now
Sep 11 22:25:42 <Reedy_Boy> Have a good day/evening!
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