**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 07 02:59:59 2013
Jan 07 07:37:27 <itu>  hi
Jan 07 07:58:20 <ka6sox> evening
Jan 07 07:59:42 <itu> morning here
Jan 07 08:01:45 <ka6sox> the official answer should be:
Jan 07 08:01:47 <ka6sox> ~ugt
Jan 07 08:01:49 <infobot> it has been said that ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
Jan 07 08:03:51 <ka6sox> (at least thats what I was taught about 6yrs ago when I started this project)
Jan 07 08:04:39 <ka6sox> s/started/started with/
Jan 07 08:04:40 <infobot> ka6sox meant: (at least thats what I was taught about 6yrs ago when I started with this project)
Jan 07 08:05:22 <ka6sox> whats happening?
Jan 07 08:13:03 * itu try to put a linux in a NSLU2
Jan 07 08:13:34 <ka6sox> ah, what would you like to do with it?
Jan 07 08:13:56 <itu> at the moment HardDisk_WP  helps me fighting against the debian installer
Jan 07 08:14:36 <HardDisk_WP> trying to convince the installer for debian 5 that debian stable is not debian 6 -.-
Jan 07 08:14:47 <itu> nothing special to do , no webserver
Jan 07 08:14:58 <HardDisk_WP> whoever created that debian installer set it to install "stable", not "lenny" -.-
Jan 07 08:17:38 <HardDisk_WP> so, now I'm setting up a debian 5 mirror on my server...
Jan 07 08:19:55 <ka6sox> what guide are you following?
Jan 07 08:22:00 <itu> we started with that  http://rechenkarussell.blogspot.de/2010/02/nslu2-mit-debian-lenny.html
Jan 07 08:22:42 <HardDisk_WP> problem is, there's no debian6 nslu installer, at least there's none mentioned on the wiki
Jan 07 08:22:45 <ka6sox> not one I'm familiar with
Jan 07 08:22:56 <ka6sox> which wiki?
Jan 07 08:25:43 <ka6sox> (sorry for the questions but just trying to make sure I'm following along)
Jan 07 08:26:16 <HardDisk_WP> http://www.slug-firmware.net/d-dls.php and http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/
Jan 07 08:26:27 <HardDisk_WP> both saying that there's no debian 6 installer
Jan 07 08:27:20 <ka6sox> true
Jan 07 08:27:27 <ka6sox> one wasn't made
Jan 07 08:27:46 <ka6sox> (at least I didn't see one from tbm for that)
Jan 07 08:31:44 <itu> tbm=?
Jan 07 08:33:52 <HardDisk_WP> so, now created a fake apt mirror with a symlink from stable to lenny, maybe that works.
Jan 07 08:34:04 <HardDisk_WP> if it does, I'll make the server public so others can use it
Jan 07 08:37:52 <HardDisk_WP> Crap, Debian files are all signed -.-
Jan 07 08:39:09 <HardDisk_WP> Release file says Suite: oldstable
Jan 07 08:47:18 <ka6sox> you probably will have to mod the installer to use "oldstable" :(
Jan 07 08:51:05 <HardDisk_WP> or try to make it use a faked signature.
Jan 07 08:56:12 <ka6sox> you can tell the installer to ignore the sigs iirc(but you will have to hack it)
Jan 07 08:57:35 <HardDisk_WP> and for that I'd have to hack the firmware file
Jan 07 08:57:58 <ka6sox> ewwww...been a long time since I installedit
Jan 07 08:58:06 <ka6sox> mostly I worked with SlugOS
Jan 07 08:58:32 <ka6sox> tried to build BE arm debian...that was a disaster with the restrictions.
Jan 07 08:58:48 <HardDisk_WP> crosscompiling sucks huge
Jan 07 08:59:49 <ka6sox> trying to build libboost on a 32MB NATIVE machine sucks worse.
Jan 07 09:01:13 <HardDisk_WP> you did NOT try to use the NSLU2 as a buildserver?!
Jan 07 09:02:41 <ka6sox> we did
Jan 07 09:02:48 <ka6sox> it SUCKED
Jan 07 09:03:02 <ka6sox> debian didn't believe in cross-compiling...native only
Jan 07 09:03:08 <ka6sox> so it was a failure
Jan 07 09:03:20 <HardDisk_WP> fuck, just about how much of no-money did you have so that you were forced to use a NSLU2 as buildd? :D
Jan 07 09:03:36 <ka6sox> (plus wanna-build was a sucky piece of unmaintained stuffa)
Jan 07 09:03:53 <HardDisk_WP> actually the debian buildd DOES support crosscompiling, but at my old company it took the guy two weeks to get the fucker running
Jan 07 09:03:55 <ka6sox> it was that or a $3000 board.
Jan 07 09:04:12 <HardDisk_WP> Ouch, okay that's quite something:D
Jan 07 09:04:36 <ka6sox> buildd does support it NOW...but Debian had a POLICY of native building at the time.
Jan 07 09:04:42 <ka6sox> which is why PPC was dropped
Jan 07 09:04:49 <ka6sox> couldnt' keep up
Jan 07 09:05:05 <HardDisk_WP> lol I can imagine, but how on earth did debian build the bigger packages?
Jan 07 09:05:08 <ka6sox> (and 68k too...
Jan 07 09:05:17 <HardDisk_WP> The build process alone must have taken a year :D
Jan 07 09:05:18 <ka6sox> Swap like HELL.
Jan 07 09:05:51 <ka6sox> I dreaded cc1plus
Jan 07 09:06:04 <ka6sox> and linking that crud was AWFUL....
Jan 07 09:29:19 <HardDisk_WP> ka6sox, if anyone ever runs into that problem again - he/she should use custom apt server snapshot.debian.org and directory /archive/debian/20110201T033133Z/ 
Jan 07 09:29:58 <ka6sox> HardDisk_WP, good to know
Jan 07 09:30:31 <HardDisk_WP> It's quite a fast server o_O
Jan 07 09:30:46 <HardDisk_WP> I'm mirroring it too, 18GB just for main on armel
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