**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 24 02:59:57 2007 Dec 24 03:49:21 does anyone know how I can modify the startup script to automatically mount the filesystem on the thumb drive?? Adding it to custom-user-startup did not work Dec 24 04:08:25 WeeJay: best place to ask openwrt questions is in #openwrt Dec 24 04:08:44 oh then why is this channel listed in the wiki? :-P Dec 24 04:08:56 (as very few people in here will be running it, and it's very different from Unslung or SlugOS) Dec 24 04:09:06 Oh, I need to change that now that it's a fully supported target for Kamikaze. Dec 24 04:09:09 which page? Dec 24 04:09:37 to give you an idea, we've had 50000 Unslung, 16000 SlugOS, and only 2000 OpenWrt downloads. Dec 24 04:09:52 which one is most recommended? Dec 24 04:10:08 depends what you want to do - they all serve different purposes. Dec 24 04:10:24 They are all recommended, for different user applications Dec 24 04:10:43 I dont' care much for the web interface...i want to run something that is as close to a traditional linux system Dec 24 04:11:20 I want to be able to ssh in, run bind, squid, radius and syslog. Dec 24 04:11:46 at the same time I don't want to brick my unit :-) Dec 24 04:12:10 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenWrt/HomePage <-- got the IRC channel info Dec 24 04:12:23 Do you want to run everything from internal flash, or have a flash disk or hard disk always attached? Dec 24 04:12:42 I can get both. Currently I only have a gig flash disk. Dec 24 04:12:54 I wanted to see how it all worked out before I invested more heavily Dec 24 04:13:34 so far I have gotten bind working good...except for the fact that I can't get the thumb drive to automatically mount via the user startup script. So it does me no good Dec 24 04:14:19 ok, wiki page fixed Dec 24 04:15:08 unless you're really keen on wireless or routing stuff, or you really need to run from internal flash only, I would recommend slugos. Dec 24 04:15:47 WeeJay: have you seen http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/FirmwareMatrix ? Dec 24 04:16:08 nope..never saw that link...loooking at it. Dec 24 04:17:31 it's a bit out of date, but gives a good idea Dec 24 04:17:36 that is very useful matrix. sorry I did not see this earlier. I could have saved one full days of work :-\ Dec 24 04:17:50 feel free to link it into the wiki where you would have seen it. Dec 24 04:18:40 rwhitby: I am liking this experience so far (my first embedded project) and I will be sure to contribute back once I have got everything the way I want it Dec 24 04:18:41 I personally run SlugOS, Debian and OpenWrt on my boxes, as well as Optware packages on another box which still has vendor firmware. Dec 24 04:19:16 (nslu2, nas100d, fsg3, datatank respectively) Dec 24 04:20:29 I have a beast of a machine doing much of the stuff I want to do (dns, freeradius, samba, ssh, root CA etc.)...i would like to ONLY use this nslu2 unit. Since you recommend SlugOS, ill give that a shot Dec 24 04:24:42 WeeJay: Check out Optware packages for SlugOS/BE too. Dec 24 04:25:06 im not seeing much diff between SlugOSBE and SlugOS/LE (in matrix) Dec 24 04:25:29 Currently im using optware pakages on openwrt to install bind. Dec 24 04:36:47 rwhitby: I think I might give the gentooSlugOS a try. I am very familiar with Gentooo.... also it seems to be as close to a regular linux system as I wanted. Dec 24 04:37:22 there is no difference between SlugOS/LE and SlugOS/BE apart from the endianness. Dec 24 04:37:30 some drivers only work BE or LE due to poor coding. Dec 24 04:37:56 Be aware that GentooSlug is not supported by the project - there are only one or two people that I know who are running it. Dec 24 04:38:22 oh Dec 24 04:38:30 :-\ yeah that would be a problem Dec 24 04:46:14 rwhitby: any preference as far as LE or BE. From what I read, the chipset can do both. Dec 24 04:46:36 chipset can do both. unless you have a reason to run LE, then run BE. Dec 24 04:46:45 Thanks. Dec 24 04:48:00 it seems this has been sitting in beta stage since june. Is the final version going to be release soon? Dec 24 04:48:09 yes, it's in final alpha testing right now Dec 24 04:48:36 SlugOS 3.x is stable, SlugOS 4.x is about to be released. Dec 24 04:48:59 we also wait for a number of people to build the release from source and report success before we issue a beta binary Dec 24 04:49:12 oh. in that case should I wait or just go forward with 3? I don't think ill be coming across a 4 day weekend anytime soon :-\ Dec 24 04:49:34 I can provide you with a 4.7 image for testing. Dec 24 04:49:54 Im game. Might as well help you test it. Dec 24 04:50:13 In fact, if you wait an hour I'm just about to build a release candidate. Dec 24 04:50:19 (4.8) Dec 24 04:50:30 :-D I can wait. Ill back up my bind stuff in the mean time Dec 24 04:50:57 is there a svn tree I can check out to read up on changes? Dec 24 04:51:05 monotone database Dec 24 04:51:12 Look in the wiki for MasterMakefile Dec 24 04:51:34 you can build a release candidate image yourself if you've got a linux box, 10GB of disk, and some time ... Dec 24 04:51:59 got all that. Dec 24 04:52:22 what host OS are you running? Dec 24 04:52:50 I have access to gentoo, centos 4.x, 5.x and ubuntu Dec 24 04:53:17 build it on the ubuntu box. Dec 24 04:53:26 mkdir /home/slug (or somewhere else) Dec 24 04:53:30 cd /home/slug Dec 24 04:53:39 wget http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile Dec 24 04:53:47 make setup-host-ubuntu ; make slugosbe Dec 24 04:54:12 (then watch your disk and network connection be busy for a significant number of hours) Dec 24 04:56:03 can I customize the image with packages I will be interested in the base install? and remove some sutff like dnsmasq? Dec 24 04:56:25 sure, but it's just as easy to do it after the first boot Dec 24 04:56:56 (you "turnup" to disk, and make serious changes there, knowing that if you stuff anything up you can just unplug the disk and reboot to the initial known-good rootfs in flash) Dec 24 04:57:15 ah! Dec 24 04:57:35 similar to the idea of ipkg-opt...where everything was getting installed into /opt Dec 24 05:11:27 sorry lappy crashed. Dec 24 05:14:11 WeeJa1: you should run bip or dircproxy on the nslu2 too ... Dec 24 05:14:30 not familiar with either. what do they do? Dec 24 05:14:45 irc proxy - no-one sees that your laptop crashes Dec 24 05:23:59 http://pastebin.com/d48ce5b66 Dec 24 05:24:05 did work for me.. Dec 24 05:24:15 ill just wait for you to get done and use it Dec 24 05:24:23 s/did/didn't Dec 24 05:24:42 WeeJa1: what version of mtn are you running? Dec 24 05:25:07 I have never used monotone before. Dec 24 05:25:21 mtn --version Dec 24 05:25:28 monotone 0.35 (base revision: f92dd754bf5c1e6eddc9c462b8d68691cfeb7f8b) Dec 24 05:25:55 Get the appropriate OE.mtn.bz2 file from http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ and unzip it to monotone/nslu2-linux.mtn Dec 24 05:30:22 WeeJa1: working now? Dec 24 05:35:39 negative. I have the following in /home/user/Desktop/slug/monotone Dec 24 05:35:45 nslu2-linux.mtn OE-this-is-for-mtn-0.35.mtn Dec 24 05:37:18 rename the latter to overwrite the former Dec 24 05:37:35 (i.e. OE.. becomes the new contents of nslu2...) Dec 24 05:38:15 yeah its compiling now Dec 24 05:38:33 thanks. That was a bit of black magic for me..but im sure if I read up on monotone it might make sense Dec 24 05:38:38 let me know if setup-host-ubuntu doesn Dec 24 05:38:46 't have all the packages required Dec 24 05:38:54 will do. Dec 24 05:57:47 so far so good Dec 24 10:04:56 WeeJa1: still around? Dec 24 13:18:24 03rwhitby 07slugos-4.8-beta * r437 10slugos/ (17338 files in 4008 dirs): Import of SlugOS 4.8 release candidate Dec 24 13:46:25 03slug 07slugos-4.8-beta * r438 10slugos/bitbake/lib/bb/ (29 files in 4 dirs): Removed generated files Dec 24 13:47:57 03slug 07slugos-4.8-beta * r439 10slugos/ (LICENSE openembedded/conf/distro/include/slugos.inc): Added LICENSE Dec 24 13:50:10 03slug 07slugos-4.8-beta * r440 10slugos/Makefile: Removed superfluous targets Dec 24 13:50:57 03slug 07slugos-4.8-beta * r441 10slugos/conf/auto.conf: Added auto.conf Dec 24 13:57:01 03slug 07slugos-4.8-beta * r442 10slugos/Makefile: Added convenience targets Dec 24 14:15:13 03slug 07slugos-4.8-beta * r443 10slugos/conf/site.conf: Put the builds in separate directories, so we can separate the feeds Dec 24 14:15:54 ok, let's see the autobuilder chew on that overnight ... Dec 24 14:16:07 merry christmas all! Dec 24 14:21:08 rwhitby: Merry Christmas! Dec 24 17:26:48 rwhitby: you there? Dec 24 17:27:25 Fast Asleep no doubt. Dec 24 17:28:00 ka6sox-laptop: :-) yeah ...judging from his last message Dec 24 17:32:42 darn...i wish he would have mentioned to me that I had to download the microcode manually....i could have placed it in downloads and finished the build. Dec 24 17:32:50 now I have to start all over again :-\ Dec 24 17:34:50 what build are you doing? Dec 24 17:36:39 4.8... Dec 24 17:40:21 do you know if I should download the crypto or non-crypto version? Dec 24 17:44:29 are you planning on using the crypto features? Dec 24 18:00:21 well too late...i gave up on getting the cryptop version and went with non-crypto Dec 24 18:00:25 its compiling now Dec 24 18:00:37 I would have liked to have crypto Dec 24 18:08:38 I think the difference is the crypto modules for the kernel Dec 24 18:09:04 ah. I doubt ill need to cypt any fs. Dec 24 18:09:27 okay..then you should be good. Dec 24 18:09:50 yeah its compiling but the trick on the wiki about removing the ipx files to continue build from where it left of didn't work Dec 24 18:10:01 looks like its compiling the kernel now :-\ Dec 24 18:11:11 what wikipage are you using to build the image? Dec 24 18:12:51 damn I closed to browser to conserve resources .....:-D Dec 24 18:13:03 this lappy is getting taxed heavy Dec 24 18:13:54 anyone knows how to get in touch with flipflip or has ever seen him here ? Dec 24 18:14:31 WeeJa1, I know the feeling about having to get things down so you can build. Dec 24 18:16:56 well honestly I thought I had put my compiling days behind...i was a very heavy gentoo user....i had some very beefy machines..but then with school..work...wife...forget it. not more time. Dec 24 18:19:36 WeeJa1, I hear ya. Dec 24 18:19:52 we appreciate your building/testing this new release. Dec 24 18:21:12 wifes... who invented them :< Dec 24 18:21:36 deam, life would be much more boring without them. Dec 24 18:21:42 I second that Dec 24 18:27:07 anyone here knows about the checksum.syno file ? Dec 24 18:27:15 or do I really need flipflip for that Dec 24 18:29:21 deam: dunno Dec 24 18:29:57 http://oinkzwurgl.org/diskstation Dec 24 18:30:29 he describes the checksum.syno file here and that he still has some loose ends.. but it seems that in his recent patches he has solved this... so I wonder how he figured out those last 2 numbers (a,b) Dec 24 18:30:51 ah... Dec 24 18:31:37 is that part of optware or the base DS packages? Dec 24 18:32:35 not really I think only for flipflip's SSODS (Slim Server on DiskStation) but yet he has discussed it here several times (noticed that on IRC logs, google) Dec 24 18:35:28 I've hear of Slimserver Dec 24 18:35:43 for this you will need to talk to him directly Dec 24 18:35:51 we just provide the optware packages. Dec 24 18:36:15 thought so.. well could give it a try hehe Dec 24 18:37:43 http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/40600205.html Dec 24 18:37:47 that's pathetic :P Dec 24 18:38:33 yep...bbiaw Dec 24 18:42:15 -+ Dec 24 18:53:42 WeeJa1, how is it going? Dec 24 18:56:10 still going....compiling away :-) Dec 24 18:56:20 Good Dec 24 18:56:36 at least its still going. Dec 24 18:56:48 what you guys compiling ? Dec 24 18:56:59 4.8 Dec 24 18:57:00 beta Dec 24 19:08:52 of slugOS Dec 24 21:26:03 holly crap..this is still compiling. maybe I need to power on my dual proc downstairs.....its been going for over 3 hrs now Dec 24 21:28:53 what proc is in your lappy? Dec 24 21:43:51 its a 2.2 Ghz with 2 G ram Dec 24 21:50:00 We've picked up a boat-load of generally-unnecessary things to build from OE lately. EG, it builds its own version of "git", "expat", "flex", "bison", and many others. You can set "ASSUME_PROVIDED" in the local.conf file to have it skip the ones you know you safely can skip. Dec 24 21:55:28 cool Dec 24 21:59:32 git-native still fails to build. Dec 24 22:16:31 does that include gcc? Because I noticed that it was compiling gcc from scratch Dec 24 22:16:47 or does it need a special ARM compatible version of gcc? Dec 24 22:18:13 It needs a gcc cross-compiler (along with appropriate other parts of the toolchain). I've tried other versions of the cross-compiler, and it's generally best to let it build the compiler and toolchain. Dec 24 22:20:29 There is work underway in OE to create a packagable external toolchain; I think that at some time it might make sense to allow SlugOS builds to use that toolchain. That would significantly reduce build times. But that's a future... Dec 24 22:24:40 yeah, git-native fails here too **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 24 22:50:23 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 24 22:52:14 2007 Dec 24 22:57:22 I just noticed that it is building all the locales as well. That might be adding to the build time Dec 24 23:37:38 rwhitby: i *am* on vacation - when i can do things i like to do, or nothing at all :-) Dec 24 23:37:57 merry Christmas and happy new year every1! Dec 24 23:42:10 merry christmas eno Dec 24 23:46:56 will test slugos 4.8 when i'm back, lots of great work going on lately **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 25 02:59:56 2007