**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 21 02:59:56 2008 Jun 21 04:53:30 03bzhou * r8545 10optware/trunk/make/expat.mk: expat: rm staged libexpat.la Jun 21 04:54:00 03bzhou * r8546 10optware/trunk/make/neon.mk: neon: 0.24.7 -> 0.28.2 Jun 21 04:56:54 03bzhou * r8547 10optware/trunk/make/svn.mk: svn: 1.4.6 -> 1.5.0 Jun 21 05:19:12 03bzhou * r8548 10optware/trunk/make/vitetris.mk: vitetris: 0.40 -> 0.41 Jun 21 05:58:02 03bzhou * r8549 10optware/trunk/make/elinks.mk: elinks: 0.11.3 -> 0.11.4 Jun 21 06:14:38 03bzhou * r8550 10optware/trunk/make/neon.mk: neon: added expat-stage Jun 21 13:36:08 Hi. After successfully installing debian on my slug, it does not boot to the three beep stage... Where can I start looking for the problem? Jun 21 13:38:10 03bzhou * r8551 10optware/trunk/make/hdparm.mk: hdparm: 8.8 -> 8.9 Jun 21 13:50:33 03bzhou * r8552 10optware/trunk/make/pyrex.mk: pyrex: 0.9.5.1a -> 0.9.8.4 Jun 21 18:03:31 McGo: Have you done the serial port mod? Jun 21 18:04:00 Having a console on the slug makes debugging it much nicer. Jun 21 18:11:44 joshin, hmm...it's always the question what is broken Jun 21 18:12:18 I once flashed bad kernel/initramfs Jun 21 18:12:42 but to fix that one was easy...flash debian-installer, chroot, flash-good-kernel^^ Jun 21 18:34:45 my apcupsd.bb file for SlugOS/BE is done, are there wiki instructions on how to get it checked into the feeds? Jun 21 18:35:34 scant: great job, I could use that for sure :-) Are you using 2nd serial on NSLU2 or external USB-serial adapter? Jun 21 18:36:30 RobNC: i'm using a APC UPS 350 I think, it's USB Jun 21 18:36:39 no serial to USB conversions Jun 21 18:37:17 RobNC: apcupsd has been available via optware, but this is for openembedded Jun 21 18:40:50 scant: ok, gotcha, I only have serial UPS available (retired from old PC - 350VA) Jun 21 18:49:42 anyone gotten xfs support with slugos? Jun 21 19:04:43 joshin: Not yet. Have you got a link? Jun 21 19:18:23 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddASerialPort Jun 21 19:18:40 A serial port makes debugging so much easier. Jun 21 19:19:06 oh, ok... i think thats a job for tomorrow... ;-) Jun 21 19:21:16 Yup. Though if you do have 2 devices with TTL serial ports, you can wire tx on one to rx on the other and vice versa. Jun 21 19:23:15 Is there a cheap way to realise such setup? I've no terminal server at home.. Jun 21 19:23:20 yet Jun 21 19:25:43 You don't need a terminal server. Building the adapter is around $10. directly connecting 2 devices together (make sure that it is TTL to TTL) is about $0.10 of wire. Jun 21 20:35:10 the pain is not having a soldering iron or DB9 connectors, 0.1" headers, etc. Jun 21 20:36:19 Good point though a wirewrap tool works great. :) Jun 21 20:37:27 * joshin is attempting humor with the $0.10 comment. (The wirewrap tool does work if you have the right wire to use with it) Jun 21 20:41:00 heh true yeah $0.10 wire but have to use a $100 wire-wrap tool LOL Jun 21 20:46:07 main problem is in soldering the 0.1" header - may be challenging for most people. too bad Linksys decided to fill it with solder, which costs more and makes it harder to desolder or solder. Jun 21 20:51:15 This one looks promising for TTL to USB/RS232: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Serial_adapters Jun 21 20:54:16 http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=449 Jun 21 20:54:44 then use floppy power connector http://erroraccessdenied.com/node/608 Jun 21 20:59:21 mwester - I remembered asking you a question regarding "hacking" the slugos build - if I wanted to modify something in the image. That worked, it seems. I've updated the wiki I made for that. Jun 21 21:00:44 Now I see that xfs is not set to compile in the kernel config. If I edit slugos/tmp/staging/nslu2be-linux/kernel/config-2.6.24.7 and make the XFS_FS a module, what's the cleanest way to recompile the kernel? Jun 21 21:01:41 (I should say I want to "make slugosbe" again) - is it a matter of removing the appropriate linux*do_compile file and restarting the build? Jun 21 21:58:58 anyone in here know why XFS module support was turned off for slugos builds? Jun 21 21:59:33 My reason for using it is that it has higher throughput and efficiency as compared to EXT3. Jun 21 22:08:32 in the NSLU2, I mean efficiency in regards to CPU overhead, seems lower for XFS Jun 21 22:09:48 if XFS is used would that result in higher IO to usb hdds? Jun 21 22:10:36 don't know; someone once suggested XFS has higher throughput and I can confirm that it does indeed seem to be the case. Jun 21 22:12:07 slugosbe doesn't support XFS? Jun 21 22:12:27 the module is not compiled as confirmed from linux config Jun 21 22:15:13 will have to ask svn guys regarding that - it could have been that it is currently broken, I can't tell. Jun 21 23:59:00 03bzhou * r8553 10optware/trunk/make/mpd.mk: mpd: 0.13.1 -> 0.13.2 Jun 22 00:16:49 scant: mpd 0.13.2 does not need the autoreconf step, you can just do configure Jun 22 00:21:02 eno: thx Jun 22 00:24:33 how do i just do configure? Jun 22 00:34:18 scant: you better ask in #oe Jun 22 00:34:50 your bb file does not mention autoreconf at all Jun 22 00:35:23 why do you think it's running autoreconf? Jun 22 00:35:27 or you need to read autotools.bbclass to understand when autoreconf is triggered Jun 22 00:35:38 based on your log Jun 22 00:35:45 clever Jun 22 00:41:40 scant: you might be able to bypass autoreconf, by invoking oe_runconf directly in do_configure Jun 22 00:42:58 autoreconf runs if, i think if both configure.in and configure.ac exist, at least i think what this line means: if [ -e ${S}/configure.in -o -e ${S}/configure.ac ]; then Jun 22 00:43:32 either configure.in or configure.ac exists Jun 22 00:44:07 so should i just delete configure.ac? Jun 22 00:44:26 by default do_configure will do (1) autoreconf if ... (2) configure Jun 22 00:44:46 i'd think invoking directly oe_runconf is cleaner Jun 22 00:45:14 so add a do_configure, and inside put a oe_runconf there Jun 22 00:45:27 ya, hm Jun 22 00:46:00 eno==bzhou Jun 22 00:46:23 http://oe.linuxtogo.org/user-manual&dpage=chapter_reference#id2595918 Jun 22 00:46:36 yeah Jun 22 00:47:52 do you use slugos? Jun 22 00:48:26 i use slugos, but do not develop using oe that much Jun 22 00:48:39 why do you like optware more than oe? Jun 22 00:48:40 optware keeps busy Jun 22 00:49:00 it's different style Jun 22 00:49:17 oe is more automatic, and use sensible defaults Jun 22 00:49:27 optware is more explicit Jun 22 00:49:57 with oe, you need to know how to override to do advanced things Jun 22 00:50:44 what i don't agree with, is the idea that makefile does not scale, that we need a new framework Jun 22 00:51:12 i don't think oe bb scales any better than makefile based frameworks Jun 22 00:51:17 scale? or portable? Jun 22 00:51:52 scale, in terms of the number of packages that the framework support before it slows down Jun 22 00:52:22 eno: it's configuring now, now i have to get the configure options correct, i'll try to get ogg and mod and mpc working also Jun 22 00:52:27 eno: do you use mpd? Jun 22 00:52:40 i don't Jun 22 00:53:03 it requires a USB sound card, right? Jun 22 00:53:13 i *think* ogg and mpd don't work anymore, and i'm trying to figure out why Jun 22 00:53:21 eno: yeah Jun 22 01:03:14 bbl **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 22 02:59:57 2008