**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 15 02:59:57 2010 Jun 15 19:00:43 03robham * r11688 10optware/trunk/make/alac-decoder.mk: alac-decoder: phony targets added to mk file Jun 15 22:03:18 03robham * r11689 10optware/trunk/make/ncursesw.mk: ncursesw: ncursesw-dev target added to mk file Jun 15 22:29:25 03robham * r11690 10optware/trunk/make/parted.mk: parted: control file added to mk file, mk file updated with check target, problems with check errors fixed Jun 15 22:39:39 03robham * r11691 10optware/trunk/make/alsa-lib.mk: alsa-lib: --disable-static added to mk file Jun 15 22:48:43 03robham * r11692 10optware/trunk/make/alsa-utils.mk: alsa-utils: --disable-static added to mk file Jun 16 01:11:41 i'm running debian arm (armv5tel) on my nslu2. apparently, this port is deprecated in the next debian release in favor of the new arm port. i'm considering two options: 1) migrate my debian install to the new armel port (how do i do that?). 2) switch to openwrt (how stable is it on nslu2?) Jun 16 01:13:28 tuv, I've run openwrt on my slug and didn't have any problems with it. I switched to SlugOS and liked it better. Jun 16 01:14:03 I also ran debian on the slug (Big Endian) for quite a while and that worked well too. Jun 16 01:14:31 ka6sox-work: any particular problems with openwrt? my nslu2 is struggling with debian. constantly swapping. openwrt is supposed more embedded-friendly with lower memory footprint Jun 16 01:14:34 tuv, I don't know whether there is ixp400 ethernet support in the next release of debian. Jun 16 01:15:00 tuv, openwrt is designed for 8-32MB machines. Jun 16 01:15:12 according to this page, it is still supported: http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ Jun 16 01:15:54 ka6sox-work: then openwrt should be faster on the nslu2, shouldn't it? Jun 16 01:16:16 if he has the kernel support for the slug then it would continue to work. Jun 16 01:16:59 ka6sox-work: did you notice any performance difference between openwrt and debian? Jun 16 01:17:14 tuv, well...my use wasn't typical. Jun 16 01:17:33 I was *building* all of debian ARMEB with the slugs. Jun 16 01:17:57 did that ever finish? Jun 16 01:18:45 it was an overwhelming task. Jun 16 01:19:05 32MB isn't enough to build things on...and debian was forcing us to build things that would NEVER work on a Slug. Jun 16 01:19:16 i guess i'll give openwrt a shot. i run it on my router. i hope it's more stable on the nslu2 given it's an old machine Jun 16 01:19:56 what did you dislike about openwrt? Jun 16 01:20:21 dnsmasq Jun 16 01:21:02 what's wrong with dnsmasq? or you just didn't want it altogether? Jun 16 01:21:17 don't need it Jun 16 01:21:25 disable it Jun 16 01:21:26 not using it as a router Jun 16 01:21:37 I like SlugOS Jun 16 01:21:55 I had 3 slugs in one location running it for 3yrs....they were very busy slugs. Jun 16 01:23:04 which slugOs is that? the nslu2-linux wiki lists a few Jun 16 01:23:26 I ran SlugOS-LE Jun 16 01:24:30 one slug did oww, another slug ran a custom py-serial thing that opened up the roof and did the pointing and the 3rd one took the pictures and shipped them to the server. Jun 16 01:27:46 * mwester has a slug that uses OWFS to monitor temps and a boiler at a remote location; worked all winter long without a reboot or failure. Jun 16 01:28:44 mwester, those 3 slugs only rebooted 1X in 3yrs... Jun 16 01:29:15 I like the OWW stuff. Jun 16 01:29:22 or rather 1W Jun 16 01:29:28 I was skeptical, but it really works nicely. Jun 16 01:30:13 SlugOS has been the most stable and usable for me. Jun 16 01:31:25 And cheap -- the USB adaptor isn't too expensive ($35?), but the temp sensors were a dollar or two each, and I just soldered them onto some 24g twisted pair. For that price I didn't even worry too much about weatherproofing; replacing is chaeper than potting the sensor! Jun 16 01:32:21 I'll bet! Jun 16 01:32:36 hehe - it's still running (I just checked). 62.8 degrees in the crawlspace where the pipes run... Jun 16 01:33:30 I just never shut it down in the spring when I shut down the boiler. :) Jun 16 01:33:31 right now its 68 deg, 8 knots @ 135deg. Jun 16 01:33:49 and 25% RH. Jun 16 01:33:54 what weather gear? Davis? Jun 16 01:40:26 * tuv tries openwrt next Jun 16 01:41:37 mwester, no, something from AAG Jun 16 01:41:52 and I got the RH sensor from someplace else. Jun 16 01:42:06 I had to make a custom Cloud Detector...that was fun. Jun 16 01:45:51 * mwester thinks tuv makes a mistake, but mwester is biased. Jun 16 01:46:58 I think that openwrt is too limited after coming from debian....but then i'm biased too! Jun 16 02:17:51 ka6sox-work, mwester: what else do you recommend then? SlugOS/BE? i made sure the programs i *need* are available in openwrt, but i'm open to suggestions Jun 16 02:18:42 the attraction to openwrt for me is the small memory footprint. i don't dare to run aptitude anymore on the nslu2 Jun 16 02:18:46 SlugOS BE/LE....depending on how much you need libusb to work. Jun 16 02:19:02 which has better support? Jun 16 02:19:04 ipkg update. Jun 16 02:19:09 * tuv uses apcupsd on usb Jun 16 02:19:12 LE for lubusb Jun 16 02:19:16 er libusb Jun 16 02:19:30 printing? Jun 16 02:19:32 how is that different from debian? Jun 16 02:19:47 no, not printing. APC UPS monitoring Jun 16 02:19:50 designed from the ground up to run on a slug. Jun 16 02:20:39 I use both SlugOS and Optware apps. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 16 02:59:56 2010