**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 07 23:59:56 2005 Aug 08 00:38:35 morning all Aug 08 00:38:53 morning RP Aug 08 00:42:24 do13: You'll see I've updated to 2.6.12-rc5-mm1 - all appears to be ok with it other than those pagefault patches... Aug 08 00:43:25 morning Aug 08 00:45:14 morning XorA Aug 08 00:45:55 RP: kernel doing well then? Aug 08 00:46:24 XorA: Yes, as far as I know, 2.6.13-rc5-mm1 is looking good Aug 08 00:46:40 usbnet and irda remain untested but everything else should work Aug 08 00:47:13 RP: Ill see if I can test it this week Aug 08 00:47:43 I've also just committed some corgi sound updates - continue to improve the state of that code and completes the wm8731 i2c driver - just need to sort out the dma code now... Aug 08 00:48:10 RP: sounds good Aug 08 00:48:28 RP: I was playing with g-file-storage on 2.6.11 it is most impressive Aug 08 00:48:29 What was a 120kb patch is now 86k :) Aug 08 00:48:56 RP: I hope I can update my patches today. Aug 08 00:49:09 RP: returning sound to full working ness would make C7x0 devices back to awseome DivX machines Aug 08 00:49:29 XorA: What's wrong with it? Aug 08 00:50:10 do13: Ok, sounds good :) **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 08 00:57:19 2005 Aug 08 00:59:33 RP: try mp3blaster with any mp3 and hear the problem, I suspect dma does not work correctly since you fixed the multiple open problem, I know mplayer performance dropped since that change Aug 08 01:00:09 XorA: I have maplayer playing mp3s fine here... Aug 08 01:01:00 madplay even... Aug 08 01:02:10 RP: I noticed the difference in mp3blaster, before you made that fix ti would play mp3, after it will not Aug 08 01:02:57 XorA: mp3blaster reports "Illegal Instruction" here :-/ Aug 08 01:03:24 RP: thats a new one :-) Aug 08 01:03:58 good morning all Aug 08 01:04:09 XorA: madplay works though Aug 08 01:04:12 morning koen Aug 08 01:04:16 morning koen Aug 08 01:04:20 hey RP & XorA **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 08 01:05:35 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 08 01:28:04 2005 Aug 08 01:37:29 XorA: I have been having problems with the mixer though - can't find an application that will control it properly... Aug 08 01:37:46 alsamixer? Aug 08 01:38:08 RP_: madplay has very simple playing code, mp3blaster uses GET_OSPACE ioctls Aug 08 01:38:54 XorA: The corgi code doesn't implement much in the way of ioctrls. It never has done though... Aug 08 01:39:20 RP_: probably worked by fluke then :-) Aug 08 01:39:31 koen: Corgi still uses oss... Aug 08 01:39:37 RP_: I know Aug 08 01:39:46 hint... hint.... Aug 08 01:39:55 ;) Aug 08 01:40:04 koen: That's my eventual aim ;-) Aug 08 01:40:33 pushing a working alsa driver on ARM is a good way to piss of RMK too Aug 08 01:40:58 Why? He seems keen to do the ucb1x00 himself... Aug 08 01:41:27 he's been saying that alsa is nonworking on ARM for past years Aug 08 01:41:41 cause it is the rmk way Aug 08 01:41:45 while I was happily aplaying mp3s on my h2210 Aug 08 01:41:47 koen: That's all fixed as far as I know Aug 08 01:42:23 RP_: in my eyes it never was a problem Aug 08 01:43:17 'able to play mp3s' == 'workin alsa' Aug 08 01:43:27 koen: There was a problem as I understand it. rmk can sometimes exagerate things though ;-) Aug 08 01:44:02 yeah, something with dma Aug 08 02:05:45 hmmm Aug 08 02:07:51 quite so Aug 08 02:08:33 * Twiun pokes nickserv Aug 08 02:13:32 pb_: I'm really happy with that sangoma card btw - the drivers are sweet. for PPPoA they do all the work themselves, pppd no longer required :) Aug 08 02:14:36 Twiun: excellent Aug 08 02:15:16 oh and firehol makes configuring iptables much, much easier Aug 08 02:15:23 almost like pf on bsd **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 08 03:47:49 2005 Aug 08 04:18:27 ~lart me Aug 08 04:18:28 * ibot pushes the wall down onto xora whilst whistling innocently Aug 08 04:26:31 afternoon Aug 08 06:38:52 RP: testing 2.6.13-blah is going to be hard for me as it recognises my SanDisk Connect+ as a memory card and not hostap :-) Aug 08 06:39:24 XorA: Patch hostap to recognise your card... Aug 08 06:39:34 BigAl: ping Aug 08 06:39:40 RP: I will do, but I doubt I have time until after weekend :-( Aug 08 06:40:09 XorA: If you give me the ident strings and numbers, I might find a moment to do it... Aug 08 06:40:36 RP: you should be able to copy from ide_cs Aug 08 06:41:03 There were some recent bugs fixed for multi function cards, hopefully they're in our latest kernel version... Aug 08 06:43:49 RP: last line in the table in ide-cs is the one Aug 08 06:46:09 XorA: Ok, looks like our external hostap doesn't have an ID table yet - I'll patch it later Aug 08 06:47:45 RP: I just noticed, when hrw did 0.3.9 hostap modules he forgot the add_event patch Aug 08 06:48:54 That would stop it working... Aug 08 06:49:59 Ill try and play tonight if I get allowed to, I really should do some "work" (tm) at work Aug 08 06:50:57 Yes, I'm facing that problem atm too ;-) Aug 08 06:54:12 RP: patch applies and modules build, should I check it in? Aug 08 06:57:16 XorA: are you saying your Connect+ has both wifi and mem working now? Aug 08 06:58:12 Loial: no Aug 08 06:59:55 XorA: k :) Aug 08 07:14:05 RP: The ConnectPlus is in the kernels own hostap Aug 08 07:14:15 RP: maybe we should switch to the internal hostap Aug 08 07:16:05 XorA: That would tie us with -mm until it hits mainline Aug 08 07:16:24 Not that I'm against that but it needs consideration Aug 08 07:17:05 Using the kernel's modules is probably a wise move eventually. Its also work noting you can get nasty conflicts between the internal and external kernel modules at install/runtime Aug 08 07:44:33 ah crap, looks like my 256MB SD died on me :\ Aug 08 07:51:19 dang it, I forgot to start a monotone pull before I left home Aug 08 08:03:30 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r2af94f47... 10/packages/altboot/files/ (altboot-menu/Advanced/80-copyrootfs init.altboot): altboot: Add 'Copy rootfs to SD/CF' menuitem. *NEEDS DEBUGGING*. Deactivated for now. Aug 08 08:03:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r626a7a77... 10/packages/glibmm/glibmm_2.6.1.bb: Update glibmm to 2.6.1 Aug 08 08:12:58 hi Aug 08 08:13:21 hey Bernardo Aug 08 08:17:56 hey mickeyl, shouldn't you be offline working on your thesis ;)? Aug 08 08:18:16 no. work time is over for today Aug 08 08:18:17 :D Aug 08 08:18:23 hi mickeyl :) Aug 08 08:18:51 evening, btw. Aug 08 08:19:26 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1bb6e852... 10/packages/curl/ (curl-native_7.14.0.bb curl_7.14.0.bb): Aug 08 08:19:26 - add curl-native Aug 08 08:19:26 - explicitly disable libidn support Aug 08 08:19:30 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2719afbd... 10/classes/binconfig.bbclass: Aug 08 08:19:30 binconfig.bbclass: install foo-config as foo-config-native for native packages, Aug 08 08:19:30 this way the config packages don't step over each other's toes Aug 08 08:19:34 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf9d3b94a... 10/ (46 files in 12 dirs): (log message trimmed) Aug 08 08:19:34 MASSIVE EFL (Enlightenment Foundation Libraries) Update: Aug 08 08:19:34 - edb Aug 08 08:19:34 - eet Aug 08 08:19:36 - embryo Aug 08 08:19:38 - ecore Aug 08 08:19:40 - evas Aug 08 08:19:44 ~hail mickeyl Aug 08 08:19:45 * ibot bows down to mickeyl and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 08 08:20:22 ~lart c++ and ABI compatibility Aug 08 08:20:23 * ibot beats c++ and ABI compatibility severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken Aug 08 08:20:46 ~lart glibmm, gtkmm and everything else in the way of an updated minisip Aug 08 08:20:46 * ibot shoves a crumpet down glibmm, gtkmm and everything else in the way of an updated minisip's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? Aug 08 08:21:56 hi, i just had to manually run ranlib on to files in the pppd package, is this ok? Aug 08 08:22:13 two files! Aug 08 08:28:42 hi Aug 08 08:28:54 hey zecke_ Aug 08 08:29:00 hail zecke Aug 08 08:29:02 hi zecke Aug 08 08:30:19 hail Römö Aug 08 08:38:20 * zecke_ was swimming in the North Sea... Aug 08 08:38:40 then you woke up? Aug 08 08:40:42 TheMaskedUnit_: No I got wet feet Aug 08 09:08:23 morning Aug 08 09:12:51 'morning chouimat Aug 08 09:27:51 i'm trying to do a bitbake opie-image on amd_64 and have run into this little grmlin, Aug 08 09:27:52 | glib-ectomy.c: In function `g_io_channel_read': Aug 08 09:27:52 | glib-ectomy.c:22: error: `LONG_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) Aug 08 09:31:28 whilst building bluez-utils-nodbus-2.18-r4 Aug 08 09:32:52 checked on the glib mailing list? Aug 08 09:33:34 heh, you would probably get short shrift from the glib list. Aug 08 09:33:53 glib-ectomy.c's purpose is to avoid the use of glib Aug 08 09:34:47 could check with the bluez list, though. Aug 08 09:35:28 * CosmicPenguin thorws things at the gcc-cross-sdk Aug 08 09:35:48 I am far too stupid to be doing things like this Aug 08 09:36:04 ~seen raster Aug 08 09:36:05 raster <~raster@YahooBB219198104088.bbtec.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 10h 21m 24s ago, saying: 'but then u have to handle encoding/decoding that'. Aug 08 09:36:09 emte: ping Aug 08 09:38:20 pb_: gcc-cross-sdk is currently compilable ? Aug 08 09:38:28 ~hail mickEyl Aug 08 09:38:28 * ibot bows down to mickEyl and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 08 09:39:58 :)) Aug 08 09:41:20 mickeyl: I think JustinP has entrance and e17 .bbs Aug 08 09:41:36 i'm doing some more deps for entrance atm. Aug 08 09:41:36 e17 will need some extra granularity Aug 08 09:41:44 yep Aug 08 09:42:32 according to my estimates the e17 layout will fit on a qvga screen Aug 08 09:43:13 * koen wonders about running and E session with matchbox-wm Aug 08 09:43:16 aquadran: as far as I know Aug 08 09:46:41 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9b9511ac... 10/packages/ (9 files in 5 dirs): Aug 08 09:46:41 EFL Update, Part II: Aug 08 09:46:41 - epeg Aug 08 09:46:41 - epsilon Aug 08 09:46:41 - esmart Aug 08 09:50:15 france_: welcome ldap user Aug 08 09:50:33 zecke_: hello Aug 08 09:50:36 pb_: last times, i tried build but fails at compile compoler. i'm trying now. i guess that package is enough to compiler kernel ? Aug 08 09:51:23 I am moving servers about today. I doubt that anybody will notice, but just in case the wrong cable gets moved, I thought I would warn you. Let me know if there are any issues. Aug 08 09:52:31 thasks Aug 08 09:52:34 thanks, too Aug 08 09:54:09 france_: may I ask where you move them? Aug 08 09:58:12 pb_: still fails. it reports about conflict types in gcc-cross-sdk-3.3.4-r2/gcc-3.3.4/gcc/f/com.c. Aug 08 09:58:57 pb_: ok, not important. i'll still use toolchain 3.4.1 from hh.org Aug 08 09:59:05 mickeyl: :-) Aug 08 10:00:22 zecke_: we want to announce everything at once, as some change this week, more change next week, followed by change the week after makes folks edgy. It is better to do it all at once. Aug 08 10:00:29 pb_: now i noticed, it's 3.3.4 version Aug 08 10:01:21 zecke_: I am veiwing it as a great opportunity to clean up the severs, fix the admin system, cleanup the web site, etc.... Aug 08 10:03:30 who was the other chap woth amd64 on here? weas it justinP ? Aug 08 10:24:47 koen, you are remembering that e17 requires 3 mouse buttons right? Aug 08 10:25:33 that's a bit surprising given rasters commitment to PDAs Aug 08 10:25:36 mickeyl, whtacha need? Aug 08 10:25:44 not really Aug 08 10:25:50 just wanted to ask if you know what's the plan for esmart Aug 08 10:25:57 esmart needs x11 atm. Aug 08 10:26:05 which prevents me to compile it against the fb only Aug 08 10:26:31 hmm Aug 08 10:26:59 esmart is pretty much an evas extension ... Aug 08 10:27:17 to make the code handling easier Aug 08 10:27:51 but specifically ... raster's plans are hard to follow Aug 08 10:28:02 Raster plans things? Aug 08 10:28:12 heh Aug 08 10:28:14 if you want to call it that, yes Aug 08 10:28:27 he plans to make changes, then he does them Aug 08 10:28:34 actually Aug 08 10:28:55 it's not that important. evas and ecore are most important for me as fb-only, the rest is ok to go with x11 Aug 08 10:29:06 http://www.rasterman.com/files/efl.png Aug 08 10:29:16 is/are rasters e17 plans Aug 08 10:29:29 if you can follow it Aug 08 10:30:33 i have no idea what set JustinP is doing, the only snapshot set i did was for all three Aug 08 10:30:45 fb, x11, and fb+x11 Aug 08 10:31:48 at some point unless he has a zaurus(which i belive he does) he is going to have to write a touchscreen device handler or keybind buttons to emulate the other two mouse buttons Aug 08 10:32:15 He has a C3000. Aug 08 10:32:39 i am only at the point with biohazard writting the client-server stuff Aug 08 10:33:07 i want to make sure the foundations are done before i do any more gui stuff Aug 08 10:34:49 anyway one day a proper e17 embedded wm should exist Aug 08 10:35:22 yeah Aug 08 10:37:10 can we call carl worth vectorman and send raster and him on a coding spree? Aug 08 10:38:17 I guess carl is rather busy fixing up cairo for gnome 2.12 these days Aug 08 10:39:21 raster did eem as a demo and has halted evoak, which is pretty much what i am rewritting Aug 08 10:39:40 man you guys where busy. 450 revs in Aug 08 10:39:47 evoak is the screen grab thinge? Aug 08 10:40:10 evoak is a client-server canvas Aug 08 10:40:21 a, that one Aug 08 10:40:27 he made a movie of that for us Aug 08 10:40:40 yes they are all on rasterman.com Aug 08 10:41:03 emte: ok, you are the resident E guru here. Let me ask you: where is the real difference between an Evas and an Ecore_Evas and why the heck do we need to have one set of functions for either of it. Aug 08 10:41:21 evas is ONLY the canvas Aug 08 10:41:54 ecore_evas are a collection of functions to help make it easier for people to build things without worring about ecore Aug 08 10:42:16 i know ecore is more, the question is why is there a distinct type Ecore_Evas instead of Evas and why are there distinct ecore_evas_foo_bar which do the same as evas_foo_bar but take an Ecore_Evas instead of an Evas. Aug 08 10:42:42 the foo-bar stuff i belive is just example code Aug 08 10:43:20 but ecore_evas is just to make the lives of non-programmers a bit easier Aug 08 10:43:35 heh Aug 08 10:43:36 and the edje + esmart stuff even more so Aug 08 10:44:01 since they allow you to use more of a metafile to define what is what Aug 08 10:44:13 API confusion makes everyone's lives so much easier Aug 08 10:44:14 and you have no limitations to size or shape Aug 08 10:44:20 mickeyl: does the evas performance test work yet? Aug 08 10:44:28 /work/is buildable/ Aug 08 10:45:12 Aug 08 10:45:40 lol Aug 08 10:45:44 heh Aug 08 10:45:55 well as far as i know cairo support isnt full yet Aug 08 10:46:06 raster tossed it in to show its possible Aug 08 10:46:12 cairo is an optional backend Aug 08 10:46:13 but its still too slow Aug 08 10:46:32 anyway shower time Aug 08 10:46:35 it's faster than anything I've seen Aug 08 10:46:45 but then again, I'm running Xglx Aug 08 10:46:49 koen: it should build Aug 08 10:47:01 ok Aug 08 10:47:03 koen: i'm currently doing some tests in rebuilding the stuff from scratch so that I spot missing deps Aug 08 10:47:05 * koen wants to try it Aug 08 10:47:11 ok Aug 08 10:47:22 I'm wrestling with updating minisip Aug 08 10:47:34 and it's C++ glib goo Aug 08 10:54:29 well koen you have to remember raster thought that evas being able to only open 385 images a second was too slow ... Aug 08 10:55:26 I reminds me of the 'one day I got bored and opened 800 images in the gimp' screenshot Aug 08 10:55:35 you only need 35 frames per second to do animations ... Aug 08 10:55:54 lol Aug 08 10:56:21 locate .jpg | xargs gimp Aug 08 10:56:29 aquadran: ok you want the asus be added to oe? Aug 08 10:56:30 and watch your computer grind Aug 08 10:57:02 lol Aug 08 10:57:36 or locate .tiff | xargs gimp if you have a few gigs of satelite data Aug 08 10:57:53 zecke_: yes, so i don't need send to you patch twice :) Aug 08 11:05:24 aquadran: but there is no asus support in Opie itself? Aug 08 11:07:06 zecke_: add asus support (device) for opie is very easy. only that new definition series thing stop me Aug 08 11:10:27 zecke_: i could simply copy from ipaq, and modify needed changes for asus device Aug 08 11:11:50 aquadran: let me push your OE changes first... Aug 08 11:11:58 aquadran: I'm still at verifying revs Aug 08 11:15:08 zecke_: could i simply add new asus serie id on two bits ? Aug 08 11:16:40 aquadran: we could slim the iPAQ and other numbers to make place for new devices Aug 08 11:17:37 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6c9825d3... 10/packages/evas/ (evas-x11_0.9.9.013.bb evas_0.9.9.013.inc): Ship all available evas-tests Aug 08 11:29:44 good evening ;) Aug 08 11:30:37 EVAS BENCH: 0.194 <- X on h5550 Aug 08 11:30:52 EVAS BENCH: 0.308 <- X on hx4700 Aug 08 11:31:46 EVAS BENCH: 0.391 <- FB on hx4700 Aug 08 11:32:56 zecke_: yes Aug 08 11:33:11 mhhh ... :) ... i tought long time why not gpe on gdk-fb :) Aug 08 11:33:38 maybe because gtk-fb is unmaintained? Aug 08 11:34:01 yes i know ;) ... i mean ... re-mantain :) Aug 08 11:38:54 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5bdc70a3... 10/packages/glibmm/glibmm_2.6.1.bb: Lower default pref for glibmm 2.6.1 as it doesn't play nice with other Aug 08 11:50:31 gremlin[it]: use GDK-DirectFB Aug 08 11:50:36 gremlin[it]: it even has Cairo support Aug 08 11:51:47 zecke mhh sometimes i looke for directFB but seem to me they continue so to use old gtk sources ... or i'm wrong ? Aug 08 11:52:27 gremlin[it]: they've an up-to-date gdk backend in their cvs Aug 08 11:52:52 gremlin[it]: i guess both are two stoned to do regular releases... Aug 08 11:53:04 too even... Aug 08 11:54:16 zecke ahhh ok ... yes problably i lookd only on web site not cvs :) Aug 08 12:03:17 gremlin[it]: Both andieh and dok live in Berlin as well and AFAIK they both are pott dudes dude ;) Aug 08 12:03:49 zecke ?!?! Aug 08 12:04:13 gremlin[it]: DirectFB authors Aug 08 12:04:24 ahhhh :) :) :) Aug 08 12:04:48 explains a lot Aug 08 12:05:37 hemmm ... i also have a looong time work to do ... but really i writing about a line of code for day ... as average :) Aug 08 12:13:19 i just got a call from that job i interviewed with a week ago, going in to see them tomororw morning again :) Aug 08 12:13:23 woot. Aug 08 12:13:33 fine :) ... Aug 08 12:13:43 kergoth: fine Aug 08 12:23:57 that sounds promising Aug 08 12:41:58 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r81627419... 10/packages/esmart/esmart_0.9.0.004.bb: esmart: depend on virtual/imlib2 Aug 08 12:52:58 sigh - I'm just running around in circles here Aug 08 13:09:24 rmk: "Are you going to send this patch to the patch system?" - do you think I'm getting to him? :) Aug 08 13:10:48 heh Aug 08 13:14:26 which patch is he getting at? Aug 08 13:15:16 One of the ones I sent to akpm. Its marginal who it should be sent to... Aug 08 13:15:58 (It adds the corgi keyboard and touchscreen drivers to corgi.c) Aug 08 13:19:58 hey mithro Aug 08 13:27:00 I can't seem to get the cross compiler to call the right assembler Aug 08 13:27:29 you'll need a crazy toolchain monkey Aug 08 13:32:34 morning Aug 08 13:33:16 CosmicPenguin: I don't know how people can stand living in jackson Aug 08 13:33:39 Why do you think I don't live there? Aug 08 13:33:44 hehe Aug 08 13:33:48 treke|home: a little feedback, the QAContact thingie seems to have worked Aug 08 13:33:57 I was only there 3 days and I won't mind it if I never see that city again Aug 08 13:34:01 zecke, cool Aug 08 13:34:19 treke|home: just my tinderbox-oe@gmx.net didn't like to get mail bombed in the early days Aug 08 13:36:44 treke|home: yes, Jackson is much less fun then it might sound Aug 08 13:38:38 hehe Aug 08 13:38:54 actually all three cities we stayed in rather sucked Aug 08 13:39:10 jackson was at least visually pleasing Aug 08 13:39:28 its hard to be interesting when you process 3 million tourists a year Aug 08 13:40:01 west yellowstone was a dump. Salt Lake City was all the crap from home and all the crap from jackson combined Aug 08 13:40:34 Living in Salt Lake is an artform Aug 08 13:40:51 hehe Aug 08 13:41:33 aww Seattle had to have somewhere to send thier homeless ... SaltLake did it to send them all back to Seattle :P Aug 08 13:42:21 I thought it was funny that the bars closed at 8pm. If I was living there, I'd sure want to drink more. Aug 08 13:42:32 think that was wyoming though Aug 08 13:42:41 good night Aug 08 13:43:10 If the bars closed at 8:00 PM, then you must have been some place funky - last call for Jackson is 1:30, 12:30 in SLC Aug 08 13:43:20 maybe it was montana Aug 08 13:43:23 I lost track Aug 08 13:43:50 We'll blame it on Montana - that sounds about right Aug 08 13:53:18 Montana .. you just walk inot a feild and keep getting drunk Aug 08 13:53:22 into* Aug 08 14:01:52 lo Aug 08 14:01:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rffa94e05... 10/conf/machine/ipaq-pxa-2.6.conf: remove ipaq-pxa-2.6, use h3900 instead Aug 08 14:06:23 RP: is it possible to get modprobe on Z to tell you what symbol is missinf from a module? Aug 08 14:06:38 it should report it to syslog Aug 08 14:06:44 XorA|gone: I'd have though it would tell you Aug 08 14:06:48 (took me a while to figure that out) Aug 08 14:06:54 dmesg Aug 08 14:08:03 koen: ah cheers, modprobe just prints file not found :-) Aug 08 14:11:44 RP: seems in kernel hostap is b0rked :-( Aug 08 14:12:54 XorA|gone: Check you're using the right module. If you have internal compiled and external compiled versions both installed it can get very confused Aug 08 14:13:13 Especially when it uses some of one and some of the other... Aug 08 14:13:45 RP: only correct module installed Aug 08 14:14:15 Unknown Symbol ieee80211_get_crypto_ops Aug 08 14:14:16 XorA|gone: What's borked about it? Aug 08 14:15:00 It could be that's in a git tree akpm didn't pull in, or mayb we didn't compile it... Aug 08 14:16:22 RP: Ive run defconfig through make menuconfig to get the correct defines, I can see the file thats supposed to be in, but I dont see any option to make it compile Aug 08 14:16:36 Which file is it? Aug 08 14:18:05 RP: net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.c Aug 08 14:18:53 CONFIG_IEEE80211 is needed Aug 08 14:19:03 which depends on NET_RADIO Aug 08 14:19:45 how can I reliably get the host and target arches in a bb file (both native and cross)? Aug 08 14:20:37 RP: ah cheers, Ill try again Aug 08 14:21:04 that is normally a job for the machine, distro, and local.conf Aug 08 14:21:31 btw the e17 stuff does not need any native metafiles Aug 08 14:21:38 that stuff is long gone Aug 08 14:21:45 emte: I beg to differ Aug 08 14:21:55 edje_cc and embry_cc need to be native, don't they? Aug 08 14:22:03 no Aug 08 14:22:08 you'r sure? Aug 08 14:22:20 * JustinP tried building without them Aug 08 14:22:36 embryo is the complier for the embryo language that edje uses Aug 08 14:22:44 yes.... Aug 08 14:23:15 but you're failing to realize that the builds for later things (e, entrance, etc) need to run edje_cc on their datafiles (I think) Aug 08 14:23:33 they have interlinks, yes Aug 08 14:23:56 emte: so explain to me how I don't need native compiles of edje (and its deps) Aug 08 14:24:04 actually everyting interlinks Aug 08 14:24:47 to get my build working I had to compile everything native up to edje Aug 08 14:24:55 then do the cross compiles Aug 08 14:25:01 because you do not need to compile an intermediary version to compile the target, all you should need to do is add a do_stage to the bb Aug 08 14:25:18 I also had to move the native / cross libs out of the way to get some of the to compile (ecore is one big problem) Aug 08 14:25:49 you know what....fine, I'm not going to hack on this any more Aug 08 14:26:05 i cant say we have had a problem with ecore since before the iconv/gettext issue Aug 08 14:26:18 I'm just wasting my time trying to get these things to work and it seems everyone else not only has their own way to do it but others are changing things anyway Aug 08 14:26:22 i wonder what has changed Aug 08 14:26:34 cross/native compile problems Aug 08 14:26:39 it's linking against the wrong directory Aug 08 14:26:50 so are lots of other e libs and such Aug 08 14:27:20 yes, you have to clear out all the ones currently in the OE repo Aug 08 14:27:28 they will cause conflicts Aug 08 14:27:49 hmm Aug 08 14:27:51 emte: the ones mickeyl added today? Aug 08 14:28:19 koen, no JustinP is working with the new-cvs e17 stuff Aug 08 14:28:54 using floating cvs stuff is bad practice Aug 08 14:29:08 it's a last resort Aug 08 14:29:45 yeah we know but its ... hard to "snapshot" and still have it usable Aug 08 14:30:11 i gave JustinP some prelim snapshots i had ... Aug 08 14:30:33 i am not sure where i lost my working set Aug 08 14:30:44 (for bitbake) Aug 08 14:31:09 hmm Aug 08 14:31:21 i'll reinstall BB/OE tonight Aug 08 14:31:35 JustinP, can you email me the set your working with? Aug 08 14:31:52 emte@labotomy.net Aug 08 14:32:11 emte: but they shouldn't. the cross-libs should *not* be trying to link against native libs and the native compiles should *not* be trying to link against cross libs Aug 08 14:32:19 emte: I'm going to put them in bugzilla Aug 08 14:32:30 whoe's bugzilla? Aug 08 14:32:40 emte: topic 2nd item Aug 08 14:34:14 your including the metafiles in the bugreport? Aug 08 14:34:53 that's the plan Aug 08 14:35:02 and it ensures they don't get lost Aug 08 14:35:23 MickeyL did you get my mail ? Aug 08 14:35:57 hey gerwinin Aug 08 14:37:38 Hey Koen ! Aug 08 14:38:11 did you get my mail about attending the OE devconf? Aug 08 14:38:29 I will be in Nürnberg from the 21st to the 24th Aug 08 14:38:45 tssss Aug 08 14:39:01 eindhoven has more mono ;) Aug 08 14:39:26 Koen Yes Aug 08 14:39:27 koen: did you propose that dates? Aug 08 14:40:00 zecke_: it was my preference Aug 08 14:40:10 I'll be away the week before Aug 08 14:40:46 Zecke : the idea is to do this on a regular basis Aug 08 14:41:55 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221 Aug 08 14:42:18 koen: Did I propose the third or fourth week? Aug 08 14:42:18 good luck Aug 08 14:42:25 got it Aug 08 14:42:33 thnks JustinP Aug 08 14:42:39 yeah Aug 08 14:42:40 zecke_: I think you did both Aug 08 14:43:00 now i have to figure out how to convince monotone to be nice to me Aug 08 14:43:01 emte: good luck Aug 08 14:43:03 damn I hate VServer, I wanted to do that as diploma thesis (in about one or two years...) Aug 08 14:43:07 for both Aug 08 14:43:15 lol Aug 08 14:43:24 hey gerwinin Aug 08 14:43:29 it will be easier than the code i am trying to write Aug 08 14:43:39 hey Mickeyl Aug 08 14:43:53 mickeyl: will the bill that got passed which changes daylight savings time in the usa affect things? Aug 08 14:43:59